Gary Taubes & Dr Berry Discuss THE CASE FOR KETO

[@computertooter]

Mr. Taubes please do not underestimate or doubt how much you are helping us, especially those of us who have no health insurance and thus no access to doctors. I should be sending checks to you both. In a way I am because I am buying your book which is all I can afford. I guess what I am trying to do is thank you for reaching out to the under served.

[@clovermark39]

That’s what I do. I paid for the physical book which I can lend to people and have a kindle copy. Love Mr Taubes. I think I have read all his books and bought copies. Well worth the investment.

[@kannstewy]

I hadn't been to a doctor in 20 years, perhaps longer, but went after an incident of blurry vision one morning. A poor lab result sent me running to a low-carb diet, as I knew it would turn things around. In three months, labs were perfect, vision perfect, as well as several other additional benefits that were completely unexpected...one big change was suddenly sleeping all night long! On the 3 month visit, the dr was floored...and I was floored by her reaction. She wanted all the details on what I was doing (she had said she didn't think I could sustain such a change nor did she think it would 'work'). That was approx five years ago. I live a low-carb/no grains lifestyle and enjoy good health.

[@elderdna4888]

My wife and I started March 2019, we have lost 135 combined pounds and many many inches. Keto has saved my family in so many ways. I thank you for all the great information.

[@jrstuckey1471]

Hahaha.. amazing what cutting out bad sugars does. Once your body takes to the new food and calories the weight just melts off.

[@jrstuckey1471]

Congrats

[@mattdonlan7745]

I made a comment on Reddit not two days ago about carb calories being more dangerous than fat or protein calories and had someone say that "everyone knows a calorie is a calorie based on thermodynamics." Ugh. I tried to explain that fat and protein are satiating, and carb calories are not so you end up eating many more carb calories to feel full than you would with fat or protein. They told me I was crazy. Keep up the fight!

[@jeannedigennaro6484]

Protein uses up more calories to digest, too.

[@LKN4WAR]

Calorie is not a calorie even if you don’t eat more of them as carbs. The body doesn’t care about calories it cares about hormones and biochemical reactions. It so simplistic to say calorie in and calorie out. They have done studies showing identical genetically rats eating same calorie and one group gets fatter than the other. Depending on what foods they eat. Clearly morons over there. And none of this violates any of the first law. I think Reddit of full of people demonstrating the 2nd law. They all have entropy of the brain. Zero critical thinking skills.

[@DrizzIee]

@@LKN4WAR CICO always work though, hormones are bullsh1t.

[@iangibblet8165]

You mean 100 calories of coal is different from 100 calories of beef? Wow!

[@rjreddenbaker4351]

Ugh _ Amazing it's so hard for so many to realize that the human body is a little more complex than a furnace where they just burn things to measure calories. Really hard to overcome that CICO mentality since it's just so damned ingrained.

[@6833]

Being on keto for over 1 year now at 52 I feel like a teenager again.

[@anngragg6119]

I know what mean, I am 57 and I have so much energy to get through the day. Keto was a God send for me

[@enigmatistic8470]

Libido isn't in public discourse as it may be indiscrete but even as a teenager my libido wasn't as high as 40.

[@6833]

@@T-aka-T got You! Lol

[@lightgearwire]

I feel so good I gotta were shades 😎

[@iangibblet8165]

Did you stay in ketosis for that entire year?

[@judyweigl9604]

I, also, had to tell my Dr. what I was no longer eating, because she couldn’t understand why my bloodwork and weight loss had such a turnaround. For years I was trying all the “diets” that what was supposed to be healthy. HA! I kept getting worse and worse until I finally stopped sugars, grains, and starchy vegetables. I also credit that way of eating to surviving some kind of virus last year and I”m 70+.

[@paulasamec8715]

So did I, also following this diet, even though I had this virus maybe even twice in 3 weeks after returning from Vietnam without taking any medication except an antimicrobial ointment just by staying in bed for four days the first time and a week the second one, which was more severe!

[@AR-ls5iu]

I've been low carb/no sugar/no processed foods for 4 years. I ate more beef but not much more (I didn't grow up on it so for me its been an acquired taste). My bad/good chol and triglycerides remained high. It wasn't until last month, after a close friend died suddenly from uncontrolled t2 diabetes, that I decided to fully eliminate ALL grains even though I had already cut way down by 95%. My latest bloodwork last week shows my bad chol is in normal range, the good chol went up, and the triglycerides are now well into normal range! Did I mention I'm eating more beef and eggs now too?

[@judyweigl9604]

@@AR-ls5iu So sorry to hear about your friend. I am glad you found what works for you.

[@ronnapierson7178]

I’m thinking that the older we get, the safer we are with LCHF. Safer to including excellently fighting off creepy viruses.😊

[@cancan2580]

I’m a young doctor (going into rads), but I preach this to the patients I do see in residency. KZbin is helping the keto diet and its results to be shared among this new generation of physicians. Have faith! And knowledge is already at the hands of our patients, literally. I’ve seen results in myself, I’m so much happier. We all deserve this.

[@davidh9638]

Are you able to get patients a keto/lowcarb meal out of the hospital kitchen?

[@mindmatters9515]

If Dr Ken Berry is the father of keto- then Gary Taubes is the Grandfather of Keto! Excellent information gentlemen!

[@donnakeizer1468]

Not according to Gods health laws

[@mickchill2358]

And Dr Robert Atkins was the Great Grandfather of Keto!!

[@henrytang2203]

William Banting takes it back to the 1800s.

[@hbrown3953]

@@donnakeizer1468 keto started long before both of these doctors I think you are coming late to the party this party was started years ago Dr Barry's just at the tip of it I like Dr Berry but he is not the father of keto I think you need to read a lot more

[@Kinkle_Z]

I could listen to Gary Taubes all night!

[@jeffallen4113]

Keto 50 lbs off in 7 months. Restored my health to about 80 percent. I decided to finish my healing doing KetoVore. 12 more pounds lost. And I have 35 more to go to reach my High School health. I’m convinced we just need to be educated. Thanks to guys like this. We can do it.

[@anngragg6119]

I started keto March 1st 2021. My weight then was 235 lbs I was taking 2000mgs of metformin and 100mg of januvia. My weight is now 192 and I no longer take any drugs for diabetes and my cholesterol is looking good

[@20greeneyes20]

Congratulations 👏 that's wonderful !!!!

[@jen1778]

Wow! That's amazing. Well done 👏👏👏👏👏

[@elisafernandes788]

Congratulations 🎉👏👏👏

[@richardjohnson4065]

This is exactly the results I would love to achieve

[@richardjohnson4065]

Congrats to you

[@donstewart368]

My Dr told me to never get on the internet and only listen to him and never never self medicate. I fired him.

[@TheCinder24]

If I never searched for the why's and how's to fix my many health conditions, I would be totally disabled, sick and depressed right now. We have to advocate for ourselves and others. To follow blindly is a death sentence for many

[@paulasamec8715]

The right action! 10 years ago when I was suffering from Polymyalgia Rheumatica I had consulted 5 doctors, had a ton of therapies and unfortunately I trusted these doctors because I had discovered quite early on my disease but didn’t have enough trust in my own discovery even though one of them agreed with me but I still didn’t believe myself until finally I found an expert who knew it from the first appointment. His colleague in rheumatology didn’t have a clue, neither did the two orthopaedic physicians!

[@craftyHPLover367]

A past provider yelled at me during one appointment about doing "too much research"... WTH is that? 😂 😂 😂😂😂😂😂... Even my current doctor is fussing at my cholesterol being up 20 points, total of course, from 170-190, and wanted to put me on a statin at my appointment this week. I said no and made the point that it's been 11 weeks, after a few years of eating the SAD again. Give me a chance to fix myself first

[@nancyk7874]

Good!

[@kathynewkirk683]

If we can do research, so can medical doctors

[@butchknapp8822]

I have lost 160 pounds in 8 months using Keto/fasting. All thanks to Doctor Berry and other doctors who taught to us PHD as a permanent lifestyle. Thank you!

[@davidh9638]

Good for you. It took me two years to drop 160 lbs.

[@petercallinicos]

Thanks to Dr. Berry I am now carnivor and I will never go back to eating the slow death foods. Wheat, grains and sugar.

[@johncartwright4041]

Hello from Brisbane Australia. My wife and I started the keto diet on July 4, 2020 (an easy date to remember). We DID NOT consult our doctor because I don't think he is "keto friendly ". He reclassified me form type 2 to pre-diabetic. We've both lost about 7 Kg each. Me wife is from Hong Kong and a couple of days ago she saw a discussion on HK KZbin about keto. She was very excited to hear the details in her own language and this has reinforced her resolve to make more effort with keto.

[@ascendtoaesthetics]

considered going carnivorous?

[@bettiblanchard873]

2 people that really care. I went carnivore for1 month and my cardiologist dismissed me from his service saying he had never had a patient drop their cholesterol so much. He didn’t have anything to treat. And then my kidney doc called to say all my blood work was perfect I’ll see you in a year. So it works to eliminate complex carbs. I still eat some every once in a while but not very often.

[@raewise6345]

When a doctor lifts their head and wakes up, things change!There's a lot more $$ and support for doc's who have complied. But I think those days are over. The patients have woken up, and we are spreading the word!! Thank God for you to use social media to connect with us!!! Never give up ⭐

[@delphinekirkland1757]

Haha, you asked for it! I love my keto success story! I lost 56lbs 2 years ago. And now, I'm 61 years old and I feel healthy and strong, I don't get tired until it's bedtime..and then some, and I sleep like a baby. I don't feel a five mile a day hike. I never get sick; can't recall the last cold, flu or sore throat. My weight is where I want it; love the way I look in my clothes. I study, learn and remember constantly. I get along with the people around me. When my husband of 35 years passed away suddenly I grieved and addressed the loss but, I didn't fall apart or fall into a deep emotional pit; I dealt with the change. I feel in control of my physical and mental health and wellbeing so I feel at peace. I'm happy. I was not the opposite of all of these things before I delved deeply into keto. But it's made everything healthier and easier. And yes, I look 15-20 years younger than I am.

[@lindalotfi3203]

Wow! Our stories are similar. I just started keto June 14, 2021. It's been an eye opener for me and I am so happy to be on the right track for the first time in my life at 61. I weighed 310 in June 2020. I then lost 50 pounds on my own last year on a strict low cal low fat diet. I had to remain on a low cal diet low fat diet just to maintain my weight. I have lost another 20 lbs so far doing keto and I have never felt better! I have about 50 more lbs to lose to meet my goal! 💖🙂

[@sheilasheffieldfamily8007]

My keto story is totally opposite I was doing good lost about 30 lbs and my mama got sick and she passed away and I fell off the wagon and gained it all back . I have a lot of stress in my life but I am trying to get back on track. I still have times I find myself eating my feelings 🤣. Love hearing your great success story!

[@delphinekirkland1757]

@@sheilasheffieldfamily8007 Hope you find a place to begin again. Comfort foods that fit the lifestyle help sometimes.

[@margaretblack8538]

@@lindalotfi3203 Well done Linda you are 100% brilliant. 😊

[@juliafayeconner8978]

I live in Alanreed, Texas. I am trying to get back on ketovore. I was doing well until my daughter and grandson moved in with me during the pandemic in March of last year. They didn’t want to do the ketovore with me so I gradually reverted back to eating everything with them and gained back all that I had lost. My joints began hurting again and I don’t have any energy anymore. I am going back to ketovore and intermittent fasting.

[@lorifuller5921]

You can do this Julia! Your daughter and grandson might get inspiration from your success 😉!

[@Sam_Saraguy]

The analogy to poison is a good one. When you start consuming it again, all the bad stuff comes back.

[@pilgrimlady8196]

Sounds like you abdicated to their bad eating habits. Put yourself first!

[@barblacy619]

The non achy joints are amazing. Looking back, I was high sugar, refined carbs stress eating and the more I ached the more I ate...I feel so much better and fuller. I am not frightened to fast any more because I don’t get headaches or hunger pains. I feel great with dirty fasting (almond milk in my coffee) and clean keto (Whole Foods). I could never fast for 22 hours before. Not even 10...I am so glad I wandered into keto land.😊

[@deanhobbs7507]

I wish you success

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

I get choked up when I listen to vlogs like this. I went keto three years ago in a desperate move to fix my brain after a viral disease got into my head causing cranial nerve damage and meningitis. Keto got me back on my feet after two years of being bedridden and sleeping (more like being passed out) around the clock. So my very sickly younger sister finally overcame her fear of dietary fat and joined my diet. Vastly improved are her blood panels, seriously surprising her doctor. My sister has iron deficient anemia requiring blood and iron transfusions several times a year. She’s in the normal range for the first time in many years. Just like that. She also has COPD, disabling arthritis and metabolic disorders. All improved and she’s lost 10 pounds. I’m so grateful that she took the plunge. Hey everyone, talk to your loved ones. Show them your blood work. Challenge them to a one month trial. Great interview. Loved it!

[@JohnSmith-zi9or]

I have to get a physical every six months for my work. On my previous physical I was 6'2 256lbs. However, after two months on KETO my weight dropped to 232lbs. My goal was to be 6'2 and 225lbs. When I went to go see my doctor, he looked at my numbers and he yells out "Wow .. what did you do? You are way down!" And I said, "I stopped eating carbs or low carbs and I started walking." (Previously I would go to the gym and do cardio until my heart rate would peak out and see how long I could hold that. Now, I keep myself in the fat burning range ... max 128BPM.) My doctor was floored. Every metric in my bloodwork was within the range except for my total cholesterol, it was 208. And I'll take 208 any day! I left a strict KETO diet and had a diet what I could call very low carbs -- I'd eat them if they were on the plate, but only a couple of spoons full. On the next 6 month physical, my weight was 223! Instead of regressing, I held my weight off. I feel so much better. My sleep is more productive and I am not tired throughout the day. I love beer and if I go out with the boys, I will have a couple of Michelob Ultras (2.6 carbs each) and it doesn't kick me out of KETO. Over Covid 2020, my diet suffered because of the restaurant closures and being on the road for work and finding real food to eat. But I am now on strict KETO and I can already feel the benefits. I don't think I will go back to an unhealthy crap food again.

[@pilgrimlady8196]

Great results!

[@bettiblanchard873]

That is so inspiring. Thanks for your story.

[@margaretblack8538]

Wow, that's brilliant John. Well done. 🙂👍✔

[@3Meitli]

I’m 79 yo and I started keto three weeks ago. My blood pressure went from 137/91 to 112/71. I had to stop my water pill, so that I would not get light headed. I check my bp each morning carefully.

[@melissaandrews1603]

I started with high fat, moderate protein and low carb and lost 75 lbs. Then I stalled for 6 months. I switched to high protein, moderate fat and 0 carb and am now losing weight, again. (50 years old, female, 5’2”, starting weight 263, down to 188, goal weight 135.)

[@margaretblack8538]

Wow, well done Melissa keep going gal. 👏👍✔😊

[@6833]

Dr Berry made me to be a doctor for myself. Thanks Dr Berry!

[@RickMastalka]

Gary Taubes book Why We Get Fat changed my life. So great to hear this dialogue between you two. Hopefully, the truth will eventually be accepted by the medical community at large and therefore by more unhealthy individuals. Thanks Dr. Berry!

[@timshel011]

Let's not hold our breath's in the meantime...

[@michelleducote6224]

Rick…me too! Read that book 10 years ago and it was mind blowing!

[@mikeob9502]

Great interview, Dr. Berry-and with such a person as Gary Taubes to whom we all owe a tremendous debt of thanks and appreciation . . . Yes, I am one of the believers that, as Gary alluded to, watches for your latest KZbin videos daily.

[@iamfaithfullyhis]

Temecula Ca.! Day 1 keto! I have severe fatty liver, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, obese. Donald's wife, and post menopause, with OA in my knees. Thank you for saving my life.

[@marieosborne1519]

Perth, West Australia. Keto/low carb for 3.5 years, lost 15kg and now in healthy maintenance mode, 63 y.o feel like 33 y.o.

[@giraffesareselfish9563]

I read Mr. Taubs' book Good Calories, Bad Calories several years ago, outstanding

[@randallsample1005]

I read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" when it was first released, and firmly believe it is the most important book about nutrition and health written in the past 50 years. Thank you, Dr. Berry, for bringing him on as a guest.

[@michaeldillon3113]

When Mr Taubes was talking about how when insulin came along , the low carb diet went out the window reinforced something I came across just yesterday . I met someone who had lost 10 stone after a gastric banding . However , here's the thing - that person was a type 1 diabetic from their mid teens ! I didn't have chance to ask them what type of dietary advice they had been given, but my reaction was ' how the heck did a type 1 diabetic get so big ' ? Type 1 diabetes , prior to treatment, gives so many clues on how to lose weight , and here we have a person getting morbidly obese post treatment . Again more clues on how to put on weight . ' The Diet Delusion ' - what a seminal book . All credit to Mr Taubes for that great book . Part of the paradox is that it was a journalist rather than a medic who wrote it . Great discussion gentleman . Thank you .

[@jeanpalomares9831]

Florida

[@michaeldillon3113]

@@jeanpalomares9831 Excuse my brain fog ( it's the English damp ) but is there something subtle about that Florida comment I missed 😟?

[@kamilah_wyrd811]

@@michaeldillon3113 If I had to guess it's probably coming from an older, less tech-savvy individual who commented in the wrong place when Dr. Berry asked people where they were watching from. I've seen the same thing on several of his videos.

[@michaeldillon3113]

@@kamilah_wyrd811 thank you . I am from the Isle of Sheppey , Kent , England - if anyone is interested .

[@elfischuster5727]

@@michaeldillon3113 😂

[@PaleoMeat]

Gary Taubes changed my life in 2008 with Good Calories Bad Calories. That book gave me the years to have my life changed again when my physical therapist recommended Carnivore a couple months ago, and that led me to Dr. Berry. Now I'm watching my A1C dropping like a rock, BP suddenly normalize... even my CKD numbers have begun to improve for the first time in 26 years. All this is happening so quickly, I have had to discontinue all 5 of my prescription medications. I've also succeeded in stopping my twice-daily Cetirizine.

[@SophiaofTao]

I'd rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned! Thank you Mr. Taubes and Dr. Berry for continuing to stay open minded and question the mistaken medical conclusions that fat was bad and sugar was good. You're both helping so many people, just because you cared enough to question....the (supposed) truth and dis-cover (remove the cover over) the actual truth!

[@tangomcphearson74]

Age: 66 years young . Started Keto in February 2021 - Transitioned to Carnivore May, 2021. Weight: 225 and Type 2 diabetic with High blood pressure. Today: August 28th, 2021. Weight: 172, Blood Pressure 116/70's, no more acid reflux, joint pain gone, Last HbA1c 5.4 - so no more Type 2 Diabetes - On keto I counted total carbs (staying under 20) On carnivore - zero or under 5 gr. This is my lifestyle and I LOVE IT! It is very sustainable and I'm looking forward to getting to my maintenance phase in about 20 some odd pounds - my way of eating will probably not change much - maybe i'll add a few low oxalate, low carb veg at that time.

[@monsterslayer4317]

Thank you, Mr. Taubes, Good Calories Bad Calories saved my life, and led me to Dr. Berry's channel.

[@IQTech61]

Your not just Keto experts - you also have great insight into human nature.

[@debmary2999]

Just try and keep up your energy and passion guys!! We need you more than ever!!! Much love, Deb (Melbourne Australia)

[@mindsetwithmarie676]

Keto with all the fake foods didnt cut it for me anymore. I had to go full carnivore to cure my sugar addiction. I did work great for me in the past though and I def think it works when done right. I think my health had gotten just too bad at this point, and I needed results FAST! I had horrible digestive issues and a big bad rash that my doctor didnt know what to do with. It took only 2-3 weeks for the rash to resolve and days for my digestive issues. Whenever I slipped, it all came right back. I lost 22lbs and still going strong! Haven't felt this good in years! At this point its a lifestyle and not a diet. I can see what eating carbs and sugar does to my health. Im pretty young too, soon to be 29 yo... cant believe how I felt like dying most days. I'd spend days laying down because I was completely drained and sick. I love your work! Ill have to check Dr Taubes books, they seem great. Thanks for all the inspiration xx

[@Cutelittlecountrygirl]

SIZE 14 to Size 4, in 11 months (Size 18 to Size 8 other countries). MIND has not been this clear since I WAS 15. I AM 40ish.

[@jenniferjones3802]

Dr.Berry and Gary you are two exceptional human beings. It takes guts to swim against the tide. You have helped me enormously to reverse my prediabetes and set the course for my health to improve. THANK YOU both for your persistence. Jenny Jones

[@carmenmiller5701]

Thank you Dr. Berry, this was such a great session with one of my heroes, Gary Taubs. Keto for life!!

[@AndersWelander]

I was strongly urged by my doctor to attend a nutrition class for diabetics and there I was taught to eat no more than 15 g of carbs in 3 meals per day. I started out with that as ambition and began measuring my blood sugar and very soon the light finally came on in my head that sugar is the enemy, not the fat. I have drifted toward lower carbs and now I can say I am definitely on a keto diet with OMAD. My A1c dropped very quickly. Now it's become boring to measure blood sugar because it is always low and steady.

[@carnivoroushoneybee7862]

I started carnivore on 1/11/22 I have lost 12 pounds so far. I'm sure it will slow down but I feel so much better. My chronic heartburn is almost gone.

[@khwezimngoma]

Last year I weighed 178kg (1.82m tall, 42yrs old), visited my GP did blood tests, was given an all clear to attempt a 7 day water fast, I lost 10kg. My diet was bad, and had a lot of stress, so I gained it 10kg back and an addition bit of weight. Three weeks ago, I went to see the GP and Cardiologist due to heart palpitations, my results showed that I was fine except for my weight. They both advised I lose the weight (at the time I was weighed @ 187kg). I started watching your channel and a few other doctors online, I then formulated a modified version that basically incorporated water fasting (ADF), keto and paleo. Last week I lost 20kg, this week I lost 12.9kg, am now sitting at 153.6kg. Each time I weighed I couldn't believe it, I weighed 4-10 times and each time the scale varied slightly, I have my 4yr old daughter as a control for the scale just in case the scale was buggy. That's my ongoing transformation story so far. Thank you for the wonderful and very helpful content, I feel great and looking forward to the coming weeks and months of progress.

[@MD1084.]

My triglycerides went from 318 now 102 My cholesterol was 164 now 173 eating a proper human diet. Thanks Dr berry

[@KenDBerryMD]

Great job!

[@debbietaylor20]

My ldl skyrocketed, triglycerides good , hdl good ,always had high cholesterol and gp always trying to get me to start statins .

[@jeannedigennaro6484]

Thanks for having this brilliant investigative reporter on your channel. He is at the pinnacle of science writing.

[@sujatiesler3917]

My keto success story: I started keto and IF mid January 2021. Used to take 3 bp pills, was kind of a couch potato, very very overweight and out of breath after going upstairs in my house. Today, no more pills (already after a couple of months), super active, no more being out of breath, no more junk food, lots of energy 😁. I am down 66 Ibs so far and almost back to normal weight🎉. Now I'm trying to convince my friends and family. Thank you Dr Berry & Neisha and Dr Fung for everything you do ❤️

[@mikewilson9862]

Thank you Dr. Berry, I've lost 48 lbs since 8-21 using your videos. Keep uo the good work!

[@rh001YT]

I was skeptical of keto claims. I'm 5'10" and weighed 190 and looked pregnant. I went keto and got my weight down to 165 in 6 months...all without much exercise cuz I's had a mini-stroke and could only do resistance band physical therapy exercise. Carb cravings went away as did back and joint pain. Feel 10 to 20 years younger.

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Yay to you for taking charge of your own health. Everything in American culture tells us to relax and order a pizza! It’s hard to buck the whole system, but I’m enjoying my food more than ever and I’m healthier and healthier.

[@loriferguson5996]

I will read his new book. I can't wait. The more information you have, the smarter you are. I am not diabetic, my husband is .

[@ccroo]

I truly, truly love these men. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@tomdavis5894]

Dr. Berry, I wish you were my personal physician...I love your caring, straight forward videos.

[@mickchill2358]

As a low carb/keto devotee since the days of Atkins, I found this interview involving two of the genuine living legends of the movement, very enjoyable and informative. It's like sitting down with old friends. I have been T2 diabetic for approximately 30 years and never been on insulin. I do take low doses of three medications: Metformin 2 x 500mg/day, Crestor 10mg every other day, and Ramipril 5mg/day. All blood work is fine. A1c is 6.5 which could and has been better. I am my Endocrinologist's record holder for non-insulin T2 for longest period by a margin of 16 years over the next in line. Low carb has been the key. I started with Atkins and am still basically there. The proof is in the keto pudding. Great to see these two high class gentlemen spreading the message with such passion, knowledge and belief. I am sure thousands will be helped by their efforts.

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

How many carbs do eat in a day? Sounds like more than you think? Just asking.

[@terryslipp3148]

Hello from Woodstock, New Brunswick. Dr Berry ...you put me on a journey that I believe has saved my life.

[@gallettiguitartones]

I missed the live but watching now, thanks for bringing on amazing people to share such helpful information Dr. Berry! Sending you many blessings 🙌 it's been 2yrs and 6month between keto and carnivore for my type 1 diabetes a1c 5.1%.

[@dort5436]

Good calories bad calories was a hard read when I first read it. 📚 When I re-read it last year, I understood it so much better as the terms were familiar. I was shocked about health fats after years of low fat eating. That brainwashing took a lot to break through.

[@dawnmarie9548]

When I read it 11 years ago, I had to re read many parts 2 or 3 times. It is a hard read when you first read it. But a life saver.

[@sportysbusiness]

Same here with the low fat eating. I think it's harder for us than guys, when I gave up carbs I struggled to eat enough fat because of decades of brainwashing telling me it was bad. I've just eaten a rump steak and the fat on the side, that I would have historically cut off and given to the dog, is now my favourite bit!!!

[@Jayc9582]

Agreed. I’ve read it multiple time now. It gets easier to understand every time for me.

[@ThoughtsOnNews]

I love this conversation. Consensus is an oxymoron to science. The 1st doctor to wash hands prior to surgery was put in an insane asylum after being laughed out of medicine. I did exactly what they told me and got sick & fat overnight. thank you ❤️❤️

[@Sam_Saraguy]

Thank you both for an excellent discussion.

[@therevddrruwanpalapathwala1463]

A fantastic and informative conversation, Dr Berry and Hon Taubes. While listening to the conversation, I purchased your book, Gary. Dr. Berry’s book “The Lies My Doctor Told Me” set me on my journey of discovery and learning. ☺️

[@amyb6747]

My whole life I have never had a good report from the dentist (the lack of cavities, plaque etc.). But since I have been following nearly a zero carb diet my dental report has been good, that I have been taking good care of my teeth, even though half of my teeth have been extracted and wear partial dentures. I told my dental hygienists that I haven't eaten sugar in almost 4 years and she was astonished. I am astonished that that dental office staff does not know that sugar causes cavities and plaque! I just recently was told by the dentist after getting my new dentures in order to go easy on my new teeth that I should eat a banana rather than the steak that I was going to try out my new teeth🤨. Apparently he has never heard of Weston Price.

[@WildIronInc]

Great stuff - Keep fighting against the censorship of quality science.

[@amyb6747]

I'm in the low carb groupthink🙂, because astoundingly my health improved dramatically after starting a low carb diet. At the age of 62 I can't recall ever feeling as healthy. BTW my HDL went from 62 to 98.

[@joannarippon3910]

Great interview! I’m just starting “The Case For Keto” now. Every day I’m grateful I started my keto journey back in 2017! 🙏🏼

[@shelbyh40]

I love you Dr. Berry but I felt like Gary did more listening than sharing his perspective. Appreciate your passion so much! Keep up the good work. :)

[@Paul-hl5ls]

My two favorite guys to listen to and ask questions

[@angryagain68]

I still see headlines from time to time (Just two weeks ago most recently) that say: "Keto is the absolute worst possible diet you can possibly be on"!. No supporting documentation. Just opinions that refer back to the "FDA recommended daily allowance of this veggie, and that grain etc. December 2018 my Dr. had his nurse call me and tell me: "you better do something now, if you don't want full on diabetes". So, I did. Tried standard dieting and lost maybe 15 lbs. then it leveled out. No matter how hard I exercised or dieted. Ran into an old friend who lost 50 lbs on Keto. Decided to give it a try. I Didn't consult my Dr. for his approval. I just followed what Dr Berry had as advise on his channel and I also lost 50+ lbs. By the time I went back to see my Dr., he walked into the exam room shaking his head laughing while looking at my chart. "Who the hell am I to argue with your success" ? was his only real reply. Still doing Keto now.

[@fastingcoach9711]

Thank you both so much For writing sich tremendous Life davongetragen Books!!

[@kwakaman555]

Started keto in late 2016 and the amazing benefits totally unmasked the medical/ nutritional so-called experts. Love carnivore too but only for 1 - 2 weeks at a time. Only downside in the past 4 years is that none of my friends believe me haha...

[@YouTuber-ep5xx]

I got a new primary care physician at Mayo 1.5 years ago. She's morbidly obese, in her late 30s. Been working on her. She knows I went low-carb 2.5 years ago following heart attack. I won't shut up about low-carbs, trigs/HDL, A1C, hyperinsulinemia, etc. Saw her last month, and she's lost weight. Said she read Jason Fung's book! She's been coy about low carb, like anyone at the big institution Mayo, but I'm quite sure she's gone low carb. In other words, no sugars, grains, veg oils, just real food, HIGH FAT!

[@pilgrimlady8196]

You will be rewarded! Speaking up to her has most likely saved her life, along with Dr. Jason Fung. 👏👏👏

[@murrayobrien9192]

Absolutely awesome to see Gary Taubes! I read Good Calories Bad Calories when it came out and it changed my whole philosophy. I had already learned about low carb mainly from Art DeVany but Gary taught about how very poorly framed science can get into public policy with very little scrutiny. It's been the most influential book I have ever read.

[@murrayobrien9192]

Great looking glasses BTW. Ronsir by Shuron. I'm an optician in Australia and love that iconic brand!

[@robinenochs1320]

Nicotinic Acid raises HDL, Lowers LDL (IME, 500mg NA+ALA+melatonin) nightly for 3 months dropped my LDL 100pts and raised my already good HDL (on keto)

[@georgeyoung1810]

You guys are awesome! I just came here from listening to Gary on The Drive with Peter Attia. Keep it up, you are changing lives

[@anitalehr4151]

Taubes is definitely a good writer! Berry is the talker! Thank you both!

[@annewebster4919]

I love the ketogenic way of eating go keep healthy. Thanku Dr Berry & Mr Taub. I have only bn doing keto 4 mths and wud luv to be a participant in keto research. At 63yo I was almost a diabetic with arthritis. Neither is a problem now. Thank God for keto :)

[@jennygibbons1258]

Such a sensible, balanced discussion. Thanks.

[@moaink99]

Perfect timing! Ironically I just finished A Case For Keto earlier today! Great book!

[@bobmoxley4539]

Listening from Fountain Hills AZ. I consider Dr Berry one of my go to Doctors👍Keto adjusted my weight from 192 to 160 (12 months)

[@annabanana7752]

Gary Taubes - WHY WE GET FAT! A game changer for many of us!

[@jenbartolome9523]

HELLO DOC.... WATCHING FROM PHILIPPINES....THANKS FOR AN EXCELLENT DISCUSSION....GOD BLESS ALWAYS!!! 👍👍👍

[@almudenarioshermida470]

I love listening to you, you are incredible in each video I learn new things.Greetings from Spain, sometimes I find it hard to read your books in English, I wish they were in Spanish too, but little by little I get to understand the information. My health problem is inflammation of the scalp such as dermatitis and also delicateintestine ... I have been eating low in carbohydrates, low in oxalates, little fruit 1 piece a day, without legumes, without nuts, without dairy, without grains, low in red meat, very few eggs, taking probiotics but also low in fat only oil ofextra virgin olive, sunbathing every day, yoga ...chronic dermatitis almost negligible but my ferritin also dropped a lot, my cholesterol, my uric acid obviously low. The problem is that when I eliminate all the fruits and lower the carbohydrates even more and I add saturated fat and more protein and more eggs and more red meat, the dermatitis worsens, although I feel more energetic and stronger. What is the problem that I can do to achieve balance and why dermatitis produces more protein and animal fat if it is the most real food. I have spent years analyzing and experimenting but I do not get the absolute prize. doctor ken berry everything you explain makes sense maybe my intestine is not yet ready to assimilate such amount of fats and proteins should go little by little ...?I don't understand, it's a bit frustrating

[@velikijoxotnik]

Great interview/talk! On my FB Page, I've been blogging about my lifestyle change, since changing to keto. I think that quite a few of my friends are re-thinking the stupid American high-carb diet. We're having good (very civil) discussions, at the very least. Keep up the fight!

[@cw1626]

This is a great interview. I agree. We may need to adjust at different times to break the stalls. Really enjoyed this.

[@Pjohal100]

Read garys nyt artivke july 7 2002, dropped 45 lbs in 6 weeks. Mr taubes changed my life. Calgary Canada

[@MegaHelloKitty4]

"It spreads because it works".. I can't RELATE more!! Like 2+ months ago i found you/your channel, since then i've been trying to implement a KETO/carnivore diet. The more i practice this lifestyle, the more i notice.. I have been living in a carbohydrated world since i was born!! (1996) Bread for breakfast (and people vouche for "not too much spread", i.e, peanut butter, chocolate paste, "Hagelslag" (im dutch), i dont eat butter but most peolpe i know butter their bread with Margarine or "Halvarine", the so called Diet Soda amongst the butters, and still add the above mentioned toppings, then again, bread for lunch and usually potatos for dinner, or Pasta cuz it's easily made and always...a dessert... These are just the carbohydrates i noticed. And these combine 65-70%, might even say 75-80% of daily consumption in my circle. Ofcourse there are many foods, like meats and dark greens we do consume, the necassary foods to keep us thinking we're living the healthy life,.. but once i started following you, they don't amount much to the carbohydrate dominate diet my circle consumes. Bless you and Bless anyone finding your channel

[@roncook9361]

Mostly KETO for 2 1/2 years. 235 to 203. Up form my lowest 193. Here in the Philippines. We have an organic farm. Periodic over carbohydrates from our own papaya mango and banana production. Quit my medications for blood pressure and cholesterol. Numbers on recent tests are all good.

[@laneyno8]

Went to my heart dr last week and he wants me to do the “plant based “ diet. My blood pressure was 129/52, heart rate 62, and cholesterol was almost 300! And that’s where the problem is for him. I have been doing keto/low carb for 3 years, lost 60 lbs and have stalled for 2 years on weight loss. I also have psoriatic arthritis that some foods make worse. I am worried about my heart health after visiting him! He also follows Esslestyns plant based diet and wants me to try it for 2 weeks. I am really struggling on what to do. There is SO much conflicting info out there a person doesn’t know who to trust. I know I feel pretty good, and some days are pain free, when I eat more of the carnivore side of the spectrum. But, I can’t physically see my heart and any complications that may be happening. I have rewatched some of your videos Dr Barry to find info directly about cholesterol and heart health but can’t find any specifically. There are tidbits here and there, but not whole episodes on the matter. I have eaten plant based for 2 days and my hands are so inflamed I can’t hardly close them, gained 2 pounds, and feel lousy! Am definitely considering buying both books mentioned here, as well as Mr Lutwig’s book for myself and then sharing with my heart dr… I am a 62 year old female, that has 6 brothers whom have had heart bypass surgeries, and I don’t want that same fate! I’m just trying to stay alive here and not go under that same knife! I just want to be armed with scientific info that is accurate for myself.

[@JLH63]

you could look at videos about heart health of Ivor Cummins , the fat emperor

[@laneyno8]

@@JLH63 thank you. I will look at that.

[@JLH63]

@@laneyno8 'diet doctor' has lists of keto friendly doctors, and wonderfull videos. You tube videos of Eric Westman were very helpful for me with stalls and explains very good what to eat so you do not make mistakes . Dr Nadir Ali also explains heart problems great, he is a cardiologist...wish you all the best

[@laneyno8]

@@JLH63 thank you so much for the information 🥰

[@kathyshanks]

Grateful to you both💐 Palm Harbor, Florida

[@ACooperNorthwoodsWriter]

Gained 20 pounds in about 2 months on hard core McDougall diet. Ouch! Two months on low carb and I'm down about 16 pounds so far. Tells me my body is more than happy to pack on the pounds - and fast - when I feed it carbs. Pretty simple, really. 😊

[@rhondam.3557]

Absolutely brilliant discussion, thanks so much for this video!

[@rickrich7325]

Most Drs only know their field, these two are Great! It reminds me of a relative that’s an immune system medicine and they are terrified of all the V shots and what’s going to happen to the people over the next few years. And most Drs are just going along with it, kind of like how most Drs are against keto because they aren’t real smart in anything but their field and I kind of question that.

[@lauramacstar9277]

God keeps dealing us aces! well friends um.... exactly! bravo Gary Taubes & Dr Berry!!!!!!

[@lorifuller5921]

Thank you from Northwest Wisconsin! You two are so knowledgeable and helpful!

[@Troy-Moses]

Dr. Ken... Thanks for these series of high quality interviews. Recently I saw one of your videos against dairy -- particularly milk -- where you correctly highlighted the disproportionately large number of adults suffering from lactose intolerance. I happen to not have that problem, albeit being a Black Jamaican. My question is, How do fermented milk foods such as kefir play a role in the HFLC method? as I particularly enjoy it with dinner... All my findings on lactose intolerance implicates pasteurised milk; but it doesn't exist with raw milk or kefir. After all, our ancestors did drink both.

[@cccampa4480]

Two legends, yes! Thank you for this video, brilliant stuff 👏

[@deborawarren1913]

Arkansas here... thank you!

[@bkc74445]

Watching from Louisiana, USA

[@dannebonaparte2213]

Twitter doesn't have to be a waste of time. While there is crushing censorship on many topics, there are still worthwhile updates and discussions from health/nutrition persons, professional and amateur (control group, haha!) Not only that, even though a huge number of my former huge-account tweeting persons have been de-platformed and gone other places, there are many intelligent information seekers and sharers still connecting on twitter. No doubt it can been a time-sucking rabbit hole, but I continue to regard twitter as having value for those who can be somewhat mindful of their time. Huge thanks to both pioneers for this presentation.

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

I wouldn’t know. I won’t make Twitter and Facebook a dime by joining them.

[@pilgrimlady8196]

Pffft to twitter and Facebook. Censoring is their MO. KZbin is headed there also.

[@cabbking]

there is a pathway to support this diet research: insurance companies and their charities. This industry stands to gain in a very big way if the human diet were no longer a black box driven by Madison Avenue and the mega farms.

[@JYAN2852]

You would think so. But nope. I work for one of the big national health ins companies and I can tell you that ins comps are in bed with big pharma. They have ludicrous contracts together to ensure that both parties maximize profits

[@stephwessel7346]

@@JYAN2852 that’s so sad! I was hopeful for this path, too!

[@thehorseyourodeinon2041]

@@JYAN2852 Very sad - and frustrating. :-(

[@chays2901]

Thank you both - this has been so inspiring - and I will be sure to share with my diabetic sibs

[@sophiagreen3093]

I did Atkins back in the 90s stuck with it for 20 years fell off the wagon bought a smoothie maker put on a lot of belly fat. I've been on carnivore for 17:days belly fat greatly reduced family and friends say they haven't seen me this thin before they think I'm killing myself by not eating fruit and vegetables and bread. They said that when I started Atkins too. I'm not talking to them anymore about my diet they're just panicking. I'm not killing myself now I was with the fruit smoothies and grains.