Easy Shower Pan Liner: Tile Coach Episode 9

Instructional video on installing a PVC pan liner for a tiled shower pan. This can be done by a handiman or DIY. It is very important to follow all steps, as a leak can cause thousands of dollars in damage!
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[@fit4life939]

Im 56 been doing this for over 30 + years and i love learning and watching.like this guys attitude .

[@andrewblack7852]

Thanks Isaac! I’m making my 5th bathroom and your videos answer many questions . Last one was a solid slab shower with lineal drain. This one is a large wet room.

[@dirtbiketj]

Fantastic help! I tore out my shower and am rebuilding it. Your videos are so helpful! Thank you and God Bless you Isaac

[@jwingo7257]

Thanks for showing how to use those pre-formed corners. Love that you share your knowledge. Isaac, you are a good man.

[@richardjohnson6584]

Old Orange County ca tile setter !!, nice videos !! Hot mop is still the best !! , Your a good mechanic !! , it’s good to see !! Thanks , Rick

[@TorturedPeace]

Love the attitude! When you still want to keep learning, then you are on your way to doing a great job!

[@bentonheath6843]

I had a shower installer use concrete bricks instead of 2x4 at the opening. Pretty much the same after that. In retrospect, seeing wood rot, bricks is a great idea.

[@mmmaggik]

Thanks for the info man my boss asked me to tile his bathroom and I haven’t done tile in 6 years (been a concrete guy since). Putting in the membrane right now appreciate the video

[@malcolmbeaton5933]

Thank you for sharing. Your knowledge is not falling on deaf ears.

[@JohnDoe-kp3sw]

I like when tradesmen can admit there may be a better way. I learn something every day

[@impeccable1648]

Thanks Isaac! I laid down my slope layer and pan yesterday. Going to float walls today!

[@vinnythehandyman]

Nice detail with your shower liner. I remember when you used to tar your old showers.

[@ronrawlinson8578]

Thanks for the step by step explanations. I'm a DIY'er tackling a shower rebuild for the first time. It started as regrouting the floor, we all know how that goes. I've watched a few videos here and yours is the only one that fully explains how the corner protectors are installed. Thanks again.

[@tedspens]

Nice corner detail. I get the liner stapled in place then make my cuts and glue in the corner, but I like your way better, the way it overlaps.

[@LuisGonzalez-zz1bn]

Nice work. I can’t wait to work on my shower. And thanks for teaching me.

[@stevefreeman6186]

Best illustration of using those corner thingies that I've seen yet. Well done!

[@ashleytuskey3557]

Thank you for your video. First time doin this and your saving my life right now!

[@nancylee509]

That video was very helpful you made it look so easy which I'm sure it's not .I wish I could find someone as talented in my area to work on my shower

[@user-lf7en6rf8m]

Thank you coach. Im new to shower pans but i love the trades and definitely need help/ guidance at times,

[@jmmadison1]

Great video. Alot better than the others I watched for this drain. Great job, I feel very good about installing it now

[@mohamedkhan3545]

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[@jaijai7367]

I would love a buy list in your notes! Thank you, your videos make me feel that I can do this myself!

[@mikemeazell5653]

I installed mine on a rainy day so I through it the dryer 1st to heat it up worked great

[@bradleybowden1981]

Just subscribed to your channel, absolutely love your stuff man. I've been involved in construction for several years and love to see people take joy in their work!!!

[@ManuelTorres-rq1iw]

Same here

[@lahlithflores4837]

Our constructive method in Brazil is different, full of freshness, Admire and study the American methods and I regret that this type of input so simple adopted in America does not reach my country and when it arrives has prohibitive prices. I study your methods and create parallel alternatives to our reality with items common to our daily lives. Registered now

[@brianfrench1589]

I strictly use Schluter products from the pan to the wall boards and niches and curbs. You can install and start tiling that same day except the curbs because you have to allow to dry. I have been tiling for since 2013 and still learning the way they change and improve their products. Good to see how the old way is done since I'm taking over a homeowner attempt at the shower pan, which is this rubber membrane. Vary helpful thank you.

[@shawnsmith3283]

Yup... .. but... purple board? If your gonna do a shower...do it right. Who uses drywall anymore? I get called to rip it out. Now u know why. It's a moisture wick.

[@linkin1980]

Nice folding work on those curb corners I do exactly the same. I watch your channel always good to learn more updated!!!

[@rostileinstallationrobsons3348]

believe that's don't work we'll like this's back wall folding side wall's under the curb cutting extra material make much better work like that

[@robertbuffington6977]

Thanks for the way you do your curbs, that's what I was looking for. Mine are always fat because I keep more of the liner... P.S.... a faster way of cutting out your bolts and drain hole..., cut a cris-cross +.. across the top of the bolts and they just pop right through. And then cut your drain the same way, Then drop the flange down, and follow your direction of tightening down the bolts. You have no waste, and you have a tighter seal with all the liner getting pinned between the flanges!

[@josafatalvarez3728]

Thank you 4 your videos...I'm tryng to convert my tub shower in to a walk in so I'm watching all your videos related to this.

[@winksfitnessworldcoachwink7748]

Fantastic presentation! Great video angles, excellent explanation of the process! 🏆

[@craigpoer]

"Sometimes its a little tricky" that is the nicest I've ever heard that said..

[@OhGeeKevin]

Thanks for everything man I feel better and doing this myself. I love people like you who don’t gatekeeper trade knowledge. Thank you so much keep it up!

[@raymondmaglaris4149]

How do you put tile on that surface

[@porcelinaofthevastoceans3903]

@@raymondmaglaris4149 You dont. You put a mortar bed over that liner first. Let it dry. Then tile goes on mortar bed.

[@raymondmaglaris4149]

@@porcelinaofthevastoceans3903 wow ez pz makes a lot of sense

[@BS-detector]

Thank you for making these videos! I'm not able to do this kind of work myself, but just seeing how it's done will be very helpful when choosing a contractor. (We'd love to hire YOU, but we're in Oregon!)

[@karenpayne3946]

You Rock!!! Been doing tile 40 years and you do it right!!!! and I'm just a girl.

[@davedhani6124]

Tile Coach you're the BOSS! Thank you for all the tutorials. I have a right sloping drain on 5 foot tub I want to replace with a walk-in shower pan. The current drain plumbing on the far right is about 8 inches from the wall. How do I slope the pan back to the drain?

[@donnyh3497]

There's so many half assed videos on this out there. I am definitely doing it just like this!

[@samuelallison4365]

You do great jobs for tile industry, thanks 🙏

[@hartilife]

socket for bolts helps, we use a hot mop to seal pans up to the blocking, have never used a liner yet on a pan but nice job bro!

[@jwkehm]

Great video. You're one of the few who explained how to cover the curb.

[@cubancigar14i9]

I learned the trade from my dad and the tricky part that I cant seem to find an instructional video on is after I put the rubber liner on the curb. When I go to wrap it with cement board what would be the proper way of cement boarding the inside curb??? I can send you my email if youd rather respond through that I know everyone on the internet is an opinionated inspector.

[@josephmerkle398]

@@cubancigar14i9 you can buy pre formed curbs bro. You should check them out. Drop the pan in seal it up and drop your preformed curb on top and nail to the front of the curb not the top or inside.

[@cubancigar14i9]

@@josephmerkle398 thanks for the reply, I've used those pre foamed curbs too but I mean in the instances where I'm wrapping 2x4 curbs with cement board. I'm curious to hear how other guys screw there curbs together when they wrap it with cement board

[@Daniel-wd4jg]

Finally a real tile setter and a real mud set pan. Only suggestion 24 hr. water test.

[@kurtismoeller1512]

Once you’ve done it a handful of time with no failure. You know these are good, it’s extremely hard to pierce the liner. Where’s the water going to go? Clients want the job done yesterday. If there no inspection there’s no need. If it’s liquid applied or sealant than yes always water test.

[@Daniel-wd4jg]

@@kurtismoeller1512 Building permit requirements

[@namsternammysayle2265]

I hear ya but a linear drain is the way to go. Besides how many people are diligent about cleaning their shower drains. It's generally only if they start to drain slow. If you are one of the very few that clean their drain regularly then there won't be any surprises no matter what style you install. I like the fact that the base is on a bit of a slope instead of angled sides plus not having to stand in the dirty bath water while it drains in the centre. I installed a shower for my Dad that utilizes a walker, the linear drain allowed me to eliminate a threshold for him to step over by installing the drain along the far wall. What a great application. Each to his own, though, but to me, it is the way to go. I like the fact that you can install the tile into it so only a small drain slit is visible.

[@rcp916]

Dude I went to roseville high. Trip to see a KZbin vid and hear a local reference. Thanks for the video bro I’m remodeling my bathroom and needed this!

[@Apexjasonmorganllc]

Good job brother,Love to see guys using a preslope...this is right

[@doodnathbansavatar1277]

Awesome,SPECTACULAR, Beautiful Handiwork excellent workmanship.

[@davidwood2081]

I thank you those are very clear Instructions

[@Traumatic911]

Dewalt Flex Torque 40 piece are awesome impact bits. They don't jump out like that of the other bits i've used.

[@mikeberish8873]

That's a nice job My name is Mike a been at this for 44 years and 61 when still in good shape to continue on doing great work with marble and granite. What was very important back when I was your age is I took galvanized wire laugh and bent it over the curb classically and then I'm rise It off the curb and then re bend it tighter when I've noticed is as you put it back in you don't need any nails isn't that special. The edge of a cut wire laugh is teat a factory edge of the material is in the shower floor area the exterior part is what's cut normally it's about 10" wide and probly 4' long. Now think of the idea of mixing sand and cement with an set and putting his scratch coat vertically and horizontally but not on the outside leave that for later.. Now the fun part is is a nonstick material which I liked use well me I have a sealed piece of plywood as you mud the inside vertical on the curb what you need to understand is that you could put brace wood clamps I'd old care but when you pull it after it dries guess what happens you have a beautiful surface to tile on is and a great.. And by the way there's a trick to the trade out good at makes your sand and cement for your dry pack into buckets by using your drill think about it political water and add a little samat makes it up by your screeds makes little more up guess what you don't have to chop it up with a whole anymore it's pretty simple to do just learn how to do-it-yourself because you guys are good at what you do thank you.

[@pokey70291]

I'm a retired contractor. Never did bathrooms. I learned some great stuff. Thanks!!!! Going to watch more of your videos now while I am doing my own home bathroom. Rule one....Do a great job Rule two....Get your money y'all You really can't do one without the other.

[@michaelm5601]

House keeper are also men. They are called Cleaning staff. Maids are what they were called in the day. Thanks for this video was very helpful. I have used this liner material before. This is the best product I have found to date. I feel like my next tile job will be better. Thanks Again.

[@cbdoil4082]

I replace a few showers a year that have been done like this. I used to curse at this. Now, it’s job security! Thanks man!!

[@jamesderbaum9678]

Thank goodness for KZbin, It's job security for me. I'll be behind these guys

[@marcfavell]

@@TileCoach no way that purple moisture resistant drywall will last 10 years max or full 1 water leak...that would not fly in my area can't use drywall products in wet areas at all its only protected 1 side.

[@marcfavell]

And you should have went higher over the bench with the pvc liner

[@qball3835]

@@marcfavell Dude, it was a perfectly fine PAN install. And No, he didn't have to use the PAN liner to go over the bench. This was not a video of the water proofing of the shower. If it had been I would be right there with you. However, if I were to do this, I would use Kerdi or Redguard membrane over the drywall and bench to drain into the pan. However, for the purposed of this video he didn't show the rest of the shower install.

[@bfpeake933]

@@marcfavell first thing I was gonna say... Hardy is the chit!

[@bfpeake933]

@@qball3835must be nice to just blow time and money for a video not properly done then. Myabe his company charges so much that they can just afford extra liner material???

[@semperfi7184]

Good work brother that's how it's done thanks for sharing

[@spicyhot1695]

Another fantastic video. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@mnhklose]

Great video! A trick I picked up, is to just cut an “X” over the drain hole and fold the liner flaps down into the drain. The ring will ensure they stay folded down. Just an extra measure.

[@vic1sch]

The ring will not hold the pan down. I am also failing to see what extra protect that is providing. Also putting the silicone on the bottom flange of the drain before having the pan i place seems like a bad idea as well. Cutting the hole out for the drain properly allows you to lift the pan after it is secured to the walls and apply the silicone exactly where it is needed.

[@ChrisXCXCX]

I guess if you cut. Perfect O the theory is water may run back under it as it drains. Who knows

[@vidaliasoleil2714]

Another experiment for the tile coach to do!

[@spencerhansen8374]

@@vic1sch the caulk groove is exactly where it needs to be, how are you planning to change that by not caulking first. Fighting it later doesn't help.

[@vic1sch]

@@spencerhansen8374 The caulk groove? That groove is for the pan to be clamped down with the ridge on the clamp ring. The silicon bead should be between the grove and bolt holes. All pans are water tested for 24 hrs using a test ball. Test balls are used to ensure if a drain backs up the water won't leak under the pan. The inspector makes sure the pan drains and the weep holes are open. In 47 years I have never failed a pan inspection.

[@alexandermendez154]

Thanks man ur doing great beautiful work keep up the good work blessings

[@jasbirvirk9769]

Your videos are goo&practically sound.Good job.

[@JimBoydNomad]

So different to how we do it in Aus. Great workmanship 🤙 we normally sheet the room with cement board (villa board) then caulk any seams, joins or screws and then paint on a waterproof membrane. It gives a even flat finish to tile on. For the floors we the lay a sand cement screed on top for falls. So interesting how different things are done

[@luket6405]

This is also done this way in the US. I’m going to be doing exactly that (except I’ll be doing a hard pack floor over a pan liner) but otherwise the same

[@davidcoleman2031]

I would like to see you showing viewers how to use a poured concrete curb with the pan liner run up in the middle of the curb. This I a way used to ensure pan doesn't get damaged or have a curb leak

[@MrCcarter7]

Awesome instructional video! Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise! God bless in Jesus'name bro!

[@Apexjasonmorganllc]

We do things a lot a like,i never use wood on my curb though i form it and pour a solid concrete curb

[@denverdanoreno]

Good production, stay humble.

[@davidgonzales6793]

I really appreciate you posting the videos up. It has helped me immensely. I am at the stage of installing the shower pan linear and have it exactly where you are in this video. My question is How do you seal the pan linear where it meats the backboard. A colleague of mine says the pan linear needs to be under the backer board so it does not leak.

[@rebeccamcallister8038]

Well Done! Now if I could find a company with your integrity and work ethics to replace my shower floor! I really feel this is way to high over my head for me to do!

[@olk3]

Excellent explanation, thank you!

[@aaronaldrich1546]

Thanks brother, I needed to see this!

[@mikesacco8457]

Isacc. Here’s 1 for ya. continuity wires. It’s something customers LOVE. In short without much detail unless you want that. Run wires to the areas that leak the most over time. Run to shower valve. You can run 1 or several sets of wires. Pull cover off and use a tester to see if water has leaked under pan. Sounds crazy but it keeps workers from cheating. Customers get a extra service per say. In short it’s a water alarm. You can also do this but there’s pros and cons to it. For 30 yrs plus in construction plus. The biggest is customer satisfaction. It’s always a step above the rest. And if correct your in CA. Same here. Some strict codes. Let alone customers

[@joeyflores2572]

Keep up the good work! Friendly tip: try using a rubber dead blow hammer and gently hit the top of bolts to make a very fast exact fit. 👍🏻

[@larrykelly2010]

Like the use of the existing materials to counter the prefab corners

[@papahansel3136]

You’re a good dude and I like your channel

[@doloresbankson8350]

Thanks for your show me - really helps alot

[@ibuxbaum]

Thanks for the video. Very well explained

[@goldengoat1737]

Sweet dude thanks for the video! Gonna give this a shot

[@TLSS78]

Hey bro this was a great video the best i have seen so far. Great work. 🤜🤛

[@omarmachado5364]

Thanx for the up load, awesome job

[@alexflores8293]

Great video good job 👍 and thanks for sharing!!

[@jojoc942]

Great work bro very informable teacher in the trade

[@MuhammadAli-of5ef]

Thanks bro Tomorrow I am gonna do it by myself for my New bathroom.

[@chloesamclutch]

I just ripped out a shower in our new to us modular house in Florida. Difference was, they used Portland cement and tile above the liner. This wouldn't have been so bad, except the plumbing leaked inside the wet wall, trashing the flooring under the shower. I will have to redo the whole thing. Also no vapor liner was used. They just tiled over the regular sheet rock which also was fine, although I would have used mold resistant. I'm going to try solid sheets with a seat similar to what you have here. My layout is flip flopped, wet wall is on the right side looking at the shower from the front.

[@bowser3267]

Awsome reminds me of roofing i do commercial roofing and hand weld pvc and tpo materials at corners and ac curbs on roofs we call those corners hog ears I wonder if an 0.60 thickness pvc membrane can be used as a liner . I know I can make that waterproof and hand weld the corners with a heat gun . Love your videos hopefully be doing my bathrooms over in my new house thanks to your videos

[@daveuribe7831]

Hey exactly how i do it, but i did get a good laugh when you used chanel locks to tighten the drain flange that was funny. Ok and hot mopping is still probably the best way to seal my opinion.

[@RC11759]

Would like to know do I do the curb with fat mud before the upper level pack mud or first the packing mud and then the curb sides on top . Thank you very much for your help. I enjoy all your videos and the dedication it takes to do make them very good inspiration.

[@LUckybones25]

I don’t know why I’m watching this, but I enjoy your videos.

[@ernestasante2259]

Great video. Wish you showed how to put the liner on the shower bench as well though

[@nicholassalmons9578]

@tilecoach have really been enjoying your videos! thank you! I'm a carpenter and tiler that got most of his experience tiling in Vermont 5+ years agoand trying to make the transition to CA code.. curious to know - could you line the shower enclosure with fiberboard before floating your masonry shower pan and then just coat the entire pan and fiberboard w/ 2-3 coats paint-on sealer like red-guard instead of the liner you have here and the moisture-resistant drywall? That is how I would be inclined to do this same application but wonder if there's something wrong with that...

[@Pologarcía96]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge my friend, I really appreciate your videos.👍

[@CCDP777]

Thanks brother God bless you

[@lenninhernandez740]

good job thanks for the help

[@alacrandelosllanosgamefowl676]

Great video man

[@shhaiwatoumcibian]

Awesome job

[@bigskyab]

thanks for the vid Isaac....nice to see quality info being put out there.

[@joseluisescoto9601]

Te felicito excelente tutorial, saludos

[@danielbroos6874]

Good job on the pan.

[@petergetinard4811]

Love ya Bro!

[@budrho123]

How do you account for the difference in thickness between the liner and the board above it when installing the tile?

[@marshallz4]

i use small rocks, gravel 1/4" max around the weep holes while sand mix goes on. its a good trick. peace

[@120181827]

very hot teacher

[@lexluther2347]

I was taught the same. 👍🏻

[@kendavies3313]

If when you get to the the curb fold of liner, don't make your cut on the liner straight up, instead cut liner(3rd)layer back horizontally towards back of shower so when it folds over curb you have that piece now up the curbs wall

[@vapdivrr5656]

What do you think of installing the 2x4 curb about 3/4 short of the wall on both sides ( so basically the 2x4's don't go all the way left and right) now when installing the liner you can tuck the liner in that gap ? This can enable the liner to be completely seamless over the curb and the side of the curb where you had used those patches.....I have done it both ways , but like the tuck method. I round the edge of the 2x4 at the top also, so its not to sharp against the liner.

[@daltonlopez4623]

Much Love brother. Thank you

[@brianhenery9288]

Man i learned so much just watching you do it and break it down as you done it. Great instructions, and awesome video! Thanks 🙏🏻

[@edsetton8007]

Thanks for the video. Very helpful! I noticed that you have the moisture/mildew resistant drywall on the walls. Will you be installing tile? If so, how will you waterproof the walls? Thanks for you feedback.

[@coreyphillips6472]

Awesome video. Only recommendation I have is to tell the audience that the bottom board (in my opinion/experience) should be 1/4” to cover the liner. It’s easier to build the bottom row/rows of tile out instead of putting 1/2” on like the rest of the showe and the board being kicked out too much because it’s on the liner. I love your videos, learned a lot

[@captainawesom3]

I am running into this issue, wondering how I transition from the tile on the wall to the bottom ~10 inches of tile over my pan liner. So you're saying drop down to 1/4" for the bottom piece of Durok? Could I just build up the walls on the bottom 10 inches with mud in order to make it flush to the 1/2" walls?