Early Access Final Boss Chronos - Hades 2

[@adrianramirez6395]

All thay work Zagreus put into the house of hades and now look at it. That's the biggest crime in my eyes.

[@toastee5421]

once Chronos' redemption arc begins, he'll reverse the time anyway.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

​@@toastee5421 Haha. The benefits of being a Time Lord. 😊

[@yeeyw]

Fun fact if you seen mel dream when she control Hades you actually could see all the deco still present how we left them in first game 😂

[@Herrscher-of-Autism]

We spent so many gems just for Chronos to do THIS

[@Burgertimee]

“Hey Melione welcome back, what have you been up to?” “Oh you know, just killing Time”

[@PizzaBagels589]

I like how neither Mellinoe nor Chronos give each other any answers. No grand expositions of bigger schemes, no pompous declarations of justice and motive, no monologuing. Just a hearty “fuck you” to each other as Chronos dies.

[@kylestubbs8867]

It’s not like Melinoe wanted answers. She just wanted him gone, even if temporarily.

[@PizzaBagels589]

@@kylestubbs8867 True, but I was mainly referring to how villains often exposition dump in fiction, in death or prior to their big plan unfolding. So seeing these characters not say shit is refreshing.

[@ramon6783]

I like how he says "fighting is forbidden in this house". A nice little reference to Hades 1 where if you try to attack in the House of Hades a message pops up that says "fighting is forbidden".

[@thirdcoinedge]

I like how Kronos sounds more like an intelligent grandfather figure rather than the deep-voiced tones of his big-bearded sons. Really shows how different he is from the Olympians, as well as strengthening his clockmaker-like persona. Then there's his Egyptian influences, casting him as something more ancient and powerful than the existing Greek deities (keep in mind, ancient Egypt was as old to Athenians as Rome is to us now).

[@cathulionetharn5139]

yes, but ancient egypt was also ancient to ancient egyptians, as in there was a pharaoh who put great effort into studying "the ancients", additionally greece and egypt existed side by side, yes for athenians the pyramids were ancient, but there were people in greece (can't remember the name) that made cities at the same time, for instance the ruins of knossos (I think that was the name) Also he really both should and shouldn't sound like that: -on one hand he was a murderous tyrant, terrified he would be overthrown by his own son like his father before him and so devoured his own children -on the other his reign was the golden age (of plenty, prosperity, peace and virtue), meanwhile the Olympians oversaw the silver age (kinda like the golden age on the surface but with a lot of betrayal, scheming and backstabbing on the inside, got so bad the Olympians called the flood to almost wipe out humanity), bronze age (the age of Heroes and monsters) and iron age (what ancient greeks believed they lived in)

[@Dawit1385]

@@cathulionetharn5139​​⁠ I believe the greeks you’re thinking of are either the Minoans or the Mycenaeans. Both were ancient compared to classical Greece and existed separately from each other alongside the different periods of ancient Egypt; for example, Mycenaeans existed alongside the middle kingdom, i believe, and Minoans existed alongside the early middle kingdom/late early kingdoms. I THINK. And Knossos was a Minoan palace. Pretty cool stuff, huh? Also I agree that his voice and overall design is meh. I expected him to have an extraordinarily “strict father”/“overbearingly patriarchal” vibe going on, kinda like if you mixed Hades’s design with this one. But I think it’ll grow on me

[@potatomo9609]

@@cathulionetharn5139ironically the “Iron Age” is now actually considered the golden age of Greece, and everything is just downhill after the Peloponnesian war then Rome.

[@gameb9oy]

Be fun if that was intentional. There’s one hades child left, and the only way I could see them expanding on this anymore is if they go beyond just Greek gods, and it either be the Norse or the Egyptian gods next. Norse is only worth it if Fenrir and Cerberus get to be friends

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

@@gameb9oy I always though after Hades they could've done a spiritual sequel in norse myths, perhaps Balder trying to climb out of Helheim and back to Asgard, only to fall to his brother Höd forced by the fates to keep him dead.

[@AimlessZealot]

Fun fact: No matter which way Chronos faces during this fight, his scythe always flies Clockwise.

[@lunk2569]

You have substantially improved my success rate without projectile speed reduction. Thank you.

[@fakhrulzainal5384]

Like a clock

[@MonoSause]

He can swing his scythe counterclockwise but will always throw it clockwise. His little orbs also go clockwise

[@dighad3824]

that's such a good design ngl

[@tamnker8465]

⁠@@fakhrulzainal5384 Genius observations of an indubitably astute individual, yes yes most certainly. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@somerandomdude7815]

My favorite detail about him is that he is immune to all time manipulation abilities, INCLUDING PAUSING THE GAME!

[@---li1oo]

Wait really?

[@somerandomdude7815]

@@---li1oo yea, you can find a bunch of vids showcasing it, and there is a upgrade that takes away the ability and gives him new voice lines, my favorite is when he complains about you needing to go to the bathroom

[@Jrichter935]

​@@---li1oo yea. He always gets offended at the attempt too. There is an upgrade to allow pausing eventually tho

[@ATinCanOnYT]

I found that out the hard way, paused the game to take a bathroom break and returned to a dead melinoë

[@Paludion]

He looks a lot egyptian for a greek god, but I can see why they would take his design into this direction. The "sands of time" makes us think of the desert, and the egyptians were obsessed with eternity ; fitting for a titan who is supposed to be eternal and yet isn't, by other entities designs.

[@helpgirlimhavingalifecrisis]

The golden veins running through his design are also reminiscent of kintsugi, the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery with gold. Pretty fitting for an entity who was broken apart and came back together under…suspicious circumstances.

[@falconeshield]

​@tdenzel101Even the forgotten Indo-Greco era had these elements

[@chakradarrat8832]

also just: alexander the great as a whole how he broguht a lot of cultures in

[@kainingyao7873]

It kinda makes sense considering how the civilizations of Greece and Egypt have had important historical relations throughout ancient times. Egyptian mythology once even got popular enough in Greece that there was a Greek cult dedicated to the Egyptian goddess Isis.

[@victorhugo3952]

Yeah, they had to make him black somehow

[@kainingyao7873]

If your girl: - Is very good at fighting with an axe - Has an unrelenting determination to achieve her goals no matter what it takes - Has the capacity to build character-driven relationships with her allies - Can obtain abilities that involve fire - Has the final boss of her story arc share the name of one of Zeus' parents That's not Edelgard. That's Melinoe.

[@Rakshael]

hah! and the only well-written character between the two

[@bravecereza]

​@@Rakshaelthey're both very well written, get tomatoe'd 🍅🍅🍅

[@Rakshael]

@@bravecereza Mary Sues are good writing these days? Tell me you don't know good writing without telling me you watch too much trash anime

[@valarmis]

​@@Rakshael How is Edelgard a Mary Sue??? She's the main antagonist, presented as wrong by the game's narrative, not particularly beloved by those in the cast during the latter half of the game, and gets outright decapitated or impaled by the main character on 3/4 routes. Something tells you've never played the game and don't know what you're talking about, which if that's the case is just pathetic

[@Rakshael]

@@valarmis she thinks she's got some deep burden she's bearing but really just suffers from her own bad choices, succeeds where she shouldn't, has horrible ideas, is generally spouting corny nonsense... yeah you're just a fanboy, but nice assumptions

[@coorooo8638]

Says he has no last words; gives two sentences of last words before death

[@frankkuncio2065]

No last words directed to Melinoe.

[@brodyfranklin6613]

He is time he does have it to spare.

[@tamnker8465]

I guess some tropes are… TIMEless Yeah I’ll see myself out

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

I love his design so much. The way his scythe at first is a cane, his ebony skin and golden cracks that reminisce of the japanese Kintsugi art since Chronos was cut to pieces, the floating wings, and the SOUND DESIGN, good gods I love those heavy "tick tock" of his phase 2 clock! And the way our "game over" tune starts with a carillon bell and ticks! I could gush about every tiny detail in this game....

[@idfc1710]

fun fact if use the selene boon that slows down time in this fight it doesnt work on him. It makes sense but I found out the hard way......

[@faustoelportugues5725]

u cant pause while fightin him too

[@ВладиславБулаев-л3э]

Heimdall moment

[@MnecraftEpicPro]

The basic Arcana that slows down time when you use omega attacks also seem neutered here. Can't tell for sure, my ass was flattened immediately.

[@spidey5558]

​@@faustoelportugues5725 WhiteNight moment

[@fitzviandraduivenab2790]

​@@MnecraftEpicProCan confirm chronos bypasses that, though it still works on his goons

[@thedude4840]

Heh “no cursing in this house”

[@hartantoanggoro]

Sadly Mel never knew her family not even her parents, she only knew them from her mentor and never see them by herself. She becomes like her father with each clash with Chronos, at least the stubbornness are hereditary as every member of Hades family are stubborn and hard to dissuade.

[@kompatybilijny9348]

Hades 1: Kill dad Hades 2: Kill granddad Hades 3: Kill great granddad I guess we will fight Uranos in the third game then

[@haihuynh8772]

Uranos rising from the grave like: "Oi bitches where the fuck is ma junk"

[@adrianramirez6395]

Would be cool if you could play as both Zagreus and Melinoe then. See how they both interact with the old cast and new.

[@dragondream5997]

There's still a third kid attributed to Hades and Persephone if I remember the shaky mythos. Macariah or smth? Or they could go the adopted route which is Adonis.

[@jamirami-vf6yh]

@@dragondream5997 hell na i aint using drake's son

[@Alucard-lz2hb]

@@dragondream5997 It is Makaria.

[@ShadowSpark-dx4jq]

The hades 2 devs really understood the importance of fighting literal time, you cannot slow or otherwise impart chronos’s movement, you cannot even pause the game during the fight without beating him first. His mannerisms speak as someone who doesn’t care how about his own time in any way. He doesn’t care if you two fight or speak quickly or slowly, only that these things do, have and will happen, because his own existence is the sole reason these things can happen

[@dubbymazlo]

I wonder how the extreme measures Chronos fight will go...

[@MrAzulmagia]

My bet is on stupidly low time limit once the fight starts, with maybe something fancy like gaining a second for every attack that lands on Chronos.

[@dumbsterdives]

give him a DPS check like Young Xehanort's desperation move in KH3 and DDD where if you cant end the phase fast enough the fight restarts from the beginning

[@Ostr0]

​@@MrAzulmagiaLike Marluxia's Fight from Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Remix

[@spyjack69]

They could just do what they did in the first game and give him a third phase

[@ZoetropeTony]

@@dumbsterdivesomg that would be so cruel, especially if Melinoe doesn’t get any health or death defiances back

[@ThePastaBolognese]

Chronos, Titan of Time, or as I came to know him, Titan of Too Many Dashes

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

Chrono's wings reminds me of the six winged angels known as the Seraphim they are considered one of the powerful of the angels. I think its rather fitting for Chronos.

[@2__D]

So the ending says her tale requires time Like the developers are telling us to wait for updates so death shall suffice for now? That's crazy

[@trickjack8329]

I did not expect this but Chronos gives me nyarlathotep vibes. Especially when we first encounter him diguised.

[@billcipher3479]

i wonder what is in zags room that mel needs to fight chronos for?

[@feenylee477]

stop watch

[@Teamfortressjunkie]

mirror of night maybe?

[@alexiluffy216]

I've managed to cheese my way with Witch's Staff + Poseidon's Wave Flourish (special ability) + (hammer) Double Moonshot + some poms for it and I've finally managed to reach Chronos. Let's see if I can beat him

[@theworld6710]

I really enjoy the game, but I hope they adjust attacks. They feel so much tougher to dodge than in the first, which really hurts with you having far less health.

[@haihuynh8772]

It's Mel's dash, she is a lot slower than Zag and you have to be more deliberate with her.

[@PhilipAlexanderHassialis]

Both Chronos and Eris fights are kinda unfair. Imho the Eris +100% / +200% damage debuff should be tuned because she ends up oneshotting an entire death defiance. Same with Chronos, they should adjust the damage a bit and fergedsakes, make his charges / slashes / whatnot telegraphed on the ground. All other fights gave you a measure of what to expect before the attack came. The difficulty ramp up is ridiculous and unfair against what the game has given up to that point.

[@yeeyw]

Because she is a mage/witch so she’s not that good physically compared to zag. I mean zag dash had almost no Cooldown and then later ingame you could dash multiple time before cooldown. You need to let it sink in that mel is a mage while zag is a warrior

[@bebeusxl9842]

@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis My biggest problem right now with Chronos isn't the bossfight itself, rather how long it takes to get to him. It takes so long to get there, even with a powerful build, that I forget his attack patterns and end up dying rather quickly.

[@PhilipAlexanderHassialis]

@@bebeusxl9842 My first kill was 40mins of playtime. Second one was 36mins. It only gets better as you learn more of the game. Sure, we cant all be like Sybore with his > 15min runs, but still. An average of ~30 mins or so a run is not too bad and should be achievable after some practice. That comes from someone who took 15+ times to get Chronos down and still hasn't beaten Eris.

[@Ringoroadagain6]

I encountered him only one time so far, and he 1 shot me on the second phase??? The damage was 802!!

[@burntficus9340]

That one attack where he freezes in place and starts moving his scythe in a weird way while one place on the map gets highlighted is an instakill move, you need to move to that spot as soon as you can

[@Ringoroadagain6]

@burntficus9340 Yeah, I realized the run after, very cheap move.

[@LordWyatt]

If I had a nickel for every time Kronos was brought back to life to be the main villain of the Olympians, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t much but it’s awesome it happened twice.

[@spandansahs8816]

He is not as powerful as a primordial. I surprised nyx could not stop him

[@zerox23454]

You have to remember in Greek lore Kronos defeated his father who was the sky

[@nathanbrown7906]

​@@zerox23454with the help of Gaia and other titans

[@spandansahs8816]

They did not even fight and he survived that

[@junebug4004]

A titan is closer to the primordial to the point that the only difference is 1%

[@spandansahs8816]

Not even primordials are universal components that make it up so as long as the universe exists they can’t die

[@Sanest_E]

8:55 i love how Melinoe here corrects him on his remark about "her family", essentially she reminds him that it's his family as well attempting to instill doubt and regret in Chronos' head, because it's his very family he is literally putting through hell and he has been doing it since his first children were born.

[@victorhugo3952]

First phase is easy to beat, he just has a lot of health, it's more annyoing how long it takes to put him down than it's entertaining and challenging

[@SpiffierShindigs]

That's probably because you're used to playing as max power Zag with a synergistic build. Optimal strats for maxing out Mel's damage aren't known yet.

[@haihuynh8772]

@@SpiffierShindigsI find that Mel seems just more geared for more drawn out fights. Zag can get straight in the thick of it and survive with his instant dash and very fast attacks, Mel has her sprint and is more geared for getting in and out of the engagement than staying in their face the whole time.

[@kylestubbs8867]

Never challenge a master of time if you don’t have much of your own to waste.

[@jacobrobbins6432]

Damn, I can't even get to the man without losing.

[@Did_No_Wrong]

Soooo interesting fact about my playthrough....i didn't know you can increase the max cap of the amount of arcana you can hold until after I attempted the Chronos boss fight. Needless to say i was a bit embarrassed

[@bargin2587]

His intro music goes so hard.

[@HellIsForeverWithInfinite]

Melinoe: "For there is no escape from fate-" Then an ad played. I just felt like Chronos was like "No escape maybe, but a delay for sure"

[@sengiko]

I can only imagine what Kratos would do to this Chronos

[@petre1758]

I kind of hate that he summons minions in this fight, ngl

[@prismus6520]

So you hated Hades's fight as well in the OG?

[@petre1758]

@@prismus6520 not really? Hades doesn't come of as proud and looking down Zag, at least not to the same degree as Chronos. Chronos going on and on about how insignificant you are but starting the fight with his cheerleading sqad, idk, I expected it to be a 1 on 1 and didn't when it was Hades, don't really know why

[@prismus6520]

I meant that both fights send summons against you. Only that while Hades sends wretches that are bound to him, Chronos sends cultists that worship him.

[@virgomaquiavelico58]

I love the voice of chronos, sounds really like a god(or titan).

[@Timmynator-9000]

I've fought him 4 or so times now and I've gotten really close to winning the first time. He continues to slash me to death now...

[@jabronijackpot]

He's got some of that elden ring attack delay going on. Makes the first few runs really rough.

[@Dreand_S]

chronos have that hourglass figure, literally

[@funfettifroggy]

I'm curious in hades 2, if Athena has a dash-deflect boon. I feel like it would be majorly beneficial in boss battles like this, but I don't have early access, so someone lmk lol

[@blackheartthedarklord6428]

Kronos: You cannot defeat me, child. Melione: You're right...I cannot.... *Points to the side* But HE can! Kratos: CHRONOS! I heard you were messing around with my cousin! I'm about to do what I did to the other Chronos and tear you up from the inside! Chronos AYO PAUSE!

[@jldragon7855]

RHYME AT HIM MEL

[@IllD.]

I wonder if Chronos' halo is a Darkest Dungeon reference.

[@gamerdaicha8501]

How come he changed his skill in second phase😮😮😮

[@FazFaz]

chronos or me? check the description, video is split a few times because I couldnt beat either phases the first time LOL

[@TimBagels]

Oh MAN they made him fuckin Anubis!!! HES SO COOL

[@kylestubbs8867]

Colors of Anubis, shrewdness of Set… and the gold lines on his body suggest dismemberment and reassembly along the lines of Osiris.

[@chanceraphael328]

Does artemis offer the support fire boon as well?

[@khanhvu173]

It's kinda harder to beat chronos than hades from what i see

[@PhilipAlexanderHassialis]

*significantly* harder.

[@kjkjkjcwazy3280]

LOVE cronos's desing

[@dighad3824]

imagine Chronos on extreme measure lol

[@andresdeleon2122]

I can't wait for it, Extreme Measures was extremely fun on the first game, and this game with more bosses is gonna be fucking gooooood

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Me after doing 8 pauses so i can go to the bathroom: (kratos voice) *I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE!!!!!*

[@Glacial7]

I suppose it’s ironic that the god of time’s boss fight would be less about raw skill and more of an endurance run

[@kylestubbs8867]

No, not ironic. Fitting. The very least a master of time should be able to do is waste that of their enemies. It even extends to the player, since pausing the game won’t pause _him._

[@tiagoborruey8183]

Did he just change loadout mid fight?

[@raissaviana4373]

love the fight, I got crash bandicoot 3 N Tropy boss fight vibes

[@zenox30]

Why dont u have the same powers on phase 2 ?

[@FazFaz]

Check description. I spliced the video like 3 times to show the dialogue you get when you first meet him, and because I couldn’t beat him the first time I got to his first and second phase LOL

[@zenox30]

@@FazFaz lmao my bad... Personally I still stuck here, I manage to get to chronos quite easily 2/3 tries, but I got him to phase 2 only once and got destroyed... Gotta grind more I guess ^^

[@FazFaz]

no worries goat. you got this

[@totallyaccurate]

reminds me of kayangel last gate in lost ark

[@Panda-xd5ey]

What was that thing at the center after you defeat him?

[@Teamfortressjunkie]

Time can't be stopped, slaying Chronos just removes his physical body until he is able to regenerate again. So that thing at the center is simply what is left of him.

[@Panda-xd5ey]

@@Teamfortressjunkie thank you; I had thought I could go into Zag’s room and still come back to the throne room, and I instantly regretted it once Homer started narrating lol

[@elmartinez333]

Why is Chronos kinda...

[@thebaseandtriflingcreature174]

no don't even try it, he's into some freaky shit he'll try to eat you

[@sorrychangedmyusername3594]

AW HELL NAW BRO GOT PERKED UP

[@rawberry9781]

​@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 even better i mean

[@Potidaon]

Hear me out...

[@mishiwishu7823]

Love his overall design, but man his proportions are bugging me. Maybe his head is too big? Or the neck slopes too much? Something about it

[@haihuynh8772]

He is very thin and gangly, his proportions are much more stretched out than the other gods.

[@kevina4998]

DUUUDE Is Chronos’s VA “The Voice” from Pyre?

[@moonbun690]

Yes :) Logan Cunningham, their lead voice actor. He's also the voice of Hades, Poseidon and Homer.

[@PewPewSol]

Anyone know what all the one hit kills are on 2nd phase? Shit's so annoying.

[@beasteh757]

Getting hit by any of the following: the clock hand beams, the circular blast with the small safe area, and the circular blast with rings of safety

[@bxrby4961]

She needs Golden Experience Requiem

[@robopokorny2982]

chronos is not titan he is primordial.if they mean cronus but problem is he doesnt have nothing to do with time.

[@andresdeleon2122]

This game interpretation is that Chronos ans Cronus are the same, just like the first game making a reference to Zagreus and Dionysus being the same God according to some historians

[@robopokorny2982]

@@andresdeleon2122 oh thank for explanation but still it is wrong

[@fahholliday5374]

@@robopokorny2982 It's actually based off how in Orphic Mystery Cult mythology, Chronos and Cronus are one and the same. Orphic Hymns are the inspiration for the series in general.

[@robopokorny2982]

@@fahholliday5374 idk that something new i learned

[@Potidaon]

Chronos is a primordial in Orphic mythology, like mentioned, but the game lore seems largely based on Hesiod's Theogony, where there is no Chronos, or any god representing time itself.

[@LostWallet]

did they confused Chronos and Kronos? lol classic

[@Beeg_Boy]

In an interview they said they most closely model the game’s mythology after that of the Orphic cult and they typically merged Chronos and Cronus

[@Potidaon]

Their lore largely follows Hesiod, and Hesiod doesn't have Chronos aka time in his Theogony.

[@davidlawn8539]

i don't understand so we can't free hades and stop chronos.

[@Teamfortressjunkie]

There's no ending yet, the story stops right in there early access (besides the surface levels which aren't done either). Just like Hades 1 the full story will probably be revealed in version 1.0.

[@jacobkern2060]

Because the game's still in early access. I don't even think the Pact of Punishment equivalent's out yet

[@ethanduncan1646]

A: its early acess the devs have openly said they have not even written the full ending and only have an outline for how they want things to go. B: Chronos is the personfication of time. You cannot stop time, only delay and alter its rate of passing. To fully destroy Chronos would mean the destruction of linear time as a concept, which is not good for civilization.

[@tgb1005]

​​@@ethanduncan1646after you beat him and talk to Hecate she hints at the possebility of sealing him. After that you'll find a new recepy in the cauldron with one rescource being z-sand which Chronos drops upon being defeated and one unknown rescource. So similar to the first game you'll have to beat the last boss multiple times to get the true ending. They'll probably let you seal him and then make up some excuse like "oh you have to still fight him to weaken him so that he doesn't break the seal" or something.

[@hydroweapon]

hate this fight, can't beat him -__-

[@Thissentenceisfalselosers]

This was literally a Touhou danmaku battle set in Hades.

[@theoroderick782]

Uhhh he looks so much less intimidating than Hades, I was hoping for something more badass...

[@epicgamerevang4502]

It is still Early access, design is bound to change

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

Tbh he has this scary aura sometimes its not about the looks. He has this trickster and dangerous vibe.

[@yeeyw]

No you need to understand while hades is more intimidating because its fits his personality always angry and in a bad mood. And Chronos personality so far was Cunning and i think his design is very fittinh for that

[@fitzviandraduivenab2790]

Trust me, his fight is much harder than hades

[@Potidaon]

Bigger = stronger might be generally true in nature. But these are gods. They are beyond nature.

[@Thedemonlord66]

damn I could have beat him in under 20 runs. I had 2 death defiance but I did not understand what to do when he use his OS move in phase 2 :/ lost my 2 death defiance like that :/