DZOFILM Vespid Primes Review: SUPRISINGLY GOOD Full Frame Cine Lenses!

[@joenicklo]

When you hit the like button on a Gerald Undone video before even watching...you know you have a problem. But for real, great review Gerald. DZO seems to be making their mark in the budget friendly cinema lens space.

[@lprzytula]

You live dangerously. I like it 👍

[@yesthisisdonut]

i'm gerald undone and i suffer from purple fringing.

[@timwithers2866]

That’s a mighty good one!

[@makatron]

You win this comment section

[@yesthisisdonut]

thanks lads, it would be a first

[@adityarao2974]

You have taught me that 8 bit footage isn't the end of the world and I am thankful for that!!!

[@raksh9]

Get it right in camera and 8bit footage is more than fine!

[@adityarao2974]

@@raksh9 I'm still trying to find a good lut for sony slog man... The colors are a bit difficult for me to correct. Any ideas ?

[@RadishinTrouble]

@@adityarao2974 1000% recommendation for Leeming Lut Pro. Makes for a super fast and easy workflow, perfect colors and top notch customer service and help.

[@adityarao2974]

Man I've been using them for a while but it sometimes get super difficult to expose for it. Like to the point of almost clipping gets super hard in low light conditions

[@adityarao2974]

Or situations where I know I'll clip and exposing the subject becomes bleh

[@CosmosSafari]

Just watched one of your first videos you made and wow... So much progress on 4 years. It's inspirational for me to see that progress in you and how far you've gotten. For my channel about at just about a year into KZbin it seems like I'm learning so much every time I make a video. Your channel has accelerated my learning curve tremendously and I appreciate all of the hard work you do to bring balanced reviews to us as viewers. Thanks Gerald.

[@geraldundone]

🤓💜🙏

[@CosmosSafari]

@@geraldundone I am currently using a Sony a6000 for my videos with the kit lens but I'm looking at the Sony a7Siii but I am seeing the leaks of the FX3 and now I don't know what the hell to do. I'm hoping that the FX3 shoots raw and otherwise maintains a reasonable price. So disappointed in Canon right now because I like their glass and would prefer to stay in the Canon ecosystem, but really would like to have dual card slots recording video and the file sizes are tremendous. I'm also not a fan of my camera overheating. I would like it to remain reliable at all times, because the likelihood of it overheating at the worst possible moment is pretty high. I really don't feel like spending the money on a ton of CF Express cards, and after watching your videos on the Sony's realizing that they can shoot without the expensive cards and get most of the benefits is huge. I really wish that Sony would have the ability to control more from their touch screen like the Canon's do. but right now I'm focusing on lighting, and just got 2 of the new aperture 100x with a light dome II and the MC 4 light travel kit, which has been the biggest difference in my video quality thus far.

[@AlexDon]

Just got my Full Vespid set a few week ago and I'm loving them a lot! They have a really beautiful focus roll off which makes your images look very cinematic and also makes skin very pleasing to film since the sharpness is not that high. High sharpness is not always the best, especially when you want cinematic images.

[@nicktherogue7306]

I agree with your aesthetic observation, but it's worth noting that you can do a lot of things to soften an image on set or in post if you want that look for a particular scene or shot, but you cannot make an image which is softer than you like sharper in a pleasing way. These lenses look awesome though. Definitely considering picking up a set so thank you for your recommendation. :)

[@Frontigenics]

@@nicktherogue7306 exactly. I, personally do allot of VFX... so yes, I need the sharpness to start out for keying. I can always soften later.

[@wayner2560]

Nick, why waste time in post. I feel a lot of new filmmakers rely on the cliche modern saying, “let’s fix it in post!” Time is money. Get it right the first time. I say screw the post production fix, it’s a bad habit to get in. Just my opinion. Everyone has their way of doing things.

[@Frontigenics]

@@wayner2560 well, because if you're doing vfx or compositing... you want the raw sharpness. A blur node in Resolve is real-time. It adds zero time during grading.

[@chrisbennett1864]

@@Frontigenics Hey I use promist filters a lot, but I hate the blooming when I shoot into windows and sometimes I hesitate to use them. What's your go to softening in post? I'm not sure if you will even see this, but thanks in advance!

[@throwdown515]

Audio sounds fantastic with the new blankets!

[@michaelangelo1887]

It makes me so happy that you're seeing major success on your channel man. Keep up the good work! I know you do it cause you're passionate!

[@bananabear009]

Put it simple, all the weaknesses are not a problem when price is factored in. What a new discovery!

[@franklinmichael671]

5:45 so if you put a speed booster on them you could film in 4k and crop slightly to get more light/shallower depth of field?

[@ZacktheFilm]

I love how thorough these reviews are!

[@vladimirobreja8360]

Really enjoying every video from you🙏🏻!

[@animaxxx4429]

Gerald please please a video on color gamut and spaces for us beginners. I searched tons articles and videos and wasn't able to understand a single thing. What to grade in sRGB or P3. How to convert one into other. What minimum color gamut should montior have. ICC profiles and do they support Premier or Resolve. Please please this tutorial. 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️

[@franchocou]

DaVinci color space transform >/ free

[@ReverseComet]

"Hi, I'm Gerald Undone, and 240p is stored in the balls."

[@TommyCallaway]

That 90mm macro looks awesome. Great review Gerald!

[@RyanAudencial]

These will be perfect for my Z Cam E2!

[@miloplacas]

tankyou gerald, im choosing my rental desicion you give so much information, its great for us. Thank you for this!

[@jasonsunly]

“I’m Gerald Undone and I watch my own videos at 200% playback speed.”

[@MLee-vcrr]

Finally...Gerald you've "undone" it again! I've been waiting for a review on these lenses forever. I recently picked the Meike 50mm Cine FF T2.1, and decided to stick with that range on the Sigma fp (It shoots BRAW). Hopefully they will look/cut consistent with the Meike MFT 2.2 lenses on my BMP4Ks. Great content that is right to the point...love it.

[@thomasjmcclure]

was just about to look into these, thanks for the review! would love to see a comparison between these, slr magic apo hyperprime and xeen options. all roughly 1200 on ebay. any recomendations?

[@konstantinosstag6436]

This is something i did for me by watching and reading reviews and combining the info: Dzo primes + Quite sharp + No significant breathing + Consistent T stop and color + Full set to choose from - CA heavy in some cases - weird loss of contrast/glaring against light source - some barbell distortion - magenta/blueish color 16, 25, 35, 50, 75, 90, 100, 125 | T 2. 1 Meike lenses + no CA + good all rounders + no barrel distortion -they breathe - less sharp - no wide lens They have a yellow/cream color 25,35,50,85 | T 2.1 Irix Lenses +Fairly good with reasonable sharpness -Inconsistent iris -no 20sth lens - no contrast wide open - Focal lengths missing 11mm T4. 3, 15mm T 2.6, 30mm T1. 5, 45mm T1. 5, 150mm T 3.0 Slr magic apo microprimes +great all rounders, +not too sharp more like vintage zeiss, +small but good build quality +not huge focus throw and can be used without follow focus -the 25 is a bit less bright and has green cast -Wide open they have a certain diffusion effect like blooming - Some breathing 25, 35, 50, 85 | T 2. 1

[@thomasjmcclure]

@@konstantinosstag6436 very helpful thank you!

[@reanetsemoleleki8219]

I'd like to see more cine lens reviews from this channel. Especially from these new lesser known brands like Meike, Irix, Nitecore etc.

[@joeyramonelookalike]

This is the first video I see from your channel and I must say: that opening jingle is incredibly stupid but I love it!! Good job.

[@verebellus]

the disclosure before the video starts is the best part

[@MahdiTheMagician]

Great video! I have a Sony A6500 and a few Sony lens but nothing really high-end. I know cine lenses are more expensive and I don't think I'm anywhere ready for them. At what point would you recommend someone think about cine lenses? And by that I mean, what level of camera and experience would make it worth it. Thanks, I love your videos!

[@HSulfateuse]

I'm waiting for a compar with the futur Meikke FF Cine line, is the price difference worth

[@EthanBares]

How do these compare to the Irix primes?

[@motuscinema3979]

Gerald maybe only you can answer this question. I have an zcam e2 s6 and got the metabones x64 which is the wrong adapter and leaves vignetting on my full frame lenses. but if vista vision is slightly larger than full frame would that mathematically get rid of the vignetting, specifically on the dzo 21mm? thank you.

[@paulusschmaulus101]

If you're interested in a product and you find a Gerald Undone vid about it you can be sure to find all detailed info you'll ever need in there. Love your stuff man

[@DA_Fuller]

Hooray! A new video 😊👏

[@DeShlivk]

Great Video! Was really hoping your test them with a speedbooster though. have yet to understand if they fit.

[@Shauny_D]

Do they match color and character with their Catta Ace zooms,???

[@MikoajSzczepka]

We're waiting for meike full frame cinema lens review!

[@fatmaddin2000]

Yes totally agree! I'd like to see 50mm DZOFilm Vespid vs Meike Prime...

[@iamkuntryboi]

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[@enginnheima3356]

agreed!

[@SmellyAlways]

Question: will they work with speed boosters since the zooms dont

[@vicentetintorer299]

did someone find out if the vespids work with speedboosters?

[@AlexPotvin]

The glare is actually pretty darn high. We paired these with the new BM 12k and you can tell in a lot of the videos we put out that they produce that wedding/dream hazy look when we expose for the Black magics (we push lights higher since the sensor is noise heavy).

[@FTGTapGod]

Great video as usual! It's always interesting to see more simple optic designs compared against modern lenses especially in the photo space. A certain level of softness is usually really pleasing and things like that cat eye bokeh are sometimes sought after in the cinema space with lenses like the Clavius lenses even having a fake insert for it. I really like the overall look of the Vespids and I agree they are probably some of the best value lenses in this segment. I'm on a waitlist for an upcoming set from Dulens (the APO Mini Primes) and their optic designer is taking heavy influence from vintage cinema lenses (retrofocus, double-glauss, etc..). They breath like Ultra Primes, have a rainbow circle flare, bokeh deformations, they are very "imperfect". An APO design though so no CA. I'm excited to compare the two when they ship. As well as compare them both against my cinemodded vintage sets like the Contax Zeiss and Mamiya Sekor C.

[@zacharyj.5329]

How was the comparison my friend? Did you prefer the APO over the Vespid? Would be interested in your results and test.

[@FTGTapGod]

@@zacharyj.5329 Still waiting on the set. Because of the Covid Lockdown in China, wait times have increased.

[@zacharyj.5329]

@@FTGTapGod Thank you my friend

[@visceralpsyche]

Thanks for this review :) The pricing is approaching that of vintage prime sets from the stills world like my favourite Contax Zeiss lenses, so I can definitely see the appeal to get a matched set with gears and full manual control already in place. A matte box will take care of most of the veiling flare so that's not a big deal in the cinema world.

[@MrJaynice5]

Can you use these lenses be used on the Canon C70 focal reducer adapter ?

[@BigBadroid]

Full kit for $6800 * Cries in poor *

[@MikeMarrah]

I'm Gerald Undone, and I micro manage macro details

[@nate_dodge]

Is it dumb to get a set of full frame cine lenses for my super35 sensor camera? Probably better to look for a set that was built for super35 yeah? so I'm not constantly dealing with crop factors

[@fedelorenzo7691]

How this lenses compare to the rokinon in terms of image quality? (Vignetting, overall look). Could it be like an upgrade?

[@briankrantz9663]

Another helpful review... noticed harsh “es” in the audio from you new studio set up. I recall you were still working on that

[@enginnheima3356]

Like so many before me, I would like to see a comparison between these lenses and the full frame cine primes from Meike. Thanks for great content!

[@mannymanix8421]

Please talk about the noise reduction in the Sony a 7S3… I’ve heard so many people saying that it makes the shadows muddy that he’s kind of scared me from buying it. Please explain?

[@isikoabubaker2743]

Thanks for the review, I actually have a budget for only one lens which one should I buy first 35mm or 50mm ? I really need ur recommendation I don't have any lens.

[@boiarkinru]

Thank you very much for your review!!! Please tell me how these lenses compare to Leica R? I am interested in contrast, sharpness and color reproduction. I really love my Leica R set. Will I get more picture quality when I buy a Vespid set?

[@woodypaul_]

Would love your opinion on the SLR Magic Micro Primes.

[@RamboNisse]

Cannot find any good review on the Xeen CF. You mention them here, what is better and what is worse than the DZO primes?

[@TakeMasaki]

Thank you for such detailed review. I am looking forward to get a set of Vespid Primes, and now I am a bit confused of which mount should I chose that's more future prove and more versatile in-terms of working with other cameras.

[@kevin.creates4941]

Can you do a video for the IRIX lens? Im really thinking of getting that since its far more affordable

[@clementinho04]

Hey Gerald, did you find that the Vespids are a little bigger than 80mm OD? My Tilta MB-T12 can clamp on them fine but my Wooden Camera Zip Box Pro can’t. Also, I’d like to see a video in the near future about how you correct for transverse CA in post!

[@arlo.guthrie]

Thanks for this very helpful review. Couple of questions for you (or anyone who has used the 90mm macro). Is the focus breathing on the 90mm macro so bad you can't pull focus (in which case why would they put a focus ring on it!). And secondly, I've seen reviews of the Irix 150mm macro which says the focus so SO, SO sensitive, like a couple of mm on the focus ring equates to 20-30ft, making it almost impossible to nail the focus. How is the DZO 90mm on that front? Thanks in advance for any help.

[@SuperNicktendo]

Always like the cinema lenses. I have a Magic SLR 35mm t1.3 that has served me well over the past 2 years. Thinking of getting a macro for some better close up shots.

[@jamesshort6856]

I saw these in your Instagram story and I was so exited to see what you thought!

[@MrGarryRollo]

If I have a chance to buy only one lens (for now) what should I buy?

[@TheAlvysinger]

Thx a lot for your review ! I would like to know wich lens is the best value : Xeen CF or DZO Vespid Primes ? A follower from France

[@jacobwagler]

Hey Gerald, do you know of any companies selling the primes in Canada as of yet? I believe they are just selling from the states at the moment but I could be wrong.

[@PigWrangler]

Gerald, I might have missed it in the video but how stiff is the lens focus ring? Do you need a Tilta Nucleus to pull it or would a nano suffice? Got a set preordered and waiting to get it and shooting a film (hopefully) with this kit in march if it shows up. Was needing to figure out if I need to secure a full nucleus kit.

[@georgemelo5326]

Bro do you recommend theses lens to use with sony a7siii using a metabones?

[@nevillemonteiro2981]

Which lens do you think is good as compared to Sigma High Speed cine lens if you're on a budget?

[@rene.rodriguez]

Excellent video. I’m new to this space. How will full frame lenses work with super 35, like BMPCC 6K?

[@BenAMPri]

Hey Gerald whats about the Xeen CF? Maybe a good competiton?

[@hoomansadeghloo7752]

Which adapter you recommend for dzovespid EF Too Sony FX3?

[@keithdavis1941]

have you reviewed the Meike ff cinema lenses?

[@bobbydrake8965]

How do you correct aberrations in post?

[@NSFA]

Nice vid Gerald. Any opinion on the Meike cine lens lineup? I noticed u haven't reviewed them so just curious. Cheers mate!

[@TEN27]

How do these compare to the SLRMagic APO HyperPrimes?

[@tylerebata5191]

How do these standup against SLR Magic APO microphones or Meike lenses? They’re all in that nice, ~$1200 price range

[@MartinLisius]

Well done, Gerald!

[@rishtofen]

I was waiting for this video since you said in your instagram story to skip these vespid lenses haha. The question is, are they better than xeen cf? or the slr magic? I have read in these last two that they have a lot of breathing although they are faster than dzo. What would you invest in? thanks Gerald, as always you are the #1

[@binaryinfections]

So when you say Xeen, are you saying Xeen CF or the Xeen CF Pro???

[@awkwardmax3499]

Thank you Gerald. Yet again, I am undone.

[@throwdown515]

Hey Gerald, excellent review. Seeing as how 50mm isn’t your first choice, I’m curious what your “go-to” prime is?

[@mikefowler3514]

would love to get your thoughts on the newish Meike ff-prime lineup.

[@aloharay]

I am absolutely not a pro, but immediately said "that looks really off/soft, hmmm... I do not like that look" upon seeing footage through these lenses. Considering how much time/money is invested OTHER than camera equipment in a project that you are going to shoot, spending more on the lens that can undo all that investment is probably a good choice. Or am I missing something here? Where do these lenses make sense?

[@rowanstrang8072]

Can you please review the Shuri anamorphics?

[@wherearewetoday7023]

Can you please do a Xeen cine lens review? Would love to see your review.

[@timwithers2866]

Great video, thanks Gerald. Have you used or thought of reviewing the Meike full frame cinema primes? Designed by the same people that made the Veydra lenses apparently.

[@thatsreallyamoon]

Always a fan of more and more options for cine lenses!

[@sethie_shots]

Having seen the BTS of this studio setup I love the vids ❤️

[@professionalpotato4764]

I wonder how these compare to the Rokinon Cine DS...

[@olly5896]

Best intro caption yet

[@theshortlist]

I quite like these lenses but because of distortion.. i think i all try Irix !

[@roland.boyden]

Ever since I got my first Veydra lens, and then Meike I've been trying to understand what makes them feel so cinematic. DZO's lenses seems to be in this category too (from what I can tell from test footage). I have a theory that it has to do with well controlled Spherical Aberration creating really immediate smooth focus fall off but I really don't know at all. It would be fantastic to have that topic get the Gerald Undone treatment--see what objectively it is that makes some of those budget lenses that are purpose-built for cine (not rehoused stills like Sigma or Rokinon) just look so much more cinematic.

[@roland.boyden]

Or maybe this is just a category where there is no non-subjective answer. I have no idea. but I like the idea that all these traits that get described as cinematic or organic or filmic actually have scientific explanations to them.

[@husainfoolath4287]

If I may ask, which do you prefer, these or the Meikes?

[@roland.boyden]

@@husainfoolath4287 Overall I think I prefer the Meike lenses (but it's close). But they also don't have a full set out yet so if you need to shoot a feature or something now then DZO makes more sense. The telephoto DZOs are beautiful but the 25 and 35 just didn't do it for me when I rented them. They felt a little soulless. Honestly I think Meike's Super 35 lenses look even nicer than their Full Frame ones though so if your camera is Super 35 would 110% recommend getting their Super 35 lenses instead.

[@husainfoolath4287]

These are better than Meike full frame sensors?

[@creativegreatsvisuals]

What zooms match with these ?

[@QAjimine1]

Can you please test SLR Magic's MicroPrime Cine lenses?

[@rayt_visual]

Gerald, would you do a review of the Meike FF 50 vs the 50mm Vespid? So many options in this level of Cine lenses, and I have also thought about getting one of these as a owner operator, but no one has tested the Meike, Xeen and Vespid ... Just thought I would ask. ;) Thanks for the review overall.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I can stick with the Leica R and Contax Zeiss for a bit longer...and for a fraction of the price compared to these dzofilm lenses. Great review Gerald, thank you so much!

[@KarelSchepp]

hey! could you please make a review of the DZO zooms?

[@radfield6089]

Would love to hear your opinion on their super 35 cine zooms, the pictors.

[@damiensantillan6125]

Is the filter thread 77mm?

[@capturecorpmedia]

Are they stiff for the focus ring? Or are they fluid?

[@insanejughead]

Fluid, but dampened. They used quality grease that won't freeze in sub temps, not get into the aperture blades and elements in tropical/desert weather.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Interesting! Nice video ✌️

[@myvideoguy]

great review, thank you

[@theonex9953]

does recording video damages camera sensor at all? gerald please help me with this!

[@insanejughead]

No. Unless you perhaps subjected the sensor to unfiltered UV light for an extended amount of time. As far as heat goes, the camera will shut off way before the sensor takes damage.

[@mannypvd2296]

Have you used the sigma cinema camera thing? Would be cool to watch a video on that thing. I think its sigma FP

[@VariTimo]

Okay I’m already out. Maybe it’s just me but where’s the 27mm and 40mm? The 40mm is a must in my opinion.

[@briankrantz9663]

Would love to see a review of Zeiss CP .3 compact Cinelenses in e-mount

[@ishudshutup]

I dunno, that sharpness test vs the Sigma killed it for me. The DZOFILM lens looked quite out of focus in comparison, doesn't seem worth it to save a few hundred. Perhaps you could do a quick comparison video vs the other cine lenses it it's price range?

[@humbermartinez2067]

Can you make a review of the SLR Magic Microprime mft kit

[@hitthesynth6417]

SLR magic are optically good but terrible at focus breathing... I was going to take a kit for Fuji but saw a focus breathing test and was shocked... For the price the old Fuji lens 1.4 (at least 16mm macro and 23mm have no focus breathing at all, light, same format insane optics...) Considering those vespid have skyrocket in one month since I began to search for a cine kit (all dzofilm have taken 300€ ) they are no longer a good deal in my opinion. At almost 1600€ you can have better option for slightly more or almost as good (irix, meike?) For way less.