Eastern Orthodoxy explained in 1 minute

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Redeemed Zoomer

Redeemed Zoomer

3 ай бұрын

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@ObliviAce
@ObliviAce 3 ай бұрын
Eastern Orthodoxy is quite an intellectual faith though. It just puts more emphasis on the mystical
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 3 ай бұрын
it isn't anti-intellectual, it just does less academic theology than the West does
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 3 ай бұрын
It sometimes is deeply suspicious of intellectuality. Look at how they have this narrative of "Latin Captivity", rejecting what the orthodox thought during the modern age because it's too catholic. Or sometimes focusing more on liturgical customs than in truth claims during debates with catholics
@ObliviAce
@ObliviAce 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 That's fair.
@VictorPanteleimon
@VictorPanteleimon 3 ай бұрын
​@redeemedzoomer6053 perhaps the reason for that is because it isn't in a majority? Secondly, you might find less academic research in orthodox theology in western languages compared to when you use the languages where Orthodoxy is the majority.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 3 ай бұрын
It sometimes is outright irrational in its arguments, they don't care whether their arguments make sense or not. The other day I saw an orthodox saying "they say the Pope is the Vicar of God, but a Vicar only exists if the Master is dead". I refuted it and instead of answering my refutation the dude just ignored it in his answer. They don't care about intellectuality
@SgtPiper
@SgtPiper 3 ай бұрын
Ex Non denominational Christian who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy Greatest Decision i made in my life im going to be received into the church may
@billytheconqueror5803
@billytheconqueror5803 3 ай бұрын
What did you convert to?
@SgtPiper
@SgtPiper 3 ай бұрын
@@billytheconqueror5803 My bad Orthodoxy lol will edit comment
@wild_burn
@wild_burn 3 ай бұрын
I think that we can all agree that any denomination is better than non-denomination (Baptist)
@SgtPiper
@SgtPiper 3 ай бұрын
@@wild_burn Better then 7th day adventist though there borderline Arians
@zeropointomega545
@zeropointomega545 3 ай бұрын
@@wild_burndo explain. I’m a Catholic and I wanna mess with my non-denominational co-workers😂
@machinotaur
@machinotaur 3 ай бұрын
I think the mystical aspect of Orthodoxy comes from humility, the recognition that some things can't be known by us, no matter how many theories and systems we create.
@Acehalo2
@Acehalo2 2 ай бұрын
Well said!!!
@KevinBullard
@KevinBullard Ай бұрын
Nailed it
@shadyboltbandit3302
@shadyboltbandit3302 3 ай бұрын
As a Roman Catholic, I find the Eastern Orthodoxy teachings quite fascinating, and they definitely have it figured out by just embracing the mystery of our Lord, which is something I wish could just do. God bless my Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters.🙏✝️❤️☦️☺️
@anahirodriguez6726
@anahirodriguez6726 3 ай бұрын
Have you checked out the Byzantine rite of the Catholic Church??
@shadyboltbandit3302
@shadyboltbandit3302 3 ай бұрын
@@anahirodriguez6726 Don’t think I have.
@AutisticPsychologist
@AutisticPsychologist 3 ай бұрын
orthobros are very toxic. They also love their man made traditions and James 2 when the Bible says its faith Alone which saves and NOT WORKS. You can't lose salvation. Add any works to grace and its no more grace. Jesus said He won't lose anybody the Father gives Him. I'm Greek american I know about orthodox ppl in real life too. Not my style.
@somerandomguyonyt8766
@somerandomguyonyt8766 3 ай бұрын
I’m glad to see so many people who are converting or looking into converting to orthodoxy ☦️ 😊 I wish you all a blessed lent so that we all may better keep in our hearts the Paschal grace
@radagon8596
@radagon8596 2 ай бұрын
I will be more for the unification of catholics, orthodox and ethiopians into one churche
@Jesse_75
@Jesse_75 3 күн бұрын
Just made the decision to start the journey of joining the Orthodox Church. I feel like this will be one of my greatest decisions. ☦️
@aleksajankovic3461
@aleksajankovic3461 3 ай бұрын
Bro has personal beef with Orthodoxy.
@seraphimdunn
@seraphimdunn 3 ай бұрын
I did too. A lot of converts come to the Church after fighting against Orthodoxy. Hopefully, one day RZ will go back through his debates with Kyle and Jay Dyer and see how poorly Calvinism compares to Orthodoxy.
@toboioioioioioioioioioioio7966
@toboioioioioioioioioioioio7966 3 ай бұрын
After the debate with jay dyer and kyle he got butthurt
@pedroguimaraes6094
@pedroguimaraes6094 3 ай бұрын
Probably because a lot of Orthobros are annoying him online and thinking that by doing that they will make him convert. If you google 'Orthobro", you will see tons of conplainings about orthodox Christians behavior online.
@Shiranui115
@Shiranui115 3 ай бұрын
I don't think it's even necessarily that, it's just that it's hard to imagine two Christian traditions more diametrically opposed than the Reformed tradition and Orthodoxy.
@Nia-uj1ch
@Nia-uj1ch 3 ай бұрын
​@@pedroguimaraes6094Orthodox here. A lot of those orthobros most times aren't really orthodox people but people who pretend to be. And some of them are newly converts who couldn't put their protestant past behind ( i have come across many protestants who they like to fight and belittle you). Im a cradle Orthodox (raised to the faith from a young age) and i don't see the need to harass anyone. I will tho correct people who say inaccurate things that most of the time derive from poor bible translations. Greek language isn't easy to translate in English and lots of words have various meanings depending on the context of a sentence and the time in history that the word was used. So depending on the bible anyone has there might be significant differences that causes confusion. The Internet is not the best place to meet orthodox people. If you want to know how we really behave visit an Orthodox church and you will see the difference irl.
@Sophia_at_MIA
@Sophia_at_MIA 3 ай бұрын
“The Orthodox don’t like to be too intellectual” ughhhh I’m banging my head against my desk. St. John Chrysostom, an Orthodox Saint, wrote what can be considered the first book of systematic theology, but go off I guess. 🙄
@LordMicahBroch
@LordMicahBroch 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, not like what was considered "Orthodox" was way different back then
@Soviet.Christian
@Soviet.Christian 3 ай бұрын
He also would be called a saint by Lutherans. Is he now a lutheran saint? It's important to know the theology today. Many denominations claims that the church fathers were actually like them
@catnappernellie1211
@catnappernellie1211 3 ай бұрын
And then nothing was ever written again, Easter orthodox theology stagnated, long ago. You can’t pretend that eastern academic tradition even holds a candle to the west
@allfleshisgrass.
@allfleshisgrass. 3 ай бұрын
@@Soviet.ChristianJohn Chrysostom believed in Sola Fide. Read his commentary on Galatians. You would think he was Luther.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 3 ай бұрын
Point at intellectual theology in orthodoxy after the Schism and outside the "Latin Captivity"
@gardomedia
@gardomedia 3 ай бұрын
Just converted to Orthodoxy. Hallelujah. I confess that Jesus Christ is the son of god and that he was crucified, died for our sins and rose back from the dead!☦️
@GodSurelyBlessYou
@GodSurelyBlessYou 3 ай бұрын
Welcome home!
@AutisticPsychologist
@AutisticPsychologist 3 ай бұрын
orthobros are very toxic. They also love their man made traditions and James 2 when the Bible says its faith Alone which saves and NOT WORKS. You can't lose salvation. Add any works to grace and its no more grace. Jesus said He won't lose anybody the Father gives Him. I'm Greek american I know about orthodox ppl in real life too. Not my style.
@AutisticPsychologist
@AutisticPsychologist 3 ай бұрын
​@@GodSurelyBlessYouur name just shows how cringe and toxic orthodox are and catholics online.
@Alex-0908
@Alex-0908 3 ай бұрын
Amen.
@serb9814
@serb9814 3 ай бұрын
Welcome brother ☦️
@evertaj2438
@evertaj2438 3 ай бұрын
Converted to Eastern Orthodoxy from dutch Reformed Calvinism. Best decision in my life. I will never be going back. Christos Anesti!
@az694
@az694 3 ай бұрын
Verrader! 😁😆 Nee begrijpelijk! Het zijn er steeds meer!
@dove5591
@dove5591 3 ай бұрын
Works can not save you 😶
@julenkaev
@julenkaev 3 ай бұрын
Kyrie Eleison!!!Glory to God
@fidyy_
@fidyy_ 3 ай бұрын
Αληθώς ο Κύριος!!
@YoshiokaTsuyoshi
@YoshiokaTsuyoshi 3 ай бұрын
@@dove5591 Yeah we Orthodox don't believe works can "save us", we don't "work our way up" to salvation, it is God in His mercy who saves us when we accept it by aligning our will with His, this is in the gospels.
@Th3rtySe7en
@Th3rtySe7en 3 ай бұрын
{1 John 4:16} N.K.J.V. : ”And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.“
@King_Leonidas723
@King_Leonidas723 3 ай бұрын
Since god love is infinite you can’t possibly understand infinite because it’s not defined and anything you think it is it’s more. You can only know his energy, his characteristics.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 3 ай бұрын
​@@King_Leonidas723Unpopular opinion: the characteristics of God are his Essence because he can't be God without them, so they must be identical to the Divine Essence. His Power, his Intellect, his Will, his Omnibenevolence, his Mercy, his Love, his Justice etc all identical to the Divine Essence
@King_Leonidas723
@King_Leonidas723 3 ай бұрын
@@igorlopes7589 His energies is just the characteristics of his essence, since infinite isn’t a number you can’t even possibly put a label on how great he his, but since you can still know god you can know what those characteristics are (his energys).
@matheusmotta1750
@matheusmotta1750 Ай бұрын
​@@igorlopes7589God's Energies emanate from His Essence.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 Ай бұрын
@@matheusmotta1750 What do you even mean by energies? His Actions? His attributes? Both? Because on the issue of the attributes all of them are essential for God to be Who He is, so the attributes must be God's Essence necessarily
@reminder9146
@reminder9146 3 ай бұрын
You just converted me to Orthodoxy.
@randnew2900
@randnew2900 3 ай бұрын
Dude, a lot of what he describes in the video isn't unique to Eastern Orthodoxy. Also the "Filioque" debate is sooo duuumb. It's just 2 sides saying the same thing with different words & I find it silly how Zoomer uses THAT as the defining difference. Really, the key difference is ecclesiology.
@reminder9146
@reminder9146 3 ай бұрын
@@randnew2900 The Orthodox would disagree.
@randnew2900
@randnew2900 3 ай бұрын
@@reminder9146 I"d love to hear another perspective
@reminder9146
@reminder9146 3 ай бұрын
@@randnew2900 They are not hard to find. You could also just wander into an Orthodox church. That's an option too. A KZbin comment section is a rough place to have such a conversation. "The errors of the Catholics" is a decent video to start with.
@meina0614
@meina0614 3 ай бұрын
@@randnew2900idk. Filioque seems to suggest hypostatic procession of the holy spirit from the father AND the son. Sounds like a big deal and change from the perspective of other churches that claim apostolic succession.
@vexxshades2004
@vexxshades2004 3 ай бұрын
Meeting with an orthodox priest this Friday. Finally a church that puts emphasis on what I read and believed to be the core message of our lords teachings. It’s ironic I say finally, because it’s the original church, but finally arrived into my life.
@Patrichor777
@Patrichor777 3 ай бұрын
Θέωσις (Theosis) is the meaning of life.
@kostafilipovic8488
@kostafilipovic8488 3 ай бұрын
I'm Eastern Orthodox☦️.Thank you❤❤❤
@phillipdino6
@phillipdino6 3 ай бұрын
The name of the game for us Orthodox Christians is humility, and experience. We constantly are reminded of the impermanence of worldly things and that our lives are inconsequential on a cosmic scale, it’s because of this that I believe we are actually one of the most liberal church’s when it comes to sin since we are acutely aware that we powerless to evil and temptation.
@MajorMustang1117
@MajorMustang1117 3 ай бұрын
So grateful to Jesus for rescuing me! First, He used wonderful Protestant friends and family to rescue me from Mormonism and undestand the Trinity, Faith in Jesus, the eternality of God instead of just one of many prior gods. Then, after 10 years of getting to know Jesus, He called me into Holy Orthodoxy. I am home. Home with Jesus. Home in His Church. "There is no other name under Heaven by which we MUST be saved."
@jjunboxing000
@jjunboxing000 3 ай бұрын
Honestly this makes so much sense to me
@TimothyNyota
@TimothyNyota 3 ай бұрын
it doesn't
@Patrichor777
@Patrichor777 3 ай бұрын
Theosis is the True meaning of life.
@bruhmingo
@bruhmingo 3 ай бұрын
It doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Divine simplicity is the most internally consistent view, and it’s something that cannot be affirmed if you differentiate God’s essences and energies.
@jakewilliam15
@jakewilliam15 3 ай бұрын
@@bruhmingo ADS doesnt, Is God eternally provident over creation?
@SgtPiper
@SgtPiper 3 ай бұрын
That's because it's the truth
@victormargulius632
@victormargulius632 3 ай бұрын
Protestant here, I’m probably gonna decide to become a catechumen soon ☦️
@DavinaMaryMagdalene
@DavinaMaryMagdalene 3 ай бұрын
welcome home 🤍☦️ I'm a Catholic on the path to convert :)
@Gibbstronic
@Gibbstronic 3 ай бұрын
I pray the Holy Spirit guides you on your journey!
@Orthodox_Knight
@Orthodox_Knight 3 ай бұрын
God bless you all
@TheTruePheever
@TheTruePheever 3 ай бұрын
come to Catholicism
@TheTruePheever
@TheTruePheever 3 ай бұрын
​@@DavinaMaryMagdaleneplease stay with the truth, Matthew 16:18-19 Papacy is the truth, even if Pope Francis isnt the best...
@thomasewatt
@thomasewatt 3 ай бұрын
Jay Dyer already debunked this, so I'm going to leave it be.
@az694
@az694 3 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to this?
@anastasisphyrillas67
@anastasisphyrillas67 3 ай бұрын
Blessed Sunday of St. Gregory Palamas
@DaveMiller741
@DaveMiller741 3 ай бұрын
Im converting to Orthodoxy
@GogakuOtaku
@GogakuOtaku 3 ай бұрын
How come Kyle hasn’t shown up here yet?
@dylanpotter5954
@dylanpotter5954 3 ай бұрын
Some fruit is too low-hanging
@user-dw8rv9mi3l
@user-dw8rv9mi3l 3 ай бұрын
Messianic to Orthodoxy about a year ago its a matter of the heart
@wrongsuitnotie8427
@wrongsuitnotie8427 3 ай бұрын
I was protestant until three months ago. If you're on the fence or curious, talk to a priest.☦️
@indigofenrir7236
@indigofenrir7236 3 ай бұрын
Ew. Why priests? Jesus is the mediator between man and God (1Tim 2:5). We don't need priests.
@Patrichor777
@Patrichor777 3 ай бұрын
​@@indigofenrir7236The Church that Christ founded has Priests.
@indigofenrir7236
@indigofenrir7236 3 ай бұрын
@@Patrichor777 No. Priests serve as mediators between God and man. Jesus is the new High Priest (Heb 4:14) and the sole Mediator (1Tim 2:5). In this dance, buddy, your words are empty without Scripture to back them up.
@Patrichor777
@Patrichor777 3 ай бұрын
@indigofenrir7236 The Theotokos is a mediator between her Son and us men on earth.
@indigofenrir7236
@indigofenrir7236 3 ай бұрын
@@Patrichor777 Nope. Never read that in the Bible, therefore it's false.
@franklinfitzgerald375
@franklinfitzgerald375 3 ай бұрын
You’re a great evangelist for Orthodoxy
@intergalactichumanempire9759
@intergalactichumanempire9759 3 ай бұрын
Eastern Orthodoxy mentioned. Inb4 they all flood the comment section. EDIT: I never accused anyone of being a bot, I simply pointed out how Eastern Orthodox people flood the comment section of any video where they're mentioned.
@ccrow3355
@ccrow3355 3 ай бұрын
All the bots will be saying how they converted
@maggyinahat
@maggyinahat 3 ай бұрын
@@ccrow3355 :) Atheist to Orthodox Convert here. Glad to know I'm a bot
@calvinkane3467
@calvinkane3467 3 ай бұрын
​@@maggyinahat Protestant to Orthodox here, apparently I'm a bot as well. XD
@detective2221
@detective2221 3 ай бұрын
@@maggyinahat You're a bot.
@detective2221
@detective2221 3 ай бұрын
@@calvinkane3467 Bla bla bla.
@robertilie627
@robertilie627 3 ай бұрын
We like to be intellectual we study theology a lot
@williamvillena8658
@williamvillena8658 3 ай бұрын
W orthodox ❤
@dylandilley3820
@dylandilley3820 3 ай бұрын
☦️☦️☦️
@captainfordo1
@captainfordo1 3 ай бұрын
I believe in Divine Simplicity but I do admit that this is more intuitive to understand.
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but when you remove the smoke and robes, it's really just Kant's subjectivism
@Sophia_at_MIA
@Sophia_at_MIA 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 🙄
@Christos-Anesti-ICXC
@Christos-Anesti-ICXC 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053were you predestined to say that ?
@greenacresorganics7922
@greenacresorganics7922 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053That's completely illogical and anachronistic.
@protestanttoorthodox3625
@protestanttoorthodox3625 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053let’s be kind to each other my Protestant friend
@The_Honcho
@The_Honcho 3 ай бұрын
God Bless Christ’s Orthodox Church, following Christ and being apart of such an active living faith has been the best decision of my life ☦️
@extradecaf8778
@extradecaf8778 3 ай бұрын
As long as a denomination believe Jesus is the messiah, died for our sins, and rose from the dead, then it’s good with me. We can debate respectfully about the other stuff
@k.popper2620
@k.popper2620 3 ай бұрын
I don't know the Trinity is kind of important too
@xHollow.
@xHollow. 3 ай бұрын
Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior Believe in the trinity and repent(change your mind) of sin. and Boom you’re saved. Hopefully our brothers and sisters in the EO church can agree on this and not come at you for it. God bless anyone reading this✝️❤️🙏
@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior
@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior 3 ай бұрын
May be important but isn't in the Gospel​@@k.popper2620
@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior
@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior 3 ай бұрын
​@@xHollow.You just created a false Gospel. Nowhere in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 does it mention the Trinity, nor in Romans 1:15-16 - both define the Gospel. Be careful adding things to the actual Gospel. Yes the Trinity is an important doctrine, but it's not involved in being saved. It's something many people learn after being saved.
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 3 ай бұрын
@@k.popper2620 It's important but your salvation isn't contingent on your understanding of it.
@stevepa999
@stevepa999 3 ай бұрын
It should also be stated that we believe that because the evidence backs up our hypothesis. There are many people alive today who have met our modern-day saints and can testify that they have received a certain grace from God that can only be described as theosis.
@DarKMilitiaClan
@DarKMilitiaClan 3 ай бұрын
“Remember im just a Minecraft KZbinr” lol XD ☦️☦️☦️
@Faith_n_Christ_
@Faith_n_Christ_ 3 ай бұрын
☦️
@ZBielski
@ZBielski Ай бұрын
So thankful that after almost 30 years as a protestant i found orthodoxy!
@maggyinahat
@maggyinahat 3 ай бұрын
Condescending tone aside...yeah that's basically true of our theology surrounding Essence/Energies. It doesn't really tell you much more about us though.
@swagmonee5699
@swagmonee5699 3 ай бұрын
The "condescending tone" is literally just his voice lol if you watch any other video, specifically the one about Presbyterianism which is what he ascribes to, you'll hear that he sounds the same there too
@maggyinahat
@maggyinahat 3 ай бұрын
You're right. I apologize for any rudeness. @@swagmonee5699
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 3 ай бұрын
@@swagmonee5699 Listen to his conversation with Trent Horn. It's not "just his voice" it's his personality.
@xHollow.
@xHollow. 3 ай бұрын
wait till you hear Jay dyer in not only how he talks to Rz, but how he debates, and even insulted him on his theology.
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 3 ай бұрын
I doubt he could fit all of Orthodoxy in a youtube short. He just focuses on the general idea of each faith.
@strygian192
@strygian192 3 ай бұрын
This guy thinks hes way smarter than he is from his tone. Orthodoxy is amazind
@R_t_o_b_y
@R_t_o_b_y 24 күн бұрын
Found my way to the Orthodox Church after searching many Protestant churches. Always felt somthing was missing. I Glad there’s been so much more exposure of the Orthodox Church. Was baptized into the EO Church in February this year.
@franciseenc
@franciseenc 3 ай бұрын
You should make a video like “1 Minute case for Sola Scriptura.” Kind of Truth Unites styled! God bless.
@albabialdayaqi5885
@albabialdayaqi5885 3 ай бұрын
Sola scriptura --> 30 000 protestant denominations.
@franciseenc
@franciseenc 3 ай бұрын
@@albabialdayaqi5885 can you name just 30 pls
@johnjelinek3983
@johnjelinek3983 3 ай бұрын
You are covering the content of the 9th Ecumenical Council. Might do you good to cover Ecumenical Councils 1-8 first.
@ilkc100
@ilkc100 3 ай бұрын
I grew up orthodox and have never heard of this…that we can just become like “gods” never…
@nghost7590
@nghost7590 3 ай бұрын
Do you live under a rock? Theosis is a very key part of Eastern Orthodoxy. Some would say it’s the meaning of life.
@evertaj2438
@evertaj2438 3 ай бұрын
@@nghost7590 would make sense that converts would know more about the faith rather than born Orthodox Christians. When it feels like its forgranted you dont take whats given to you as serious as someone that grew up with a different background searching for the truth.
@AutisticPsychologist
@AutisticPsychologist 3 ай бұрын
orthobros are very toxic. They also love their man made traditions and James 2 when the Bible says its faith Alone which saves and NOT WORKS. You can't lose salvation. Add any works to grace and its no more grace. Jesus said He won't lose anybody the Father gives Him. I'm Greek american I know about orthodox ppl in real life too. Not my style.
@3within1
@3within1 3 ай бұрын
Just because theosis is present in what you’ve learned in Orthodoxy doesn’t mean that it is everyone’s experience. Do you live under a rock? Don’t you know that not everyone’s orthodox experience is the same? I say this in jest but hope you can learn that your experience of something isn’t always the same as everyone else’s experience of that something. Lord have mercy on all of us.
@mohamedshiekh635
@mohamedshiekh635 3 ай бұрын
I’m not Christian but I do agree with you, we can never ever become like God, we’re God’s creation and God isn’t anything like his creation. God has given limited things in everything we have knowledge, power, life, wisdom, intelligence. It’s a blasphemy to say that. Also personal experience don’t prove anything, it’s personal so it’s subjectif, you can’t prove it, it’s only known to you.
@christinah128
@christinah128 3 ай бұрын
Oh my - so many flavors of ice cream 😊 IMHO the author’s presentation of the Eastern Orthodox Trinity reveals his subjectivity- This author presents as intellectual but he does have passion and feeling or he would not be tweaking Orthodox Christian beliefs. The mystical experience IMHO is about being Humble - who are we to assume or “guarantee” anything? To an Orthodox Christian, sin is an illness or infirmary. It is compared by some as a “hospital” concept as opposed to “court of law”. May I suggest the author read Thomas Hopko’s Book on Spirituality for better understanding (if that’s what this is really about). Otherwise , I pray that he has a full and humble experience in the presence of God.
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 3 ай бұрын
The differences are fascinating. Their view would be a lot closer to Buddhism than the West.
@xHollow.
@xHollow. 3 ай бұрын
Lol yup graceo buddhism at that
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 3 ай бұрын
@@xHollow. Not that I have a problem with this at all. If anything I prefer it. If it were not for the incredible arrogance and duplicity of Christians generally I would be an Orthodox, rather than a Catholic. I think we just need to make a Neoplatonic Church and stick to what is simple and depends as little as possible upon revelation. It should be possible to worship via Greek Philosophy without the neurotic manipulation of revelations.
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson 3 ай бұрын
No that would be vishnavite visadvaita vedenta tradition of Hinduism founded by Ramajuna or ibin arbai unity of being
@Asealkaz
@Asealkaz 3 ай бұрын
So… orthodoxy comes with a skill tree… based
@marukchozt6744
@marukchozt6744 3 ай бұрын
Besides the mystical aspect of it, the doctrines of communicable attributes and incommunicable attributes are pretty similar to this view of energy
@ErickRomero-xv6zz
@ErickRomero-xv6zz 3 ай бұрын
☦☝.
@Nonz.M
@Nonz.M 3 ай бұрын
Not an Eastern Orthodox, but the fall of Constantinople was a very sad day in history.
@cabellero1120
@cabellero1120 Ай бұрын
Orthodoxy is more worshipful than laser light shows and rock concerts and Starbucks coffee!
@memelorddude7688
@memelorddude7688 Ай бұрын
I'm catholic but I grew up in a orthodox country and I love my orthodox brothers UNITED IN CHRIST
@Bncnj
@Bncnj Ай бұрын
I get what you are saying, it’s the heart that matters. One could worship in a church with flashing “lights” more than one is a traditional church and the opposite could be said. I would ask isn’t God more worthy than the production or the spotlight we give celebrities? For me I couldn’t be in a church that wouldn’t allow me to go all out in my worship and praise. God brought me from a lot. I mean I was found in a ditch unconscious in the summer in NC. Not one mosquito bite was found on me. I have seen worse things than that in ditches in my area. That just one story. I couldn’t never go to a church (regularly) that wouldn’t allow me to give all of what God is worth and due. Hallelujah means to “(with undignified praise) praise Yah.” It’s a command that David understood. “I’ll become even more undignified than this”.
@flemishgiantrabbitlove2869
@flemishgiantrabbitlove2869 3 ай бұрын
You can't become God you can just be transformed through God into what God wants you to be
@Sanctifying
@Sanctifying 14 күн бұрын
It makes sense. I saw someone say something about the sun, so I'll also use it. What is the sun? The sun is a large burning ball of gas. Out of it comes heat, light, and it has a strong gravitational pull because of its great size and mass. Therefore, you can say the sun is bright, hot, and large. It has all of the characteristics of what radiates out of it, because what comes out of it is made from it directly, but at the same time, the sun isn't made out of heat, light, or gravity, it is gas.
@jobengals86
@jobengals86 20 күн бұрын
Orthodoxy is so cool. What a gem to rediscover this (as a westerner) 1000 years after our terrible schisms & friction with each other. Brothers & sisters in Christ should never do this again regardless of our preferred church. Love to all of you ♥️
@PJDMC5306
@PJDMC5306 3 ай бұрын
Partakers of the Divine Nature ftw.
@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior
@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior 3 ай бұрын
That's just simple Bible doctrine - 2 Peter 1 mentions it. It isn't unique to EO
@Matador824
@Matador824 Ай бұрын
Eastern Orthodox don't believe the holy Spirit proceeds from the father and the son for that reason the "and the son" part of the Trinity was later added by the Pope the orthodox believe in a different version of the Trinity because that was the first version of the Trinity
@jameskelly945
@jameskelly945 3 ай бұрын
Blessed is the unbroken chain of apostolic succession, the eternal body of Christ with checks and balances, that doesn’t dwell on worldly affairs of man and political authority, the one church since the beginning not to modernize and try to perfect what’s already perfect, the writers of the Bible, and that which doesn’t create heresies but preserves the original message from our lord a savior Jesus Christ.
@TheGhost13512
@TheGhost13512 2 ай бұрын
I think that the same belief on oriental Orthodox and we believe that the holy spirit comes from the father and the essence is mystery because the bible said that No one has seen God at any time. The only born Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, has declared him. John 1 : 18 and father in the bible means essence 😊
@titos_z
@titos_z 3 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy believes Jesus posses the Holy Spirit and gives it to us so I disagree with your statement
@nghost7590
@nghost7590 3 ай бұрын
Yes we believe the Son can send the Spirit and that the Spirit is rested and manifested through the Son; we don’t believe He proceeds from the Son because to proceed is to be emanated, we do not believe the Son to be a cause of the Spirit.
@titos_z
@titos_z 3 ай бұрын
@@nghost7590 exactly because without father there is no son.
@HB_IE52829
@HB_IE52829 3 ай бұрын
"Protestant, catholic, orthodox here..." Like football clubs. Ridiculous. "I might become a catholic, orthodox..." Again the football clubs. Talk about your "energies". "We are the right religion" "No, we are", "Oh no, we are even righter than you". Every conversation that does not include and point to Jesus Christ and our salvation by His blood is just a bunch of fools in their ivory tower trying to sound smart - and that's just pride.
@maksim3417
@maksim3417 3 ай бұрын
It's still pretty important
@Juan-gd1wd
@Juan-gd1wd 3 ай бұрын
Your point has some truth in it but, for the most part, is just fallacious and reductionist. If you met, let's say, a neo-aryan (i.e, Jehovah Witness or member of the Iglesia Ni Cristo) and they happened to be very fond on talking about Christ and His sacrifice for us, would they pass your criteria? even when they blaspheme against the Most Holy Trinity by denying it as well as the divinity of Our Lord?
@catnappernellie1211
@catnappernellie1211 3 ай бұрын
Knowledge of God and discussions about him bring us closer to the fullness of truth in him
@jacobpalmer7538
@jacobpalmer7538 3 ай бұрын
​@@Juan-gd1wdI'd say for the overwhelming majority no, they would not pass the criteria because they are rejecting the core message of the bible and salvation. Even so, I do find it hard to believe that not a single one has been able to find saving faith. I am with OP 100 percent on the football club view, most denominations across the world are slandering each other over definitions and grey areas, and it's weakening the church overall. No single church group today is infallible or has theology that's 100% correct. There are people in every major (and I'd say most minor) church groups who have saving faith, and also those who do not. The Lord's True Church is spread across the world, and so many of his children are bickering with each other too hard to realize. I'm not arguing for any sort of universalism, there are "Christian" sects that certainly are heretical in their beliefs, like Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, etc. I'm just tired of my brothers and sisters in The Church bringing each other down.
@Benjamin-bq7tc
@Benjamin-bq7tc 3 ай бұрын
Are you trying to sound dumb? If so, mission accomplished.
@nickk4125
@nickk4125 3 ай бұрын
So long as you're saying that we cannot intellectually know God's essence then sure. But it seems like instead you're saying instead that other forms of Christianity are more intellectual.
@norala-gx9ld
@norala-gx9ld 20 күн бұрын
As a philo-Orthodox Anglican I say, this is the way
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 3 ай бұрын
Sorry greek bros, i just don't by it.
@Benjamin-bq7tc
@Benjamin-bq7tc 3 ай бұрын
Greek Bros? My family is English/Dutch/Swiss. And I'm Eastern Orthodox.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 3 ай бұрын
@@Benjamin-bq7tc it's called Greek schismatic.
@JimtheCODpro
@JimtheCODpro 3 ай бұрын
Poorly explained
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 3 ай бұрын
How so? Orthos always say I misrepresented them but never say how
@xHollow.
@xHollow. 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053it’s okay man. proclaimed “orthodox” (not talking about real EO) will say this without explaining why. it’s simply because of larping issues.
@JChrist0AD
@JChrist0AD 3 ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053as an “orthobro“, this is a perfect explanation.
@Shiranui115
@Shiranui115 3 ай бұрын
I mean, it's 60 seconds, what do you want from the man Sincerely, an Orthodox Christian
@joeykaram4457
@joeykaram4457 3 ай бұрын
yeah this is a great explanation.
@mgd2000rb
@mgd2000rb 3 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏼☦️
@galaxygamergirl944
@galaxygamergirl944 3 ай бұрын
Ethiopian Tewhado next!!
@TheTruePheever
@TheTruePheever 3 ай бұрын
my ranking: 1:Catholic 2:Orthodox 3:Anglican this is the only right ranking
@hismajesty6272
@hismajesty6272 3 ай бұрын
I’m considering becoming either Anglican or Catholic.
@ccrow3355
@ccrow3355 3 ай бұрын
There is no ranking. There's truth and not truth.
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 3 ай бұрын
Why should anyone care about your ranking?
@TheTruePheever
@TheTruePheever 3 ай бұрын
@@hismajesty6272 you should become Catholic, just remember, Anglican came after
@user-up7nb6id1f
@user-up7nb6id1f 3 ай бұрын
@@TheTruePheeverby that logic, second century sects came before Catholicism
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis 3 ай бұрын
It can be summed up as “woooahhh, duuuuude, there’s like… no high like the Most Hiighhhhhh… 😵‍💫” 😂
@maksim3417
@maksim3417 3 ай бұрын
Ur the only one that's high here 💀
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis 3 ай бұрын
@@maksim3417 I wish… 😂
@noahwatkins6093
@noahwatkins6093 Ай бұрын
Is there any way I can learn more about orthodox Christianity ? Any resources
@guts2186
@guts2186 Ай бұрын
Go to an Orthodox Church and talk to a priest, or can go on Orthodox websites, read Orthodox books, watch Orthodox videos on KZbin.
@dnk2918
@dnk2918 3 ай бұрын
what name of the background music?
@INFAMOUSKAI-jx7rb
@INFAMOUSKAI-jx7rb Ай бұрын
You cant become God
@interestingfacts7961
@interestingfacts7961 Ай бұрын
I believe that such statements show that sometimes we judge the theology of another denomination through our own mental paradigms/the one we're used to. Before saying that we can't be God, we have to understand what theosis means for an orthodox. We can't isolate one teaching from its parent dogmatic system. I believe that this video explains very well what it means for an orthodox to be deified, which is something very different from what we would think!
@INFAMOUSKAI-jx7rb
@INFAMOUSKAI-jx7rb Ай бұрын
@@interestingfacts7961 i see where your coming from. But still we cannot become Gods.
@apologeticsnamare
@apologeticsnamare Ай бұрын
It's ouvbiously not saying we will become God in his essence, which is not only blasphemous but impossible. The Orthodox belief is that we can partake in the energies of God, because their is a distinction. We will become partakers of the divine nature
@apologeticsnamare
@apologeticsnamare Ай бұрын
@@INFAMOUSKAI-jx7rb energies I beleve meaning glory, righteousness and such
@interestingfacts7961
@interestingfacts7961 Ай бұрын
@apologeticsnamare exactly. The Othodox actually believe not only that you can't partake in God's essence, but you also can't know it. It is absolutely incomprehensible to any human being.
@nootpengu
@nootpengu 3 ай бұрын
No hate to orthodox but maybe the reason the west has a better understanding is because he accepted the fullness of the Holy Spirit in our church
@guineapigclips5205
@guineapigclips5205 3 ай бұрын
And orthodxy hasn't?
@Juan-gd1wd
@Juan-gd1wd 3 ай бұрын
Why both you, Zoomer and a couple other Ecumenist/religious indifferent minded Christians are starting to try to pretend that there are no distinctions between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism by calling it "West" or "our Church" when you CLEARLY know that not even Luther and Calvin agreed on MANY issues being, arguably, two of the earliest and most important figures of Protestantism as a whole?
@matt66716
@matt66716 3 ай бұрын
What does this even mean 💀
@nootpengu
@nootpengu 3 ай бұрын
@@guineapigclips5205 they haven’t accepted the Holy Spirit preceding from the father and so
@nootpengu
@nootpengu 3 ай бұрын
@@matt66716 they haven’t accepted the Filioque
@jacobassink6982
@jacobassink6982 3 ай бұрын
Also note protestants such as Greg Bahnsen and Cornelius VanTil make distinctions between the Ontological Trinity and the Economic Trinity and do not hold to Thomistic Simplicity.
@jik3905
@jik3905 3 ай бұрын
Prayer here when needed loves ❤
@ccrow3355
@ccrow3355 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like some new age bs
@deathbydank3206
@deathbydank3206 3 ай бұрын
Too bad we’ve existed for 2,000 years
@novo121
@novo121 3 ай бұрын
Here lies a example of someone uneducated
@seventhtrumpet7
@seventhtrumpet7 3 ай бұрын
​@@deathbydank3206Your mystery Babylon cult has existed far longer than that, just with different robes and hats.
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 3 ай бұрын
There definitely is an influence of eastern mysticism on Eastern Orthodoxy
@maggyinahat
@maggyinahat 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm happy to report that the Essence/Energies distinction is quite an old one and is not in any way related to "New Age" or their related occult practices or ideologies.
@MGee33
@MGee33 Ай бұрын
the end makes sense because Jesus said that only the father knows about the day or hour of judgement, and it’s the holy spirit that traces for believers to be ready
@jacobbeitner8796
@jacobbeitner8796 3 ай бұрын
“They don’t like to be too intellectual”
@sidneybuckaloo
@sidneybuckaloo 9 күн бұрын
As a Christian who’s been a Christian for a little over 3 years now… it’s exhausting trying to find a home (sect of belief). How are we to ever know who is correct? As someone who wants to learn… I am truly irritated and frustrated with many of my fellow Christians. It seems all we can do is spend our time calling other Christians “heretics” and “false”. I’m so over it.
@noahsullivan4772
@noahsullivan4772 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly right though. Sounds like it covers all bases including the manner by which saints are chosen.
@jasminegreen2979
@jasminegreen2979 2 ай бұрын
That last part didn't make sense to me. The Holy Spirit is not an "energy", He is a person...the 3rd person of the Godhead.
@k2lt3k
@k2lt3k 2 ай бұрын
Energy isnt the exact thing we call it. the holy spirit is sort of like gods will. trust me when i say, orthodox christians understand quite well the trinity as the very concept of it is orthodox. (see Saint Spyridon)
@jasminegreen2979
@jasminegreen2979 2 ай бұрын
@k2lt3k The Holy Spirit isn't "sort of like" anything. He is God. He is not a force or will. He may enact and speak the will of the Father...but He Himself is not some byproduct of instruction or will. Also, being Orthodox does not make anyone infallible on doctrine. Be weary of pride.
@TadouYogiri
@TadouYogiri 2 ай бұрын
God saved me! first he saved me from being fully atheist through protestants, i get to know him and the bible structure, then next my mom brought me to roman catholicism, i studied morality and theology of the roman catholic and i notice that something is very off with the people, the RCC mass feels so scripted and uncomfortable, then I become an atheist again not until I learned about Orthodoxy then I fully prepared myself, to be Eastern Orthodox. FATHER, I AM HOME!
@Beck-bu5cx
@Beck-bu5cx 3 ай бұрын
Yo somebody sent this to Sneeko so he can at least understand what the smarter people believe.
@bensilk6431
@bensilk6431 2 ай бұрын
With that bit at the end, are you saying that the orthodox believe that the holy spirit proceeds from the father and the son energetically but not hypostatically? I've seen this claim a few times but im not sure where I can find it as official orthodox teachings.
@Stolen_entertainment
@Stolen_entertainment 3 ай бұрын
God is God by nature but we through theosis and communion become gods by grace and return to Him ontologically like Adam and Eve were before the fall same as all the early Church Fathers believed aswell, this guy is talking a load of nonsense. ☦️🙌
@Dusticulous
@Dusticulous 3 ай бұрын
I'm not a Christian at all but I still like learning about the different denomination's philosophies
@FreeSpeechAbsolutist1776
@FreeSpeechAbsolutist1776 3 ай бұрын
As interesting as philosophies are, they are of no use on the Judgement Day on which God will judge us for our sins. The penalty for our sins is eternal torment in Hell. There is only one way to avoid Hell and that is through faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God who took our punishment on the cross, died for our sins, and rose from the dead. Man isn't guaranteed a tomorrow, choose Christ today, lest you die in your sins.
@pearlteredanio2933
@pearlteredanio2933 17 күн бұрын
Jesus christ 👇not forcing
@dragontiger624
@dragontiger624 3 ай бұрын
I ask can you do oriental protestant, Or whatever marthomite (or Mar Thoma Syrian Church)
@CODandponies
@CODandponies 3 ай бұрын
Is this what they mean when people talk about "entire Sanctification"?
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 3 ай бұрын
It's something they believe in, yes
@consideringorthodoxy5495
@consideringorthodoxy5495 2 ай бұрын
If, through reasoning of your intellect, you determine that there is an aspect of reality that you cannot describe, say God's Essence, then not talking or theorizing about it is not anti-intellectual, it is quite literally the opposite.
@denizbeytekin9853
@denizbeytekin9853 3 ай бұрын
Keep doing these shorts man
@naturesorder7106
@naturesorder7106 8 күн бұрын
Eastern truth is in the Spirit. The majority of the western view is in intellectual and mind. They know a lot but have no relation with the Spirit. I fear for their souls. Lord have mercy on them who say they know.
@louannebvb
@louannebvb 3 ай бұрын
I'm a western Christian but i think theosis is very interesting
@dereklwilson777
@dereklwilson777 2 ай бұрын
Amen
@AprendeMovimiento
@AprendeMovimiento 3 ай бұрын
Philotheos Kokkinos (A Palamite Father) disagrees with this notion. The essence energy distinction is not a real distinction in God, since his essential activity is to be God (I am that I am). Creatures are acts/energies by participation, so there is a coarctation in the divine essential activity of God and that coarctation is what gives rise to creatures, finite acts. The metaphysical bifurcation happens in respect to creatures not within God, he is Simple (perfect).
@stephenkaake7016
@stephenkaake7016 3 ай бұрын
I was trained by God for 6 months, it was like being in a Bible Story, it should be in a movie
@DylanKatt
@DylanKatt 3 ай бұрын
What are YOUR thoughts on the afterlife? 🙂
@tommy9132
@tommy9132 3 ай бұрын
thought about becoming orthodox (still kinda thinking about it) but its very hard in america. so many european language speaking churches here so its hard to find one to fit in to
@machinotaur
@machinotaur 3 ай бұрын
Orthodox Church in America and Antiochian parishes are generally English speaking, check those out if they're in your area. Others depends on how many immigrants they have, can vary widely. Hope this helps!
@tommy9132
@tommy9132 3 ай бұрын
@machinotaur I get confused by the scheduling. What is othros and what is liturgy? if u understand
@machinotaur
@machinotaur 3 ай бұрын
Orthros, aka Matins, is the service before the Divine Liturgy. It has Psalms, songs, scripture readings, information about the saints honored that day. Immediately following that is the Divine Liturgy, which is the big service for the week which has the Eucharist. In my parish most people trickle in during Orthros, many in the last 20 minutes before the Liturgy begins, so don't feel like you need to go for all of Orthros your first time. It's Great Lent now, so there are additional evening services as well. I'd say ust go check it out, it's okay to be confused at first ( I certainly was), there's a lot going on.
@tommy9132
@tommy9132 3 ай бұрын
@@machinotaur that was a big help thanks a lot
@reelmsy3831
@reelmsy3831 15 күн бұрын
i have a feeling this divinised thing is sorta relating to John 3
@intreuefestundlachen1883
@intreuefestundlachen1883 3 ай бұрын
Basically the works of the saints are really God's works. He is the origin of any Good inclination and the completion of it. All that is required of us is our Faith and consent in each work. So it is essentially the Orthodox solution to the whole Faith/Works debate. When you insert the teaching into the Pelagian debate, this becomes clear. For instance, St. Prosper of Aquitaine explicitly stated that Divine Grace IS God Himself. (Ie Uncreated)
@mfling4446
@mfling4446 3 ай бұрын
The confusion in this video is from the lack of understanding god the father and Jesus Christ. You can never be the father but you can be fully filled with Christ.
@indigofenrir7236
@indigofenrir7236 3 ай бұрын
Verse? Or did you just make that up?
@mfling4446
@mfling4446 3 ай бұрын
@@indigofenrir7236 it is mentioned in the bible that you cannot se god and live, but also moses saw god at the top of the mountain. So i would say moses saw the energy of god not the essense.
@indigofenrir7236
@indigofenrir7236 3 ай бұрын
@@mfling4446 You mean the Spirit of God, represented by fire.
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 2 ай бұрын
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." -- Voltaire
@oscarmorales8226
@oscarmorales8226 3 ай бұрын
Bible believer here, I can definitely see that the Bible isn't the final authority 😅
@diddydrizzy
@diddydrizzy 3 ай бұрын
guess what? we MADE the Bible
@oscarmorales8226
@oscarmorales8226 3 ай бұрын
You just proved my point 😅
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