EASY Strategy to Scoring Better Rounds in Disc Golf | Beginner Tips and Tutorials

[@tbut1095]

What a pull on the Randy Johnson bird reference haha! RIP to that bird

[@shaneroberts8668]

Played my first tournament. It was 44 holes, 2 rounds. Threw 4 birdies and scored a +42 which was under my +50 goal. Made shots I would never make due to your videos and made me feel more confident in my upshot and putt game

[@coltonmandell4829]

+42?

[@JakeKoenig]

Everybody has to start somewhere. I remember shooting 25-30 over at some courses 10 years ago when I started playing, and I've shot under par on almost all of them since then. Keep at it, you'll get a lot better.

[@getschwiftyinhere8452]

I play professionally.... in ma2 lol, even after playing disc golf for 27 years and only being 41 years old I still get solid advice from your videos and learn new things everyday.

[@ericwalter2944]

Just applied this strategy during my lunch round. Played from the whites and set a personal record (-3). Bogey free. Thank you KZbin Man!

[@timeandspacevintage3380]

This has taken me a while to accept because all my friends throw ALOT further than me but this concept has made disc golf a lot less stressful. There's a few 400 foot wooded par 3 on my home course and I have just mentally made them par 4s because I simply can not get a look for 3 with my current skillset and that's OK. It's just so hard going to tags or something and accepting that you might be the worst there but every one is on their own journey in this sport!

[@billcoulter1984]

I used your par strategy today, even though I’ve never shot even par for 18 holes. It helped. My score was 2 shots better than my average at the course I played, pretty good considering I was playing in 12-15 mph winds. What I found was that it took the pressure of thinking I had to throw a great shot away. My max distance right now is just under 300’ with my average good throws 240-250. On those 300’ + holes I was still trying for max distance but I told myself that halfway to the hole is all I must have. It freed me up to throw smooth and my accuracy and distance benefitted from that thought. Thanks Robbie, your helping me get better. I’m a 65 yo disc golfer who’s ate up with the game and ate up with trying to improve!

[@TommyThwack]

I’ve been playing for a little while but I’m about 10 years older than the rest of my friends that play, so naturally I have a bit less power. We all joined the local handicap league, but the course was a bomber course and I was getting frustrated even playing for par was 2 of my max distance shots. However, we recently changed to a tight wooded course and even though I can only throw 225-250 accurately what I can do is throw an under stable midrange 175 feet dead straight 95% of the time. some people give me a bit of a hard time for throwing the same disc for 70% of my shots. I get a fair number of bogeys but almost never get doubles+ so since we changed courses I’ve won 1 night and top 3 x2 and top 5 x2. I don’t call it an attack hole strategy but I only pull out my 9+ speed when the miss is into an open area where I have a good upshot anyway. Been having a lot more fun :)

[@FlyingMonkeyDG]

What a video. Some of these tips I was trying to give my girlfriend as we were playing in her first tournament. Didn’t listen to me, but she loves Robbie’s tips, so this is perfect! Thanks RC!

[@discbee9107]

My favorite video of yours, love the mental strategy tips. Can’t wait to try

[@1033168]

shot six down for the first time ever a couple days ago by doing just this.. so I love hearing about applying this with a more detailed plan

[@bowebevonius]

I like this strategy. Since I have only played for a year and was 56 when I started I think to myself “Every par is a win”. My home course is pretty heavily wooded and considered a pretty hard course. It has multiple holes with double doglegs which can be frustrating for a rookie. It would be nice to see you draw and explain how to pick landing zones on some fictional holes. An example, we have a 620ft hole: 150 ft straight (with a 30 ft drop in elevation), right 90 degrees continuing 150 ft, left 90 degrees continuing 280 ft, left 30 degrees, 40ft to the basket with a 10 ft drop. You can try to make the first turn in one shot (risking to push long into into the wood if you miss the turn, making it impossible to make the second turn), if you land on the fairway you can try to make turn two (again, pushing wide and you are in a mess. If you are on the fairway past the two turns you have the chance to birdie if you can pass a little ridge and hit the pit. But the are so many ifs along the way. I know the par strategy for this hole but it would be interesting to se drawings of fictional holes where you explain the landing zones for reaching par. Thanks for another great video 👍

[@connors83]

"Clutch players embrace clutch moments." Such an impactful statement. Can't tell you how many competitors I've seen back down from big moment because they're afraid of missing a putt. Winners step up with full confidence and either make it or miss it. It doesn't always work, but you need that confidence in order to give yourself the best possible chance of making it. You want to make the putt, right?

[@innerlightflip]

Really great narrative and flow on this video Robbie! Very easy to follow and absorb. My mantra-ish version of this is "I'd rather choose a 3 than take a 4". Or, say I'm already in trouble, choose a bogey rather than force it and take a double. It helps mer reassure myself that I'm in control, even if things go a bit awry, each shot is a new chance for a good decision!

[@normandorian4103]

I love this strategy and score much better since implementing it. However it requires to absolutely park every upshot to get the par. I need to get my drive as far as possible to keep the upshot and the subsequent putt at a reasonable distance.

[@rlt4life67]

I can't wait to actually get on a course and play. I'm just getting into disc golf and have a few discs but haven't played yet. Love your videos man.

[@NickCarroll]

I love the name "personal par" because I've found a number of holes in my experience that I practically have no chance of parring, so I write those off as a bogey, and play to ensure I get that score. Often it's easier to get a single bogey on those holes than it is to get par on many other holes, so it also brings down the stress when playing it.

[@stevenkitchensphotography9319]

I recently found myself doing this without trying. My mental game is always play for par. If I birdie then awesome. I’m not so great off the tee but my upshot’s and putts are very good. Throw ins are my thing. I’m like Greg barsby out there. I shot -10 recently with an eagle on a 400ft shot so I think having that mindset is making me better and I’m working on my form for drives. So I can only go up from here! Hopefully

[@Thiivi13]

Perfect timing on this video for me. Might be playing my first tournament this weekend at one of my home courses. I will definitely be using this strategy!

[@Phyco8]

Playing for par is perfect advice for MA3 on dificult courses. I Took second place in a tourney where I planned to take bogey (4) on 2 holes. The holes were long and dog legged with protected greens. The tournament changed these holes to par 4s and I Managed to card the only 3 on the day on one of the holes.

[@williamfowler8686]

I rewatch videos on this channel more than on any other channel because you make resources I need to revisit for my game. This another one will probably rewatch over and over in the months to come. Good stuff brother.

[@NickCarroll]

Dividing par 3 holes into half might be too conservative on many occasions. I tend to go for a comfortable 80% throw, and disc down for the first drive on a hole. I might get 200-230' on that throw, and a easy sub-100' upshot. Or I might find certain landing zones or enlarged fairway areas, and aim for them instead.

[@JumboJabs]

I have my first tourney in 2 weeks and your videos have been helping me a ton. Hopefully everything goes well. Super nervous but excited to play.

[@swfldgfan]

I played my first tournament a couple months ago and felt the same way that you do now. My advice would be to remember to breathe. Look at Missy Gannon from the FPO field, she visibly takes a deep breath before every shot. You don't have to go that far, but just try to relax before each shot. Also, I found that discing down helped me, because I was so nervous and excited I was juicing my throws but missing the fairway every time. Like Robbie is saying, just break the holes down into manageable chunks and play for par, whatever that means to you. Good luck and remember to have fun!

[@JumboJabs]

@@swfldgfan Thank you for the advice. I'll definitely keep all of this in mind. Breathe 💨

[@davidkelly4269]

"its just another round" hopefully its a course you are comfortable at just go in and play your game. set a goal of like top half and you may surprise yourself. go get those practice rounds in lol

[@stevenosmond2168]

This is one of the best messages you have brought to newer and/or slow arm players. Its a strategy I have been embracing for the last 2 years. I live in Michigan and I wish I could find a coach like you.

[@adielcerriteno1990]

Approaching with my harp helped me a ton. And working on that up shot to park an easy par has been my best improvement. Every now n then I smoke my drive and birdie but I almost always par thanks to my short putts

[@JakeKoenig]

I've been playing for about 12 years, and I can't imagine anything overstable being a beginner disc, unless someone has a really strong arm right out of the gate, which most players won't, and if they don't start out throwing at an angle toward the natural fade, which most players will. Beginners do best with understable or neutral discs in my experience, unless you're playing in super windy conditions. Once they can start shaping 300+ shots, then start throwing the beefy discs. "Playing for par" depends on the hole. If it's really technical and/or really long, playing for par is best. But you gotta attack those birdie holes because everyone else in your group will be. The guys I play with are shooting 8-12 under on most courses so I can't be playing for par very often.

[@bobbydavis1725]

I like the strategy, but I would focus on a distance off the tee that is comfortable for you. 300 foot hole, I know I can throw a putter reliably 250 ft. That allows me to pitch up into a manageable C1 putt. Easy pars baby!

[@calebdyer6332]

I agree with your ideas about splitting into 2 shots but I would add that they don’t always need to be the same distances. For example I played one 480’ par 3. I could have thrown two 240 foot shots for birdie. Instead I threw one 350-380 foot shot and one 100-130 foot shot. I think it’s better to get a little over half way on your first shot where accuracy less important

[@Marekval]

I think you mean par4

[@diamundgal]

Such a timely video! Definitely looking forward to deeing how this improves my mental game!

[@Bluetrojan01]

This is absolute GOLD, Robbie! Thanks!

[@Footfaultmaster]

Love this strategy!! I’ve been re watching a lot of your beginner tournaments prep videos. I got to try this

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

Yes play for par nets a general game of 6 par holes to 3 Birdie holes.. or vice versa.. at our local 9 hole course. I also practice mainly outside circle approaches and putts - 1 day a week some intense driving if I feel like it. We have one par 4 but I play it par 3 and rest are par 3 on Udisc - (the signs at the course.. different story.. 2 par 5s !!! ) . I haven't lost a disc in a year (since last September) as well with this strategy - we have river , swamp and weed forest hazards. I'm considered a beginner at least to me..as I gave myself 3 years to assess where I'm at starting last August.

[@stuartschwenke6656]

Love the strategy of practicing the approach and putts. I do the same that approach inside of X# of feet and putting.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

@@stuartschwenke6656 our local course does not have the 2 circles around the baskets.. going to go mark a few today - the 10 meter and 20 meter.. crucial to have 2nd circle putts IMO thanks for your reply !

[@bernan1]

Brilliant vid. Especially relevant for players who can't get to C2 regularly. It's interesting how people in lower divisions act as if they have to birdie holes that are playing over par for their field. Those are prime spots to make up throws on the field and, when played as such, really tends to take the stress off the hole. Meanwhile, those going for the birdie off the tee tend to get in trouble. This also extends to those in divisions who act as if they need to be under par to compete when their division podium are all consistently over par. Understanding how to win one's division is also understanding how to play within one's limitations. That said, this is where the distance advantage can be seen especially as distance tends to give one more attackable holes as one has the power to reach C2 on more holes. Which...makes those with less power have a smaller margin of error on those fewer attack holes. This makes those non-attack hole pars more valuable because it's harder to get back the strokes lost to bogies on those holes.

[@tayloredwards2330]

I agree with this strategy to an extent... it was mentioned by someone else, but the strategy for beginners to split a hole in half to par is dangerous. Beginners' upshot accuracy and putting accuracy isn't good enough to regularly get pars doing that. Then it's super frustrating to get a bogey even while playing safe. If it's open, bite off as much as you can on first shot. If it's tight, hit the gap and adapt gameplan from there. But as always, super helpful videos for both strategy and skill, keep em coming!

[@noseaksno4256]

A small thought that has almost always helped me is mastering, the lay up. I'm in the process of developing accuracy in my forehand and distance in my backhand. I'm working on getting a good, aggressive drive. I found getting comfortable with making the lay up shot from 100ft out with your most comfortable putter is MASSIVE in making par while practicing. I feel developing a versatile putter shot develops a confident player for scramble attempts.

[@Likecash]

I have used your strategy and never thought about it that way. When I play I am always playing for Par. On a Par 3 hole I will use 2 strokes to get to the hole and use one to putt. I do have a Par 3 hole that I have shortened and play it as a Par 2. It works for me and I am not beating myself up because I can never par it as a Par 3. I figure I am always playing scramble golf. One of these days when my distance is farther then I will adjust. Keep up the good videos.

[@brackeneuler6415]

This is a wonder concept and very helpful.

[@1nmcmurray]

Fantastic as always this is one I will revisit because although I know we've been in on conversations about all of this I realize I forget it in practice and fall into old habits trying to get under the basket off the tee on every hole.

[@bigolebigboi]

Played my first tournament a couple weeks ago in MA4 and definitely played for a lot of pars. I got third in my division!

[@Baddab25]

Great video. Curious as to how this applies to someone who has the YIPS in a tournament. Recently played a tournament were at one point I had a birdie look from C1 on 6 straight holes. I finished those six holes +1. I work on my putting all the time but come tournament play I feel like I have never putted in my life. Do I adjust the attack to say it is only attack if I am 5’ from the basket?

[@stuartschwenke6656]

Currently rated at 853 and mostly b/c of putting despite all the practice on the green. I will layup in C1 (sometimes too much) to prevent that catastrophe boggie. But, I am doing my homework and trying to match my Attack Holes with those "must get birdie" holes that some C-tier tournaments offer. Still, I am learning to take that C1 putt b/c I am forcing myself to make that comebacker. But, honestly, I lay up most 30ft b/c a tap in stress free drop-in par is better than a 15-20ft comebacker for par. So, for me the development and practice rounds are to create more opportunities by sliding that approach shot to the 15ft mark rather than trying to make a 30ft for birdie.

[@thulsey022]

That NEFFEX intro though. It sounded familiar to me then i was going through my KZbin Studio Library and ran across it. Awesome choice...Silas. I knew I had heard it before.

[@shawnbates7054]

Great video as always, Robbie! Your tips have made me rethink my approach, especially in competitive rounds. Thanks as always!

[@ptomeo]

Great video! Thanks for the advice

[@pibblesracing]

I've been taking the play for par strategy to heart, and I feel my game is better for it.

[@tylafontaine]

Deciding attack holes and what holes to play for par is also a great strategy for course management. When pro players are asked what they think a good score on the course is going to be, they are considering what holes they think are attackable and which ones most will probably play for par.

[@thediamondbackdad6183]

As an Arizona native and an Arizona Diamondbacks fan, I really appreciate the Randy Johnson reference! 🤣

[@remysmith6021]

🤝 this is advice I needed, thank you!

[@jakec5550]

Had a great time watching the video. Great advice as usual!

[@cutshallmacarons6874]

This is super helpful and really helps take some pressure off! In the future, I would love to see something for a more advanced player.

[@rjd1568]

Thank you Robbie

[@tarverator]

Excellent content, and THANK YOU for not ruining it with superfluous distracting background music! #accessibility

[@stuartschwenke6656]

This goes along with your much earlier video on starting at the basket and working your way back to the tee. For most of us MA4 and MA3, we really do need to embrace this. We are to strive for accuracy and consistency before we strive for max distance and birdies. By setting these kind of realistic strategies, we create less stress and more achievable results. On thing that I would like you to address, and maybe you have, is this: I have a tournament in 4-weeks, and I will have the opportunity to play the course 4 times. I am somewhat familiar with this course, and the TD has outlined the tees, baskets, and OB. How do we approach each of those practice rounds? When do we identify those Attack Holes? And when do we start practicing, as if it was a tournament?

[@HunterHhhhhhh]

Hey Robbie, my home course has 4 tee boxes and was wondering when I should move a tee back

[@discgolfsantafe]

Yaybo! Really good advice!

[@chrism4008]

I have this weird thing were if im playing alone, every single hole is a par 3 no matter what the distance or difficulty. Its something i heard back in the early 2000's and its been really hard to get myself to feel like more than 3 can be par. It probably messes me up some, lol I should be receiving my K1 soft flex-berger in the post soon. Ordered it after your video, i already liked them but never bagged one. So im gonna try it out!

[@dmac4278]

i am still very new and dont get the chance to play as often as i would like but i took this approach today on the course and will say i had a good look at par on every hole i played (missed them all) but that is from me not doing my putting practice at home like i should be....

[@discordye4825]

I play MA2 and your tips help me most days. Sometimes I try to do too many of your tips all at once and curse your name in my head...lmmfao.

[@holdthemustard2]

The Randy Johnson reference was **chefs kiss** perfect.

[@JeremyBurnett]

I will be testing this out on my next round. I have only been playing 2 months and my max distance is 270. So this seems like a solid strategy for me.

[@rmjx2]

This was my big change this year. I started the season in March as an 823 player with 11 events. I'm at 20 events and come this next update should be about 880ish. My last 5 rounds have all been 880-905. Still alot to work on but this strategy is how you play consistent rounds.

[@bobbybobman3073]

Recently used this strategy at my first ever league (or tournament) round and tied a personal best, and in so doing, managed to make some people think I am much better than I actually am. I also had an "attack hole" where par was the attack. But frankly I had to modify this for taking my most consistent lines, I don't have good touch on my 125-200 ft up shots, so I try to land either within 100ft or outside 200. Cause a jump putt is like 100ft for me and a stand still throw is about 200 -250ft. So with my distance I can comfortably be within 100' of most my holes off the tee while throwing 80-90%. But on the huge holes I just dial it back to make sure I have an upshot I will execute.

[@chadmannn1514]

This is a great video! One question I have is, I have a hole at my local course that is a island Mando. Well it’s 50 percent chance I’ll make it. Now the reason I say that is because it’s a forehand throw and I’m not super strong with it. However, there is a very very small line going backhand but if you get it your parked… My question is when using this strategy what would you do on this hole and holes like these that do have that gap you can run and get creative or if you do play the smart play it’s still not for certain but more likely. Do you play the more likely or are these ones you take a chance with? Also I am MA2 and do use this strategy of play but I feel maybe I’m to cautious? I know it may be a difficult question because it’s typed and harder to explain but if you understand what I’m asking. It would be cool if you could help.

[@stuartschwenke6656]

One question: if you play this hole at your ability and skill set, the results are 50% par (with the occasional birdie) and 50% boggie, where on the course can you offset this hole? The idea is that some holes are not reachable, but others are reachable. So, can I cover-up one hole with one or more holes?

[@PFMirror]

Robbie I joined the patreon and reached out on there but haven't heard back! Is there a better way to contact you?? Thanks for the amazing content either way

[@pathape]

If you don't get discouraged easily don't be aggressive until you get to the putting green. Learning to putt with commitment is the hardest part to get used to within tournaments. If you can putt in a tournament you will do very well at the lower amateur levels.

[@chrisfielding]

Hey brother, how can someone reach out to you for coaching? I joined the Birdie Fam on Patreon, but that seems to be radio silent. Thank you!

[@TekcorFPV]

I look at the Udisc number I get from a round VS par it tells me where I played in my game, I now have a low and high Udisc # range that I'm hoping to land in and keep pushing that upper number up and raise my lower number with it.

[@ryantennessen1528]

Great videos 🎉

[@rjreliv]

Thanks mister KZbin man

[@jaxsouthside6042]

I tell myself every time to play with this strategy. Lol then I get all excited and try a bomb😂

[@chessswinea5974]

Sitting here seriously taking it all in and thinking about how I can start applying it and the most important question bit at 10:03 caught me off guard. Snorted so loud I woke my dogs

[@AceGreene360]

Your style of speaking reminds me so much of Trae Crowder 😎

[@jasonedens3778]

This is really great advice but man, I'm just going to try to chuck it far lol.

[@calebdyer6332]

How would this apply when playing courses blind?

[@jeremylutes3148]

I found myself in a slump the end of last year into the beginning of this year. My rating dropped from 914 to 902. I was being super aggressive thinking well that’s what will take me to the next step. It hurt me more than it helped. Started breaking things down and more or less having this strategy. I’m now back up to 916 and I think I’m just going to ride or die with this strategy. Seems to work for me more then it hurts me.

[@MonkeysFightingRobots]

I’ll let you know how I do at my next tournament.

[@mikehc6159]

What's the long-term point of this other than becoming really good at being mid-level? Pros play for birdie every hole, their attack holes are for eagle, and on pro layouts, not local course longs. Should we not spend time working toward pro skill level rather than locking into becoming decent MA2 or great MA3? 🤷‍♂️

[@christianwolff2951]

MPO player here. Everything you’re saying can apply to professional divisions too. No, you’re not going to win at most courses with even par on every hole, but the strategy is the same. There’s a trend happening where everyone is getting better, so the average “aggression” goes up. I think this pushes us into more risky shots and a desperate mentality. The thing that I started doing different that won me tournaments was simply course maintenance. Knowing when and how to play for par is essential. The winningest players I know from amateurs to pros have this skill. Make a game plan and stick to it. Practice things that are uncomfortable. Imagine yourself in pressure situations and take note of your mistakes. And lastly, maybe most importantly, learn forehand rollers with all of your discs 🤣

[@daveinportland]

Pinch putting or driving?

[@paul.etedder2439]

The berg is like throwing a flat round rock . It’s kinda sucks unless you like a disc with Zero character . Go ahead and buy a Luna and be happy . Overstable putters are the best choice

[@billcoulter1984]

Every course I’ve played have several bogie holes for me where par is a bonus.

[@StwongDave]

This is colloquially known as "Dad Golf", which is why I can be the only person to birdie a 472ft par 3 with no elevation change in a division of 30+ players, but lose to people who's max distance is a 200ft full-flex driver shot.

[@BROWNSTONEBEAR-1983]

According to my lovely nephew, I'm trash at disc golf, and I need to get good😂

[@SwordOfAndariel]

I think an issue here is that you have the assumption that from 150ft, you can always land within 15ft, drop in par. I think that's probably common, but when were talking about 18 holes, that's 36 150ft shots to par the course. You're going to be off a few of those throws, and when its the upshot to the basket, bogey occurs. I know this is generalization, and if youre not confident at 150ft, confidence at 300ft should be much lower.

[@00bdog00]

I used to say that the Pig is a cheat code

[@anonymous-dk3um]

Damn that intro song is really grating

[@bobbybobman3073]

Summary, just play smart golf, don't try to be a hero, play within yourself, if a hole is actually easy for you make that an attack hole, otherwise just play conservative golf, try to throw a well placed shot off the tee whatever distance that needs to be for you and consider scoring par on that hole accomplishing your goal. If you happen to make a placement shot that isn't where you planned and it gives you a birdie look, that's totally fine try and make the birdie, but if you aren't close enough to feel confident in the birdie, there is no shame in laying up and knowing your walking away without taking any damage.

[@rickvervoort9536]

Not counting mulligans improves ones score immensely. Oh wait a minute that's what I've been doing wrong.

[@rainmaker8223]

Who is Laura?

[@Diamant254Music]

You have great content! But the new intro song is total garbage

[@calebdyer6332]

Agreed

[@paulking0512]

It is so loud and high pitched, it is incredibly uncomfortable to hear.

[@Asands62]

Glad it’s short 🎶

[@chrisproffitt6198]

Great advice Robbie C. Not all holes are birds. Just play to your skills and enjoy the grind.

[@jp3933]

Strange few weeks ago i struggeld a lot on the home course on few holes (3,4,5,12 and18) those i know I can birdie but started to think just to play them for Par and now those goes so much better(you mentaly teached me that). And on the course i few holes that is sk "Bonus Birdies" (7,8, 13, 15 and 16). as my sk. attackholes and that is how started to play and i hit my own record on the hole course +2. But any way ans now you talking here about Attack holes? I think that is the case when you get so familiar with an course you know which holes to attack. but on some tournaments you play usually a course that you not visited so much (or at all), there i think "playing for par" is the best strategy on the first round. Second round you know the course better and can start to choose the attack holes. (the map of my home course looks easier on the map than it is frisbeegolfradat.fi/files/2019/06/laajalahti_kokkola_ratakartta_2019.jpg) "Why are TREES"