Chased one a few months agoe on a Toyota. Took six times, half way down the door in the middle. Settled for a skin. I do shrink a lot of metal. This new stuff is getting harder and harder to play with. What about this aluminum, I have yet to srtaighten large panels. It is all replace.I have done a few door skins, yet I have not replaced quarter panels on a Epidtion, per, say.Done lots of bed sides on the new Ford junk Thanks for showing the commen person what we do! Keep at it, sir!
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Bill. I've often had to chase them down too but eventually it ends. It can be frustrating for sure but for real - it's never failed me. I have not run into a large damaged aluminum panel yet but I imagine it would be similar. We'll see - should make a cool video though. Feel free to tell me some of the good stories you have from jobs at work - I've got a few fails that I'll always remember for sure :)
@BryanClark-gk6ie Жыл бұрын
On metal that was too thin to heat' I've had to use a 2 part fast drying panel adhesive and a strip of metal from a scrap panel glued to the backside to stiffen it up to keep from canning.
@Slotcarking Жыл бұрын
I also agree with Bryan Clark except I prefer to used a sheet metal angle perhaps .050-.063 thknss x 1” wide x equivalent span of oil can diameter (for the length) x .25” vertical leg. This is usually available at most metal supply stores. Bond this sheet metal angle to the inboard side of the oil can using JB Weld and attach with 3M Blue masking tape overnight. Once the JB Weld cures, remove the masking tape. Airframe & Powerplant Mechanics (FAA) are taught this repair for oil can conditions on aircraft except the primary difference is rivets are used instead of JB Weld.
@BruceLyeg Жыл бұрын
Excellent demo. I had to do some of this about a month ago on a new Mini that someone rolled onto its side as a prank. I spent an hour with a torch, a bucket of cold water and some rags. What a mess that thing was. I meant to try one of the pads that came with my induction heater but forgot. Have a great weekend!
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Honestly Bruce - when I figured this out it was a real game changer. I no longer feared a serious dent - everything could be fixed quickly and efficiently :)
@AcuraLvR82 Жыл бұрын
I noticed an oil can situation after butt welding a section of lower quarter on an Acura Integra. This was after grinding down the heads of the welds and knocking the seem down with hammer and dolly. But much to my amazement, the oil can went away after grinding off the extra paint along the seam in prep for fiberglass filler. After this been thinking about investing in a shrinking wheel, would like to see you try to use one in a future video. Thanks for another great video Jerry, have a great weekend.
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
I'll do that - thanks for the suggestion Paul - have a great weekend :)
@RustyGlovebox Жыл бұрын
That's a great technique to fix it and no more popping panel. Take care
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching RG - have a great weekend :)
@InverJaze Жыл бұрын
Jerry you make that look so simple. Experience is key here.
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words IJ - thanks :)
@pstreetgarage7304 Жыл бұрын
Great technique Jerry !! I have had this issue before, great demo.
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching PSG. Hope all is well :)
@firstgenerationgarage2803 Жыл бұрын
What a great video Jerry and with the Hammer 🔨 you gave me I can do the job now thanks my teacher you are the best
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Did you happen to get the email with the correct hammer handle for that broken one. You could probably get away with gluing it too. Have a great week - didn't get the title yet - hopefully this week :)
@firstgenerationgarage2803 Жыл бұрын
@LakesideAutobody yes I did Jerry and thanks you forgot to sign the hammer for me
@805ROADKING Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Bud!! We gotta get you a bottle of Mapp Gas!! Use that Propane for a lil' BBQ Grill and we'll Burgers for lunch!!☻
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
What I really need is one of those little oxy ace kits in the red plastic carrier. Just haven't broke down and purchased one yet :)
@davidray4655 Жыл бұрын
Last time I researched that, there is only 150 degree difference in heat between map gas and butane
@gm-lb9oe Жыл бұрын
Cant thank you enough Jerry, have a great weekend
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
You're welcome GM - thanks for always checking out the latest video :) You have a good weekend too my friend 👍
@moparnut6286 Жыл бұрын
Great work Jerry have an awesome weekend!
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 You too MN.
@courtneylewis9500 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing that with us, looking forward to your next video
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching every week Courtney - have a good weekend :)
@joewolf4483 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to be concerned about insulation or flammables inside the door?
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Sometimes... That's why (I should have mentioned) you should have a hole that you can look through or blow air through if you notice smoke, lingering heat, etc. Usually there's always a small hole or something you can look through and blow air to snuff anything out :)
@oldbiker9739 Жыл бұрын
have a great week end
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
You too Old Biker 😊
@UndergroundPaintKing Жыл бұрын
Great video Jerry! your channel should be much bigger than what it is, it is so much great information on your channel!
@yeayeasautoadventures Жыл бұрын
autobodytrainingsolutions as well king
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that UPK. Yours too - you really are one of the best painters on YT. I think there's a limit when it comes to auto body channels - I don't get a lot of female viewers - maybe like 2%. That's 1/2 the population not even thinking about watching a video. Maybe if I was real buff and tan or something 💪
@UndergroundPaintKing Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody 😂 you would think the information is enough but you really have to have some type of gimmick to grow on this platform
@yeayeasautoadventures Жыл бұрын
@@UndergroundPaintKing @LakesideAutobody exactly,you would think people would want to learn and grow, but no, most just want to be entertained
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
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@yeayeasautoadventures Жыл бұрын
I never used heat like that, great info sir, have a great weekend
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching YeaYea. You have a good weekend too my friend :)
@yeayeasautoadventures Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody yessir its blazing hot in texas
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
@@yeayeasautoadventures Wow!! it's miserable all the way up here in Michigan - you must be dying 🥴
@yeayeasautoadventures Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody yep 109 here
@bradstaffotd4715 Жыл бұрын
Great little video nice job keep up the good work
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad - have a good weekend :)
@BryanClark-gk6ie Жыл бұрын
Ok Jerry I just had a thought' do you think you could weld a nut to the panel and crank/twist it to draw/shrink the metal and then grind the nut off?
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Interesting thought.... I'll bet if the metal was still quite hot, that would eat up some metal. Like a stud welder but you could throw a wrench on it real quick, give it a twist, cool it, done! Start the patent process 😊
@PhillipHall01 Жыл бұрын
Another good video Lakeside! Thanks!! Phillip Hall
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Phillip 😊
@PhillipHall01 Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody I thank you for putting out all this good stuff…
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipHall01 You're welcome - hopefully eventually I'll cover all the pitfalls one would come across in auto body repair. It's crazy how many ?s need to be answered :)
@jj-hb8cy Жыл бұрын
I've used a wood "Dolly" on the back side and whacked the front side with a pick to eliminate oil canning. Apart from the dimples, do you think this changes the panel shape much differently than using the fire?
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea and I think it would have the same affect. The only downside is that you can't always get to the back side of a panel. Other than that, 'Good thinkin'!" 😊
@jj-hb8cy Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobodyyour right, I didn't even think of that. Just letting you know, I've been practicing on my beater car and your videos are the best I've found with no bs and getting to the point. Keep it up brother, and thanks!
@scottrussell4488 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, excellent demo.
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it - thanks for watching :)
@johnmartin5153 Жыл бұрын
great vid man
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@rodmacisaac596311 ай бұрын
Thanks Jerry 👍😎
@LakesideAutobody11 ай бұрын
You're welcome Rod - have a good weekend :)
@abdulmuis6991 Жыл бұрын
Wow mantap dan Kren hadir nyimak video nya kawan sukses dan sehat selalu sahabat selamat beraktifitas 🙏🙏👍👍👍
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Senang Anda menyukai videonya teman saya. Halo dari Michigan ✌
@Blue10AEMia7 ай бұрын
Was that a flap wheel on the angle grinder?
@LakesideAutobody7 ай бұрын
That is a fiber resin disk - it's what all body shops use for removing paint, and scratching up the metal really well to prepare for filler. A lot of times you'll see guys on YT using and actual angle grinder - this is a buffer/sander. You won't see an electric angle grinder in a body shop - that more of a fabrication tool - i.e. building trailers, cutting angle iron, etc. The list of tools and materials are always listed in the video description :)
@my357mags Жыл бұрын
👍
@danielsmith2447Ай бұрын
What about the parts inside the door that are getting heated too?
@LakesideAutobodyАй бұрын
I've never ran into a situation where the heat destroyed something in the panel. Maybe some smoke or even a flame or two from burning undercoat but that's it. Make sure you keep an eye on the inside - you can quickly put out any flames with a quick shot of compressed air through a small hole or access.
@danielsmith2447Ай бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks, I took the door panel off so I could keep a closer eye
@johnmartin5153 Жыл бұрын
are you using 80 grit ?
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
To remove paint and prep for filler use 36 or 40 grit fiber resin disks on somewhat slow speed - don't want to build to much heat. All tools and materials are listed in the video description if interested :)
@johnmartin5153 Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you !
@duckhunter8387 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@jamesmarques7245 Жыл бұрын
I shrink the metal with a stud gun. Put some heat, then cool it down with a little water on a rag.
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Good idea - next time I'll give it a try. Thanks for the tip James ✌
@ukexbreakdownman Жыл бұрын
good job could call it jerry canning
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
👍😊
@ItchyKneeSon Жыл бұрын
What is 'oil canning'?
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
It's where the panel pops in and out because it was somewhat stretched in an accident. After you bump or pull a dent, sometimes you'll notice that the newly repaired area pops in or pops out. That's not good! This is how you can fix it :) It's actually called shrinking sheet metal 👍
@sidney9534 Жыл бұрын
I found shrinking disc better, cheaper and more forgiving (as a beginner with no previous equipment)
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sidney - have a good weekend :)
@spydermike72 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry, get in touch with me, this is Mike Terry
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike - what's going on? Email me your number - schoolvideolibrary@gmail.com
@spydermike72 Жыл бұрын
on the way
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
@@spydermike72 👍
@Deadbuck73 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even know what oil canning is!
@LakesideAutobody Жыл бұрын
That is where a panel will pop in and out after bumping or pulling a dent because of stretched metal from the accident. There's too much metal now for the area so it pops in and out. It's also called shrinking metal :)
@Deadbuck73 Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody ahhhh… that makes sense. That’s a cool technique to remedy it! I learned something! Thank You!