Examples from a great old book I found detailing early American knife types. It's also a nice way to show what researching the history of weapons was like before the internet. Thumbing through this really takes me back.
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@Stoney3276 жыл бұрын
As a primitive knife maker, this video resource is very greatly appreciated. Thank you. Stoney: at The Mountain Man Emporium
@ObjectHistory6 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing to hear, thanks!
@killerkraut91793 жыл бұрын
@@ObjectHistory Old Bocks have still his worth web sites can be deleted and all informations arent available in the web
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
@@killerkraut9179 Very true. I have many books on my shelves with info I can't find online.
@killerkraut91793 жыл бұрын
@@ObjectHistory Its always good to have something hand tight.
@JunkyardFox3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite videos on KZbin. I come back to rewatch it every few months.
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing. So glad you find it useful.
@moneystewart52575 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I really like weapons history, especially knives.
@thegreyghost27895 жыл бұрын
I own that book and spent many hours reading and studying the pictures, still glance at it from time to time, thanks for the video.
@jimshady076 жыл бұрын
Some of the early knives have a germanic look too in my opinion. Very interesting video thank you for takign the time to do this. All the best Jim
@ObjectHistory6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim. Interesting observation, I don’t know enough about them to say.
@coleparker5 жыл бұрын
Being 66 years old myself, book research is how I started out in career as an Archaeologist
@dannyb2783 Жыл бұрын
Every young archaeologist ends up as a artifact!
@JunkyardFox4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I love knives and history do this video is a favorite of mine. Would like to see more.
@OnTheRiver665 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a book! I have a book on American knives but these were not in there. Great pictured! Thank you! Great video!
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video.
@ArizonaGhostriders5 жыл бұрын
I must have missed this episode. Great book with nice illustrations. Love the history.
@murphylhunn9 ай бұрын
I feel a lot better about my old work now, modern tools and stock really make a difference
@ObjectHistory9 ай бұрын
I can imagine!
@MrEdium3 жыл бұрын
This is an Excellent book review on knives. Thank You for Sharing.
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Katana-Karl4 жыл бұрын
Man you have a gret channel. Loving it so far. Can you tell I'm binge watching? Lol
@ObjectHistory4 жыл бұрын
Very pleased to read that buddy!
@donfierro7774 жыл бұрын
Great video even Better Book!!!!
@Stoney3275 жыл бұрын
Hello Me again.. Stoney. I can't tear myself away from this video. This is about the 5th. time I've watched it. Each time I come away with some new insights that I missed in previous viewings. I just stared making Bowie knives, so this video is especially interesting to me. Please do more in the future. Maybe specializing in a specific knife type/time period in each video. Especially the fur trade era in America. Thanks for reading this. God bless: Stoney at The Mountain Man Emporium
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
That was amazing to read. Thanks
@CuttingEdgetools2 жыл бұрын
Great Book. I have it in my library. American Primitive are my favorites 🇺🇸
@DoloresVillatoro-ho5jgАй бұрын
That first knife reminds me of a Becker BK9. A very modern American knife, and a very good one too.
@paullytle2467 жыл бұрын
Great interesting video
@searcher74784 жыл бұрын
Truly enjoyed this Thank You SO MUCH!
@ObjectHistory4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ObjectHistory4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to read. Thanks!
@lanced32562 жыл бұрын
WOW!! Great post, thanks for bringing this to us. That book looks amazing. I am not much of a recreational reader but I am a knife nut and I would probably spend hours buried in a book like that truthfully that book is probably a better resource for knife history than the internet. You just get slammed with adds. Best 9 minutes I spent today!! Thanks again LD
@ObjectHistory2 жыл бұрын
Ha. My pleasure.
@mattvanderwalt62206 ай бұрын
Great video. Note the first double edged 'combat' knife could very likely just be a double edged hunting knife (not to say it wouldn't be used for self protection). They have been popular for hunting in Europe for centuries - and are still commonly available today. Simply having 2 edges so when the one gets blunt you can simply switch over - but also as a 'finishing' knife to end injured animals (these knives can be quite large and resemble what we'd consider as combat knives (imagine dealing with an injured boar).
@jessehemphill94063 ай бұрын
I got an autographed copy of this! Such a great book
@ObjectHistory3 ай бұрын
Very cool
@0351nick-ch8ee Жыл бұрын
Well done. Keep em coming.
@ObjectHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@archiebunker36863 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome service you have gained a subscriber
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@DansHouse20224 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for this video! I am a Minuteman reenactor. Like many of the guys in my organization, we are acquiring items for our outfit over time. Sadly the hardest items to get ahold of are authentic looking knives (e.g., they have some plastic or modern looking screws on them). I recently met custom knife maker, who I am considering asking if he could make some period knives. I've been doing some research online on what types of knives did they have back then, and that too has been hard. I found a recommendation for this book. I am considering getting this book now!
@ObjectHistory4 ай бұрын
Awesome. An accurate period recreation would be pretty sweet.
@FireCreekForge3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I found a copy and bought it.
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@dto73214 жыл бұрын
Dude awesome Video
@ObjectHistory4 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@dobypilgrim61605 жыл бұрын
Super. Thanks for this.
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@pattreadwell6149 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the research
@ObjectHistory Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thank you for watching.
@larrywhite66375 жыл бұрын
I had this book, gave it to a nephew (big mistake), but now all I have left is Power Horns and their Architecture, The Ketucky Rifle Hunting Pouch, both by Madison Grant and American Primitive Knives 1770 - 1870, Gordon B. Minnis. Funny how mistakes are identified. Oh well.
@KnifeCrazzzzy2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting!
@ObjectHistory2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@longrider423 жыл бұрын
That knife at 7:45, is known as a Green River butcher knife, favored by mountain men. And still made today. How do I know, I have one.
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@gretashapiro41184 жыл бұрын
Really cool
@samnelson49754 жыл бұрын
Daggers also serve for a coup de gras on injured game or livestock.
@robertayoder20634 жыл бұрын
Sure
@ovidiocalvet Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you know the steel on that knives? . I know the carbon steel in a real process appears on 1856 , but did you know more about the steel ?
@ObjectHistory Жыл бұрын
Sorry, don't have any information on that. It's outside my area of expertise.
@ACOUSTIC_4LOVE3 жыл бұрын
Great Book to own. Authentic Early American Bowies and frontier knives are much more Scarce than Sheffield imports. Very early fur trade imports and Pre Civil War/Gold rush Era Sheffield knives are much more scarce. I like the Primitive American Knives over most all of the Sheffield’s. Any Early American Frontier Knife pre 1890’ that is maker Marked is a Treasure. California Gold Rush knives are in a league of their own.
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Good point about the imports. Speaking of the Gold Rush, what at least to my understanding is called the San Francisco style Bowie knife is an antique type I definitely want to acquire one day.
@ACOUSTIC_4LOVE3 жыл бұрын
Object History -I think most of us would love to have a Price,’ MCConnel’ or Will & Finck. I don’t and never will-but I guess next best thing is a good Book with nice pics of em🇺🇸
@someone-wx8by5 жыл бұрын
The trapper with the long rifle for me has a very interesting knife (couldn't unterstand the guy's name - sorry, I am German - ), but would you let me know the blade length, please? Thanks in advance.
@raphlvlogs2713 жыл бұрын
Knife design evolved significantly through out history.
@powerplay4real174 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they was very decorative in those days
@joejones95204 жыл бұрын
good book but he is calling steel "wrought iron" thruout the book. Wrought iron is not steel and cannot be used for a knife because it is pure iron and very soft, it cant be hardened. Ignore this and it's a good book but you do wonder how he got so mixed up if he is an expert?
@grahamwilliams12695 жыл бұрын
Is that an eye on knife 3? Could be a birds head with the sharp beak pointing to the handle. Just a thought.
@tecnotrog15 жыл бұрын
Nice I subscribed
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mailjamesthomas3 жыл бұрын
This guy's voice sounds like the actor John Billingsley...
@hernandezknives4 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@Tipi_Dan2 жыл бұрын
7:13 This is the classic Bowie knife. No date was offered in the video--- was one offered or speculated upon in the book? If it predates him, then the Bowie knife in its classic form existed before Jim Bowie. With no dating provided, I must assume that this knife post-dates Jim Bowie.
@chrisnewport782624 күн бұрын
If the extra metal is there for added weight for chopping and perhaps strength. Masonic signed are to be acknowledged as a “ traveler.” Passed, as a brother. Such were everywhere, if you were ambitious. Big knives fought, small, used.
@hundwyn75305 жыл бұрын
Agreed, bowies are basically modern seaxes 😁 Anglo ethnographic frontier weapons, both
@Ramoncandamo5 жыл бұрын
Jajaja
@joshuatichota50465 жыл бұрын
Okay I've been trying to do some research on Boot knives, not having any luck maybe you have some info on them that would help me. The thing I really would like to know is is cowboys ever had boot knives inside their boots. When I was into the whole Back To The Future movies, on the third one they showed Bufford Mad Dog Tannon having a knife in his boot. I am wondering if this was Hollywood's interpretation of what cowboys had or if they actually did have boot knives. If you could let me know (if you have the info or so), that would be great, like I said, I've been looking all over the internet for info about cowboys having boot knives but no luck.
@joshuatichota50465 жыл бұрын
Forgot that I didn't say thank you until right after I hit the send button, sorry about that.
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Not a specialty of mine but here are some 19th century descriptions of cowboy boot knives. Even if some are fictional (one of them is a poem), they still seem to speak to the practice existing... California. State Board of Horticulture.. 1892 “His ambition was to be such a man, to smoke cigarettes, swear, carry a couple of revolvers in his belt and a bowie knife in his boot.” The Field of Honor: Being a Complete and Comprehensive History of Duelling.. 1883 “He carries a wicked knife in a boot-leg, and one or more revolvers at his waist.” The Speaker's Complete Program: A Collection of Dialogues, Readings... 1891 “The Cowboy. He came from the land of the setting sun. This blazing star of the first degree; A cowboy bold, all ripe for fun… He was a terror to city curs. A pistol was thrust through his leathern belt. And a knife reposed in his horseman’s boot…”
@MrEdium4 жыл бұрын
The "Knife" used be the cowboy on horseback looks amazingly like a Langes Messer sword similar to the Condor 21in blade Messer but with a shorter guard Not a true Bowie knive.
@ObjectHistory4 жыл бұрын
Interesting observation. Thanks.
@vasilioskosman27894 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm jumping the gun early here.I've not heard that the muzzle loader was single shot. And not much use close up. Unless u use it as club. Therefore gun stock war club came into being. The primary weapon until civil war was the knife. Pistols were rare and single shot. Helps if u read the book dudes. David bowtie was jump by highway robbers. He kill 4 w his knife Cotting limbs off a couple of the robbers. Read the book
@erichusayn5 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback.
@erichusayn5 жыл бұрын
@@ObjectHistory not a problem. I'm super into knives and have never saw a few of those. I found it very interesting.
@Captain-Electro4 жыл бұрын
@@erichusayn small world Eric 😆 I swear I'm not stalking you through the comments 🤣
@erichusayn4 жыл бұрын
@@Captain-Electro so, do you come here often?
@Captain-Electro4 жыл бұрын
@@erichusayn just subscribed this week actually 😏
@admiralgoodboy6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't chop with that first knife (second photo) check out its tang
@admiralgoodboy3 жыл бұрын
@The Lonely Wolf they use rat tail tangs? I don’t think so
@admiralgoodboy3 жыл бұрын
@The Lonely Wolf i had a look at some what i saw were tapered tangs not rats tail, you gotta link to what you were looking at so i can triple check?
@admiralgoodboy3 жыл бұрын
@The Lonely Wolf i had a look around yeah and saw tapered tangs on youtube. Ima gonna check out that channel
@seanmtactical60695 жыл бұрын
At 7:05, that looks like a French made Cartouche knife.
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment/observation.
@richardmcginnis5344 Жыл бұрын
i have a horn handled knife with a similar sheath to the big clip point, is there a site i can send some images to?
@ObjectHistory Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately nothing I'm aware of... it's more a matter of putting it in an internet forum with lots of knowledgeable people. Find a Bowie knife collector's group, etc. and ask for help there. Depending on how much work you want to put in, you can also Google antique knives/Bowie knives 'for sale,' 'museum,' 'auction,' etc. and you might get lucky and find one very similar to yours.
@ronl.4524 Жыл бұрын
"Way back in the old days"...Books?? LOL
@robweems73053 жыл бұрын
all seeing eye
@leemday57315 жыл бұрын
The Americans apparently make a knife that's apparently good enough for the average American !........wolsthom Sheffield 1876 makers of fine cutleries to Gentleman adventures
@glenmo12 жыл бұрын
Jim Bowie's original ..knife didnt look like the modern bowie designs we see & think of now days! ..Bowie's original knife... Actually requisitioned from a blacksmith by Bowies Brother ..''Resin Bowie" and given to his brother Jim.. the knife actually looked more like a modern large chef knife! ..... Large knives were very popular with mountain men and.. working men in the frontier as working knives but also doubled as protection as there were only black powder single shot rifles and pistols back then
@ObjectHistory2 жыл бұрын
The first one was made out of a file by the blacksmith, wasn’t it?
@glenmones7132 жыл бұрын
@@ObjectHistory not sure.. possibly? But it look like a modern chef knife shape ...nothing like we think of nowadays bowie
@utej.k.bemsel47772 жыл бұрын
The earliest american knifes were made of flint or obsidian....
@ObjectHistory2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@surette562 жыл бұрын
Please don’t explain what a book is otherwise than that OK
@vasilioskosman27894 жыл бұрын
I mean really u discharge ur long gun. Takes 30-45seconds or more to reload. In that time w bowtie u can kill a dozen or more with bowtie knife. Come on. Thing about it. U got to get ur head back pre-1860s its common sense fellows