Dyson DC58 with Milwaukee M18 Modification

[@m.m.m.c.a.k.e]

LOL. Nice work my guy🙌 Hear me out… eliminate OEM circuity for the most part- use ur own circuit to send power from bat to the fan with a momentary switch 🤷‍♂️fancy- variable speed trigger prob more work than it’s worth don’t need lights unless you want to mount up a laser diode on the brush to visualize dust….. or an LED on the head so it’s got a work like, just like drills, etc… battery charged separately… As for the o.g. battery, could prolly reset the counter… realistically you may as well just doer just like you did! Bravo, Bravo 👏

[@iNeedDrums]

Very true. As long as you use an external charger or charging management board specific to the battery you don't need the OEM board. It took a bunch of shady people at Dyson and a good staff of lawyers to make this patent very profitable. Dyson makes big bucks on this confusing, useless feature.

[@jdmccorful]

Interesting hack, quite workable. Agree with your concerns of durability. But it can be done.Thanks for the look!

[@iNeedDrums]

There's a way to activate the battery board with a magnet. There is a hall type switch (the metal cylinder looking component, not sure what it is) If you put a magnet by that and hold the trigger switch until it resets, then there is a sequence of releasing the magnet and switch that will save the activation. You can find the sequence for each model if you search. I found most of the OEM battery cells to be fine.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Interesting! I had cell issues and did not look into it far due to that and use it since then with my M18! Win! I have seen that some reflash the microcontroller. I have not seen that about the hall sensor reset.

[@ronburns268]

Having already WASTED my good money on a knock off with a "5 year" warranty on ebay!!, this is something I had been looking into. I have Dewalt instead of Mil but the process will likely be the same. Good video! For the record; their 5 year warranty is useless as you have not way to contact them, as they keep changing their name and NEVER reply to a request to return the unit. In mho if you want a good battery that is a bolt on ... suck it up and buy the oe, as the knockoffs are garbage.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I have had great luck with my Amazon purchase of the DC35 pack that was a knock off about 1 year ago. I do see many sellers with these now and I am sure some of them will be of poor quality unfortunately. Sorry to hear of your bad experience with the cheaper pack. Best of luck to ya!

[@yeshecan7]

Very helpful ,excellent video with very good explanation. I appreciate.

[@casapoolpiscinespasaune2016]

Hi I’m doing the same for my V7 with a Hilti 22V battery

[@drewpeacock6234]

Great job on the conversion.

[@E85_STI]

Cool I didn’t know you live in Ga. I used to live in Savannah for a few years.I’ve been to Augusta as well.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Yes, we have been around here all our life. We also visited Savannah 2 months ago for our 25th Anniversary. We were heading to the NC mountains (had planned that all year or even before Covid actually) and that whole week nothing but storms in the forecast every day. The weather was bad from Helen, GA to Pigeon Forge, TN. At the last minute we changed plans and well we are not really beach people anymore so 180⁰ to Savannah, lol.... It was nice there we love river street, walking down the river side and the trolley tour was worth it!

[@E85_STI]

@@ThriftyToolShed yes savannah gets super packed for St patty’s day but while I was there for those years we would have to evacuate for the hurricanes in 2016 and 2017 we would drive from Hunter AAF to Augusta.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

@@E85_STI it's unbelievable how big the St. Patty's Day celebration is in Savannah!

[@PowerlabsDiesel]

Bad ass ! I’m going to fix mine the same way !

[@ALAPINO]

It's okay, I wasn't invited to the Master's either. Good sir, I'm really enjoying going through your back-catalog of videos. What liquid flux are you using? Seems really convenient to have that fine-tip bottle at hand. Cheers!

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Thanks for your comment! This is the type I used: amzn.to/3Bn2Vd8

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I apologize sir. I was responding too quickly to this. You asked about the liquid flux and I sent you the low temp solder paste link by mistake. I will get the link for the RA rosin flux in a few minutes.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Here is a link to MG chemicals RA Rosin Flux, sorry for incorrect link, btw, the low temp paste is great. Lol... amzn.to/2VNmNFL

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I ordered the bottle separately from Amazon. Something similar to these. amzn.to/36MNUTy

[@ALAPINO]

@@ThriftyToolShed Haha! I need to restock on both anyway. So it All worked out!

[@eliodeluca882]

Hello. Thank you for this video. I have the same machine. It would not start so I cleaned it out and when I put the battery back in it started and kept on going. I could not turn it off. The trigger had no effect. I would appreciate any advice. Thank you. Regards Elio

[@ThriftyToolShed]

If it's like this one then it could be the plunger that the trigger moves to activate the switch on the battery, but other than that it is all in the battery. The trigger simply presses the switch that is built into the pack and that switch activates a mosfet on the BMS board to supply power. Most likely internal to the pack if it's not something jammed up with the trigger or plunger.

[@qingcaish]

this is a good idea

[@ruinunes8251]

Well done. Another machine saved from landfill. And you still have 6 cells to play with for other projects. One question, do these M18 batteries have over discharge protection in them ?

[@LilasTools]

I have the same question!

[@ThriftyToolShed]

No the M18 does not. The DC58 will actually shutdown if the voltage level is below 16.5V or so it seems so I did not add a low cut out protection. If you wanted you could add the 20A cut out board like I showed in a previous video, but it will take up some room though. I am going to run mine without since the DC58 does shutdown, that's why I mentioned that the larger 4 or 5 ah packs ran it better, they did not pull down in voltage as quick while in max output. Thanks for your comment!

[@ruinunes8251]

@@ThriftyToolShed Thanks for clarifying that one. With some DIY and supermarkets selling affordable 18-20V batteries, I assume that would be the way forward rather than forking out big bucks for a genuine replacement battery.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

@@ruinunes8251 Yes, that or the cheaper replacements from eBay or Amazon!

[@ruinunes8251]

@@ThriftyToolShed To be honest, I would use a power tool battery rather than buying a knock off from eBay. Pretty much everyone has a power tool of some sort at home so they have a battery or two laying around. Also I read a case where one of those knock offs set itself on fire just a day after it was fitted on the hoover. It could be just one off case of fire but god knows. I would prefer to use a power tool battery because I have a few around. Thanks for making this video. Surely it will help other people.

[@josh4014]

Wish I coud find a link for that 30A/30v switch. Cant find anything anywhere! Love the guide though. subscribed.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I could not believe how hard it is to find those. I was going to buy some more as I have none left similar at the moment. As I mentioned that one I got from a EGO 650cfm blower and jacks small engine does sale ego parts but that switch only comes with the complete electric assembly for around $125! I have found a few here and there similar like this one is only 12A www.ebay.com/itm/New-Jiaben-20051926-Power-Micro-Switch-250V-12A-36Vd-c-T85-5E4-DA7-6-4-1-/274757640611?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 and I found some with out the lever. www.ebay.com/itm/JIABEN-MSG-1230-Micro-Limit-Switch-30A-84V-dc-25T85-5E4-3-Pins-No-Lever-174022-/264539357599?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

[@josh4014]

@@ThriftyToolShed awesome, that second one should do the trick mounted in the right spot. Thanks!

[@petero6191]

Im impressed.cheers good fix.

[@jomendez6929]

brillent x

[@Twister8700]

What is the type of switch that you used called? I'm trying to do this with a Dewalt 20v battery. I'm going to mount it a little different that the way you did it. I'm going to make the battery mount fit inside the Dyson battery housing. Thanks for the idea's

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Typically called a micro switch. It is harder than I thought to find one rated for 60V and 30A. Next time I will have to go the Mosfet route! Keep me updated and if you do a video, I would like to see it!

[@Beeeazybones]

So I did a very similar Milwaukee mod on my dyson V6 animal, and it DRAINS the 2.0 M18 batteries. Is it supposed to kill batteries that quickly?

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Yes, I thought I mentioned on video that it will drain quickly due to lesser voltage than original Dyson 24V pack. I meant to mention the fact that the 24V Kobalt or the Newer 24V Flex tool packs for example would be even better suited for this application. I mentioned that since I had many large Milwaukee packs I chose to use these anyway. I also tried my best to share that the large 5ah and the 6ah packs run this much longer since the Dyson will shut down at about 16.5V or so on the pack. The smaller 2ah or 2.5 ah probably won't run this on the Max or high output mode much at all. The 5ah and above can indeed. Mine works great around the shop/garage even with the smaller pack with some small clean up jobs. For larger jobs the 5ah or above is a must for me. As stated the 24V packs would be excellent if you already had that platform. I personally don't plan on changing from the M18 platform for my day to day tools any time soon. Hope it helps!

[@mkay1807]

does the Dyson have lowvolatge cut off builtin the motor? if not this will drain the battery to level below recommended and battery will be dead.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I mentioned that in video! Thanks

[@mkay1807]

@@ThriftyToolShed must've missed it, Im doing something similar with my secondhand vac. I am planning to actually put a trigger with MOSFETs. might be an idea for yours.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I did mention that a Mosfet maybe better. It's harder than I thought to find a switch in that size with high current rating. I did happen to already have one. The original pack used a Mosfet and a low current switch on the gate of it as well.

[@eskoasko]

Dyson stops working when battery reaches low as 15,4voltage. I added low voltage protection board for extra, just to be sure. You can see my vision of dyson to makita conversion at my channel.

[@mkay1807]

@@eskoasko hi, thank for your input. looked at your video, seems great. Can I ask if your low voltage circuit is MOSFET driven or relay? I am waiting on my MOSFET trigger to do the same thing. I won't worry about low voltage now.

[@manningcustom]

you need a 3d printer

[@ThriftyToolShed]

I do?

[@manningcustom]

@@ThriftyToolShed I have a tevo tornado that I bought off someone on facebook. It is in pieces but everything is there. I'm just to busy to put it back together and I really don't need another printer. You can have it if you cover shipping. I bet I can send it for about $45 usps.

[@ThriftyToolShed]

If you don't want it, I will try it out. If shipping and handling is less than $50 to Augusta, Georgia 30907...

[@johngardiner8847]

How did you get the motor out of the unit? I e watched many. Ideas about this unit but you’re the first to successfully remove that

[@ThriftyToolShed]

Hi, I showed that in the first video. I found the side clips of the housing as seen at about (10min 30s)in that video below. Once end cap off the motor assembly simply pulled out with a rubber surround boot. It was surprisingly easy, I think you can even tell I was surprised how easy it was in the video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIW2n5qoqtx3nas