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Easiest 5-0 🏆 of my life with Broken Modern Deck: Bant Nadu | Modern | MTGO

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Andrea Mengucci VEEDEO

Andrea Mengucci VEEDEO

Күн бұрын

Time stamps:
0:00 Intro
1:38 Round1 vs Golgari Midrange
24:31 Round2 vs Bant Nadu
35:54 Round3 vs Jeskai Control
1:10:00 Round4 vs Amulet Titan
1:18:31 Round5 vs Bant Nadu
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2 Teferi, Time Raveler
1 Endurance
4 Nadu, Winged Wisdom
1 Outrider en-Kor
1 Thassa's Oracle
3 Springheart Nantuko
3 Delighted Halfling
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
4 Arboreal Grazer
1 Haywire Mite
1 Dryad Arbor
3 Chord of Calling
4 Summoner's Pact
4 Shuko
1 Springleaf Drum
4 Urza's Saga
1 Lush Portico
1 Shifting Woodland
1 Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Boseiju, Who Endures
3 Khalni Garden
1 Hedge Maze
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Forest
1 Island
1 Temple Garden
2 Breeding Pool
3 Windswept Heath
2 Endurance
1 Drannith Magistrate
1 Soulless Jailer
2 Force of Vigor
2 Dismember
1 Veil of Summer
2 The One Ring
1 Damping Sphere
1 Vexing Bauble
1 Soul-Guide Lantern
1 Boseiju, Who Endures
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@xenonchikmaxxx
@xenonchikmaxxx Ай бұрын
Funny thing - price of Nadu actually dropped after PT. Looks like everyone expects ban
@nickk4247
@nickk4247 Ай бұрын
Shuko probably eats the ban first
@simonecambursano6709
@simonecambursano6709 Ай бұрын
@@nickk4247@nickk4247 the problem with banning Shuko is that, first of all, you could still combo out with equipment that equips at 1, and you still have the white creature, so you nerf it, but not that much. The second problem is that because of Nadu, Wizard cannot print equipment that is at 0. So Nadu should go away at the end of the day. It is just a 5 euro card that is broken in that deck and useless everywhere.
@SaltySparrow
@SaltySparrow Ай бұрын
@@nickk4247 then they are down to one combo instead of 2. I'm hoping they just ban him outright or both combo pieces.
@malte54
@malte54 Ай бұрын
​@@simonecambursano6709 They can print equipments that are 0 mana value, they should just not print equipments that can be equiped for 0. That's bs anyway. Unless it's like leather armor and you can only equip it once a turn. They shoudn't care about not being able to print equipments that equip for 0, because there should not be any of those.
@hugodiazroa
@hugodiazroa Ай бұрын
​@@malte54why?
@JimmyNovacaine
@JimmyNovacaine Ай бұрын
Good thing that splinter twin its banned
@Wiwwia
@Wiwwia Ай бұрын
Dreadmaw level meme. :-)
@nolanpearson211
@nolanpearson211 Ай бұрын
lol in game 1 "do you think nadu is healthy for the format?"..... opponent answers nadu, proceeds to lose the game because of it 🤣
@SaltySparrow
@SaltySparrow Ай бұрын
That match against Amulet Titan G2 where they dismembered your Nadu was a prime example of why Nadu is busted. You presented the ability to search for a combo, he attempts to stop it and you just draw another combo anyway 🤣
@orlandodelvalle9261
@orlandodelvalle9261 Ай бұрын
Happened the first game too
@SaltySparrow
@SaltySparrow Ай бұрын
@@orlandodelvalle9261 lol yeah omg
@rdonagerilefio3616
@rdonagerilefio3616 Ай бұрын
I moved from yugioh to magic modern 3 years ago bc I was bored of t0 decks and watching my oppenents combo of for 15 minutes, also everyone told me it was an eternal format. Then mh2 arrived and broke out lot of things and rotate the format like yugi, but it was still ok (once every 3-4 years it’s fine more or less); then mh3 arrived and now I’m feeling playing yugi but with lands and better artworks. Thank you wizard 😢
@m.wagner7008
@m.wagner7008 Ай бұрын
And all that, only to sell packs
@rdonagerilefio3616
@rdonagerilefio3616 Ай бұрын
@@m.wagner7008 yeah, but the funny thing is that wizard would sell them even without this broken no sense cards lol. Without nadu it would probably be a quite healthy and fun meta, without a completly shift like mh2, so everyone would be happy 🤷🏻‍♂️
@BludMun
@BludMun Ай бұрын
Even more like Yu-Gi-Oh now with the way they power creep. Yugi would power creep with mechanics instead of raw card abilities, now MH3 has done the same thing with energy.
@96samcosmo
@96samcosmo Ай бұрын
I bought Shukos while watching the first rounds of Modern on Saturday. They have just arrived. I am hoping to win my money back at FNM before they get banned.
@gabrielbostic3694
@gabrielbostic3694 Ай бұрын
Mengu! Would it be crazy to do a podcast episode with Javier describing the deck building process for Jeskai Control? I think deck building is a lost art and it would be good to hear your guys' thoughts on it, beyond just the meta game decisions, but also how to get a core and flatten out a good 75!
@ratiotile66
@ratiotile66 Ай бұрын
Nadu combo is both a very dominant deck and an action-heavy non-deterministic combo deck that requires a lot of tracking and an arcane looping win condition. If WOTC still believes in the philosophy behind the bannings of things like eggs, KCI, and even top, I can't imagine this deck sticks around for long.
@lautaromartinez8943
@lautaromartinez8943 Ай бұрын
It's not so fun when the deck its just a 2 card combo with a bunch of tutors but sadly it works, hope they fix it soon so the meta is more fun
@MrWing946
@MrWing946 Ай бұрын
0:04 Those are some major words! you should put nadu aganst 12 post with the cardmarket team to see if it can beat the real best modern deck ever
@cvac0
@cvac0 Ай бұрын
Thumbnail is fabulous!
@Easyaeros
@Easyaeros Ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of people saying the deck isnt that good and there's a "lot" of "counterplay" against the deck these last few days... Genuinely, what counter play is there? It doesnt die to bolt or the new energy bolt, it doesnt die to push without revolt, even if you manage to remove it with dismember or something you STILL get 2 for 1 at best, cause they'll still draw a card that doesnt trigger bowmasters/sheoldred. Really, what counterplay is there??
@SirSilicon
@SirSilicon Ай бұрын
Meddling Mage?
@jbelcaster77
@jbelcaster77 Ай бұрын
@@SirSiliconharsh mentor once nadu has resolved is strong, and blood moon basically shuts off the deck
@KowalewskajA_
@KowalewskajA_ Ай бұрын
I watched the PT and a bunch of Nadu-Gameplay, still here to see that lovely Mengu play our bird overlord ;).
@mallie2057
@mallie2057 Ай бұрын
The biggest problem with this deck is your key combo piece produces value when it is interacted with.
@paulmcclain642
@paulmcclain642 21 күн бұрын
I don’t pretend to be a Nadu expert by any means (I’m watching the video to pick up some strategies). I think in G1 against Jeskai you can bestow your Nantuko on their Phlage then leave a few fetch lands up. That way if they wrath you can fetch and make blockers then have creatures to chord on end step.
@RumpledNutskin
@RumpledNutskin Ай бұрын
I bought my borderless foil Nadus for legacy before the pro tour, and they actually went down after it 😂 #buyhighneversell
@stephenreed83
@stephenreed83 Ай бұрын
I had no problem beating nadu with my humans deck. Meddling mage and harsh mentor shut down nadu and close the door quickly
@Hannibalhd1
@Hannibalhd1 Ай бұрын
I also think that jeskai deck beats nadu. More mainboard dress downs and wrath of the skies game 1.
@henryhalsell8921
@henryhalsell8921 Ай бұрын
did you have any good food in amsterdam? “nope zero” that was my experience too!!!
@Tyler-Black
@Tyler-Black Ай бұрын
That game one made me want to vomit 😂 deck is so broke
@matteotesta282
@matteotesta282 Ай бұрын
Dopo l'eldrazi winter abbiamo avuto l'uccello summer. Banneranno Nadu. Incredibile come ogni MH che dovrebbe essere pensato apposta per modern abbiamo avuto comunque una carta bannata.
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
Non mh2 (hanno bannato fury ma per sbaglio)
@RickHardpack
@RickHardpack Ай бұрын
Do you think they'll actually hit Nadu, or are they going to ban Shuko first?
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
Nadu (pretty sure i say that often on the video)
@James-tk2yl
@James-tk2yl Ай бұрын
I agree re:MH3
@aldeayeah
@aldeayeah Ай бұрын
The first game is beautiful. I need not watch more. Nadu on the draw just shrugged off Thoughtseize, Pithing Needle, Haywire Mite and like five removals between Pushes, Bowmasters and Grist (I lost count).
@gabrielesquaratti5709
@gabrielesquaratti5709 Ай бұрын
BANBANBANBANBANBAN
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
@@gabrielesquaratti5709 bant
@BCfightan
@BCfightan Ай бұрын
What day is the podcast?
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
We record it tomorrow in the end
@BCfightan
@BCfightan Ай бұрын
@@AndreaMengucci nice, thank you! Is it posted same day? Happy Fourth of July Mengu (even tho you don’t celebrate it) 🥳
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ Ай бұрын
WOTC has to sell enough box sets and booster packs first before Nadu gets the ban hammer.
@jamesmcglough5985
@jamesmcglough5985 Ай бұрын
Can someone please explain how the deck is a 2 card combo? Why does the "this ability triggers only twice each turn" not come into play?
@DKazzix
@DKazzix Ай бұрын
Each creature has "ability + THIS ability triggers only twice". That means that every single instance of the ability can be triggered twice, and each creature has a single instance of the ability. That means that if you have N creatures you get 2N triggers (2 for each creature), and each time you generate a new creature (tokens, for example) you can trigger it twice more.
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
Watch the video and you ll find out!
@jamesmcglough5985
@jamesmcglough5985 Ай бұрын
@@DKazzix right so its not a 2 card combo, you need something else. ty
@jamesmcglough5985
@jamesmcglough5985 Ай бұрын
@@AndreaMengucci i am :-)
@DKazzix
@DKazzix Ай бұрын
@@jamesmcglough5985 Yes, it's more like a 2 card engine that more often than not wins you the game on the spot (if you have thassa's oracle)
@m0tachin245
@m0tachin245 Ай бұрын
May be i am wrong but it would not be a better solution to ban namtuko? I see a lot of people that want nadu to be ban but i think the card is fine the problem starts when u find a way to go infinite and that way is namtuko if u ban it i think nadu will be fine and not a broken deck but maybe i am wrong
@mugiwaraguy420
@mugiwaraguy420 Ай бұрын
Scute Swarm does the same thing for 1 more mana. It would slow the deck, but it can still combo the same way
@thonk7611
@thonk7611 Ай бұрын
the problem is undoubtedly the card nadu banning nantuko doesnt stop nadu from just hitting the table and drawing your whole deck. there are other ways to make tiny creatures, and there are other win conditions than infinite loops. banning nadu removes the problem entirely
@boukunmtg8969
@boukunmtg8969 Ай бұрын
I dont understand why in game 3 mengu didnt just win both times when he had mana open, tons of insect tokens and could recast nadu/chord for nadu and win the game re triggering all of his tokens again.
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
Is it because i just pass the turn to attack the turn after? What do you mean by ‘just win’?
@boukunmtg8969
@boukunmtg8969 Ай бұрын
So I didn't realize after watching the whole video this version isn't on thassas oracle. Oops. Actual combo "winning"with this nadu deck on mtgo is miserable. Loop infinite mana tokens and blow up and bounce everything. Sorry brother 😅. Love the content.
@boukunmtg8969
@boukunmtg8969 Ай бұрын
​@@AndreaMengucci I was expecting you in game 3 to cast a 2nd nadu and re trigger all the tokens until drawing thassas but obviously deck isn't playing thassas haha 😅
@andreakevin8685
@andreakevin8685 Ай бұрын
​@@boukunmtg8969Thassa Oracle should win against this deck
@Hannibalhd1
@Hannibalhd1 Ай бұрын
In pro tour, the deck that won the tournament was facing jeskai. It won its second game, but shouldve lost. They destroyed their opponents the one ring, but neither player realized that they still have protection. The nadu player played the sun creature that removes counters, but he couldnt legally targer the jeskai player. So he shouldnt have loss life, nor sh9uld he have loss energy counters. Next turn jeskai player could wrath of the skies and board wipe to stabilize.
@animeexpresscon
@animeexpresscon Ай бұрын
Yep, lots of comments pointed out the lack of a judge for a top 8 game and the play "mistakes" were pretty blaring. Even beyond the game changing one you mentioned, there were others that should have been caught and weren't. The two players in that matchup were friends, but it was still questionable at best.
@GeusGames
@GeusGames Ай бұрын
@@animeexpresscon Judges should not intervene in that, that's a misplay, not an illegal play. If, at the earliest possible moment it would become relevant, you do not announce that you do indeed have protection from everything due to The One Ring, then you have missed your own trigger, that's the rule. So, if you target your opponent with a lightning bolt after they played The One Ring, and they say they have protection, you can untap the land you tapped to pay for lightning bolt and return it to your hand, if they don't say anything and take 3, they just don't have protection.
@animeexpresscon
@animeexpresscon Ай бұрын
1) there were zero judges there for that top 8 series. That, is fucking strange and dumb. How many judges are at an event of that size? 10? 20? And they manage to have 4 games in the top 8 and one of them has no judge on it for the entire 5 games? 2) I am not merely referring to the player illegally targeting the opponent. The "misplays" were rampant. You call an event a "Pro tour" and most people would assume play patterns that are not akin to a couple meth heads sucking each other off. Most people would assume that the judge coverage of the finals would be something vaguely on par with any other competitive event in the history of any sport or competition in the last 100 years. And this on the tail end of what, decades of people being caught cheating on stream at high level WOTC events when the on site judges didn't catch them.
@GeusGames
@GeusGames Ай бұрын
@@animeexpresscon As I said, a judge should not assist a player in playing well, they should only intervene if players commit a games rule violation. If I cast Slickshot Show-Off, cast Mishra's Bauble, sacrifice it, cast Assault Strobe and attack, my opponent bolts it, and I cast Blossoming Defense, they say ok, no blocks and then ask me me how much damage they are taking. Slickshot's triggers are my responsibility because I control the creature, so if I say 18(3 triggers plus +2/+2 puts it as a 9/4, double with double strike) ok, but if I forget about the Bauble trigger, maybe because it costs 0 mana, maybe because it's not an instant nor a sorcery, and say 14, that's not a rule violation, I simply forgot my trigger. There actually was a cheater caught and DQ'ed, because they played Not Dead After all on a 2/3 Nethergoyf in order to save it from Phlage's trigger, but since they had no instants in their graveyard, Nethergoyf would become a 3/4 and not die, therefore not getting the Wicked token, they instead played Not Dead After All, tapped Nethergoyf and attached a Wicked token to it. This IS a rule violation, and it was determined that it was both deliberate and that they knew it was a rule violation, therefore they were punished for cheating.
@animeexpresscon
@animeexpresscon Ай бұрын
@@GeusGames So its picking up your opponents deck, unprompted, and shuffling it NOT a rules violation? Fucking absurd that happened at all in any game without a warning issued. BTW not referring to cracking a fetch and presenting your deck for shuffle. Talking about the nadu player literally unprompted no, fetch, nothing picking up the jeskai player's deck and shuffling. I don't care if there was no clear motive other than being a meth head. That should not be allowed regardless of what the players allow.
@bigwig8657
@bigwig8657 Ай бұрын
I think Hogaak was much stronger, just Leyline of the Void exists, Hogaak was like a full turn faster and neither deck really interacts. Leyline being the most played card in main decks is the most warped the formats ever been.
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
If your deck has weak points then it s weaker overall
@christophersalvatore1631
@christophersalvatore1631 Ай бұрын
Mengu I love your videos but Nadu is so boring to watchhhhh. Still going to watch it because you are the best, but can’t wait for this one to go
@nickandrade7917
@nickandrade7917 Ай бұрын
Ban Nadu!
@mikekenny1698
@mikekenny1698 Ай бұрын
Hogaak was the most broken deck, that or Phoenix
@potion5682
@potion5682 Ай бұрын
These thumbnails lol
@julius333333
@julius333333 Ай бұрын
omg nadu is two times per creature with the ability? that's so stupid. I thought it was overall, for all your creatures. They should have made it overall.
@johnathonhiner3015
@johnathonhiner3015 Ай бұрын
Smoking crack while testing....doesn't bode well....
@addictedtomints9433
@addictedtomints9433 Ай бұрын
I hope when they ban nadu they dont forget about commander.
@elitemagikarp4822
@elitemagikarp4822 Ай бұрын
wizards doesn't control the banlist for commander
@astrograph7875
@astrograph7875 Ай бұрын
Nadu isn't that bad in commander. It's mainly modern where he's the issue.
@joshua_lee732
@joshua_lee732 Ай бұрын
Sorry Mentu, i find this deck incredibly boring to watch so Im just gonna comment and move on.
@jamuster
@jamuster Ай бұрын
I dont know about most broken deck ever. I think that title still belongs to hogaak.
@leandrogripp1251
@leandrogripp1251 Ай бұрын
I feel like it's a tricky one. If left unchecked, absolutely. Mtg goldfish made a video pitching nadu agaunst hogaak and hogaak trashed nadu, since nadu wasn't playing grave hate. However, it's easier to have hogaak counterplay through grave hate, but nadu counterplay has been hard to find, as chord has been so flexible.
@jamuster
@jamuster Ай бұрын
@@leandrogripp1251 Exactly. Hogaak played with 3 banned cards and you could even see Hogaak out pace Nadu with ease. Additionally there were no new additions to the Hogaak deck from the sets that have been printed/added since meaning its not even at its best version. Looking at the banned list, maybe there are a couple cards to help Nadu, I still do not think it would offset the balance. Looking at win rates, other decks like dredge, storm and hollow one were all utilizing the graveyard and faithless looting during the time of Hogaak. I think Hogaak had the more difficult meta game to battle through versus Nadu.
@blazetrinity9462
@blazetrinity9462 Ай бұрын
Nadu ? More like "Nah dude" lol. Jokes aside, the deck is seriously crazy powerful, it is so hard to interact with without losing value. I would be surprised if they ban shuko instead of Nadu.
@richurro20
@richurro20 15 күн бұрын
Day 1,654 of asking WOTC to unban Mox Opal
@Vermilio893
@Vermilio893 Ай бұрын
This nadu deck is very powerful, but players were extremely unprepaired at the pro tour. Granted, you don't have many good tools to hate Nadu. Felt like everyone had 10 sideboard cards for ruby storm instead because hating it is easy as pie. Hogaak is the more powerful deck imo but it didn't perform to the same standard as Nadu because people had 10 sideobard cards against Hogaak. Also I think Nadu gameplay is much more interactive and interesting than Hogaak gameplay. Right builds of Boros, Jeskai and monoblack all have a decent fighting chance against nadu but most pre-MH3 decks are pretty helpless against it. The meta might become too narrow for a format like modern, so it will probably get banned but I would prefer unbanning 10 cards instead
@TheBigIntellectual
@TheBigIntellectual Ай бұрын
Hogak is worse IMO
@XsumerianX
@XsumerianX Ай бұрын
Hogaak is easier to hate on for sure. But if you put these decks against each other my money is on hogaak.
@Gacek130
@Gacek130 Ай бұрын
Some1 compared the stats of both and so far Nadu has higher winrates
@TheBigIntellectual
@TheBigIntellectual Ай бұрын
@XsumerianX you had Graveyard hate or you lose on turn 2 or 3 period
@reyny2118
@reyny2118 Ай бұрын
Hoogak is better in Game 1, but with sideboard games Nadu is better
@AndreaMengucci
@AndreaMengucci Ай бұрын
Hogaak was 1/8 of top8 pt barcelona and 54% win rate vs 5/8, 4/4 pt amsterdam and 59% win rate, better comparizon would be pt eldrazi but i still think nadu was more dominant
@Hannibalhd1
@Hannibalhd1 Ай бұрын
Also no need to ban the bird. Ban shuko. Its other outlets arent as easily tutored, nor as cost effective.
@codyhumble7855
@codyhumble7855 Ай бұрын
"The most broken deck of all time" ... cmon man you know better than that. You're just salty about losing to a broken deck. Don't stoop to that level. You're better than that. This is just a worse cephalid breakfast deck... but in modern. I mean, is this deck more broken than vintage decks? No, you're saying relative to the format. I disagree - I think Hogaak was more broken, considering certain spells were not printed yet. Also relative to the formats they're in, Nadu's combo win is FAR MORE interactable given the Modern Format card pool than the Saheeli combo deck was in standard with their card pool, and the ubiquitous deck was the deck that ran the only good ways to interact with that combo. The problem nadu poses is the same problem every modern deck poses: you CAN beat me, but if you do, what else do you beat? Ruby Storm is good against most of the rest of the format excluding nadu, for example, and you know that tournament deck choice boils down to what deck you think gives you the best chance of winning. You've probably heard it said that if you think a deck is broken, you should play it - demonstrate that it should be banned by winning everything with it. Maybe that would be a good choice. They can always choose to ban nadu as an emergency ban. EDIT: sorry for being wrong about your deck choice, which led to my 'hot take' - Def Nadu needs to be banned, even if it's beatable. Beatable decks can still be ban worthy.
@killemdeader1189
@killemdeader1189 Ай бұрын
the deck had positive wr vs every other deck in the format despite being a target. the idea mengu is "salty" when most people playing the deck also said it was busted is silly. like, simon nielsen won the PT with it and he was still like "this deck is getting banned lol"
@yScribblezHD
@yScribblezHD Ай бұрын
"If you think a deck is broken, you should play it". Was it not sufficient to got 4/4 in top 4 and a near 60% WR in the PT? I'm not even saying what should or shouldn't be banned, just saying by your logic I'm not sure what would demonstrate a ban is needed if the PT results didn't.
@codyhumble7855
@codyhumble7855 26 күн бұрын
@@yScribblezHD No, one major tournament doesn't do a good enough job or proving that this is "the most broken deck of all time", even if it is the pro tour. Also, I didn't know this at the time of my original comment, but Andrea Mengucci DID bring Nadu to the tournament, but dropped out after 4 rounds. I mean Standard Mardu Vehicles in 2016/17 took 6 of the top 8 slots in a Pro tour once, and was SERIOUSLY dominating every major tournament leading up to the pro tour, simply because it was the best deck at beating the Saheeli Combo deck that ended up getting a ban. I mean seriously, If PT MH3 had a repeat and people knew what they know now, I bet there'd be some monster Nadu beater deck that would suddenly get played tremendously if Nadu went on without a ban. Sometimes a deck needs to be banned even if it's beatable, and Nadu is one of those cards. Besides, mr big britches, I never said it wasn't ban worthy, I just was taken aback by the (not so, but I thought they were) apparent contradictions in Mengucci's actions, since I was under the impression he was going to take some version of psychic frog/Murktide to the tournament, and didn't check before I commented. Next time try to understand what the person is trying to convey instead of just picking out one element of my argument and making a new argument around that one thing, especially when you misunderstood what I was saying. Nadu IS just a worse cephalid breakfast deck, but modern doesn't have the tools to compete with that like legacy does, and ceph breakfast has won lots of tournaments in legacy. I was arguing how broken Nadu is in comparison to the most broken decks of all time, as the clickbaity title suggested.
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