Earning 30 Million Dollars Through Amazon? Ft. Muhammad Naeem Sikandar | 378 | TBT

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00:00 Introduction
02:30 Early Life & Education
11:29 Running Away From The Hostel
12:53 What Happened After?
15:44 Changing Majors
15:53 Why Computer Systems Engineering?
20:24 Unlocking Opportunities: The Scholarship Search
21:58 Navigating Life After Father’s Loss
26:03 His Money-Making Drive
30:44 In Retrospect: Would he change anything?
34:52 Finding Courses, Learning Skills & Monetizing It
41:24 Publishing Own Book in 2010
44:09 Everyday Publishing: How it all unfolded?
52:49 Passing on the Knowledge
57:15 Taking Amazon’s Course & Launching a Product
59:31 Launching New Products: How it went?
1:08:33 Starting Podcasting & more
1:14:05 E-commerce Education Landscape: Naeem’s Perspective
1:19:04 Deconstructing Critique: An In-Depth Discussion
1:29:29 The Flaws in the System
1:40:36 Can This Even Be Solved?
1:45:01 How Would Naeem Do It Right?
1:56:46 What Actually Went Wrong?
2:12:44 The Long Game
2:16:39 Misguided Incentives
2:24:14 Solutions
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[@mahboobulhassan5560]

Well, I am Syed, PhD student in USA, spent almost two hours in your podcast. I came to know about Nameem Sikandar from the Podcast he did with Sunny bhai. What I felt is Naeem Sikandar is another competitor getting launched in Pakistani Market to compete Sunny bhai and Saqib Azhar, the way both of you were highlighting theor mistakes. My question to Naeem Sikandar is why not you started training when you became successful in 2012. Well, the first part of Nameem sikandar is amazing as he developed himself through scholarship savings the same story of every scholarship holder. The second part is all about the discussion about EC and Enablers. I was expecting the discussion about your achivements. I would say Sunny bhai is not Amazon guy only, but the mentor as well. He has spent million dollars to build his eco system and earning from that system. If you have the courage to spend such amount, why don’t you wanna start your eco system? I could add more, but….

[@Mrfuzii]

Muzammil's frustration with the country's ethics and work eco system can be seen peaking in this video, The reason he couldn't let go of naeem without getting a solution of the critique. Muzammil you're absolutely right to be honest and every emotionally intelligent person in the country is facing the same.

[@shaheryarkhan3663]

Agree with you, First time i have listen Muzamil using slang in his Podcast.

[@zaybecreations]

Thank you so much for the podcast muzzamil, I'm 23yr young boy struggling in UAE and after investing 2hr and 40mins in your podcast I'm now full of patience. Keep up the good work hopefully we'll gonna meet somewhere any future. Lot's of wishes for you and for Naeem Sikander ❤

[@IEMAK]

I know naeem for a long time may be back in 2014-15, he was little involved in small workshops of KDP. Surprisingly he miserablity failed to show the maturity and dragged the content so long. I wasn't expecting at least. However, muzammil is an excellent podcaster and grilled the opponent where it needed.

[@AyazKhan-bk7qd]

Show off.. looks like an imposter .Trying to be cool

[@theadilanalysis3642]

I admire the patience that Muzammil shows regarding TBT, and I think the main reason for this patience is the development of a core audience. He wants to assess the number that he can pull WITHOUT using shorts/reels to lure people into the long-form. I might not agree entirely with the approach but I for sure respect it. I think Shorts/Reels are necessary not because they make your content viral-worthy, but because they are a very effective way to lure a viewer into watching the long-form. I would be very interested however, in studying the average watch time of a viewer that was lured in via short-form, and compare it to a viewer that has organically been watching TBT's long form podcasts regularly like clockwork. I am sure that the short-form consumer would move out of the video after a while because his/her appetite is not adjusted to that kind of content. Nevertheless, very very interesting discourse. I had the pleasure of meeting with Muzammil bhai on a dinner we hosted at IBA where he compered at an Engro conference. Can't wait to meet again and learn from him.

[@usmanamin9046]

Muzammil, brilliant conversationalist as always. Seems like a lot of confusion between ethics, skills building, mentoring and professional development and mixing it all with only defining success with money again! Muzammil is great about social impact and exploitation. Keep it up👍. Things needs to be more institutionalised and build on professional developmental approach, with less promise for just money but better social impact and quality of life.

[@zulaidkhalid7843]

An absolute gem of a podcast. I’ve listening/watching your podcasts for awhile but commenting for the first time. Let’s connect when you are back in Dubai.

[@smhumayun]

Great conversation. Loved it. Jeetay rahiye, sada khush rehiye aap dono (Muzzamil & Naeem). Not all that giltters is gold and even if it is, running after it without assessing, analyzing and planning, is akin to shooting yourself on the foot, crumbling down crashing on the floor.

[@haroonqraja]

Hats off to you, Muzammil. It felt like you were speaking my sentiments on the state of affairs in our tech/e-commerce/freelancing/training ecosystem. Glad to see others sharing such views, rare as we may be in the industry.

[@saadasad5038]

Naeem was saying the exact things, to get few students and make them successful slowly rather than going fast like EC or Enablers and Muzammil coundlt understand this simple thing.

[@hamzakhurram8912]

Good Stuff Muzzamil! Really decent podcast! Our country needs this brother❤

[@onestopwireless2047]

Lot of respect to Naeem for being so honest.

[@abw_0l033]

I love ur channel muzammil bhai( watching ur channel from last two years).! This channel has shifted my life in many ways thank you. Keep it going.

[@FARHAN-cp3og]

This podcast actually helpful for youngsters who want success early, Muzammil explain very well. Hats Off😊

[@shakilmallick5657]

abhi koi bhi I.T ka cheeta nahi hay..sub trick base..follow the method type..skill base taalib ilm hain..khud ka apna banaaya howa tareeqa kisi ka nahi hay..sub seekh rahay hain..aapkay mehmaano ki guftugu bohot aaala hoti hay..alag tarah ka seekhnay samajhnay ko milta hay..bohot shukriya

[@IrfanKhan-eu2tt]

During the negotiation, I stumbled upon an engaging podcast by Muzamil called Points Questions. It completely captivated me, prompting me to pause my work. Sending lots of love to Muzamil for such a fantastic podcast!

[@ARaza-oz2xq]

The problem with Extreme Commerce and Enablers is that they charged 1 thousand dollars for the training which is available free of cost on different platforms. They failed to provide value which they committed. They sell false dreams.

[@zarqaeye8176]

It made my day . I got a lot of info. We need more podcast like this . Thanks

[@ahmad-masroor]

prayers for the barakah for both of you. this is not a podcast, its a think tank

[@fashionvella730]

Muzammil is absolutely right. when you move at the higher scale. You get very few students who have a background which help them to get the thing you are providing. Most of the student's background is not enough to get the thing you are providing.

[@Abdul360Rehman]

amazing podcast, Naeem bhai thank you for sharing really great insights about amazon. Thank you for brain stroming on munjan sellers, education system and putting light on what we actually need to learn. long term game

[@kazim353]

Muzzamil...the way you analyze things is absolutely amazing❤

[@murtazaj.bhatti3048]

Thanks for the podcast guys. Muzammil you have to make a direction to your questions. Is this guy a success business story? what has been his impact for Pakistan? two different directions... Some of his past practices are questionable and condemnable but at the same time he proved to be a successful amazon business. Why didn't he go for training other people? it didn't make business sense to him, makes sense. His point that people who did nothing are trainers, is absolutely right. There is a difference between trainer and teacher. The problem is Pakistan is that we want to see an entrepreneurial wave (IT backed/based) everywhere in 2 years. That doesn't work. Businesses are created in decades. We can talk about all other eco systems but not acknowledge that there is a business ecosystem as well. It will take time (a decade), go through waves and cycles, there will be No.1s, 2s, 3s and 4s and so on. There will be big industries and there will be cottage industry. I think the process has begun. There will be learning, failures and success.

[@iftikharulhassanofficial1935]

Naeem is my inspiration and truly a gem. these kind of people are our heroes

[@lifeofacommongirl5040]

Such an amazing podcast... please muzammil bring more podcasts like this....and one more with Naeem too please

[@sohaibali7651]

such a good concepts Muzammil bhai, Its all about long term, your brand is Legacy.

[@siddharth0401]

Muzzamil as always is the best prodcaster of Pakistan, very ethical, progressive and gentleman to the core, love your prodcasts from India, keep up the good job

[@nasreenkausar2945]

Yes Maturity , consistent and persistence leads mastery in skills right Now Naeem Skinder should contribute his experience to Pakistani youth like Muzammal

[@mohsinbhutto5020]

Thanks for this valueable content ❤❤🎉

[@f4SIS]

Naeem having done so many podcasts himself seemed so lost. I was expecting a bit of intellectualism from him. Money cannot buy intellectualism or vision.

[@chmahad4625]

What you say about Naeem in this podcast

[@jjawad1]

Thats the way he talk if you listen to his podcasts.

[@aitzazshah7281]

Well said.

[@hamza77v]

This was ok yar 😕

[@faizanaa4081]

Its 4:45 Am in US and I cant stop listening Muzammil thoughts, his thinking process was beyond. love the way he talk every single word has a meaning. He is an artist of asking questions.

[@umarsheraz2423]

this podcast is more useful than many courses being offered online

[@irfanhelo]

Once again a great Video and deep discussion on roots thoughts.

[@ikrambaig7989]

Excellent video specially your strict and bold behavior.

[@AliHaider-mp8hu]

After a long time someone said what I wished to come out from influencers. Thanks Muzammil

[@JunaidSalehHayat]

This was a good discussion!

[@umershaukat284]

Amazing podcast, no long drive is complete without your podcast, i think the crux of this coversation is our fundamentals are wrong, we chose all the rights things for all the wrong reasons, and the wrong things for the right reason.

[@MuhammadAli......]

I appreciate the concept of Naeem Sikander ✨

[@farazahmad8560]

To answer Muzamil's question. Just like universities where trained teachers teach the course work who are expert in teaching but they maybe not experts in there relevent fields. So universities invite field experts in seminars to give insight on real life experiences. The coaching of freelancing should also works in this manner.

[@msudaiskhan]

It's NOT OK or smart to have three scholarships at a time. And no regret over it. Wow.

[@0chealsea]

That really got me lol. I thought he would admit it's wrong but apparently this is 'street smart'. Like, I get you understand how the system works. But that doesn't mean you topple over others to get an unfair advantage. Doesn't make him any different from the corrupt businessmen or politicians at the end of the day...

[@ejazahmed1001]

He owned whatever he did. May be someday he will realize it wasn’t right. He didn’t lie like the politicians.

[@UsmanAliAwan1]

Easy come, easy go. Wonderfully put.

[@hassanriffat]

Welldone Muzamil & Naeem you are thought leaders! At least many young boys who want to leave degrees and cursing their parents to start a amazon business will have a good lesson from this podcast...welldone Muzamil. "جب تک لالچی لوگ زندہ ہیں نوسرباز کا کاروبار بند نہیں ہو گا" Our University college students dont want due life process as their fathers build in their respective fields, Everybody searching for easy ways of earning...Muzamil you better know how this will change in Pakistan Especially.

[@Sumairaus]

Amazing story…. Listening during my job and i enjoy a lot ..

[@sarmadirfan670]

Naeem bhai and Muzammil are both great.... we are to respect them both 😊

[@drarif00]

So interesting. Actually marketing is manipulating the needs of consumer. Manipulators are always more successful than people working ethically.

[@docubaydigital]

i stand with muzzamil for not making shorts . this will dilute the brand you took a stand

[@najeebnasir]

absolute gem of a podcast

[@arishasif5747]

Love with this boys conversation literally its mind blowing ...

[@talalhaidermuhammad1757]

I do listen to some podcasts once a week. But rarely comment... Bara ajeeb scene lgta hy mjhy wese k Muzammil ya Mooroo type logon k subscribers itny km q, like what is wrong with us. I think more people should come out and show support, Jo bnda sedhi straight simple bat krta hy with facts and logics, usky k lye. And yes anyone can have a different opinion but give solution, or some facts. manjan ni cheye :D Anyways, Big fan of your work Muzammil, great thoughts, great personality, would love to meet someday.

[@angel-ko2rd]

Superb Maa'sha'Allah. Very good knowledge for youngsters. You both did great guys , outstanding podcast. I want to say you something, maybe people will laugh at me , please brothers my request is ,when you come on screen then please don't use bad words please ( don't mind this) thank you.

[@tabiig2874]

Valueable Discussion 💐

[@mdsalikvlogs12]

Wonderful❤ Valuable Knowledge

[@abdulrashid2143]

Great podcast! I studied at the same college and university, Islamian and UETian.

[@MuhammadRizwan-vy7go]

Great muzamal bahi I am 1000% agree with your view.

[@usmanamin7990]

Muzmil bhi nayy buhhhhhhhtttt tuff time diaa naeem bhi ko ...sirf hmee schaii dikhaneyy kay liyee... love you from Faisalabad

[@raafiqsoomro7376]

At what time it started?

[@zaynabdesignz]

Hats off muzamil bhai more power to you✨️✨️

[@user-vr5tn8ts1d]

love you both guys are amazing

[@nomi3536]

Great Podcast in this sector.

[@waqasmaqsood9270]

Muzamil has a good analytical mind... he is 100% ryt... slow n steady with strong bases is the key to a sustainable success...

[@sahilwaquie7446]

Excellent review bro

[@Homeland_Property]

Brilliant podcast ❤

[@yasir3918]

Thanks for podcast

[@tariqyounus571]

Excellent conversation, 👍

[@simplified_101]

Naeem would won mins and hearts if would have said because i regret it and i just to make up and pay back for what i got at that yime, i helped 10 or 100 students to get scholarship or paid for it so when they become something someday, they can continue this chain. but he was brave enough to accept the element of corruption in his personality as default

[@salmanahmedkhan3979]

Awesome Podcast.

[@adilsardar9994]

good questions and ans. i really enjoy interview 2 41minets

[@smh573]

Does someone know the website (forum) Naeem Sikander mentioned where he found the free course and his partner?

[@drarif00]

Teachers are facilitatirs. They show you the way, you have to travel yourself.

[@billapatner]

Muzzamil, you were talking about the problem what went wrong was the simplest thing that you mentioned. These bigger Guys like Enablers and Sunny Ali, had great previous industry knowledge and co-operated with ethical things and norms. But when it went to course selling and making money, they actually stepped down to the part of making technical being available to everyone first. If they have chosen the right path of making ethics, norms, and other factors which in return will not make the money fast the community it would have built for the first 10k would have made a better industry. Talking about the problem statement and how to solve it. Just Take some courses on ethics, and norms, and co-operate working as a first part of course selling. Unless they pass that no technical training will be given. Of course, impossible but that will not save money, and the same applies to the previous one. start issuing a particular batch or course number from where they can be identified as the complete trained person. only then they are equal to international standards but no one will do it as the money game is also slow this way but this is the ultimate need.

[@webstylepress]

2:14:30 Golden Words. Long game. Macro Micro perspective. I vote for another podcast with Naeem Sikandar and starting from 'Long Game' & 'Misguided Incentives'. Also we need to talk about those who are selling BS on youtube about making money online by doing little to no work.

[@fashionaticworld4882]

2 PODCASTERS GEMS 😍😍

[@MuhammadAli......]

Awesome Naeem Sikander ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨

[@webstylepress]

Good good good conversations. I enjoyed this podcast. Great to see we realize and we are identifying problems. But solution nahi hay - at least yet. But always happy to listen to ppl talking about tech and business in a rational, realistic and critical way.

[@talalhaidermuhammad1757]

The thing you said you will not have a success story podcast again, because of the that effect that it pushed people mind to chaka thing was deep 💭. Haven't realise this until you said it. But I still think it really give us a lot of exposure to different aspects of many businesses and life and many other things. May be you should conversation topic and questions or try something else, I don't know, just saying that it also had a positive side.

[@drarif00]

Your argument is valid about ponzi scheme. And working for a balanced model. If you can take 200 students. You can keep 20 students for reduced rate or free from Pakistan. Zakat ka concept hi samajh lein.

[@ahmedabbasi637]

Sorry muzamil but naeem didn't understand your questions and not responded as he supposed to but you had driven the conversation very well.. Naeem mostly do over acting, nor smelling natural.

[@HamzaEjaz-id7me]

I am uetian and proud of you snr

[@Malikshahrukh8823]

Multan waly bhai is sir Tanveer nandla and he goes above and beyond to ensure success. no doubt about that.

[@IFIXAMAZON]

Brilliant conversation, but I suggest the host to question not argue, please and let us decide about the value.

[@ikrambaig7989]

Best of the best video

[@learningcurveinternational]

Naeem and Muzamil while I do appreciate your courage to talk about this bitter reality of our talent running blindly for these fake money making 'munjun', however, with all my due respect brothers, you both have equally contributed to that by inviting and selling the products of stock trading and amazon munjun sellers.

[@adeenbokhari7415]

It's not globally what you said about teachers in the western world....they teach for passion while being successful in their own businesses as well

[@artwillneverend5979]

Thank you so much Naseem for to be honest…

[@laibanoor3928]

Tbt is my fav podcasts. But in every podcast I noticed that Muzamil speaks alot as compared to the guest but in this podcast Naeem was continuously speaking in the start. But when the discussion start about enablers and extreme commerce. Muzamil didn't let him speak.😂

[@saadrao804]

can you please name those persons who are coming again like sunny and saqib?

[@Cantstopwontstopchai]

About e-commerce skindar Bhai said that an update version of course should have a grater value , where EC lacked was after being their boot camp student I can openly say that the free course holds more value than boot camp. 2. About how to do it right? I have a question from you muzamil Bhai, suppose all universites across Pakistan today say that regardless of age , education level fsc A level and a certain passing criteria anyone who can afford and have a big "gurda" can take admission in university what will happen then ? Exactly the same that happened with EC. Still there would be a few who'll ace but success ratio would definitely drop. So first of all there should have been a proper filter. We could maybe have avoided this amz blacklisting spree as well if and only if there had been proper filters placed. Ye sab cheezen lkn tab hoten Hain jab apka "product business " ho. Jab product apka course aur numbers hn tou yei hota hai Jo hua hai.

[@muhammadshehryar2862]

"ALERT" Hi Brother, the voice-over doesn't match your Video. You can also see this mistake in (1:40:36 Can This Even Be Solved?)?

[@AamirKhan-xo3ro]

Can smbdy tell me how to learn and approach Naeem bhai for Amazon learning..

[@hirosheikh4405]

very expensive to get Manufacture & Selling License in Japan but can sell all over the world, Hope Skindar shb can help me out,

[@adnanharaj6639]

as salam o alaikum.......................like always, Muzammil Hassan, strongly agree with the philosophy of the pace with which life , business and everything should roll out, but unfortunately most of the poeple will never get it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,always there to pray for your success....................

[@mylearningforlife]

Very decent discussion, no shouting or typical bad behavior even though there was difference of opinion between both of you. Keep up the learning and critical thinking...

[@usamahussain4737]

Muzammil you are right

[@tabiig2874]

Who is that new guy in market. Which is giving value time & money back guarranty .

[@Targetfans77]

sir Muzamil ma aj pahli dafa ap ka channal per randomly land kar gya laqn qasam kar ka kata hu sir ap ny ankhay khol di meri mugay seriously hila ka rakha dya hai ma gurantee sy ka sakta hu ka agar ko person ap ki video pa land karta hai or us ka pass thori bhoot b samaj hai toh vo ap ka channal subscribe kiye bagir ya ap ki koii video miss karna chaye ga asa possible nahi hai bs apni isi tara effort daltay rahy jo b sunay ga toh ak khals ak mindset lay ka niklay ga thanks a lot

[@Krucezam]

Muzammil bhai ,please podcast critical or analytical thinking bhi karlein

[@salmanshah3527]

Hi, a humble suggestion, please re position your Mics in a way that it does not cover the guests' or your own face. Your content is really great but all your videos have the faces covered. Thanks

[@AliHaiderZaidi96]

1:22:24 Sunny Ali himself sold multiple brands, he only preached PL religiously.

[@ahsantanveer7366]

he didn't sell shit

[@laraibnaeem1654]

such an insightful podcast

[@alihusnain9677]

Thanks, muzzamil, for this podcast. In my opinion, all people, like Enabler and Extreme Commerce, are frauds selling nothing. The guy who was on your podcast said he had sold a lot of books (copy-paste ones). It seems like he was proud, but I think he should be ashamed.

[@mastermemer8351]

Wo time or thaa. Amazon is a nightmare now.

[@user-gy1iv5hc8e]

Zabardast 😊