This is by far the best video I have seen on in the field sharpening. Thank you.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks!
@Lars15409 жыл бұрын
Well said William. I completely agree with your logic. Makes complete sense.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks
@dennisleighton28122 жыл бұрын
Thank G ...oodness! Some common sense for a change! I have been ranting about this for ages on KZbin, so it's nice to feel vindicated. The only thing I differ about is this: One CAN sharpen the Scandi in the field, but chances are it won't be a Scandi by the time you're done (as you rightly point out). In fact I'd go so far as to say even in the workshop many would find it very difficult to sharpen a Scandi PROPERLY. So for me this is THE most difficult. [The knife you showed has a very nice even curve, so that makes it easier, but many Scandis have a straight edge for 2/3 of the length then a sharp sweep curve up to the tip. This creates all sorts of issues to keep it exactly flat round that curve, even for a seasoned knifemaker. I doubt I'd be able to do it consistently perfectly. In the field, I'd say it's highly unlikely it could be done properly,] BTW, you don't mention hollow grind blades, but they do fit into the same category as the flat/sabre grinds. Convex grinds are difficult but a bit mare forgiving of small errors, unlike Scandi. Thanks again William for your explanation.
@jamesgreen45229 жыл бұрын
I agree with your thinking to a point. In the field I only worry about a sharp edge and do not worry about the profile. I can repair the profile when I get back home.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
james green Appreciate the view and comment.
@kullcraven9 жыл бұрын
I have used a stone many times on my bush point . It works well. you made alot of sense and good info. Thanks for sharing.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Kullcraven Bushcraft Very welcome. Appreciate the view and comment.
@PREPFORIT9 жыл бұрын
Very good info for maintaining a good edge.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
PREPFORIT Thanks!
@TrailWright9 жыл бұрын
As a novice knife person very enlightening, thanks!!
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Bob Cotter Very welcome. Appreciate the view and comment.
@PrimalOutdoors9 жыл бұрын
Very useful information thank you. Jason
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Primal Outdoors Thanks Jason.
@rickgroshong2509 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, sir.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Rick Groshong My pleasure....well most of the time it was. Thanks!
@commonsensecamper9 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Very well done!
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Common Sense Camper Thanks!
@MarkRuslinzski5 жыл бұрын
Great video William
@SoapAcademy5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your explanation.
@jerrymorris15279 жыл бұрын
Great explanation William. Are the old Arkansas stones any good in your opinion?
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Jerry Morris They are fine just watch the surface of the stone and see how it is wearing. All natural materials will wear with use. Appreciate the view and comment.
@Wingman1159 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining..
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
***** Welcome, appreciate the view.
@drcsep9 жыл бұрын
GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO WC. GRACIAS
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Carlos Sepulveda Thanks!
@423alonso9 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you brother....
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
423alonso Appreciate the view and comment.
@JBCaudillKnives9 жыл бұрын
Yep, a perfectly flat stone and a perfect technique to sharpen a scandi. I'd say they are plenty of knives that used to be scandi and after sharpening is something other than a scandi. I like my thin flat grinds too William.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
James Bradley Nothing like a thin flat grind. Appreciate the view and comment.
@AguyInaus9 жыл бұрын
Another really helpful presentation. Obvious once you point it out.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Aguy Inaus Thanks!
@AguyInaus9 жыл бұрын
A pleasure.My son and I really enjoy our videos and are saving up to buy one of those wonderful knives you make......
@brindle20099 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
brindle2009 Welcome!
@paulie4x18 жыл бұрын
Say Heah William, So on the Master Woodsman, Eventually the Master Woodsman would end up with a micro Bevel even on the Scandi part of the blade right ? But that will also make a Scandi Grind stringer too, Right ?
@wcknives8 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't get a micro bevel unless you do not follow the same angle. Micro bevels is a bevel that is made intentionally.
@paulie4x18 жыл бұрын
Oh, I see, That makes sense. Yes I change angles on my micro's that's right.
@drcsep9 жыл бұрын
William. What's your preference bench type knife sharpening stone? Grit? Brand name? It would be helpful if you could provide a video discussing the difference among grits and stones. Gracias
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Carlos Sepulveda I did a few months back. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6Cuq4d-ppiLa6M
@paulie4x18 жыл бұрын
Say Heah William, Thanx, Good vid. ,, .
@05generic9 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks. Wouldn't a hollow grind with a secondary/micro bevel fall into the easy category?
@bwillan9 жыл бұрын
05generic I would think any knife grind that has a secondary/micro bevel will fall into the easier to sharpen category. I put a secondary bevel on one of my mora knives for this reason. It touches up really quick with a couple strokes on my ceramic honing rod.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
05generic Yes it would. I just don't have any. Appreciate the view and comment.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
bwillan Yes a micro secondary bevel on a scandi does strengthen the edge and allows for easier touch up in the woods. Problem occurs when you need more than just a touch up. Appreciate the view and comment.
@sdsrider4life9 жыл бұрын
With the exception of scandi(and a lot of good puukko makers put a microbevel on them) full flat with a small secondary edge is a breeze even very alloyed steel (A11 10v ect) is a breeze to sharpen when very little material needs removed ... lots of folks have a bear if a time because there sharpening blades that left the factory crowbar thick behind the edge
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Derick Puff Yep, I discuss blade edge geometry in many of my videos, in fact I did it in one a few days ago, and also show how to put a micro edge on a scandi in my "How I sharpen a Scandi" video. Appreciate the view and comment.
@mistermatsuda8 жыл бұрын
Even if you have a proper sharpening stone, the FF would be easier to sharpen than the Scandi once you know what you're doing. People think Scandi because they only have to follow the bevel for alignment but actually hitting the whole bevel at belly to tip is a pain. Once you get used to sharpening at a 15, 20, 25 degree angle on an FF, you'd breeze through the task and it will save a lot of time, stone material and it will be sharper because all things being equal and made right, it should be the thinner of the 2.
@wcknives8 жыл бұрын
I agree, appreciate your view and thoughts.
@nickd24586 жыл бұрын
People chose scandi bc of blade geometry it is designed to remove massive amounts of material with ease..I have ff..saber..fc..scandi vex...but...I think the real lesson in people should take away from this video is don’t EVER go into the woods bc..wtf...you just do...I mean it’s like $15 for a pocket stone...
@pauledmonds7316 Жыл бұрын
THANK GOODNESS!! I have really wondered why it is that 'bushcraft' knives always have scandi grinds and Bushcrafters seem to insist on them, saying that they are easier to sharpen. Yeah, I will accept that they are likely to be fairly easy to sharpen..... but in the field? I have surmised that most bushcrafters are only ever out in the wilds for, at the most, a few days at a time and so they sharpen up at home before they go, and resharpen when they get home. But suppose you're out longterm? A full-size wetstone is going to be a lot of extra weight to carry, and where are you going to find a perfectly flat and stable surface to place your stone AND keep it steady?? The likelyhood is that you will only be carrying a small hand-held stone. My conclusion, from experience and a purely practical standpoint, is that scandis are NOT the most practical knife to take out into the field. I have found that flat and hollow grinds are the best, easiest to sharpen, and most practical knives to have with you in the wild. Thanks for an excellent and informative video.
@ChrisWilkesSurvival9 жыл бұрын
Why not demonstrate with river rocks? Wouldn't keeping the knife stationary and working the rock mean a scandi could be sharpened with a small stone? I almost exclusively use rods to sharpen.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
Chris Wilkes Did not have any river rocks to demonstrate with. Also finding a flat one would have been an impossible task around here. Rods are fine. Rod is round but the sharpening stroke surface is flat. Appreciate the view and comment.
@MotoJunkie235 жыл бұрын
You don't need anything "soft" to sharpen a convex knife. A convex edge is the most natural way of sharpening anything. If you take anything and grind it against a rock you will get a convex edge because of the natural rocking motion your hands will make. Since the stone age any sharp tool has had a natural convex edge. Try taking a chunk of anything and grinding it against a rock until its sharp and see what you get. I'll give you a hint, it won't be a full flat grind, it won't be scandi, it won't be sabre, and it sure as hell won't be hollow ground. It will naturally be a convex grind.
@wcknives5 жыл бұрын
Only if you use a rocking motion as you stated or if your stones are not perfectly flat. If you do not use a rocking motion, trained properly and keep good flat stones, I prefer diamond coated metal ones, then yes you will keep a perfect V grind. Have a perfect V grind still on all my knives and they have been sharpened by hand for a long time.
@MotoJunkie235 жыл бұрын
@@wcknives I'm not saying you can't keep a v edge with stones, of course you can. But it takes more skill and concentration to keep the blade at that exact angle no matter what stone you use. You implied in the video that you can't sharpen a convex grind with a normal wet stone or just a stone found in the river because it has to be soft. That is not at all correct. It's much easier to sharpen convex on any stone than any other grind or edge geometry. Due to the natural hand motion.
@wcknives5 жыл бұрын
MotoJunkie23 for me it is more difficult to learn the rocking motion to keep a convex edge with stones. So I think it depends on the individual skill and how they were trained. Yes I have a video on how to rock a stone to sharpen a convex with stones.
@MarkRuslinzski5 жыл бұрын
Hi William, Mark here, i watched your video atleast 5 times and now understand so a saber grind would be my go to and let me ask i could use a pull sharpener on that am i right or wrong ?
@wcknives5 жыл бұрын
For most knives. Depends on the edge angle. The industry standard is 22.5 degree bevel for the cutting edge and the pull sharpeners are designed for that angle. My knives are 11.5 for better cutting and control. Pull sharpeners will not work with my knives.
@franotoole27024 жыл бұрын
You can but the problem with pull sharpeners is that they tend to make uneven bevels and remove alot of steel compared to a stone. You rarely have to sharpen a knife. Only if its damaged or the edge rolled. But you strop little and often to maintain an edge. Remember everytime you sharpen your knife you remove steel, therefore shortening the size of your knife.
@scottsmith65716 жыл бұрын
What sharpening stone do you recomind
@wcknives6 жыл бұрын
My favorite brand and most used stone. www.knifecenter.com/item/EZLCD4/EZE-LAP-Super-Fine-DiamondCeramic-Combination-Pocket-Stone-with-Sheath
@paulie4x18 жыл бұрын
Say Heah William, What about a High Scandi Grind, remember, we're talking in a emergency survival situation. , That's why a DC 4 or a DC 3 are easy to carry, and can be carried on the sheath. But a smooth river stone in a emergency, so it won't be a scandi but more like a Saber ?
@wcknives8 жыл бұрын
+paulie 4x My point was if you loose your sharpening equipment. What then?
@paulie4x18 жыл бұрын
Got it.
@dragon38315 жыл бұрын
In time though, you will need to reprofile the saber and full flat which you can't do in the field either
@wcknives5 жыл бұрын
dragon3831 if you can find a flat enough rock you can.
@wcknives5 жыл бұрын
dragon3831 concrete block or brick work great if they are in field.
@protoyz74059 жыл бұрын
i use a spyderco double stuff in the field. i can prolly touch up all edges you showed with that...
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
pro Toyz I was responding to someones question about using natural sources found in the wilds such as a river rock if you were to loose your sharpening equipment. Appreciate the view and comment.
@protoyz74059 жыл бұрын
ok, i totally agree with your opinion then. if you had to resort to natural resources you could still microbevel the other grinds as your last option.
@josephsi69267 жыл бұрын
Basically they are all the same to sharpen with a rock but they will all get convexed.
@wcknives7 жыл бұрын
Joseph SI don't agree for the reasons stated in the video but appreciate your view.
@josephsi69267 жыл бұрын
William Collins I'm not an expert by any means. Just what my brain put together. Really like the style of your videos and knives! Thank you
@ThePatriot4freedom9 жыл бұрын
agreed
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
ThePatriot4freedom Thanks!
@RcFlyer499 жыл бұрын
Hard to disagree with that logic.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
PiperCub49 Thanks!
@jamesaritchie29 жыл бұрын
I flatten my sharpening stones every week. Doesn't everyone? And that is NOT know any of the experts I know sharpens a convex. And doesn't everyone take their own sharpening stones into the wilderness with them? Everyone I know does. For that matter, there are other ways to sharpen a knife using a river stone other than long strokes like that. At least three other very good techniques, and perhaps more that I don't know. We'll just have to disagree, I guess. I haven't found it difficult at all to keep any knife razor sharp in the wild, even with river stones. You just have to know more than one technique. So I take the edge I most like, not the edge that's "easiest" to sharpen. I hate micro bevels on most knives. They're unnecessary, and don't give you full advantage of all the blade can do. Scandi and convex are both ridiculously easy to maintain in the field, even with river rocks, and no other edge approaches these two for most uses.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
James Ritchie That is wonderful to know. Wish you would do a video on how this is done with river stones. Just goes to show everyone can learn something new. Appreciate the view and comment.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
James Ritchie Also this was in response to someones question in a forum. Question was, if you lost your sharpening equipment in the wilds which grind was the easiest to maintain using materials available? The person asking the question specifically mentioned river stones. Sorry I thought I was clear on this in the video.
@wcknives9 жыл бұрын
William Collins Let me explain as I stated in the video you can sharpen any grind using river stones. The problem is to resharpen some grinds like true scandi's and convex grinds without changing the grind. The difficulty was finding flat stones to maintain a true scandi edge.