Easy Flying Wing Setup for Quad Pilots

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[@v_ktr4358]

As always, great Video! Informative and really nicely structured!

[@seangordonrichards]

Exactly the video I was looking for. Thank you!!

[@eddieehlin3577]

Great video, and great tip on having the sub trim updated from trim settings from flight. Your videos are a good source of information Lee! :-)

[@Wastelessplague]

i have nano talon and dart and have been flying them for about 6 months and i still learned a few things from this video thanks so much

[@TheRealWurstCase]

I'm a drone pilot and recently bought the ZOHD Dart XL and was checking out youtube videos about fixed wings (while waiting for the flight controller to arrive) if there is any information that i missed - and there is that beautiful video of yours with everything i need! Thank you so much for this !

[@retrogazele]

Just got my first wing after my quad ,and this helped me a lot thank you!!

[@alexmh6131]

Wow this is incredibly informative and helpful, thank you so much!

[@rhettlee]

Dude this is so helpful. Thank you!

[@SCFPV]

MiniQuad pilot here. So after getting my ZOHD Dart 250G ,and installing Kopilot and a receiver, I crashed and ripped the entire nose off. I repaired it, and on take-off.....it tried to bury it's head in the ground, and ripped the nose off again. (Guess it was ashamed of it's "pilot" lol.) Anywho, I found your great video, and quickly realized as I was following along with you, that I had my controls for the control surfaces all jacked up. Thanks for this. I'll try to maiden her again tomorrow, if all the bepp glue on the nose doesn't weigh her down. ;p Thanks again!

[@NordicBlueRC]

Thanks for this!

[@spinymonk1590]

Great video ,thanks ,have just built an ft goblin wing and was confused on the setup ,this is a great help , also got into 3d printing , so of course having lots of spare quad parts ,I’ve printed a airboat , a video on two channel setup on the x9d would be great ,thanks again Lee 👍

[@rhettlee]

What material did you print your airboat in?

[@endyX286]

thanks for this.this is what im looking for.👍👍

[@michael3573]

You made a video just for me! Haha. Thank you!

[@didactylos4diddy474]

Nice fairly simple but effective video Lee. All we need now is a simple way to change muscle memory...... especially the tendency for ex-quad pilots to expect a climb solely from throttle punch. _This is often a cause of unintended landings in trees, or into the ground with subsequent instruction needed on glueing foam_ _I fly both and have had similar transition problems when swapping from one to the other even after all these years_

[@Painless360]

I’ll be making some videos about that - you’re spot on, you can’t get out of trouble when you are about to hit a tree by blipping the throttle in a wing! :)

[@beefybeef1326]

Great tutorial - much appreciated!

[@beefybeef1326]

For a beginner, is there any rc flight simulators you recommend?

[@sleepingbearffg5008]

This be me.. lol I'm so close!! Getting excited!! The wing aspect of Hobby makes Flying a drone easy.. Be making my own robot Soon. Learning so much.. Sad that governments making so Hard and so many rules.. kids should be flying.. not us old Men.. Lol Thanks again for another Great video! Your a legend on the plane side of Hobby. And no so cocky as the Drone legend.. he he God bless the teacher's of the world.. that be you 👊👊💪💪

[@brunogp8269]

Thanks for this video. Very useful. My first wing flight I had the aelerons reversed so I crashed LOL Still haven't tryed again because I'm afraid to destroy my new love 😆

[@Painless360]

See my video from yesterday that covers preflight checks. I’ll be showing my maiden if a wing today too so you can see how I do it- hope it helps..

[@domanater480]

Wow this is amazing wish I watched it before my ar wing maiden. It was a disaster couldn’t get it to take off after the throw would just dive every time. Finally got it up in the air and flew for a bit but the whole time I was fighting it. Then it crashed into a tree. I think maybe it’s a CG issue I’m having. Was no wind but it was bobbling around every where. Also I’m fairly new at Los planes and was quite frightened by how fast it needed to to just to stay up in the air.

[@Painless360]

See my other wing videos aimed at new pilots for more tricks. There are a few common mistakes new pilots make and when you avoid them the flying gets a lot easier! Best of luck with the next try...

[@wadetubman]

Great. Would like to see an inav guide for quad users (compare and contrast features and some of this things that work quite different - like air mode)

[@Painless360]

Thanks for the idea, please see my iNav series that are already on the channel. I've got quite a few quads with iNav so far. Happy flying!

[@ianwoolley66]

Hi, Any chance you can show how to do the mixes on the Nirvana Radio? Cheers.

[@jcfpv3454]

Thank you so much wish I would have watched before my maiden

[@Painless360]

The video has been here for a while..... ;) best of luck be with your next maiden.... Happy flying

[@WX4CB]

nice vid, seems @20:00 someone got bit by a prop :D

[@13ahab]

A great video, could you do one with stabilisation unit in it and show the difference, please

[@Painless360]

Fixed Wing and Planes 101: Stabiliser or flight controller? kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LJf3ZrarqXq5I I also have a video showing how to add the Hobbyeagle stabiliser to a plane and also show flight footage of the ZOHD Dart and Orbit flying for how it affects it..

[@prodbysamar]

3 years later, great video! Been flying whoops for a while and planning to get into wings...any suggestions for first wing to buy?

[@Painless360]

A wing wouldn't be my first choice for the tentative steps into fixed wing. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnqtZKSQabCChbM

[@jamescherrill5736]

Hey lee, Thanks for sharing this. Can you go into trimming in a little more detail please? My main issue is when flying level the plane is flying away from you and usually at quite some speed. As a new plane pilot it’s hard to tell if it’s level n straight so any tips on that? Also when you talk about balance can you show us exactly what it should look like when correct and does it need to balance left to right as well? Great intro video

[@Painless360]

Get a buddy to help and they can support. In a calm day you should be able to take your hands off the plane/wing fly itself once trimmed. It’s always tempting to use too much throttle when starting so try to fly with a low cruise throttle and fly up and down the field straight and level to give you time to get it spot in. Maybe another video is needed.. ice idea..

[@paulg5437]

If you're in a club or have a fixed wing buddy, it's worthwhile letting him try the wing as he can advise on trimming and probably rates and expos too (wings are often twitchy and hovering is not an option :D). If you have the same TXs you can also use a buddy box link to begin with especially for landing as reflexes can get you if you start to think too much.

[@kennethkephart6688]

Hey I just have a question I built and WingcatcherRC racing spec wing. But I’m not going to race it, it was given to me. It’s my first wing build. I have built 5 quads. Ok the question is I put the battery and the motor in the middle. But the 40amp cobra esc could not fit in the middle so it is to left I also put the VTX on the left side And an S8r to the right and servos of course left and right. The Esc the receiver and Foxeer Lollie pop weigh in at 52 grams. So o figured I would need to counter that with 52 grams for the other side I believe. And I added 9 grams to nose to get proper balance on the CG. That brought the weight up to 552 grams and the battery is 169 grams that brings the total weight to.721grams. Do you think it will fly. The battery is a 3s 2200mah with a 40 amp esc and a Cobra 2210/2200kv spec motor. Any advice would be Appreciated.

[@fade2nada]

Nice video Lee. I am exactly the guy you are talking about. Flown and built Quads and now very interested in Wings. I have watched ALL your videos - they have been a great help. I have the HobbyKing Mini Sonic, Bonsai 2 and Wing Wing Z-84 ( w INAV) what Wing/setup do you recommend for beginners? Ive beaten the Bonsai up like hell. The mini sonic is small and twitchy. And the Wing Z-84 Im still trying to set up correctly in INAV. I want a nice relaxing flyer that can take some abuse. Thanks!

[@Painless360]

It depends on what you are looking for and your level of experience. The Teksumo and ZOHD Orbit are good choices - see my kit picks video from August.. Best of luck!

[@jackdaniels7913]

Excellent information as always! If I may ask what wood your recommendation be for an 8 channel minimum receiver from frsky with servo pins?

[@Painless360]

X8R or similar.. happy flying!

[@jackdaniels7913]

Sounds good thank you just popped in and watched the complex setup video you did with the me-109 grate wealth of information again thank you for everything your doing for the hobby I'm learning openTX on an x10s but your videos are making it much easier!

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic, Lee! Thanks a lot for this! 😃 I have 2 questions... In a wing with iNav the model would be created the same way? Or something would be different? (Forgetting about aux channels, of course.) The second question is about the esc... In a wing with iNav would you use a BLHELI_S or a Simonk esc? Or doesn't it matter? Thanks! 😊

[@Painless360]

No mixing if you use iNav - see the series.. and it doesn’t matter about the ESC for a fixed wing, happy flying!

[@MCsCreations]

@@Painless360 Thanks!!! I will! 😃

[@beebakrizzle]

Thanks for the video! Very helpful. If I may request something, much like MC's Creations I would like to use a FC with iNav in my wing. I've been stuck at the step where one needs to adjust the throw of the servos to match a certain deflection. Would one do that in the mixer in iNav?

[@Painless360]

Please see my inav series. It's all in there..

[@AlexCastignani]

hi, thanks a lot for your very helpful video. i'm having difficulties configuring my f3 spracing(3.5.7) controller with my arwing mini. in betaflight in the receiver tab chanel are moving, but servos and motor dont!?!? i configured flying mode but i can't figure out how to solve the problem. if i remover the FC everything working fine? whats my mistake??? please help!! ciao from italy alessandro

[@Painless360]

Use iNav not betaflight for wings. See my iNav 2.1 series...

[@fa300ry]

Hi Couple of questions hope you could answer 1- how do you calibrate the stabilizer on the ZOHD Orbit ? 2-Is there a trick to “increasing” the travel on the Ailerons when stick is pushed down for wing to climb as the travel is barely 4-5 mm meanwhile all other movements are okay? 3-the left Aileron touches wing when moving , is there a way to rectify it ? “Sand” contact point or “lube” it or cut with a blade etc , please advise. Thanks in advance

[@Painless360]

1) Power up the model and have the radio connected then hold the button until the light flashes and then leave it for a few seconds until teh light stops flashing. The stabiliser should be good from the factory. 2) Yes, increase travel in that direction on the radio, be aware that in stabilise modes the controls may not move fully. I'd try and fly it first. 3) Depends what you mean by touching - see my review of that model for my building tips.. Best of luck!

[@anthonyshort8957]

Very useful. Which simulator would you recommend for learning a wing coming from multi-rotors?

[@Painless360]

Most of the ‘classic’ sims are great ways to practice flying fixed wing. It’s a a great idea to look at a few. My favourite was PhoenixRC but that’s no longer sold..

[@thebiggingerjim]

Thanks for another great video. I’ve learnt a lot from you videos, built several quads, and now just bought my first fixed wing. I got an AR Wing and about to put a CRSF and FPV gear into it without a FC to start with. I just tried to create the model in my Taranis as you did, but it literally just creates a model, not giving an option of wing, quad or plane etc. No diagrams or anything. Do I need to set it up with companion? Running 2.2.1. Thanks for any help.

[@Painless360]

You'll be missing the setup wizard LUA script on the SD card..

[@thebiggingerjim]

Painless360 Thanks, can I just add Wizard LUA to SD card without upgrading or mucking anything else up?

[@Painless360]

Should be able to..

[@thebiggingerjim]

Painless360 Thanks for the rapid reply, even on Easter bank holiday! One new patreon.

[@Fpvfreaky]

Thanks lee I was looking at that zohd the other day. Has that got a stabilisation unit in that.?

[@Painless360]

Oh yes! Full MicroVector in it - you can preview the series playlist that includes the re-maiden now.. happy flying!

[@Fpvfreaky]

Painless360 thanks mate I’ll have a look 👍🏽

[@Painless360]

Just re-read your comment! If you mean the Dart then it does (see the review) the Dart XL doesn’t so I added the Vector to it.. :)

[@zackattack91000]

How do you find the right receiver and transmitter? What are the qualities that they must both have in order to connect to each other? Does the brand matter or do the Hz matter?

[@Painless360]

Check out my videos in the introduction to radio control series - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYqxg42Mf66fbc0

[@deathstar168]

Another great video...quick question...debating whether to buy a wing with a stabilizer already installed (and allegedly tuned) vs DIY...if I use a Matek wing FC with iNav, does that provide stabilization or do I need a separate, dedicated stabilizer?

[@Painless360]

It’s a personal thing but a stabiliser can help but for FPV a FC is great! Fixed Wing and Planes 101: Stabiliser or flight controller? kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LJf3ZrarqXq5I

[@deathstar168]

Thanks...as usual, you’ve already covered it and I simply haven’t looked hard enough for the right video. I appreciate the link.

[@paulg5437]

A stabilizer is useful at launch and also if you need a 'breather' from tensing up after a close call. Leaving it on all the time is boring as it's limiting your movements and makes it hard to keep it in a proscribed area. Putting it in 'Normal' or 'Semi-assist' mode gives a more realistic response. One word of caution - don't switch modes at low level as if possible as some stabilizers cause the plane to nose up or do a little flip.

[@snowballfpv7583]

Great video Lee. What glue is best for the mini ar wing?

[@Painless360]

I tend to use 5 min epoxy or good ol' foam safe CA! It pays to lightly sand the areas to be glued to help with the bonding.. Hope that helps.

[@snowballfpv7583]

@@Painless360 . Yes, thanks for that . I'll get some ordered

[@danwedrat2783]

Hey Lee, have you had anything to do with the new Rx4r/6r receivers yet?

[@Painless360]

I have a few on order, just waiting for them to arrive..

[@mad-lex]

Hello :) ! First of all thanks a lot for your videos ! Your tutorials are really helpfull ! I have a little issue, I'm building up a ZOHD 250 with a TBS Tango Pro 2 as a TX. I configured a "Delta" wing on the Tango. I follower your full videos for setting up iNav. But when I go to Receiver tab, throttle works great and respond. But Elevator makes moving Roll and Pitch at the same time ? I set up on iNav Channel maping as TAER because that's what I got on the Tango. I made sure to be on CRSF on iNav. I tried to play around on the Mixes page of the Tango changing 50 / -50 on the inputs nothing helped. I'm trying to figure out if it's an Inav issue or setting I'm missing out ? Thanks a lot for your help ! Alex

[@Painless360]

It is normally that one of the servos or mixes need reversing. Get both elevons moving up as you move the elevator to the bottom of the radio first by changling the polarity of the elevator portion in the mixer. Change the one that is moving by changing it from positive to negative or vice versa. Then work on the Aileron... best of luck

[@mad-lex]

@@Painless360 Thanks for your answer. So I managed to get a more "normal" behavior on iNav by having CH2 0 Ele +50 Ail / CH3 +50 Ele 0 Ail. But if I get them -50 / +50 and then +50 / - 50. Again it doesn't work. So is it normal to have 0 in the mixers and +50 rather than -50 ? Thanks !

[@mad-lex]

Just tried to play around I put between 0 and 100 and it seems working. But whenever I have one of them at -50 then they both start moving togethere..

[@bryandebruyn4410]

Great vid, is setting up a horus x10s comparable to the x9d? As I'm still struggling to get my zohd dart to work

[@Painless360]

Same process, the steps depends if you gave OpenTX on it or FrOS...

[@bryandebruyn4410]

@@Painless360 Got opentx on my x10s, looks like x9d is way easier to setup. Or I am missing things on my x10s?

[@Painless360]

@@bryandebruyn4410 the navigation on that radio in OpenTX is very different isn't it? The other thing you can do is create the model on the OpenTX companion app and copy it into the radio if that's easier. Best of luck!

[@bryandebruyn4410]

@@Painless360 will give the companion app a try. Thnks for the advice

[@brezovprut4431]

Can we use quad receivers on wings? I see there are dedicated fixed wing receivers (PWM), but i would like to use my spare ELRS quad RX on wings as well.

[@Painless360]

Yes, with a flight controller that understands CRSF.. If not then one of the new PWM output recievers..

[@brezovprut4431]

@@Painless360 So for me as beginner buying new Matek F405-MiniTE is futureproof investment (it supports CRSF)? I guess I can use that FC for both multirotors and fixed wings right?

[@Painless360]

Check out my Kit Picks 2021 video... Best of luck

[@brezovprut4431]

@@Painless360 Thanks, glad I found your channel. Appreciate your help !

[@snowballfpv7583]

When you did your mini ar wing , how did you hold your camera in to the nose ?

[@Painless360]

If it's not a tight enough fit I usually use a thin bead of hot glue..

[@snowballfpv7583]

@@Painless360. Thanks for that 👍

[@Wastelessplague]

what servo checker is that

[@Painless360]

HJ digital servo checker..

[@martin19117]

What direction should the prop be mounted and motor direction

[@Painless360]

Any writing on the prop should be facing forwards and turning to create thrust backwards...

[@martin19117]

Painless360 if the wing is facing forward and I’m facing forward. Should the motor be spinning clockwise. Is this correct. Thank you for your help.

[@georgejohnson9606]

Can I reverse my channel or servos in kopilot 😊

[@Painless360]

Check out my step by step guide for how to setup Kopilot... Best of luck

[@miksa3981]

Yeah its easy on that expensive transmitter but how can i set it up on FlySky I6S

[@Painless360]

At the start of the series where I explain that this series is aimed at those pilots who already have invested in lots of technology for quadcopters. See the playlists on other radios, simple wing setup and plane build playlist for other radio options. Happy flying!

[@miksa3981]

@@Painless360 thanks man i want to build rc wing for first time in my life and fly anything rc for frist time in my life. So i just want to know how all thing works. Thans a lot man