Dostie gives the low down on Scarpa's long awaited, next generation telemark boot...the TX-Pro for 2025 and beyond.
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@christopherorman57692 ай бұрын
What is the most exciting thing about this video? Is it the review of the new TX Pro? Nope. It is seeing Dostie creating more content. Dostie, I really hope you bring back Earn Your Turns in earnest and if you need community support to keep doing it, please let us know.
@jeffa76622 ай бұрын
We've been waiting for this review to drop. This is the first truly comprehensive 1st look review I've seen. It's good to see you back. Maybe we'll see you at The Harvest this year.
@Snappy-ut4bj2 ай бұрын
Heel yeah! Love Dostie!
@trudelrene-martin81762 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review
@kayakutah2 ай бұрын
I need new boots anyway. Sign me up. I've skied the Tx, Tx Pro, and Comp. The flex of each worked fine for me. The one boot I couldn't get to like was the Crispi Evo and the reason was due to the "tippy-toe" feel that you described. I'm all resort skiing these days, in the Wasatch and a priority for me would be an increase in torsional rigidity. There are times on wider skis where I can feel the boot sole flex in a twisting motion, so any improvement there would be a benefit for my application.
@MikeBanks1Ай бұрын
Thanks for the balanced review Craig. I’m on T1’s with Axl’s on 2. 90% touring. As I’m 60+ been through the evolution from leather on pins through all the plastic boot and binding iterations. Transitions have been challenging but I’ve adjusted. Now dealing with permanent right leg weakness due to nerve damage from 2 herniated discs. I’m trying to prolong my skiing life. Keen to move to a step in binding like Meidjo. Tend to do more p-turns when the leg won’t cooperate. Feel now is the time to transition with this new boot. “Tippy toe” comment has me umming and ahring. Will I hate it?
@EarnYourTurnzАй бұрын
re: hate it? Absotively. At least for awhile. I just don't know how long awhile will be. For me, it absolutely needs a modified, spring loaded walk/turn mode lever. At the least. And/or a brute to break it in for me. LOL. As a P-turn boot it rocks. T-turns will take time to figure out.
@jasonwooden2 ай бұрын
Droooooool 🤤 Take my Money Scarpa!
@AndyGabrysMusic2 ай бұрын
Hey Dostie - id like to see some videos of you flexing the boot in binding as in the rear leg in tele. Use the same binding as you would normally and give us a ski mode and walk mode version - then do a ski mode version with the older tx pros Scotty Hammond did post a video of him flexing the boot in free rides (IIRC) and it certainly looked pretty tippy toe but he didn’t post the same binding with his tx comps to compare. It’s going to help a lot of people see what’s what and guess against their present setups as well. Please - thx.
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
Trying to figure out how to accurately represent and measure that.
@AndyGabrysMusic2 ай бұрын
@@EarnYourTurnz I think a video is going to show it close enough - not asking you to measure it with a ruler or a goniometer. Thanks!
@davemeservy39612 ай бұрын
thank you for this video. do crampons fit any better on these vs previous TX pro?
@skiziskin2 ай бұрын
Scarpa still calls it a 102 but it's shaped a little different with the widest part a little farther back. As you know, I tend to like what you like in a boot. So I don't know about this one yet. I'll have to demo it with my own older liners to have an idea of whether I will buy it. I wonder if you (and I) might be able to ski it with the top buckle on the tour hook. I have Popeye calves so I might be able to make that work. I really like the pretty blue women's boot but don't know if I can make this boot work for me in a 27 and somehow I doubt there will be many women's 27s in Japan.
@ianswopeexhibits5289Ай бұрын
“We can’t telemark without proper equipment?” 😂
@rojahans32 ай бұрын
I would like a boot that weighs half what these anchors weigh…more flex, and way way lighter. Then I’ll buy …I’m talking Ataomic Backland weight, with all the adjustable cuff flex AND a semi soft billow…that’s just me, surfy range of motion that you can tune yourself with a strap and buckle and seriously way less weight, I’d bet Dostie would like that too…
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
Well, half the weight would require unobtainium so I'm not holding my breath. I just want a TX with the ROM in the new TX-Pro and a way to have a soft flexing cuff when in tele mode. More weight than a backland is simply training weight to me. Helps shed the extra weight I wear every day. ;)
@ianswopeexhibits5289Ай бұрын
Try xplore?
@vgaulinАй бұрын
The real question! I telemark T2 Eco and love it for what I do! Should I upgrade???
@EarnYourTurnzАй бұрын
No.
@mikesharp55482 ай бұрын
Thanks Dostie! One question: What are you calling the rear of the lower shell, behind the bellows? Sounds like you are saying "scaffold." Also, a comment: Seems like a stiffer bellows would promote "tippy toe" feeling, which we normally equate to lack of flex, while a softer bellows would promote a more natural flex. Curious for your thoughts on this across other models.
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
It's complicated. I'll work on another vid to address your Qs and a few others here in the same vein. PS: I'm saying scafo - the lower half of the boot, what the cuff and tongue are attached to.
@annas.2272 ай бұрын
Anyone know if the cuff height is lower on the women's version? Or if the liner or last are different? Or is it really just the color...
@alexandermorey19842 ай бұрын
The flex sounds a little like the soft bellows-stiff cuff flex of the Garmont prophet/Scott voodoo. Hopefully, the bellows are stiffer than those.
@oligoneuronic2 ай бұрын
did I hear you correctly? you skied both women and men boot? I'm expecting the common mens sizes to sell out quickly and I wonder if plan b is to buy/order a womens boot (presuming longer lasting inventory)...
@stelucky802 ай бұрын
A lot of testers said there is a nice balance between soft bellow (less soft than actual TX) and boot stiffness... so in your opinion that's not true?
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
How many is lot? I referenced skiers with years of tele experience, but only two. I said what I meant and meant what I said.
@bodurango2 ай бұрын
Is it significantly lighter than the current model? Will that weight difference matter for touring?
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
Any reduction in weight will help with the uphill leg. Equally important is the improvement in cuff range of motion, and a reduction in the flex resistance of the cuff in touring mode. My measurements indicate a reduction of a little over 4oz/boot (mondo 26) compared to a TX. Not huge, but noticeable.
@y404mog2 ай бұрын
So many nice improvements, but... Anyone want to sell a pair of last gen Tx size 27.5/28 in good or very good condition? i wouldn't mind holding an extra pair.
@GEOKID1000Ай бұрын
If you ski the tx comp I don’t think this boot offers the comparable downhill performance .Am I wrong ?
@EarnYourTurnzАй бұрын
Can't honestly say. Are you racing? Aggro? My guess is it does offer comparable downhill performance. TeleTay likes the TX-Comp, and he likes this new boot.
@GEOKID1000Ай бұрын
@@EarnYourTurnz ski all typoes of conditions soft works on powder , not much else ,,, think telietay asked if I had extra tx comp in his size :)
@crawfordcunningham2 ай бұрын
So is Josh going to carry these or what? What's happening with FreeHeel Life?
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
I don't know the details, only that it will be a new chapter for FHL (not chapter 11). 😉 The shop on S. Temple is history.
@bodurango2 ай бұрын
@@EarnYourTurnz What? The shop closed? I'm a Salt Lake tele skier and hate to hear that. Thanks to Josh for making a go of it, and I hope something comes along to replace it.
@theskilawyer2 ай бұрын
Craig, if you had to guess on a flex rating would it be 120+? Any feedback from someone that has 10+ days in the boot regarding break in? As far as further product development and changes - it took Scarpa years for them to release this boot. I wouldn't hold my breath for changes in the next few seasons. This boot and the drive to save grams seems focused on those that are earning turns and the hope that a light tele setup will draw more people to telemark rather than AT. Reality for majority: most of their skiing is in-bounds and maybe a bit of side country resort accessed. Necessitating a thinner liner because of shell volume reduction to save weight sounds like cold feet to me. Would I be able to get an intuition powerwrap in these? Probably not. Stiffer than Comp? Did the testers and people providing development input ski in pow and steeps? I'm in last gen TX Pro and ride X with spring on 1-2. Personally I need a setup that allows for fluid skiing with smooth and fast transitions for skiing steeps and trees where I'm not on the bottom. Stiff boots and Outlaws where the spring is cranked just don't allow for the kind of turns I make. Seems that a lot of tele skiers want this "power" and equate this with stiff gear rather than strong legs and solid technique. Stiff gear and cranked springs - it isn't pretty to watch and it sure as hell doesn't work well in deep pow and steeps. Go ahead and "tele" with stiff setup resulting in straight front leg and tiptoe back and tall stance on consequential 40+ degree slope or bang out turns in steep tight trees. Ugh. I'll accept a bit of extra weight for a sweet flexing boot all day long. Maybe I should buy 2 backup pairs of last gen Pros.
@jasonwooden2 ай бұрын
Re: "Reality for majority: most of their skiing is in-bounds and maybe a bit of side country resort accessed. " Do you have data to back up this observation? If true, it's only because the current offering of porky NTN boots drove the market that direction.
@theskilawyer2 ай бұрын
Data? Cmon. 30 years of observation? What you think the majority of tele skiers go bc?
@jasonwooden2 ай бұрын
@@theskilawyer I''ll see your 30 years of observation and raise it by 10. I mean, we see skiers where we ski. I ski 30% resort and 70% BC, so yes- I see more tele skiers in the BC. Percentages too for sure. I see 10% of all skiers in the BC are tele, maybe 1% on a good day at the resort. Scarpa put a lot of effort into a lighter boot with more ROM, which aims squarely at the BC use case. I'll wager that Scarpa did their research before heading down that path and dumping $1m into molds.
@EarnYourTurnz2 ай бұрын
Same points I've been driving at for years. When you try to please both ends of a spectrum you hit the middle, missing both and satisfying neither.
@theskilawyer2 ай бұрын
@@jasonwooden Regardless of research, does a stiffer than Comp boot make sense skiing BC? Does .45lb/boot diff make enough difference to you that you'd (probably) sacrifice skiing performance and feel and (maybe) have colder feet?
@bodurango2 ай бұрын
Here's another review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6rQe55mnbRkf68 . This guy claims that the boots soften after two months of use . . . and he likes them. If true, that's good news and I'll be buying a pair. Do I really need them? No. Do I want to reward Scarpa for their product development? Yes.