Each time it's ended on the bad terms

Each time it's ended on the bad terms #tyrionlannister #daenerystargaryen #deadstark#joffery#daenerystargaryen #youtubeshorts #gameofthronesedit

[@greyd.99xsome]

They killed thousands of drunken and unarmed Stark soldiers who thought they were celebrating with allies. Not only a dozen...

[@OublietteTight]

Easy to forget that. Thank you.

[@somethingelseidk1035]

And some of the rest joined stannis(I think) to help against the lannisters.

[@johnkonig865]

@@somethingelseidk1035Uhm, no?

[@user-hg3iv5hy3s]

I was coming to say the same thing

[@shariarmontasir3569]

@@johnkonig865 in books

[@thetickrules]

He broke the ancient laws of hospitality, now every offer of peace from a lannister will be doubted.

[@anthonygreen127]

Yet folks continued to trust them :/

[@KeyUploads]

Ikr

[@elliotchinneryhinks8554]

Are you seriously stupid enough to question Tywin lannister...

[@nickthephoenix8494]

Except, like Tyrion said earlier in this scene, the blame goes to the Boltons and Freys. On paper, the Lannisters had nothing to do with the Red Wedding.

[@elliotchinneryhinks8554]

You're a fool if you think Tywin would put his name in such an act, the Boltons take both the credit and the blame..

[@roriestill6231]

This foreshadowed how Tywin would die. Vulnerable and physically unarmed.

[@brettmcclure241]

Damn.... thats a good point! Nice catch.

[@asimhussain8716]

Lol no, this is not foreshadowing...

[@55pm]

But he's almost always unarmed and vulnerable? Didn't he say that much to oberyn when they were alone?

[@jonsweeney4347]

To answer Tywin's question, throwing guest right out the window basically makes peace talks impossible, since without a guarantee of safety, any invitation to peace could be a trap. Tywin is well aware of this, and is quite literally banking on "it doesnt count as a war crime if everyone who thinks its a war crime is either dead or cant do anything about it."

[@lyamainu]

Thank you! Yes it seems pragmatic the way he frames it - a few men dead instead of thousands - but there are REASONS that these rules exist, because society will break down without them.

[@jakemccarroll9414]

Robb didn’t honour his marriage vow so why should House Frey honour guest right?

[@genovaz]

@@jakemccarroll9414 The guest right wasn't just an agreement between men. It was a covenant with the old gods. Catlyn reminds robb to invoke the guest right before entering the twins after breaking his vow not because she thinks Walder Frey is an honorable man, but because shes hoping he's at least superstitious enough to not risk divine wrath upon his house.

[@morganW2012]

Or Walter Frey and joffery take the blame

[@OublietteTight]

Well put.

[@rabindrashukla-ib9uf]

Charles dance is a superb actor.

[@user-hg3iv5hy3s]

He was soooooooo perfect for this role!!!!! I know there are book readers who don’t agree based on the book description but I don’t care what he doesn’t resemble by physical features. He is the absolute best choice in manner

[@randallflagg6271]

Utterly fantastic

[@loucypherdamorningstar]

Would really like to see him in a scene with the father vampire from underworld

[@OublietteTight]

Ironic... Tywin is so invested in legacy. Guessing... in decades to come, he will be "the guy who was shot while sh*ting by his short son"

[@lucasbispodossantos5074]

And broken the guest rights, has incest children, bedded a whire before dead making him a hypocrite, supported rape, paid war criminals, the list goes on. Truth is that Tywin was blinded by his emotions as much as everyone was blinded by ignorance, he himself broken his rule, acted as a fool, cared abou the opinion of the sheep and received what he deserved, a humiliating death and a joke of a legacy

[@Nyika1203]

Logacy.

[@jouzu2477]

You go to war with the expectation of the possibility of dying. You go to a wedding with no expectations of dying

[@rolandfeussner1892]

*Rule does not apply to dothraki weddings

[@Ares-hi2hw]

​@@rolandfeussner1892and what's make you think they are one of them

[@ukaszg1358]

So your expectations should keep you safe?

[@bigisrick]

Lol your family weddings must be pretty boring

[@speedosam5221]

At my first wedding everyone was packing

[@moneytalks1219]

Because men expect to die in battle. Its the risk of going to war. Men do not expect to die at dinner during peace talks... No one will EVER be willing to sit down and discuss peace with the Freys or lannisters again.

[@pemithmithsara7632]

And that’s exactly what Blackfish did

[@donaldpaluga]

Just the Lannisters Because The North Remembered, and Winter came for House Frey

[@Exisist5151]

@@evangelostse2477 Irregardless isn’t a word you should use! It’s in the dictionary but it’s only there because people have continuously been using the wrong word. You can either say “regardless” or “irrespective” if you want to sound smarter. They eventually got merged into a word that means the opposite of its roots.

[@saintjuice11]

Yup never again because they are all dead.

[@roderickclerk5904]

@@pemithmithsara7632the blackfish was already getting sieged and was essentially behind his own walls when he talked with Jamie

[@ajeetchoudhary6645]

If tywins plans worked Jeoffery would rule crownsland Tommon would rule stormsland Jamie would rule western land Tyrions son would rule the north Cersie child with loras would rule reach Marcella children with prince of dorn would rule the dorn And riverland were already tywins bitch that leaves vale only reason that would be saved because they were neutral

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

Tywin also married several of his lesser family members to the Freys, who were the main power in the Riverlands at that point

[@ajeetchoudhary6645]

@@zinkheroofyoutube8004 like i said already his bitch

[@dongeronimoI]

Dude trained on crusader kings

[@subratanandy2142]

Except, none of it worked ...

[@bnbnism]

Remember as well tyrion won the vale and gave it to the tribesmen so it'd be held by them but under the thumb of the Lannisters

[@ThinkingWoman30]

It’s just so funny because it’s shows that Tywin couldn’t beat Robb so the only way to win was by having him his men, his mother and his pregnant wife murdered at the dinner table while all completely unarmed. Cowardly move. Tywin has ruined peace treaties for everyone

[@brianmerritt5410]

Though he had Roose and Frey do it for him, removing himself from direct involvement and thus he can have deniability.

[@clashofclanscoc1657]

​@@brianmerritt5410 bro literally ordered for the Lannister theme song to be played before the murders 😭

[@WayneMercy]

Not really though. Lannisters already aligned with the Tyrell’s at this point. There was no chance they were losing to Robb. If anything the red wedding was stupid because they really didn’t even need to do it lol. This is especially true in the books, where Robbs plan after the wedding was just to retreat back to winterfell with his tail tucked between his legs.

[@SebAnders]

And theres nobody left alive to know that​@clashofclanscoc1657

[@crylec6534]

Smart move, but a long term investment it’ll make Tywin further distrusted and dangerous enough to attack.

[@florians9949]

Tywin biggest mistake was not understanding Tyrion’s warning. When he said the North won’t forget he meant that they will get there payback at the Lannister the first chance they get.

[@CubeInspector]

Their*

[@stomp21]

Idiot, that's obvious. What else could he have meant?

[@strategicsage7694]

I think he understood and just didn't care. He thought he was good enough at scheming and had enough power to beat any attempt at revenge they might attempt.

[@pompeythegreat297]

Lol 96 people agreed with this incorrect stance. Tywin was banking on them being too afraid to retaliate.

[@TV-ge3uj]

@@pompeythegreat297 What he doesn't understand about his super-important legacy is that people are afraid of *him* , not of House Lannister. The moment he is in the grave his house will follow him there.

[@joshuadavidson8793]

Tywin failed to realize that Jon, Sansa and Arya were still around. Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe.

[@TheEnergybeam]

Jon was at the Wall, forbidden to take part in Westero’s war. Arya hadn’t been seen since Ned’s death and was presumed dead. And Sansa was a meek girl, practically a hostage of house Lannister. So he was perfectly okay in assuming none of them would try to take revenge

[@AliComputering]

yeah, Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe. but lannisters are Lion! not sheep

[@Phoenix.219]

​@@AliComputeringyeahh he left two wolves and 1 dragon alive and we didn't know what that combo means but everyone learnt that from this example

[@Phoenix.219]

​@@TheEnergybeampresumption fails most if the times. And didn't he learn from the history of kingdoms that there us no such thing as meek among rulers and there have been examples of so called meek causing the Dance of Dragons. You might not call Alicent meek but what was she before wedding in front of Rhaneyra and Rhaneyra was in their history lesson so how did they not know

[@appa609]

Bran and Rickon too Only Ned and Robb were dead at this point.

[@John_Smith76]

Tywin is a fool to trust House Bolton to return the wardenship to the Starks willingly. Roose Bolton isn't stupid and I bet he knows that any child of Sansa would be taught to hate the Freys, Greyjoys and Boltons.

[@crylec6534]

Here’s my guess of Tywin’s plans: Roose in those times will have to find strong enough allies to back him in the North. But Stark blood is valuable and most Northerners knew peace with Starks than Boltons. Not to mention eventually he’d be murdered by Ramsey, he’s too unhinged to work in politics and eventually any ally Roose established will be burned. Tywin would have Tyrion and Sansa roll into the North with their son along with a Lannister army and king’s own ensemble. Proclaim to reestablish peace with a Stark as warden of the North.

[@jarjarbelliii5054]

Tywin doesn’t trust the Boltons and with might makes right he hopes to scare Boltons into giving the wardenship to Sansa and Tyrion.

[@crylec6534]

@@jarjarbelliii5054 It’s not even up to them. If Sansa, Ned’s own daughter left carrying her son to the North to establish peace. The North will take it at a heart beat.

[@ManishRawat-qz4nd]

He guaranteed that conceited crimes become the norm. Thus ensuring death like joffrey are not considered ghastly. So in essence he ensured grandson death by poison. If a guest can be killed by the host by conceit, then the host can be killed by the guest as well.

[@HienTran-ch7or]

“Rules… without them we live with the animals” - Winston Scott - John Wick

[@flydutchmen1754]

Lol, this is why exactly we live with animals, because man made rules will never work.

[@Rajratnaukey007]

​@@flydutchmen1754 duh doesn't matter don't you know we too come in category of "animal life form" we are too animals 😂

[@flydutchmen1754]

@@Rajratnaukey007 kid, before replying try to understand, I know we are animal life form, but what I'm saying, since no man is an angel,no man is fit to rule, that simple. Not even the people U call Prophets.

[@Rajratnaukey007]

@@flydutchmen1754 definitely not prophets but "no man is an angel so no man is fit to rule " is absolutely idiotic logic looks like you are the kid

[@flydutchmen1754]

@@Rajratnaukey007 lol, so U like to be a slave, and ruled? I'm offering you complete freedom,and still you want slavery? That just tells you who's the kid and who's the adult here

[@paulpoumet773]

Did he really think that Lord Bolton would give-up being Warden of the North for Sansa's son after having tasted a bite of more power and influence? Did Tywin really thought that the Northern nobility would stand calmly united behind the Bolton and then calmly unitedly swift for Sansa's Lannister son?

[@lukedeakin7124]

I mean, if Sansa, Tyrion and their son decided to lead a rebellion, sure the North would unite for that!

[@paulpoumet773]

@@lukedeakin7124 Which is clearly not Tywin's plan. Moreover there will clearly be a part of the North behind the Bolton.

[@Santoro126]

This is something I never understood, like oh ok I just took all of that risk for nothing and now I just go back to the same position. Walder Frey at least got to be the Lord Paramount of the Riverlands but Roose would just temporarily be for the North. Doesn’t make much sense.

[@fredrikdahlin7869]

@@Santoro126Tywin would have disposed of Bolton once he was of no more use.

[@IAMrajasekhar1999]

Still unjustified... I am on the stark side.

[@jameshw9751]

Tywin wasn’t so naive to believe that there weren’t major drawbacks to his actions, but he weighed the options and chose the path that wouldn’t result in more losses for his army. I wonder if he actually believed Roose Bolton would remain loyal enough to abdicate the Wardenship.

[@HashimThaDream]

I wonder how Tywin would react to seeing how his servant girl took vengeance on house Frey

[@jhart3983]

In the book ASOIAF, Robb's direwolf, Grey Wind, was quite vocal while en route to the wedding. As they came closer to the town and were entering, Grey Wind was loudly whining and protesting going in, and to a point where he became aggressive. Robb kept shushing Grey Wind and agreed to him being caged due to his behaviour. People often remark on Robbs mistake in not keeping his promise to marry the Frey daughter and then naively thinking he could go there and all be well. The other mistake Robb made was not listening to his direwolf whose primary focus is Robb's safety and wellbeing. If Robb gave his head a shake and paid attention to Grey Wind, and just took a few minutes to communicate with him, his life could have been saved. Robb needed to recalls how Bran's direwolf stayed close to him after the terrible fall and saved him from an assassin. Listen to your dog! Don't be so ready to tell your dog to stop barking, especially at night.

[@OublietteTight]

Well put. I often watch shows like Forensic Files. Very rarely are attacks committed when a faithful dog is there. A faithful wolf is a whole nother level of protection.

[@komi-creative]

We were robbed of the North battling it out with the South and taking out the Lannisters once and for all...

[@DementedDarkness546]

Just cause something is efficient doesn't mean it's right.

[@brandonhamilton833]

Daddy Lanister was RUTHLESS but he always knew how to win, even on the losing side.

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

No he didn't. He loses. The lannisters are destroyed by his incompetence. He only had one solution to any problem. Be the biggest monster. To the point even his kids hated him.

[@umarhossain2701]

​@@NeiasaurusCreations exactly... He was not smart nor brave

[@Hack_Neuron_To_DSA]

No you r wrong . He was a coward and clever. He chooses rare fights when winning are sure. Which means he never fought, just claimed victory when it was sure

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

@@Hack_Neuron_To_DSA where did he ever do anything clever? All I see is a dude who pushes people past the breaking point by acting horribly and out of line. Than commits atrocities for them being unhappy with him. Nothing he does is particularly clever. And it always bites him in the ass later. For example Tyrion was despite my issues with him the lannister who had genuine potential. And Tywin instead of accepting him or investing in him treats him like garbage. Including stripping him of power and refusing any reward for himself saving kingslanding and being a good hand. Predictably causing his own humiliating death. Another example is how he deals with the starks. After provoking a war and losing the only way for him to win is treachery. Which in the short term works. But long term insures no lannister will ever be safe in the north and that the relation of south and north is at its lowest point. Rebellions will forever be a constant now. Beheading Ned was the absolute worst move and Tywin had it happen because he couldn't even control his grandson. So nah nothing clever here. At most it's a low cunning like a wolf or something. Not actual intelligence or clever by human standards.

[@isailias8604]

@@NeiasaurusCreations and you are who again?

[@ryenpacino9793]

“Joffrey, when your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet. Elsewise no man will ever bend the knee to you.” -Tywin Lannister[1] Tywin is such a hypocrite it’s actually crazy

[@fridakahlo4225]

Tywin is a mad dog at times and he has a natural talent to hide it. He just couldn't handle the truth that Robb, a very young Stark boy was able to make a fool out of Lannisters. Eventhough Tywin had the upper hand when he made alliance with House Tyrell, he still wanted to annihilate Robb and his royal men in the most shocking way, out of spite. In a tactical sense, his action made no sense and even made it harder for him to control north. Northeners would never accept a Lannister baby as their king, even if it is Sansa's baby. They would rather follow Jon or search for other Stark children (Arya, Brand, Rickon). The same unreasonable cruelty comes to play when Tyrion had her most beloved wife. He could easily banish her or have her killed. Instead, well.... We know what he did😢 Seperating them was not enough for Tywin. He also wanted to break his son's spirit because how dare he can show any sign of independent decision making. It was brutal and unnecessary. And the most obvious act of him, being a mad dog under the disguise of 'the cunning man who calculates every step' is how he deals with the aftermath of Tyrion's trial. The imp that he hates the most is completely out of the picture. Tyrion was done. He was finally under his total control. Yet he had such a vile hatred that he proceed to sleep with 'the whore' which Tyrion deeply cared for. Man, this kind of creepiness is from another world. Like how f*cked you had to be in the head to do such a thing. What kind of sick joy you had from sleeping with your son's lover. My point is, yes, Tywin is a very calculated, cunning man. He likes to point out that whatever he does, he does for his family name. But some of his acts are not driven by the pure motivation of protecting his family. He also has a vile, hateful, sadistic side that he likes to satisfy eventhough in the long run, it would harm his plans.

[@dimensionzone8048]

​@@fridakahlo4225100% correct. All factual

[@TV-ge3uj]

Except the North did *not* go to their knees. In fact, at least in the show, Robb planned to march on Casterly Rock (which would never have worked). The plan itself was still foolish and prepared the ground for the downfall of House Lannister, but there was no hypocrisy.

[@RobertWF42]

Charles Dance's acting completely draws you in. Brilliant!

[@OKTAPHMFAA]

Do you think the realm knew Tywin was as cowardly is he is inept at defeating Robb? What he did openly exposed that Tywin couldn’t win traditionally. He couldn’t outthink Robb, he couldn’t defeat him in battle or strategically. Robb may have died but he exposed Tywin for who he is. Or he would’ve done if people noticed.

[@aleahboone4323]

Like he said when he spoke to Tyrion and Cersi......It's a plot, not for everyone's knowledge. And by the time it's realized, too late because he was Joffrey's hand, so, it was already decreed. That's why Sansa had to marry Tyrion and Cersi was supposed to marry Loras. I love these clips.

[@whatsmandisaying]

Joffrey DID say to Tywin that he “hid under the rock” while his “father” won the real war against Rhaegar. Tywin’s face, and the face of everyone at the small counsels table was SHOOKETH! Because it’s absolutely true, Joffrey just didn’t give a flying duck, and exposed him for what he is. Smart, yes. But a warrior, no.

[@uberpwner48]

They did. From the Riverlands(S4) to Braavos(S6), they knew of that heinous BS.

[@mrs.h.2597]

The North Remembers Sugar! Winter came for House everybody !!! 😂😂👏🏽👏🏽

[@Jampolo_OG]

Tywin grossly underestimates how much his enemies hate him, and how much they're willing to suffer in order to get payback

[@alisterfolson]

"Thousands died while partying." All's fair in love and war

[@napalmbhoji]

Tywin dying shitting felt a little nice even with all the other shit going on I remember

[@laxstrat]

That look Tyrion makes when Tywin tells him to make a song is so funny, "hmm, they'd love that one"

[@ajaykumar-gj8qb]

The north has waged wars more than a dozen times on the south and have won fully or partially but at least restored balance as seen in the lores in the seven kingdoms Tywin may be a good strategist and warrior but the saying history repeats itself isn’t just based on tales and as the show ends Lannisters are wiped out and the starks live within those winterfell walls thus signifying that he too is human and is prone to make mistakes

[@saintjuice11]

All of the Stark men are dead. He dismissed Arya and Sansa. The deadliest of the Stark children

[@DK-Coffee]

I would have preferred he and Sansa had lived an actual marriage . They both knew real trauma and loss.

[@lyamainu]

They’re both still alive at the end of the show, so there’s still time! Now that she’s not a child anymore.

[@DK-Coffee]

@@lyamainu lived an actual marriage means lived as husband and wife.

[@motionsa3259]

Tywin knew how to play the game of thrones

[@dimensionzone8048]

Not even 😂😂

[@fredrikdahlin7869]

If he had been nicer to Tyrion I might have agreed with you

[@logankirchhof6148]

I wanna say that the Starks made the greatest comeback in all of Game of Thrones. Not only that but what the Lannisters did to the unarmed Starks, the Starks and Targaryens did to the armed and ready Lannisters.

[@TV-ge3uj]

the Starks and Targaryens *and their dragons* . If Tywin had even a single dragon at his disposal (flying dragons, of course), the war would have been over in a few days.

[@Nickodemus0025]

One of my top favorite cast choices in GOT. Charles Dance absolutely killed that role and was perfect for Tywin. He stole the stage every time he had a scene.

[@adamsunderland0823]

I want something between the books and the show. The best of both.

[@ams1200]

Until your son by Sansa comes of age. Lets talk about it.

[@Hennybear600]

Tywin is so dope it’s why readers love him. He’s cold, calculated and strong. A born leader which is why he’s called the king with no crown cuz truthfully he controlled the 7 kingdoms. READ THE BOOK PEOPLE!!!! He’s much more

[@jacobfisher1427]

The north remembers

[@Peterminator-nj3od]

The West makes sure they do

[@scripted_valor]

they both had that "Wait that's a good idea" moment.

[@lacolem1]

Tywin just basically said “South syyyde!” in the classiest manner ever

[@Visenyaaa]

“The north remembers”

[@petero2693]

2 fine actors

[@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif]

It's amazing that the other great houses didn't put their petty squabbles aside, raise their armies, march on the twins and burn it down. Guest right is a very serious thing in westeros

[@marysmith-ps7uj]

The North Remembers. The Stark WOMEN will prevail, dude!

[@ayax3015]

lannister women are hotter

[@RealAryanGupta]

​@@ayax3015 with that amount of incest, i doubt that's a possibility.

[@JoSheperd]

Sure buddy

[@scottmatheson3346]

​​@@ayax3015 much hotter, once Drogon gets done with 'em. Indeed, you could call 'em smoking hot.

[@ayax3015]

@@scottmatheson3346 XD, then which family has the hottest women, dont tell me the targaryen family cuz they are all death

[@KICKBOXER27]

Tywin misinterpreted was Tyrion said he says: "The Northerners WILL NEVER Forget." The North Remembers.....ALWAYS!

[@frightbat208]

Tywin was a true C, andTyrion knew it. Revenge is sweet.

[@SephonDK]

What Tywin doesn't realize is that acts like this don't secure peace at all. He's interesting as a character because as commanding and terrifying he is, he has no conception of how to manage things without wiping people out. The moment he's dead, everyone and their mom will be prepared to retaliate. As what happened. And as happened in history. This never fucking works. Rage will persist for generations.

[@alexmccleod243]

What made Tywin think the the Boltons would have just given up the North of Tyron had a son.

[@wades9327]

Tywin is like BlackRock. Contain your argument as much as is within their realm of human justification.

[@lukewebley4940]

The North Remembers...

[@archninjaa7507]

So Jons wandering around the Wall like a homeless person

[@radicalmonarchist8354]

How you win is very important politically, that’s a fact that’s not often acknowledged. By doing this he sets the precedent of the action and calls the law of hospitality present in damn near most cultures into question. He opened a can of worms.

[@scottmatheson3346]

This isn't 'Nam, Tywin, there are rules.

[@dariocarate1505]

Well The North actually forgot about the RW at the end of the series

[@robinjameson4261]

there's a problem with ruling by fair. it is a problem wired deep within humanity. the problem is this is a tight rope walk if you do not do any enough fear then people will become emboldened and will rebel against you. if you do too much then they will cease to have any trace of Hope and will believe that there is no way that they will not die and as such a switch will flip in their mind and they will do absolutely anything even giving up their own life to make sure they take you down with them.

[@redwolfgamevideo]

Except of course he didn’t just kill a dozen at dinner, he also killed a few thousand regular soldiers outside the castle.

[@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies]

The North Remembers. Good.

[@morganW2012]

If only his kids would of listened lol

[@Traye76]

It's more noble because you don't have to lie about one of them.

[@MarkAnthony-vn7er]

So it's safe to say we know how he beat the One rich family trying to climb that last step Tywin not the best battle strategiest but he didn't knows how to make power moves and that's has always advanced him telling advantage of the opportunity.

[@khaledking5408]

Emhyr Var emris showing the northern rodanians who's boss

[@riccardomarinaro3061]

“To defend the lannisters to defend my blood!” “…well… not considering you, cos you’re my son but… i never liked you

[@TV-ge3uj]

This war *started* because Tywin defended Tyrion.

[@adrianmunoz7646]

Wow! I must’ve completely been sidetracked when Tywin declared that Tyrion’s son by Sansa would be installed as Warden of the North, effectively dismissing and demoting Roose Bolton and his house. And i remember Roose Bolton having a conversation with Ramsay about how they shouldn’t be so complacent with their position and current standing by saying something along the lines of: “how would we fare against a prepared Lannister host.” Roose Bolton might have had designs on continuing the war against the Lannisters, probably would’ve used the dead Starks as a rallying cry to unite the Northerners, however reluctantly they would’ve been. Would sure be an interesting arc if Roose had been kept alive.

[@SoulJAHJustICE609]

He didn't say that to the Xenomorph.

[@WritingWithMilesKhoury]

The greatness in Tywin’s character is that from his point of view, his actions are completely justified. He did what he did to protect the family and end the war, a true ends justifying the means mindset

[@TV-ge3uj]

And what was the end for House Lannister?

[@Carolinafan85]

Sansa Stark rules the north , and Brendan Stark rules the south , all the lannisters are dead , Tywin lost

[@vger9186]

When you realize the Lannisters are Hamas and the Starks are Israelis.

[@louiselliott1]

what a fucking stupid comparison

[@bruceconan8373]

this right here made it OK for tyrion to kill his father on the privy oh the irony

[@johndeer8489]

Did thisnguybever notice hisnoff springs didnt seem to care about their family legacy much

[@elliotchinneryhinks8554]

Some people on here are literally showing how stupid people are, theres people actually criticising Tywin lannister, the most ruthless cunning player in the game, seriously some people who are questioning his methods would last 5 minutes in GOT

[@darthcaedus9130]

Bc of guest right?

[@MrKardany]

Tywin is simply America, justifying dropping two bombs that ended the war.. 😂😂

[@marypoppins989]

In the end Tywin won, he wasnt the most noble men but he was the smartest. Ned Stark was the most Noble and because of him the entire stark house was going to die. Robb took after his father not in nobility but in foolishness. Tywin lost because he never could look past Tyrions height and would have probably won the game of thrones.

[@TV-ge3uj]

Except he didn't win, especially by his own standards. He makes it clear that he wants House Lannister on top in a hundred years, but by his own actions House Lannister will almost certainly be wiped out long before that.

[@nostalgic90s54]

North remembers

[@climax050]

It just occurred to me that even though Tyrion could very well be lord of the north via marriage to Sansa, Tywin doesn’t even consider it nor offer it. He literally bypasses his own son for what would be his grandson.

[@leonardmeiner9015]

Honestly, out of strategic point of view, tywin was a hell of good men.

[@susanjennings4113]

Tywin was wrong not all the Stark men were dead!

[@kathyreynolds2077]

He is wrong about one thing women can kill to

[@WOLFFMAAN8714]

Phuk da south

[@rhelyputra4680]

Nah unfortunately in this show the northerners forget

[@jamesquinn6662]

Tywin is legit the most overrated character in the shower. Terrible ruler, terrible tactician, terrible commander, terrible strategist. Literal plot armour-thr character. It's a smooth brain take that he's anything other than lucky

[@yourenviousenemy]

Israel Lannister

[@davidhoward4715]

Seek help. Soon.

[@uberpwner48]

Not even close.

[@Gallalad1]

I mean Tywin had a point. A shorter war is a less bloody one. Decapatsimg the enemy leadership will crush many armies especially those of nobles

[@lukedeakin7124]

Except 1. thousand of Stark soldiers still died and 2. This basically means the North will never agree to any sort of peace talks, as they can't be sure whether or not they'd be safe

[@Peterminator-nj3od]

@@lukedeakin7124Don’t really need peace talks when your destroy their bloodline , he did the same to Tarblecks And Reynes

[@lukedeakin7124]

@@Peterminator-nj3od sure, but the plan is to literally replace Rob with the child of Sansa(who's family was massacred at the wedding) and Tyrion(who he can't keep from insulting). The North would inevitably rise up against them at some point and their only hope is that the North doesn't decide to pull their own Red Wedding on the Lannisters. Also, it's probably just not a good idea to make it clear that you have no problem with killing a king at a wedding considering his grandson is a king.

[@scottmatheson3346]

​@@Peterminator-nj3odYou need peace talks with everybody else

[@TheUndyingCrystal]

​@Peterminator-nj3od The Tarbecks and Reynes were nobodies. Has-beens sinking into the mud. The Starks are a great house surrounded by bannermen feverishly loyal to them, more so than any southern lord could ever hope to be (perhaps besides House Tarly). Tywin destroyed them. For now. But all he did was create a precedent and a grudge. Be it ten years or a hundred, the North would remember what the Lannisters did and would take revenge. Tywin was arrogant enough to believe he could simply bury everyone in fear, and it's precisely why everything fell apart the moment he died, even discounting Cersei's stupidity.

[@elliotchinneryhinks8554]

Tywin is a god

[@Jumpinjoe14]

Show went downhill after Tywin died

[@goldagoldstein2529]

Tyrion should at least have sniffed out Sanas fun box once, just to make sure everything works fine for her there, down under😅

[@catelyntalks]

What are you scared of the word vagina?

[@puredollskin9514]

Okay creepster

[@rodrigovaccari7547]

When a half man is more of a man than you:

[@percywhite846]

If the Lannisters were the victims of the Red Wedding, their rallying cry would be the fact that the Starks ignored guests rights and slaughtered hundreds of men at a wedding while they were feasting. This was one of the few times Tywin had me seething lol, he knew what he did was wrong but he knew Robb Stark was too much to handle.

[@orboobleck5366]

For a man who's all about "The Family Name," Tywin really hates his children.

[@nandoman4769]

Tywin couldn’t have accounted for the Starks marching south and then becoming kings and queens.

[@TV-ge3uj]

Starks don't do well in the south. Except if you are Cregan Stark and it is the Hour of the Wolf.