Easy Upgrades for a Stock Big Block Chevy - Engine Power S8, E19

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POWERNATION

POWERNATION

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It’s not all about horsepower! We take a Chevy 454 big block and dial in hard-hauling, heavy-pulling torque.
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@skittlecar1
@skittlecar1 2 жыл бұрын
What's stronger? 6 bolt main caps? Or the stitches holding Pat's pocket?
@robertjones2728
@robertjones2728 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤘
@ajjskins
@ajjskins 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@mohamedyasinarakkal5130
@mohamedyasinarakkal5130 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 😂😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@timc8551
@timc8551 2 жыл бұрын
We need answers!!!!!!
@TakeAGuessWhatsNext
@TakeAGuessWhatsNext 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@moofasa6953
@moofasa6953 Жыл бұрын
Man, it's so awesome they used students to help out. Talk about being a great opportunity for them as well as helping them with a career
@bozodog428
@bozodog428 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see the young ones coming into the trade. They did a good job on the big block.
@minirider82h71
@minirider82h71 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! A low rpm big block video!! Please build and dyno an 8100 vortec! I know the market is limited but the more ppl build em the more parts will come out! Gen 7 BBC is the best one!
@juliennacer8871
@juliennacer8871 2 жыл бұрын
it definitely isnt. weak bottom ends and poor flowing heads coupled with poor parts selection.
@Wanous-hv7zo
@Wanous-hv7zo 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliennacer8871 you are rite
@justinavery9793
@justinavery9793 2 жыл бұрын
Dude that would be a super cool engine to build! I don't see them often so it would be a breath of fresh air for sure.
@marthamryglod291
@marthamryglod291 2 жыл бұрын
Pocket porting, valve job, cam, headers, tune adds 100hp and looks almost stock.
@dumbdumb572
@dumbdumb572 Жыл бұрын
@@juliennacer8871 pretty funny they managed to build quite literally the exact opposite of what they intended lol
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you guys were thinking here. 234/244 is a poor cam selection for a torque/towing application, as seen on the dyno, low end suffers with this approach. And the EFI is expensive, I don't know which FiTech kit you are using, but the Easy Street 600HP master kit is $1200. With the same or less money, for a towing application I would go with a hydraulic roller upgrade, it will have less duration but higher lift than a flat tappet, something like a 206/212 @0.50. At most 212/218@0.50. The lower duration will keep the torque curve down low. And just use a simple 600cfm carb with vacuum secondaries. Use a knockoff air-gap manifold and phenolic spacer to keep the carb from boiling over after those long uphills towing.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson Жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 if you're paying, sure let's swap the truck to a 12 valve and use the 454 for a drag car that we have yet to acquire.
@stormwolfgames6636
@stormwolfgames6636 2 ай бұрын
lol 600cfm carb? 454's want at least 750CFM, 600 is for a 350...
@stephendoing2253
@stephendoing2253 2 ай бұрын
Great suggestions! They need to give the cost of the upgrades they did. Why not roll in new bearings since the engine was torn down?
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 2 ай бұрын
@@stormwolfgames6636 we're talking low end torque here, not 6000 rpms. 600 cfm is more than enough for a heavy towing or motorhome application that only revs to 4500. With peanut port heads and a stock cam you will not get more power with a 750cfm carb.
@stormwolfgames6636
@stormwolfgames6636 2 ай бұрын
@@JimBronson I know I have peanut port heads, I have always used and been told to use no lower than 750cfm. I have used both 750 and 800. You will open up your top end a little more at a small sacrifice of bottom end, considering these motors are swapped into half tons all the time it's not such a bad idea. I have seen many forums guys try running under 750 with stock 454 they always run in to problems. My stock qjet that came with the truck is 750 at least and if you do your research all qjets for 454s were 750 or 800cfm. Even 650 is too low for a 454.
@nimblybimbly4002
@nimblybimbly4002 2 жыл бұрын
The ratio of content to ad spots is getting a bit out of whack.
@stephendoing2253
@stephendoing2253 2 ай бұрын
The show has to be paid for.
@mcseforsale
@mcseforsale 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a TV watcher, but when I was, I loved all of these series. I hope that my subscription and watches help you do more of these programs.
@davidmarshall8628
@davidmarshall8628 2 жыл бұрын
Torque on a budget? What should have happened: Good valve job and a bit of bowl blend porting. Peanut ports are plenty for the job at hand. Simple dual plane manifold with a large vacuum secondary carb. Cam like a Lunati Voodoo 10110701 with 213/219 @ .050". Pistons with enough dome for 9.5 to 1 compression. Then there would be torque.
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Maybe cut the heads down for a smidge more compression and tighter l.s.a
@BigUnk85
@BigUnk85 2 жыл бұрын
By the time u do all that and buy pistons u could just buy aftermarket aluminum heads and be done more power less weight
@joeljohnson3157
@joeljohnson3157 2 жыл бұрын
They said they were trying to build it for bottom end torque and then put a single plane intake?
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
And they put in a bigger cam, 234/244🤔. A single plane with that cam is odd. A smaller cam below 220/XXX with an after market dual plane intake would be a low end torque monster.
@Harrybowles1969
@Harrybowles1969 2 жыл бұрын
Yea a proper hash video but at least gives beginners a look inside an engine
@alertgasper
@alertgasper Ай бұрын
Generally, EFI wants that single plenum, whether wet or dry, but the "signal" is going to be different than a carb, since it's not running off vacuum or atmospheric pressure above the venturis but what the computer determines from the ignition timing. single plane also allows for a more direct path for air to travel. consider GM's TPI system from the 1980's. it was a single plenum intake with long runners, made a lot of low RPM torque from 305 cid. of course, this EFI is hoping to fit every setup while GM designed TPI for a specific requirement.
@worldssickestmedia2713
@worldssickestmedia2713 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked this show because it's always a budget build and always around 350-400hp. And even when they do blow the bank it's like 600hp. It makes me feel safe. 😆
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 2 жыл бұрын
my stock 454 has 450 hp and it was free with 6,000 miles on it with a 02xx 400r turbo good to 800 hp so far 4 just this year plus it has the 4 inch stroke instead of the 4 1/4 inch stroke
@stephendoing2253
@stephendoing2253 2 ай бұрын
No $ were given on their "budget" upgrades
@bladenrexroth2555
@bladenrexroth2555 2 жыл бұрын
The 8.1 has over 400 tq from 1400-3400 rpms. The cam they used put too much dip into the torque curve.
@Wanous-hv7zo
@Wanous-hv7zo 2 жыл бұрын
8.1 are junk
@bladenrexroth2555
@bladenrexroth2555 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wanous-hv7zo anyone who knows about the 8.1 knows the only things that need replaced are the stock Rods and Pistons. Better design over the Gen 6 454 and the only casting better comes from world products. You can't use a Gen 6 454 to get 572 or 632. But you can from an 8.1 496 tall deck.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
The cam was to big for low end torque.
@konnerkramer329
@konnerkramer329 2 жыл бұрын
@@bladenrexroth2555 you would you want to use a gen 6 anyways. the gen 2 is the way to go for pretty much anything. stock rebuilds all the way up to 600 cubic inch 1,800hp turbo builds. they're was more common, way cheaper and have a WAY bigger aftermarket compared to the 8.1. i don't even know if id considered a set heads and a few different cams an aftermarket.
@stevenfan1218
@stevenfan1218 Жыл бұрын
Pat is an excellant mechanic.he can teach you a lot.
@DBSSTEELER
@DBSSTEELER 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to watch Richard Holdner’s videos. For the price of those roller rockers you could have picked up a set of Gen VI rectangle port heads that would have made 60 more HP and more torque due to higher compression and better flow. The stock rockets would work fine up to around 6500 rpm. Pat should know that.
@BigUnk85
@BigUnk85 2 жыл бұрын
Its the chambers that increase compression not the ports. A street motor dont need rec heads ovals will work just fine long as there not peanut ports.
@countryrebel01
@countryrebel01 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigUnk85 I agree. You can actually lose HP by running too big a head on a motor like this.
@BigUnk85
@BigUnk85 2 жыл бұрын
@@countryrebel01 exactly
@Harrybowles1969
@Harrybowles1969 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DBSSTEELER
@DBSSTEELER 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigUnk85 I didn’t say the ports increase compression. I said the Gen 6 Rec port heads flowed better and would increase compression. Better airflow and more compression equals more power. The best recipe for any motor is the right combination with the best airflow possible. For a street motor the recipe is sufficient cubic inches, good amount of compression, mild cam and the most air flow possible. The mild cam let’s you make power down low and the airflow allows a broad power band and that gives you good driveability.
@tchapps88
@tchapps88 2 жыл бұрын
Should have said screw the budget and went with small chamber afr 265 heads and went with a smaller cam like a summit 228/238 or even a 218/228. Would have made better torque everywhere than stock peanut ports
@johnweaver8470
@johnweaver8470 Жыл бұрын
I've been running the same distributor in my 396 68 Camaro for 3 years still working great
@lewisdeclouette6342
@lewisdeclouette6342 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show on rebuilding Motors like this and high- performance
@domenicozagari2443
@domenicozagari2443 11 ай бұрын
Can you remove one of the spark plugs and install a Computer Interface Pressure Gauges to see the increase of the pressure at low speeds and high speeds also check the vacuum on various speeds.
@TKpeformance
@TKpeformance 2 жыл бұрын
Left some power on table with 112 lobe Sep with those peanut port heads
@TheLupopovich
@TheLupopovich 10 ай бұрын
Tell me I'm wrong but you said camshaft and took out the crank hahaha love the video!
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it lost a ton of power below 3500 rpm, where most trucks run everyday
@robtdougherty
@robtdougherty 2 жыл бұрын
First thing i thought about when they listed cam specs......they are still in HP mode. They need to knock about 10 degrees out of that cam....
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 2 жыл бұрын
@@robtdougherty more like 20 degrees for a towing application. You need torque off idle.
@regal105
@regal105 2 жыл бұрын
I searched the specs on summit and the only 2 cams that come up are extreme marine grinds 11-240-4 and 11-240-20
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that the big block isn’t running wide open throttle all day every day! The torque curve you base your comment on is at WOT.
@alertgasper
@alertgasper Ай бұрын
the easiest way to stab a cam in during a rebuild--before you put the crank and connecting rods in your way, stand your block up on its bellhousing side. Now let gravity help you drop the camshaft in vertically. you can even do this dry, and reach into the empty crankcase to slather on the lube. this way instead of dripping on the floor as you see here, it drips inside the crankcase where you want it. Bonus points, you can install the flat tappet lifters after rocking their base on flat surface to check they have the right taper after all. Now give the camshaft a spin. if the lifters aren't spinning in their lifter bores, you're on your way to wiping out the camshaft (and then complaining about it online). Measure their outside diameter to the ID of the lifter bore--use a brake cylinder hone to get the clearance you need. It's a lot easier to clean up any machine work when you don't have to dissasemble the entire reciprocating assembly.
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 2 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER! High Rpm torque motor! !!! What's the point?
@blairbreland1443
@blairbreland1443 2 жыл бұрын
If there was anymore advertising there wouldn't be any show.
@joekizonu9503
@joekizonu9503 2 жыл бұрын
Really?? I watched McFarland newest and it had over 5 min just promoting t shirts. These guys gotta pay the bills too. At least they promoted speed parts. Shit dude in blue had a add for male pattern baldness. 😂
@subwoofer8865
@subwoofer8865 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure you can call this a "Stock" engine upgrade when you can see it has .040" aftermarket pistons already in it.
@kennedy98796
@kennedy98796 9 ай бұрын
i was wondering about those pistons myself lol
@SGTJDerek
@SGTJDerek 8 ай бұрын
You can tell from the gaskets that someone has been inside it. It's still typical of what you can still find in the junkyards and still running trucks. It's a leftover from another project. .40 over isn't much more than a typical rebuild.
@tommyjm83
@tommyjm83 7 ай бұрын
I seen that 2 lol
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty Ай бұрын
Did you see the power it made? Stock!!! Damned thing can't hardly get out of it's own way!!
@craigbowers4047
@craigbowers4047 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the episode and sharing the build with the guests. The Total Seal rings are good stuff. I think a pair of used budget friendly L29 Vortec heads, would get the build to one HP per CI and match the intake ports better. I'd add a rear water crossover if there isn't one cast in the manifold, maybe try a small spacer for runner length. The 3M copper based anti seize works great for plugs especially for people who use to much since it insulates them less than the nickel based anti seize. Thanks again.
@workisfun...2438
@workisfun...2438 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing about the heads. I was always told by an old engine builder, those peanut port heads caused major disruption on the intake side and were only worth running if it's all ya had. A brand new set of boat anchors!
@gagemcclure2241
@gagemcclure2241 2 жыл бұрын
The pens in the pocket almost resemble ranks and experience level. More pens/clipped items=accolades and experience
@steves759
@steves759 2 жыл бұрын
They should get a F. The motor was to perform best below 3500 not a average up to 5000! A stroker kit could easily have been done for the cost of that FI and obviously a better cam than the one they chose. But Hey they did say both the kids were going into sales or marketing. So go figure they are not going to listen to the customers goal and will sell you what makes them the best $ and when you call them back its your fault you didn't install the cam correctly or the motor isn't tuned right etc etc with excuses. 🤣😥😭 Oh and nice touch with the SFI balancer on a low rpm motor. Guess that was a hint it wasn't going to be a low rpm motor.
@thorcain1555
@thorcain1555 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, FItech too :/
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 2 жыл бұрын
i get the 450 hp 454 4 inch stroke for free so far this year i got 4 of them plus they come with the 02xx 400r turbo good to 800 hp from 6,000 to 58,000 miles on them then all they need is to breath a bigger carb and intake does wonders for them close to 600 hp i priced it at GM at it would cost me close to 15,000 for the set up because they come complete and ready to go the long block is 8,000 for it
@beilno2890
@beilno2890 2 жыл бұрын
Add in they put in an all new ignition system, but didn't do any timing control while going with fuel injection and a terrible fitech as well. Really this was just a long winded ad for people who have no idea what they should be buying.
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 2 жыл бұрын
@@beilno2890 i agree 100%
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
A cam smaller than a 220/XXX with an aftermarket dual plane intake would have been a better setup for low end torque.
@m.s.patrick2863
@m.s.patrick2863 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid but if I did all that in my garage and only found 12-15 ftlbs of torque i would be disappointed, just a camshaft in my 455 Buick brought it up over 500 torque. Glad to see the young men taking up the trade and bringing business and marketing to the table!
@edwingreene7583
@edwingreene7583 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 1970 Buick 455
@gregjohnson2073
@gregjohnson2073 2 жыл бұрын
Pontiac too.
@aaron62877
@aaron62877 9 ай бұрын
I understand what you mean about not gaining a lot of torque being disappointing, but if you look at the torque lines it is a huge improvement. The stock torque line just falls off after hitting peak. The new cam has a torque line that runs evenly across the graph. That is the big gain there. A very long torque range.
@SGTJDerek
@SGTJDerek 8 ай бұрын
That Generation is notoriously low on CR. That's one of the biggest reasons the 454SS was such a dog. Those heads don't help either. Except for the Fitech, this is a really inexpensive build that won't hurt reliability.
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 10 ай бұрын
A little Clay Smith HR cam would put torque well over 500+ lbxft! 221/235@0.050’
@josephbliskowski2759
@josephbliskowski2759 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the objective to raise lower end power and torque????
@TV-xk7qq
@TV-xk7qq 2 жыл бұрын
You are right. If they were trying to what they said then they made it worse than it was before they started.
@jekinneys
@jekinneys 2 жыл бұрын
That is a lot of money for the results. Meaning the EFI system, Distributor kit, and rockers probably didn't add much value (results) compared to the cam and springs alone for a "budget" torque monster.
@joetalley192
@joetalley192 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Then they pushed the torque out another 1500+ RPM. That's not much of a low rpm torquer any more.
@stevenhoitz9260
@stevenhoitz9260 2 жыл бұрын
@@joetalley192 Below 5000 isn't low RPM?
@joetalley192
@joetalley192 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhoitz9260 hahaha not quite
@stevenhoitz9260
@stevenhoitz9260 2 жыл бұрын
@@joetalley192 That is an interesting theory. What do you consider low RPM?
@joetalley192
@joetalley192 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhoitz9260 Low RPM is the bottom third of the throttle. Lots of American V8s redline in the low and mid 6s. A third of let's say 6500 is almost 2200rpm. However, I think lots of people would agree that it's 3000rpm and lower. Anything beyond that is mid or high throttle. Since this was a pickup motor, that's where it's likely to spend 80+% of it's life. Why move the power band out of where it's likely to live?
@jessedesantiago2324
@jessedesantiago2324 2 жыл бұрын
Baaamm! Major key! Attitude and effort! Awesome 👏👍👍🙏🏽
@lbh002
@lbh002 2 жыл бұрын
The called Pat sir! Respect!
@shaneolsen9394
@shaneolsen9394 2 жыл бұрын
Not to be a troll, but wasn't the point low end torque? Literally all the power it made on the new set up was about 3500 rpm and up l, which is all the upper part of the power curve. So for a truck motor which this was, ill take the old setup
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this has been my complaint about these engine builds for a long time, a street torque motor at 5000 rpm is an oxymoron!
@shaneolsen9394
@shaneolsen9394 2 жыл бұрын
@@towgod7985 I mean when I heard the only new part was a bigger cam I guessed they were gonna lose the low end grunt, I would of liked to see a stroker kit, I know not as cheap but they already had the motor completely torn down. I think bang for buck your not gonna beat the added torque of a longer piston stroke
@BigBlockCaprice
@BigBlockCaprice 2 жыл бұрын
this entire video was a waste of time, mostly just an advertisement
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 11 ай бұрын
🧌
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you were doing a low rpm torque build, why did you go with a healthy 234/244 duration🤔, that is more of a mid range cam.
@marksr49341
@marksr49341 9 ай бұрын
Did you break in that cam? what about zinc for those flat tappets?
@smbaker84
@smbaker84 2 жыл бұрын
anyone else wonder what they pulled that motor from? did i miss it? looks like a little manufactured patina to me..
@pablotharpalo5685
@pablotharpalo5685 2 жыл бұрын
I think they said an 80s Chevy but I though the HD 454s had black valve covers
@magicmiles6985
@magicmiles6985 2 жыл бұрын
That's the fakes patina I've ever seen lol
@Harrybowles1969
@Harrybowles1969 2 жыл бұрын
It's got flattops in it deffo not stock motor
@justinballard7242
@justinballard7242 2 жыл бұрын
@@Harrybowles1969 those are the stock 80's big block pistons
@justinballard7242
@justinballard7242 2 жыл бұрын
@@magicmiles6985 fake as can be man. That was a low run time remanufactured engine all day
@Mr.Frost181
@Mr.Frost181 Жыл бұрын
Came out good guys 💪🏾💪🏾
@DOCTRJ
@DOCTRJ 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job lads
@rockyjustus9439
@rockyjustus9439 Жыл бұрын
Can you provide the information on the products that you used such as the sealants and the extreme pressure lubricants part numbers
@NVzla
@NVzla 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap pistons could have been installed and raised up compression a bit for more power. I mean cheap.
@scottdoubleyou563
@scottdoubleyou563 2 жыл бұрын
Decking the heads and/or the block would be a fairly cheap way also.
@petersimpson1734
@petersimpson1734 Жыл бұрын
Single plane manifold seems like an odd choice when looking for mid-range torque. I"d bet my lunch money a performer manifold with a throttle body EFI would have made noticeably more low to mid range torque............... which is really what they were looking for. I'm sure they knew that, but you gotta pimp the products your given LOL
@mitreswell
@mitreswell Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't new rings need the bores get honed, or at least deglazed?
@ralphhaldermanjr106
@ralphhaldermanjr106 2 жыл бұрын
Great job
@eehsua
@eehsua 2 жыл бұрын
If you want low end power, torque, why make it a high reving engine to peak it?
@brysonshires9742
@brysonshires9742 2 жыл бұрын
They already blow the tires off just off idle, but falls off in the top end. Soooo
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
@@brysonshires9742. They said they wanted more low end torque, not mid and top end.
@brysonshires9742
@brysonshires9742 2 жыл бұрын
@@bri-manhunter2654 as if they're not already getting both🙄
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 2 жыл бұрын
@@brysonshires9742. I agree, but like I already stated, they said they wanted more low end and not mid range.
@brysonshires9742
@brysonshires9742 2 жыл бұрын
@@bri-manhunter2654 nah your argument is pointless. If they're getting a gain across the entire power band its a win win. Period
@kylecampbell9255
@kylecampbell9255 Жыл бұрын
Long live unoh 2007 graduate my hero’s there where Morgan Higgins and McPherson I pray they are still there!!!!
@jonathanstickley2030
@jonathanstickley2030 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched since th beginning and even before this was engine power. But nothing on the 335 series ford engines. Would really like to see a 400 ford stroker or even a 351 cleavland stroker.
@bladenrexroth2555
@bladenrexroth2555 3 ай бұрын
Can you guys put together a talldeck 454? 4 inch crank in a 427 talldeck block and show us the torque increase with the longer stroke over the standard deck. Having 600tq at 1600-1800 rpms would be nice for towing and efficiency.
@ScottCiulei
@ScottCiulei 2 жыл бұрын
Is crankcase evac so close to the O2 sensor going to potentially mess with sensor accuracy? Not very far downstream...
@ericlarkin6563
@ericlarkin6563 2 жыл бұрын
Good show, too bad that new intake manifold did not match the heads better, giving up power there for sure.
@brandonthorbahn2405
@brandonthorbahn2405 8 ай бұрын
I’m currently redoing two gen 5/ mark v bbc 454’s and I’m wondering is it better to buy a cam kit(cam lifters and timing set) or buy parts separately? It can be difficult matching parts up because of the number of options.
@Slicpartna
@Slicpartna 2 жыл бұрын
great video and great content!!! what is the blue oil (what brand) that is put on the camshaft during installation?
@kkoch666
@kkoch666 10 ай бұрын
Gogloden bearing lube, best stuff out there for cams.
@Slicpartna
@Slicpartna 10 ай бұрын
@@kkoch666 thanks for the reply
@taylorurban2566
@taylorurban2566 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys rebuild a performance cummins? Or powerstroke? Or duramax? Something diesel related instead of gas?
@speedcrusader3779
@speedcrusader3779 Жыл бұрын
very nice engine wondering what the compression ratio is
@Dlong54
@Dlong54 8 ай бұрын
I'm going with the 6bolt main caps!
@workingmansrestorations7071
@workingmansrestorations7071 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 454 in my 84 k5 i want to build up. Has an 8" lift. I also have an 88 chevy dually i will pull the 454 to put a 6ltr ls in for fuel mileage.
@THROTTLEPOWER
@THROTTLEPOWER 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid!!!!!!!!!!
@mikeburnett7028
@mikeburnett7028 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you were using FiTech on your big block. How do I get mine to decel as fast as a carburetor. Mine takes too long to idle down between shifts
@joshuastanden
@joshuastanden 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching Frankie's growing pocket protector collection?
@justinavery9793
@justinavery9793 2 жыл бұрын
I totally noticed lol. I actually had to pause the video to examine his new shirt pocket collection.
@lesmansom7817
@lesmansom7817 2 жыл бұрын
Mate, do you have enough pens in that pocket?
@larryalexander4833
@larryalexander4833 2 жыл бұрын
They keep talking about budget minded build then put a efi system on the engine . Much much more money .
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 2 жыл бұрын
i got a 450 hp crate 454 with 4 inch stroke steel crank heavy rods high flow heads stock manifold 10.5 to 1 compression with a 02xx 400 r turbo good to 800 hp with 6,000 miles on it for free but not just one but 4 this years from 6,000 miles to 58.000 miles on them they just need to breath . i got a weidland high rise and a tunnel ram for a 100 bucks for both which are oval port set ups for the high flow heads like to port the valve and set up the heads for a bigger cam i have it in my pu all stock and it runs way better then my 396 from a 68 chevelle the tunnel ram is for my 79 z28 rs t top that i am going to build next after the 68 pu and 70 high boy i am working on now
@lylefoster6046
@lylefoster6046 2 жыл бұрын
What year is that BBC? I have one. It's not a 4 bolt main. Mine is an "84" out of a bus.
@joekizonu9503
@joekizonu9503 2 жыл бұрын
Don't the E3 plugs need to be indexed?
@joe-hp4nk
@joe-hp4nk 2 жыл бұрын
How many cc's is the small dish in the center of the piston?
@treemasters1
@treemasters1 Жыл бұрын
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST RV CAM WITH OUT CHANGING VALVE SPRINGS???
@kipphawley4514
@kipphawley4514 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in a big Ford engine fan. Would like to see them able to take a old school straight 6 300ci. As where bore it out to 302 with signal or Double old school Carbs with 2- 4/ bbl, Carbs or 2 - 2bbl carbs. Or if possible put in 1 cobra Jet set up on it. With 3/4 cams which where your able to use Unlead fuel with out adding lead Addative in the fuel. That would be cool to see something like that as well. I'm old school person from the baby boom era's. During the late 60s and the 70s also that early 80s we didn't have any sort of those types gadget for our engines. As EFI.
@Wanous-hv7zo
@Wanous-hv7zo 2 жыл бұрын
Whats a 3/4 cam?
@stevenhoitz9260
@stevenhoitz9260 2 жыл бұрын
They did a decent job on this one a while back kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIS3qXacqs18d80
@blown572hemi
@blown572hemi Жыл бұрын
Skipped ondy vitals with more in fuel injection, fastener's, and plugs then anything else. Couldn't even do a simple port match. Stock engine with money invested indy wrong thing's. Good job
@edwingreene7583
@edwingreene7583 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite for low end torque is my 1970 Buick 455
@albundy8052
@albundy8052 2 жыл бұрын
500 lbs/ft
@KiNGC4LifASS
@KiNGC4LifASS 2 жыл бұрын
I got 1971 Buick centurion 455 👑
@justinblain928
@justinblain928 2 ай бұрын
Going fuel injection because it’s easier than fixing and tuning a quadrajet. Which most 454’s had. I wish they would actually do a real life style build because that budget is not a realistic budget. Using 1.8 rockers on the intake would have made it more realistic too.
@dynodon100
@dynodon100 6 ай бұрын
Looks like you put a marine cam in this engine a 11-240-4 known as a XM278H power 2000-6200.
@Chatarrac10
@Chatarrac10 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Need a engine with lots of power for my c10 😂. 👍 👌
@Harrybowles1969
@Harrybowles1969 2 жыл бұрын
Just doing a 454 for my 69c10 can't wait for spring time
@jbeam794
@jbeam794 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a big block head comparison. I'm in the process of choosing heads . Afr , Brodix, trick floe , Flotec, My machinist says there is nothing wrong with floteks if they are set up right. They are a good price. AFR $2300 a piece. Dont want to spend that.
@hawkdsl
@hawkdsl Жыл бұрын
The best three are: 1.) AFR , 2) AFR, and 3) AFR. Pick one of those, and your golden.
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 10 ай бұрын
Richard Holdener has many bbc head comparisons...
@larrymagee8758
@larrymagee8758 8 ай бұрын
That 305 hp with headers. Try it with some stock exhaust manifolds, then the headers, then the rest.
@freyjaravenclaw3577
@freyjaravenclaw3577 2 жыл бұрын
You should install the cam first. You can guide both ends instead of one on big blocks that way.
@jessemurray1757
@jessemurray1757 2 жыл бұрын
after gapping the rings for our application.......we wont tell YOU what that is but just trust us. This is just one of the reasons corporate sponsored shows suck compared to independent ones.
@jamesrobinson9176
@jamesrobinson9176 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap heads likely would be better than a cam and rockers. It's all about flowing more air.
@johnathanashleyOCSO
@johnathanashleyOCSO 2 жыл бұрын
Professor Pat Topolinski .....class is in session
@justinavery9793
@justinavery9793 2 жыл бұрын
I would never reuse bearings no matter how good of shape they are in! Also jack looks like the cop that drinks piss from a beer bottle in the movie "dumb and dumber". lol!!!
@billywilliams6853
@billywilliams6853 2 жыл бұрын
I like to see a single turbo, with 8 lbs of boost, for towing 30 foot gooseneck trailer. Replace the peanut heads with oval port 049. Reduce the cam duration. I would only care about Torque 1500 - 4000 rpm, don't care about hp. Why is this NOT making over 500 foot/lbs?????
@nathan00campbell
@nathan00campbell Жыл бұрын
1/2 turn past 0 lash? wouldn't that be to tight? Sorry i only have experience setting the valves on my semi truck, atv's and dirtbike.
@perryneum
@perryneum Жыл бұрын
Factory spec is usually a full turn past zero lash, so they've actually loosened things up a bit. It works better when pushing higher rpm.
@baronvonfrankenstein6295
@baronvonfrankenstein6295 2 жыл бұрын
I would have ponied up for a hydraulic roller but that's still a good truck motor right thar.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 2 жыл бұрын
not a good truck motor, lost torque under 3500 compared to where it was before they opened it up.
@ericevans9269
@ericevans9269 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if they had a exact link to the parts used. Not just to the manufactures links....
@richardcoleman9645
@richardcoleman9645 2 жыл бұрын
Why was the heads not ported/polished also? Free power. ?????
@The.Unwinding
@The.Unwinding 2 жыл бұрын
Now I want to know how much my 454 makes its bored .30 over aluminum heads from edlebrock mother thumper cam from comp 850cfp carb air gap intake long tube headers it’s still HEI wish it was EFI but I know how to deal with the carb set up
@user-un1sh8xh5v
@user-un1sh8xh5v 2 жыл бұрын
Just here for my dose of big block chevy
@cotynietling2567
@cotynietling2567 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with several other comments this to me is a failure its still has peak hp and torque at high rpms i wanna see how to build a high torque high hp tow pig engine peak power around 3,200 to 3,500
@thomasseigler8875
@thomasseigler8875 Жыл бұрын
Like to see more cam/carb combinations for towing motors. Gotta have a good performer for towing the toys around. Anybody use a 218/228 114 on a 454? Summit #sum-k1301 How well did it do?
@holeshot1721
@holeshot1721 8 ай бұрын
I towed my 18foot tag along trailer 3,000lbs with my l35 kubota tractor 10,000 lbs all original for a long time 3 years of abuse truck took it like a champ
@bw6538
@bw6538 2 жыл бұрын
Pulled my 454 out of my 1 ton installed a small block 396 with more torque and hp than my 454 for pulling my trailer up the hills in my southern state
@fatt-ass-pro
@fatt-ass-pro Жыл бұрын
just to be clear... that's a GEN-V 7.4 with the 236 P-port heads... BBC...?
@Selkirk69
@Selkirk69 2 жыл бұрын
All this and not one minute of gasket matching, mild porting, etc sad
@ZombieBiden
@ZombieBiden 5 ай бұрын
I’ve never pulled a crank to do a cam before
@vela505
@vela505 2 жыл бұрын
Dam you can get powerblock to sell/advertise anything on there show.
@wyattharrison5619
@wyattharrison5619 11 ай бұрын
was on board with the budget build till they brought out the 2k$ efi setup
@jerrycoon3369
@jerrycoon3369 2 жыл бұрын
OK so I understand that the efi company probably sent you a lot of sponsorship money but if you wanted to improve power and torque on a budget, why did you spend thousands on efi when you could have used that money to replace the "peanut port" heads and put a carb on it? Way more performance. Same amount of money.
@worldssickestmedia2713
@worldssickestmedia2713 2 жыл бұрын
Because unless your building a race car carburetors are dumb. And this thing isn't going into any race car. Not with 390hp.
@jerrycoon3369
@jerrycoon3369 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldssickestmedia2713 I disagree. If you know how to tune a carb they are awesome. Most people don't.
@worldssickestmedia2713
@worldssickestmedia2713 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerrycoon3369 I build custom quad rail carbs for drag bikes, customize holley style 4 barrels for drag cars. And build a lot of 2 strokes for jet skis and restoring all the amazing motocross bikes of my youth. And I think some of us older guys romanticize "back in the day" and we forget how big of a pain in the ass they are. I make a pretty good amount of money because there's not a lot of people today that even know how to tune a carb correctly much mess build one. People forget buying a brand new car in the 70s and early 80s and still having to let it warm up for 15 minutes on a cold day while freezing their azz off before they can go anywhere. Or having to take the carburetor apart to tune it. And most guys forget about that because all the cars in their driveway are fuel injected and have been for over 20 years. As we get older we tend to forget about everything that sucked and we only remember all the good stuff that was fun. We remember what it was like to drive a new L88 corvette. (Just an example) but we forget how much of a pain in the ass it was to adjust the valves every 2-3 weeks. We forget about points ignition getting out of whack and causing the carb to burp fire and blow out the power valve. Or vacuum secondaries sticking and almost killing us despite pulling the gas pedal back. We even forget the little things like being late for work some days because that pos flooded out trying to crank it when the temperature was in the 20s and now you gotta change the oil because there's gas in it. We take for granted now that it can be freezing outside and we can jump in our cars, crank it and throw it into drive and go in less than a minute. And have been able to crank it and drive since 1986. We remember all the fun and none of the inconveniences. And the new technology is the reason that today we have small blocks that make over 1000hp on pump gas and get 20+mpg when back in the day 650hp was the ceiling plus you had to find a gas station that sold Sonoco 110 and get 8mpg. I'd probably forget the same way if I didn't specialize in building them. Today I can tune my cars engine and I don't even have to open the hood. And a lot of the show cars I've built back in the day are paying me today to throw an EFI system on them so they can enjoy them and drive them more.
@jerrycoon3369
@jerrycoon3369 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldssickestmedia2713 I don't disagree with anything you just said. I think you missed the point of my original comment. The point of the video was to make more torque and HP for the least amount of money. The first thing to jump out at anyone should be the "peanut port" heads. Some low end aluminum oval ports and the proper camshaft with a carb would make WAY more power and torque than what they ended up with. For about the same price as the efi setup.
@ryanhicks942
@ryanhicks942 Жыл бұрын
Young kids working on dinosaurs.
@ThePigslayer
@ThePigslayer 16 сағат бұрын
Let’s make a low Buck high torque low rpm engine. Raised the peaks 2k rpm and throws on fuel injection. Torque went up 12 lb/ft
@stephenkrambeck6589
@stephenkrambeck6589 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a lotta money to spend for only 22 foot pounds of torque, and there’s less torque at the bottom which is worst for a street/tow application.
@grabir01
@grabir01 2 жыл бұрын
Should have done a 3 angle grind and flowed the heads. Then you would have made a lot more power.
@centraltexasfoxbodies
@centraltexasfoxbodies 2 жыл бұрын
How will flowing the heads make more power?
@grabir01
@grabir01 2 жыл бұрын
​@@centraltexasfoxbodies Flowing the heads can make more power by the information it provides. Thanks.
@centraltexasfoxbodies
@centraltexasfoxbodies 2 жыл бұрын
@@grabir01 flowing the heads won't gain any power, it just tells you what the heads will flow.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 2 жыл бұрын
@@centraltexasfoxbodies it would have informed a more appropriate cam selection at least.
@centraltexasfoxbodies
@centraltexasfoxbodies 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimBronson the bigger the better!! No you're correct a huge cam would hurt power with low flowing heads, an rv cam would've been a good choice
@jaredmayer3960
@jaredmayer3960 2 жыл бұрын
For 50 bucks why wouldn’t you replace the bearings
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