E124 Gary Taubes makes a case for the ketogenic diet and its metabolic benefits

Today we have journalist Gary Taubes making a repeat appearance on STEM-Talk to discuss his new book, “The Case for Keto: Rethinking Weight Control and the Science and Practice of Low-Carb/High-Fat Eating.”
Our interview with Gary in 2016, episode 37, followed the release of his book, “The Case Against Sugar,” which went on to become a New York Times best seller. “The Case for Keto” is Gary’s fourth book about diet and chronic disease.
Gary made national headlines in 2002 when he wrote an article for the New York Times Magazine challenging the low-fat orthodoxy that had held sway in America since the 1970s. In the article, titled “What if It’s All Been a Big Fat Lie,” Gary wrote that perhaps Dr. Robert Atkins with his Atkins Diet was correct in suggesting that it’s not fat that makes us fat, but carbohydrates.
Our conversation with Gary covered a lot of ground, and we have divided his interview into two parts. Today we talk to Gary about his reasons for writing the new book and how opinions on a low-carb and high-fat diet have changed over the past 20 years. In part two of our interview with Gary, we dig deeper into his efforts to set the record straight about the role of diet and weight control in preventing chronic diseases, as well as the role that diet plays in helping people improve their health spans.
Gary turned to journalism back in the 1970s after receiving his master’s degree in aeronautical engineering from Stanford University. Today, he continues to practice journalism and is the founder and director of the Nutrition Science Initiative.
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[@gj9933]

What a pivot! From aeronautical engineering to nutrition journalism .

[@alexr6114]

Gary Taubes was trained as a scientist. Most physicians are not trained as scientists after their undergraduate degree. They are trained in conventional medicine, which is more of a memorize what is accepted medicine with very little testing of hypotheses unless the doctor also is in a Ph.D. program. The scientists who are trained as biologists, biochemists, biophysicists, etc. are the people who are trained to test hypotheses, modify the hypotheses to fit the results of the previous experiments until the experimental results are consistent with the hypothesis and the hypothesis can be used to successfully predict results.

[@Dan-jo8py]

The only thing I disagree with is him still backing away from 'oh well they're not actually dishonest, it's not fraud' - yes, they are, and yes, it is. The literal definition of criminal fraud is making wilful or reckless false statements for financial gain which is what these people do, but because 'it's academia' these people feel it's a slap on the wrist issue rather than a throw them in prison issue which is what is actually should be....

[@y.g.1313]

Yes, Taubes is degenerating into mellowing out and accepting more mainstream BS, instead of going deeper and exposing more and more of their fraud. allways mumbling: we need more evidence etc. years ago he was way more invigorating and energized. Spent too much time smoosing around at cocktail parties with mainstream mofos?

[@tanyawilson8111]

Thank you! I love to hear the truth.

[@zebonautsmith1541]

Had a relative on a high sugar diet pass from lung cancer. Didn't smoke. Which clearly suggests a dietary sugar origin from long term mitochondrial damage. I believe Keto or Carnivore would have been more protective. And it's funny that no one ever argues a slippery high fat diet doesn't "lubricate" the arteries.

[@mustavogaia2655]

The episode went well until the middle of the runtime.

[@paulhelman2376]

Insulin and glucagon produced in close. Proximity by. Beta and alpha cells in the pancreatic islets. This relationship disrupted in chronic carbohydrate abuse.

[@britinbrazil7912]

Crisco is not keto. Crisco is produced from industialized seed and vegetable oils and is highly inflammatory. Instead of Crisco, this anecdotal "friend" should be told to avoid Crisco and use animal fats. This is the problem with so much crappy advice on the internet regarding diet. Lazy keto is one of those.

[@rolfsimonsson2295]

Gary Taubes has to come clean about the distorted facts about the keto research. It’s a shame stemtalk hasn’t looked into the findings before they give G. Taubes airtime to promote his falsified theories.

[@garyjackson4054]

Look closer, further with an open mind. If you are not dogmatic you may surprise yourself. Read his book as well as The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz, Sacred Cow by Diana Rodgers, Good Fat is Good for Women Menopause by Elizabeth Bright and study the work of Prof. Tim Noakes Prof. Steve Phinney Prof. Robert Lustig Prof. Bart Kay Dr Paul Mason Dr Anthony Chaffee Dr Peter Attia Dr Peter Brukner Dr David Unwin

[@alxmnslv]

lol

[@ketolomics]

Such as...

[@CalaverasSteve]

Every single controlled study comparing low carb keto against “healthy” high carb diet the keto wins. These controlled studies are not distorted. What is distorted are the population “studies” that claim to prove otherwise. Taubes theories are validated, not falsified. It is these worthless unscientific population studies that have and continue to make Americans sick and diabetic.