EBAY CARBON WHEELS revisited - 2800km review, did the risk pay off???!

[@stevenagel6096]

That intro is absolutely Boss level.

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks Steve, glad you liked it, even if my American accent is gaaaaaaarbage

[@stevenagel6096]

@@TraceVelo You had me at the deep voice.

[@ohhi5237]

we all have opinions

[@savegan4005]

hell yeah

[@warpdrive101]

So is your whole bike and what is cost of whole bike

[@lolyeet3443]

Dude the effort u put into all the videos is amz. It's always entertaining. Keep at it.

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks buddy, really appreciate it! Spent quite a while on this video so glad you like it

[@thatf_inguy8220]

The cycling community is so plagued by elitism. It’s awesome to see someone who actually rides thousands of miles embracing affordable options. Let’s be honest, most of the super bikes out there spend the bulk of their time sitting unused in a garage by owners who prefer posting on bike forums.

[@shushuyu]

I agree. As someone who commute to work on a bike I tend to see people like me and the cyclists I come across as different breeds. They're super snobby. It became clear when one of the doods who maintain my bike told me that those bunch rarely do anything and just hang out. It really made me think though..you spent 5k on the frame..thats 2 times more than my diverge as a whole bike altogether.

[@prewirespecialists1239]

I work in a LBS and I cringe at what someone will spend ! I always try to steer people away from the most expensive bike and gear especially if they are buying just to ride on the weekends for a few hours. The only time I keep my mouth shut is when someone pulls up in their BMW or the like and has the shut up and serve me attitude then its game on get out that credit card MR or MRS Armstrong!!!

[@thecrowfliescrooked]

I have found a home in this comment.

[@isaachernandez2884]

its not about elitism... its about being safe and buying a branded bike. SUPPORT THE BIKE INDUSTRY!! keep it alive...

[@thecrowfliescrooked]

Isaac Hernandez so to be safe you need to buy a bike with a %400 markup? Fuck that man. The industry is way overpriced and it has nothing to do with safety. All it’s doing is making people rich on one side and other people looking like elitist dick heads on the other side. I say fuck the cycling industry. Buy used as much as you can.

[@leighricketts4898]

Love this .... real world cyclist. Really fallen out of love with the whole money mill of cycling over the last few years and your a breath of fresh air

[@larrybarnette884]

Yes!

[@laurabellis9389]

*Looked at a lot of options for getting my **Latest.Bike** . Great find in SAVA. Super light, nice components, really good value as it comes with many options only found in much higher priced bikes.*

[@artistglyn]

Great video. I bought a set of Chinese wheels last year off Ebay, £290 the pair , weight 1350 gms the pair, excluding skewers. I've now completed around 2500 km on them, at least half on rubbish UK roads. They are just like yours. No spoke issues, still true, very little brake wear. In fact, they are , more or less, just like they came out of the box. I've also got a set of carbon aero bars and carbon saddle that have done the same distance. All still perfect. Case closed.

[@1400hb]

Glyn Whiting mind sending me a link mate?

[@HeathyRoidz]

Zen 358 try CSC wheels, on aliexpress, amazing quality

[@rosco0101]

I'm glad your wheels have held up, but 2500km isn't exactly a lot of distance. I'd expect my new rims to be nearly perfect after maybe 6 weeks of riding. My front wheel is a Campagnolo Zonda C17 with around 13,000 miles ( @21,000 km) on it and has never been trued, and is still near perfect. My rear Zonda failed at the hub flange after only 7,000 miles (@11,000 km) which I consider unacceptable for a $400 wheelset (the roads where I live are pretty rubbish as well). I replaced the rear wheel at the beginning of the 2020 season with a Mavic Aksium, which cost around $135 and so far has held up well over the last 2300+ miles.

[@artistglyn]

Since this post I've done another thousand or so. The rear went slightly off and I've had it trued, but other than that they've been perfect. I took Aksiums off to put these on. I use them as a winter wheel or on my turbo.

[@paulschmidtke425]

@@rosco0101 I don't really rate campy stuff at all myself , what I've owned myself has failed , but at least it was expensive

[@tinman7551]

Absolutely love the mini stories in the series of videos. Awesome stuff like this is what makes KZbin worth while :) keep up the awesome work trace ! Do disk wheels next !

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks CF, appreciate it. Yeah I really enjoy filing the intro's and throwing a bit of my humor into the videos, so glad you like it! But yeah would love to build up a disc road bike!

[@advancedt3]

Bought the same set of wheels you did, 3k in, still perfect

[@magnush7398]

Can you call me the Name or send me a link, sir? I can‘t find them on ebay

[@advancedt3]

@@magnush7398 www.ebaystores.co.uk/wokecycle/Wheels-60mm-Depth-25-Width-/_i.html?_fsub=28830891012&_sid=1406217212&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

[@advancedt3]

Bought them at this vendor, but it seems they don't sell the exact same one no more (spoke config)

[@magnush7398]

Kees Leek ah shit, but thank you!

[@th24gg19]

Oo

[@BenHN01]

I fully concur with you. Bought my 50mm pair through Far Sports 9000kms ago for £400. Still perfectly true and fast and showing no signs of wear. Even taken them to the Alps a couple of times. Have not had to replace any part. Why pay more for a brand name and love that stealth look. Great vid.

[@TraceVelo]

Nice one! Yeah i actually have a pair of farsports wheels im trialing out at the moment. I've only done a few miles on them so far, but they have honestly been fantastic, so im not surprised your set have lasted so long. Anyway thanks for the comment!!!

[@stevenleffanue]

G'day from 'Oz cycle' Australia 😎. Love your intro....try changing your voice for the other person,you obviously have a good sense of humor.

[@TraceVelo]

Wow, OZ cycle!!!! I've always loved your videos! Thanks so much for the comment :)

[@mauriciorosales1259]

Regarding the break pad toe in setup, I use a business card on one side of the pad to adjust the toe-in angle.

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah, this is a great tip, and actually what i use when setting mine up. Thanks for the comment!

[@tonyroose8347]

Aren't disc brakes an option? Looking forward to a review on that topic!

[@glennmarshall8146]

Thanks for this entertaining, informative, no B/S KZbin. I watched both and think they are tops. Keep up the great work! BTW, I am 72yo and only back to riding for 18 months after cycling in my teens. I have a hybrid Giant Toughroad 1 2019 model and enjoy it over the boat anchor I previous rode. II average about 200km a week and don’t know a lot about modern, heads down, bum up road bikes but yours looks really terrific and from your GoPro and drone clips looks really fast. Thank you for your reviews.

[@TraceVelo]

@Glenn Marshall, thanks so much, really appreciate it! I had a look at that Giant, it's a nice looking bike, a friend of mine has a very similar model and he loves it. 200km's a week is some good mileage as well. I need to get back on the bike this week if im going to match that! Anyway, thanks for the comment!

[@bobcooper9816]

Your videos are getting even better dude! Nice work. The intro had me chuckling something good!

[@avva4090]

That intro skit just earned you a subscriber haha. Excellent work!

[@joaoamado7851]

Dude, your videos are absolutely impecable. I hope more people keen of cycling will get aware of your channel. It is a delight to watch your videos man. Keep up with your exquisite job ;)

[@TraceVelo]

Joao, thanks so much, what a wicked comment!!! I love the positivity, really motivates me to keep making these vids!!

[@adamfast3797]

Your production efforts are A+. Keep up the awesome content!

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks Adam!

[@Jordan-W]

I was about to comment on your American accent... then i tried to do yours and realized you did much better than I. LOL Great videos man! I am going back through and binge watching.

[@krzysztofradecki3376]

we all need more quality content like this! Loving the intro!

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks dude, appreciate it!

[@krzysztofradecki3376]

@@TraceVelo also sent u an e-mail while back- still awaiting reply :D

[@kelvindavison3314]

Great video again, fun and informative. Glad you like the wheels and they've worked out for you - you covered everything that could be considered important I think, very comprehensive. Shame your videos are not more frequent!

[@TraceVelo]

@Kelvin Davison, thanks so, really appreciate it. But yeah i would love to get them out more often. Still trying to fit it round my day job atm, but working on getting them out a bit faster!!!!

[@kelvindavison3314]

Understandable - great that you can still provide top quality content in your free time. Keep it up!

[@arhu74]

I've gotten these exact wheel after seeing the previous video , upgrading from some basic dt swiss training wheels. They don't offer the big overall speed advantage I had hoped but did increase the peak speeds a lot, from the low to mid forties, to the high forties to low fifties. If you want to go faster overall,get better tyres and better clothes, much more cost effective.

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah this is a fair point. If you want a cheaper way to go faster, def invest in some good rubber, makes all the difference. But yeah, buying these wheels won't make you crazy fast out of the gate, but I find they definitely help on longer flatter rides

[@arhu74]

@@TraceVelo seems the gains get bigger the faster you can get, if your average cruising speed is less than 30 km/h, the gain these wheels will give is insignificant but if your average cruising speed is 40 km/h these wheels will make a huge difference (probably in the order of around 5-7 km/h faster for the same effort, judging from my max speeds )

[@ohhi5237]

@@arhu74 ive not touched my carbon bike in years and just commute on a old steel bike with boxrims, all the people buying new bikes are not going any faster over the years...

[@arhu74]

@@TraceVelo Big update, in the mean time I have bought a new bike and put my old bike with these wheels in storage. I wanted to sell that bike but today I noticed one of the spoke nipples broke spontaneously whilst in storage. That could have ended badly if I was actually riding it at high speed

[@cleo7452]

Your views about these wheels are bang-on Sir! In China we get carbon wheels for as low as 200 US dollars a pair . I’ve got two pairs and have ridden on each for over 2000 miles, no issue whatsoever.

[@romt7945]

Hey Luke. Great intro and great feedback on the wheel. The tips about tweaking the spokes to make it square is great. Learning so much from you! It would be nice if you create a TT/triathlon bike similar to how you made your road bike. It'd be fun and educational to see that! Thanks! Cheers!

[@joshchavers7391]

I had a set of chinese carbon rims and they were amazing I had disc brakes so I didn't even have to worry about the brake pad track. They are absolutely safe and worth the money.

[@robinbebbington7063]

I was thinking the same.

[@Deckzwabber]

That makes sense. Probably fixes the wet weather braking issues too.

[@tokyorick79]

First time viewer and that intro absolutely kicked a$$!!! You got a subscriber here bro awesomeness!!!

[@Univision_]

Great video, I’ve had AliExpress carbon wheels (88mm) and completed two full Ironman races, and hundreds of kilometres worth of training on them. Found that packing the rear hub with marine grade grease helps extend the hub life 👍🏼👌🏼

[@jameswisniewski4741]

Hi Chris. Who did you get yours off? I’m looking myself for some >80mm wheels for my tri bike.

[@peterers3]

one of the few vids I havnt seen of you out of all the 75. Damn 3 years ago I started road cycling

[@jpjipperwong]

My assumption was that, that is how all brakes were supposed to be mounted. I am not sure if I am mistaken but usually you mount with the brakes with that angle to get both gradient and reduce squealing which is the trademark of all brakes that are mounted with full contact

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah, this is a fair point. But with all my aluminium rims, I always set up my pads to fully contact the rim, and never had any brake squeal at all. With carbon rims is the only time toeing the brakes in has been necessary for me.

[@suhdud4646]

Enjoying the content mate. Ive had a carbon frame and 88mm wheel set for the past 7 years and not a single issue. By labeling these products as "Fake carbon" is the same as saying that every car that isnt a Ferrari is a fake car.

[@samuelcotton9298]

God every time I watch your videos that always crack me up! Also thank you for the update, I am definitely going to get some new deep sections!

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, thanks Samuel, glad you like the videos!

[@CptMishMashVonRandom]

I'm super scared of Chinese carbon now. I took a chance on a BXT carbon frame. It was great for a few days and then suddenly shattered on my commute to work. Almost killed me and really made me question the risks I'm taking. It wasn't being ridden hard and was on a flat road when it happened. 😱

[@henryjacobsen6873]

Will you ever ride again?

[@hash-CCFF00]

least obvious bmc executive

[@onederment]

Yes... just realize if your tubeless that your sealant will dry out quicker with rim brakes. Not good if you are completely dried out. Big climbs... hot countries... better to replace sealant every six months. My brother came over and we just stopped for a beer and we were looking at a bike I lent him... it was parked up in the sun... and would you believe it... the rear rim let out its air whilst we were watching it. So I know it happens. Some brake pads have channels. Good to make sure the channels are clean too. Just helps with brake efficiency. Loved the intro to your video... brilliant.

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, glad you liked the intro. So these wheels are actually clincher, so run inner tubes. BUT i have literally just got my hands on a pair of tubless rims, so will bear this in mind. Thanks for the comment!

[@pugmandan215]

Fantastic video and thoroughly enjoyable and informative. I have some carbon wheels but disc version and have been getting on great with them. I have done about 1600 miles on them so far and have found them to be very solid. The rear one is beginning to show signs of running a little out of true but its so subtle I won't be seeking to correct it until the good weather has passed.

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, always good to hear some more carbon success stories, thanks for the comment!

[@gg4760-k5n]

Pro tip for you, when you have cassette bite like that, take a file and grind these down back to the ridge level. Solves them problem, allows you to do some saving while extanding the life of the component.

[@rp6760]

Great video. Owner of 3 sets of carbon wheels and also very happy with them

[@TraceVelo]

Nice, good to hear some carbon success stories!!!

[@ipuya]

Amazing intro... put a massive grin on my face 😂 Question- given the potential break track wear and tear & the performance issues in the wet, have you considered a wheel set with disc breaks? I had a quick look and didn’t see this same manufacturer offering any so are you on the lookout for a set at all? Thanks again!!!!

[@thatf_inguy8220]

ipuya check out light bicycle. Tons of affordable disc options with some decent hub and spoke options as well.

[@GeoffTV2]

+1 up vote for the Prime brake pads. I bought a carbon wheelset that came with a set of blue pads (I guess they were those LifeLine ones but dunno). The braking performance was poor and they melted onto the rim depositing a blue stripe around the wheel, which degraded the braking further. When the front pads had worn down, I bought a set of those Prime pads and this transformed the braking to aluminium rim brake levels. Over time it even removed the blue stripe that I hadn't been able to clean off. The pads have lasted very well, nearly 2000 miles now. I don't them in the wet, aluminium rim braking is scary enough in the wet and this bike is my Sunday Best so it only goes on dry roads.

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah I definitely agree with you. Been using a set of Swiss Stop Black Prince pads for the last few months, and now they have worn out, I've just switched back to prime pads yesterday. The prime ones are actually a little better IMO, they stop nicely, the braking performance doesn't degrade as much when the heat is on, and they don't squeal as much under heavy braking. Also just FYI, to clean that built up braking compound from carbon rims, use Acetone (nail polish remover). Gets it right off, but be careful, because if you have any decals, it will strip them right off aswell!

[@GeoffTV2]

@@TraceVelo Great tip, thanks

[@benjocalrision]

Really great video. Intro is brilliant 😅 So sorry for being super picky 🙄🤦 One should never set up any rim brake pads without a little bit of toe-in. You only need a tiny bit on the back, bit more on the front. Flex in the calipers and pad shoes will give you a good contact patch will minimal noise. Really enjoy your content and presenting style. All the best.

[@NextMerckx]

Slick recommendation on the pads, because I’ve been getting really sick of spending over $40 a set for SwissStops to use on a $320 set of wheels lol

[@tirador2749]

Since finding and watching your first video, I became a fan and can't wait for the next one. For us who don't have the means in buying a full carbon branded £1000+ bikes, thank you very much. I am in the process of building a bike and 100% will use Chinese carbon frameset and wheelset. Just have a few questions for you which will serve as my guide in finding the right components for my build. 1. What is the external width of your rims and the size of the tyres you paired them with? And, 2. Going back to your first video, what was the weight of your complete bike? I know that you mentioned that the frameset weighed around 1000 grams. Once again, thank you and more power to you.

[@TraceVelo]

Thats awesome, so glad you like the videos! But yeah that's my whole ethos, people who dont have £1000's lying around can get put off getting into road cycling, but im hoping to show there are other routes into decent carbon bike parts. So the external width of my rims is 25mm, and the tyres I put on are 700x25c . Also the total weight of my bike is around 8.4kg. So not super light, but if you wanted to get some shallower rims, and throw some more money at a higer end groupset, you could shave off quite alot of weight.

[@tirador2749]

@@TraceVelo Thank you very much for your reply. I will be very happy with that weight as my current bike is 10.3 kg. Really appreciate your help. Cheers.

[@HabeasPorpoise]

Could you do a tutorial about checking spoke tension? That would be super useful. Love your channel!

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks, glad you like the videos! So adjusting spoke tensions is a funny one, I have kind of muddled my way through it over the years, but I have found something that works. So yeah next time my wheels go out of true, I'll throw up a quick video. Anyway, thanks for the comment!

[@I.Gave.Up.]

@@TraceVelo just FYI I recently purchased a Giant Propel 2019, and the back wheel bent after 300 miles 65mm carbon slr1. They have a 2 year no questions asked warranty. Got a second Wheel it was bent out of the box, got a third wheel and was bent as well. My bike shop gave me a pair of carbon Renolds 58/62 for free. sooooo even name brands can have bad batches of carbon.

[@TraceVelo]

Ok cool, thanks for the info. Good to know even top brands get it wrong some times. Just goes to show, you gotta keep an eye on your equipment regardless of manufacturer

[@mikeh6286]

Loctite 222 on the nipples after truing can help keep the wheel true. It 's a wicking threadlocker. Also if you want less notching on the freehub you need to grease and torque the cassette lockring properly. When right torque is applied the pressure spreads over multiple cogs. For anyone considering chinese wheels the latest generations now offer textured brake tracks for rain braking. Basalt tracks and other surface treatments will wear out. Use campagnolo red pads to optimize braking wity any rim. Ideally you wany a good combination of brake surface + calipers + pads. Most people get one wrong and blame all wheels and/or switch to disc brakes needlessly. One last point. That spoke key is terrible. You can destroy alloy nipples with that. Don't turn any nipple unless you have a snug fit. Rear drive side spokes being very high tensioned usually get their nipples destroyed first. Ideally get a spoke key with a 3 corner profile. Thanks for the video.

[@blacktophemirt8526]

owned 2 sets of 88mm carbon wheels.the first i had built and the second are from a seller in KY and 3 years of bad roads and potholes on the first set and a year of equally bad roads in central FL and they spin like champs

[@HaveAGoodHeart]

your videos are excellent, especially appreciate the timestamps and the topics you are covering

[@peenoisekazu7432]

Your videos helps alot, Carbon that worth buying for, I want to see more videos of you reviewing cheap but good quality items, and I want to see you flooding my notification(post more videos)

[@az149keyjoecoil4]

A couple of notices.Why the quick release brake lever is engaged?And while trueing the wheels with aero spokes, with the tool you've shown,you also should hold the spoke with a kind of pliers, otherwise turning the nipple you also turn the spoke. Good luck, thanks for the video.

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah good observation! So I actually keep the brake release levers open because the aluminium wheels I use in the rain have a much narrower rim, so when I swap them out I don't have to fiddle too much with the brake cable. I can just close the levers, and the brake caliper fits the narrower rims. Also you're totally right about the spokes, i always hold them with pliers, prob should have mentioned that in the video. Anyway thanks for the comment!

[@az149keyjoecoil4]

@@TraceVelo do you replace the brake pads when swapping the wheels, the aluminium and carbon pads are different?

[@lesliecaswell4484]

I bought them! They work perfectly! Love them! Thanks Luke!

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, good to hear dude!!

[@rblaise3031]

I bought them then removed the Chinese bearing on front and back wheel. Purchased a good stainless steel bearing on hambini website and it completely transformed the wheels. I previously own zip and I can't tell any difference now since I changed the bearing. Urge saving

[@rblaise3031]

I can't tell any difference now between my zip wheel and chinese wheels since I changed the bearing on my chinese wheels for a good stainless steel bearing. Hope it helps anyone who wants to purchase it

[@paulk232]

Great intro, lmao, your vlogs are very entertaining, and the review on the the carbon wheels is great.

[@TraceVelo]

Wicked, thanks Paul, really appreciate it!

[@clghwkdrnt1]

better banter than GCN. nuff said

[@jchan9761]

It's all about the bantz innit

[@salehothman449]

Well Done, you are doing a great job transforming the sport, giving/ setting the minds set of many potential riders who have been stigmatized by what they can afford, its not just the bicycle but it's how strong /talented and how much preparation! 🖒🖒

[@sm1thers]

I bought a Chinese carbon rim for my daily commute Fixie rear wheel back in 2015, its still going strong.

[@anonymous-yg1hy]

Your videos are appreciated. I was recently researching the best bikes for the money and was really discouraged by the insane pricing. I ended up deciding that buying a decent used bike was the only smart use of my money.

[@tullioderosa5657]

Had my own rear wheel built with Chinese deep section carbon rim. Mine has alloy brake track on R36 carbon alloy hub. Built with CX Ray it's a great wheel, no regrets. My front wheel is a Campagnolo Vento, 98 version which is why I went for alloy brake track on the rear.

[@skiorsnowboard]

How tall are you, or how short are the doors in your apartment 😂😂?

[@AmateurExpert23]

I stopped watching at 1:40. Best video I’ve seen on KZbin.

[@dubpilot1]

I took the challenge and built a bike too its worth it, love the channel. My brother bought a specialized full carbon fiber bicycle for 3.6k I'm not even at 8 hundred with all shimano 105 components r7000 ,it just took time .

[@TobiMcTobeface]

On the freehub just file the bites down and get a bunch more miles out of it. Bearing wise don't use cheap bearings. It's really worth getting some better quality ones as they're built to a much higher tolerance and with decent dust and moisture shielding and you've got a quality set of wheels. Bearings are probably the biggest down side of cheap wheels but one of the simplest things to replace just don't skimp on them it's not worth the steadily increasing drag and rapid wear. Rough guide is about £10 a bearing and you'll have a wheel that lasts and lasts and lasts.

[@bardenegri21]

Good stuff, great production value. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to more content along these lines, many manufacturers from China that put out brand name products also make their own OEM stuff that is just as good at a fraction of the price. It's a good niche to explore

[@carkegan7699]

your one the best bike channels you deserve more subs really hope see more vids from you

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks kegan, glad you liked it! I'm working on getting the videos out a bit more often.

[@briansamuel5670]

I was really looking forward for a video from you trace.. You were missed bro.. Love the video man!

[@OFishAl]

Love this vid, so well done and very watchable. A real life "sense check" on the cost of cycle components. I do think the carbon wheelsets are way over priced !!!

[@danielh4857]

LOVE your channel mate

[@deanprosser5224]

Informative and entertaining another good video Luke, can't wait until the next one.

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, thanks Dean!!!

[@pokerbarloahavia]

Nice video love the comedy and editing. I will get open mold soon from light carbon.

[@andrejkiss]

4:55 Is that split in the tyre dangerous? I have it on my michelin pro4 endurance after 2000km, and I'm unsure if that's a reason to replace it. Thank you for your entertaining and informative videos on chinese carbon. I'm considering building the same bike as yours.

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, glad you like the videos!! So I had a look, and that's not a split, it's just where the tyre construction alters down the side wall. But yeah if you do have a split, definitely replace it, could be super dodgy if the tyre blows off the rim at high speed...

[@davidsture5677]

If you have a split/wear right above the rim it's often caused by improper brake pad set up and you may be rubbing the sidewall of your tire when you are braking

[@minjin0259]

A trick to toe in your brake pads. Take two rubber bands of the same size and tie a know in them making a small loop of the same size in one end of the rubber band (think of a figure 8). Take the small loop and put it around the rear end of each pad in the same location, the set your pads. You will now have the same toe in on both pads.

[@abedfo88]

Powerway hubs are decent. Easy to change the bearings too

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah totally agree. They get the job done, and servicing them is a breeze!

[@salsalawyer]

Very well done video! Great humor. Now it's time for the full revisit on the bike frame! Also would it be feasible to just upgrade the hub to a higher quality one and not have to do as much servicing?

[@TraceVelo]

Awesome, thanks Reggie! But yeah, so you could potentailly upgrade the hubs, but then you are looking at the cost of new hubs and spokes, and paying someone to re-build the wheel for you (unless you build it yourself). Basically if you want to go down this route, i would reccomend you buy the bare rim, alot of ebay sellers offer them :)

[@richard7059]

I have just purchased a 650C 50mm ebay carbon rim which I am putting a German Schmidt Son dynamo hub on and local shop is lacing it up for me . They were very impressed with the build quality. Will when I get clearance to provide confidential documentation on their effectiveness. Am still seeking diplomatic immunity from government statutes I am currently restrained by ! end off communications Chase! Australian Operative :Mr No Name !

[@ADCFproductions]

amazing start of the video, had a good laugh! For some reason it brought back memories from Max Payne 2, i think it was the moustache! xD Also, the wheels look goooooooood!!

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks ADCF, glad you liked it!

[@CountryLifeChannel]

excellent, fantastic effort. really great work sir !

[@TraceVelo]

@Jamiedenny, thanks so much!!!

[@makemineapint]

Re: Bike shop servicing, I bought a second hand set of Zipp 404 (alu brake track) for £300 and they are absolute SOB's to get tyres onto (Gatorskins for the rough roads around me), so its the 'expensive' brands as well. Still they are nice wheels.

[@OmarCalderon01]

I am sold. thanks for putting this together, very comprehensive.

[@TreFlip1992]

+1 for the Prime pads. I have a set of their carbon 50mm's on my Roadbike ( See profile for picture ) and never had a single issue with them. that squealing you mentioned must be down to the the wheels as I have my pads set up flush & parallel with the rim and not once have they ever squealed.

[@messymimoo]

Great video man! Better than those other chaps in those other cycling vids, who try to be funny but aren't.

[@joshb898]

I have to say, I love the effort you put into your videos.

[@chrisbowman2030]

A friend of mine (bike snob if there ever was one) bought some Lightweight full carbon wheels. After just 100 km on flat terrain the front wheel develop loose bearings. The rear wheel was 2mm out of true. He send the wheels to lightweight, to get the fixed. It takes month.

[@cscdav]

Excellent video! Keep up the great work. I purchased a similar set from AliExpress from a seller called Fitlite Carbon with Powerway Hubs. So far about 1000 miles on them no problem.

[@TraceVelo]

Wicked, good to hear some more Chinese carbon success stories!!!

[@malcolmhales8181]

Ive had a pair of Far sport Chinese carbon wheels for about 5 year, ridden over 15000 miles, with no more problems than general wear and tear. Too many magazine and KZbin are paid to say derogatory stuff about them. ide buy them again in a heart beat

[@p504504]

GOD HELP ME DID I LAUGH OUT LOUD at the intro like a madman... Instant subscribe.

[@WillPower46]

Every issue you have mentioned about the water in the hub and wheels going out of true I have experienced with top priced Zipp wheels.

[@GNARGNARHEAD]

love the break cables, looks like you're pumping venom through the thing xD

[@joegrif35]

awesome intro T. Velo Thank you for sharing bro.

[@TraceVelo]

Wicked, thanks Joel, appreicate it!

[@toddfoster975]

Great video and I especially liked the drone shots. As much as I do like your bike, I look forward to when manufacturers start going back to using color in their frames. All bikes seem to look identical now with all the matte black they all have been using. I realize that’s what buyers are wanting, but I’m ready for a change.

[@kabadisha]

The cheap ones will probably always be left unpainted. It cuts out cost and that's the primary driver for their target market.

[@TraceVelo]

Thanks Todd! But yeah if you fancy the same frame in a funky colour, search ebay for 'Tideace FM-R09'

[@jeremysart]

Loving this channel. I've been looking at some Superteam wheels to replace my aging Bontrager Aura 5s.

[@jeremysart]

Super jealous of your riding locations 🤩 flat as a pancake where I live.

[@SmeriglioDavid]

Hi Luke - great stuff. Like many here I am done with the hyper expensive bike world. Let's be clear, most good products are not cheap; labour and good R&D deserve to be paid for their efforts and ingenuity, but the cycling world has leapfrogged any sense of rational for fair pricing. You have done a great job of dispelling the fear propaganda which was/is seems to be the status quo's weapon against Chinese parts. Ok - in actually fact I commented on this particular video to try to see if anyone knows if the prime brake pads are still available as I cannot find them across many sites (amazon ali ebay...).

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Why would I buy cheap carbon wheels for £300 when I can buy more expensive ones for £2000+ . Mmm ok I get your point. Met a fella the other day salivating over a bike he was looking at & he said it cost £7k. When I got back home I Goggled his and that cost £5k so it seems when you pay out good money theres always the next one up. Think I would rather comply with your advice and go Chinese as it seems to me that you can save yourself a boat load of money and still have a good bike. Another great video TV thanks.

[@jamesnoz]

Great to see another Devon rider! Sadly can't see the seller anymore on eBay.

[@joeschmoe3630]

Cosmic Elites are fantastic wheels for the price. I have Super Team 50mm wheels on two of my bikes, they've been fine so far. 350 bucks a pair.

[@mischamanser]

just a tip from a mechanic: ALWAYD TOE YOUR BRAKES IN. Carbon or not :)

[@TraceVelo]

I never have with my alu rims, but then they never used to squeal. What is the benefit of toeing in with Alu rims?

[@fat_pantani]

@@TraceVelo it stops brake judder under heavy braking .

[@firesurfer]

@@TraceVelo I always toed in my brake pads to stop squeal no matter what kind of pad or rim.

[@jkjkhardcore666]

I've never toed anything, except maybe with an ex experimenting....for like a second...

[@beeble2003]

@Andy White By the time you're braking heavily, the whole pad is compressed flat against the rim anyway. So what difference would toeing make?

[@nunofrednunes]

Congrats on your videos! Been "binge watching" them for the past 2 days and loved it all. The intros! OMG; the INTROS! (Slam poetry is absolutely memorable). Love your responsible and no-snob approach to bike gear, even more so with the miles to back up your words. Small question: being frames and wheels such large items; aren't there any problems with entering the European space? (import taxes, customs hold-up time) Thanks

[@requiemforaflower]

That start is so damn good.

[@TraceVelo]

Cheers dude, appreciate it! I was worried it was a bit off the wall, but the comments have been super positive, so glad it went down so well!

[@polthomaskeeley7860]

LARGE RESPECT FOR THAT INTRO 😎 Let's get you a cameo on one of the *Kung Fury* sequels lol. Thank you trace video for the reviews and content as always. (I wonder if your and China Cycling's paths will ever cross 🤔😀) Chapeau a vous!

[@ExcedereInInfinitum]

good job my dude, you really deliver. I almost insta subbed after watching the first part of the video, just making sure you do your follow ups xd

[@sonygoup]

Thanks bud. great video. Gonna buy these for my restoration project of a fiju newest 3.0

[@juaniflaco]

Most of them are probably fine, great even. I do know someone who had unbranded chinese wheels delaminate during a race. He didn't crash immediately but got neutral support wheels which were narrower, in the heat of the race he forgot to adjust the brakes and later did crash as a result. He was ok but but the point is that they shouldn't fail on one steep but short (~1 minute) descent. Having said that, there are good ones and bad ones, and if you ride in an area where there isn't much elevation change or are riding discs it probably doesn't matter.

[@gumby754]

I’ve had one for 5 years with thousands of miles no issue. I keep the bike stored inside as well

[@briansamuel5670]

Lol I'm laughing so hard!!! Your channel is going to explode in no time#

[@TraceVelo]

DAMOGAN, good to hear from you! Yeah glad you like the video, working on the next one as we speak. Need to find a way to get these out more often, can't quit the day job just yet tho!

[@briansamuel5670]

@@TraceVelo bro your videos are always very entertaining. I've recorded some rides with my phone.. Not the best quality.. I'm trying.. Wish I could share them with you.. Trust me that intro is the best!

[@richardcarr6493]

WELL DONE you cover all the issues people would wonder about !! l do have a question off topic how do you find Tiagra shifters ??

[@tommyphillips8547]

I've been on holiday near the first ride you showed, there's some serious hills!

[@TraceVelo]

Yeah tell me about it! Bit of a difference from South West London that's for sure

[@tommyphillips8547]

@@TraceVelo haha yeah, climbing 1000m in 80km leaves you pretty stiff the next day!!