You have taken the time to develop a load that matches your rifle. Good job on that. Also, your rifle is obviously very well built because it shoots excellent. Good job on that. On the tuner break. First of all, you stated that you were going to run it through the two full revolutions. You did not do that. And if you watched the video on how to find your tune, you’ll know that you will find good spots and then if you continue, it’ll start to come apart again and then you’ll find another good spot. And that is why it is important to do the full two turns. I think the fact that it shows that some settings have wider groups than others means that it’s doing its job. You just have to find what makes you happy. I personally like the tuner and I have three of them now. So far they have made my rifle shoot excellently to my liking. keep the videos coming. I really am enjoying this caliber especially the 6 mm arc which is what I’m working on right now.
@joelclark213010 ай бұрын
I wish you all the best when you're six millimeter arc 😢 That cartridge is not that great. Really does not shoot lights out in an. AR PLATFORM. There are so many other better cartridges for a r fifteen platform . Wish you all the best.
@justflylow10 ай бұрын
@@joelclark2130 to each his own. I guess someone removed my comment explaining my opinion on the subject. Probably because I referenced another video. No big deal. There are lots of videos that show the 6mm ARC doing a great job. I think 6ARC is a good cartridge. Some may not. It your choice to make.
@physics18bravo10 ай бұрын
You made a great observation on the shooter bias. Why record or gather data if all you will do is say I feel, I feel I feel, I’m happy. If you come up with an experiment, you go through with your commitment and take all the data points and then perform an analysis. Also he isn’t F class, but he wants to shoot out to 1000?
@boltactoinbarney10 ай бұрын
I'd stick with 4. But negligible with that rifle. All the 6 and 6.5 rifles I have, like the 4 to 4.5 setting regardless of load. Nice shooting sir
@wayne-oo10 ай бұрын
Funny you and Gavin both test breaks on the same day !!
@michaelg116410 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and thanks for putting these videos out. Some good stuff here. Setting 0 has a little horizontal, setting 2 tightens, setting 4 has a little vertical. Setting 2 is likely your best splitting the difference. Setting 8 doesn’t have tight clusters before or after. That’s one to stay away from.
@justice132710 ай бұрын
A few things to consider: one, I don’t know which version of the EC tuner brake you have but if it is generation one you have to eliminate the backlash. This is to say if you work your way up to setting 10 or 12 and you want to go back to 6 you need to dial it past 6 by a few numbers (5,4) and then dial it back up to 6. This is why Eric developed generation two is to eliminate the backlash and the spring holds the setting better. I have noticed on my very accurate rifles. The EC tuner break is much harder to tune however, on carbon fiber, hunting barrels and especially using factory ammo. It makes a huge difference in precision and accuracy.
@USAACbrat10 ай бұрын
i have a very stiff barrel, 16" 300 BO, 7/8" before the thread
@RCx4410 ай бұрын
Then rub your magic beans and it still doesn't make a difference.
@ewathoughts847610 ай бұрын
Basically shows that if the load is already tuned the EC Tuner can have little effect.
@lmbear10 ай бұрын
Nice. Making the Browning/Winchester BOSS great again. The tuner/muzzle break, ugly thing on the end of the barrel that guys used to love to hate on. They are great tools, if you don't know how to fine tune your handloads, or shoot a lot of factory ammo.
@Mike-xi4zt10 ай бұрын
Who cares what it looks like. If it actually works.
@RCx4410 ай бұрын
@@Mike-xi4zt it doesn't work
@lifesfordeath9 ай бұрын
I tend to tune at further distances 200 or 300 if possible. The majority of the time you want the groups obviously to be round but we tune more to get the vertical out. I would re try tuning out at a further distance and see what the groups form
@6n51810 ай бұрын
Try 4 again and I bet it opens up. I've had the same experience when it comes to tuners. No matter the caliber or rifle. I'll get an awesome group at a certain setting and keep going with tuner changes. After I will come back to verify a setting and the group opens up. But if I take the tuner off, I get consistent groups and often much better groups than with the tuner. I think tuners are more geared toward factory ammo. I don't shoot factory ammo in anything but pistol so I can't say for sure.
@USAACbrat10 ай бұрын
My tuner Varys by the day, might go 8-9,or6 changes with the bullet weight sometimes.
@USAACbrat10 ай бұрын
you have an accurate rifle, mine, gave me better groups with Boattail bullets than i was getting but the rifle shot the same as when i got it, well i think it makes more difference with thinner barrels.
@dahut361410 ай бұрын
I think it's interesting that in the Ultimate Reloader .30 Cal. muzzle brake test, the EC Tuner brake only reduced peak recoil force by 28.7%, while the leading contender reduced peak force by 48.8%- surely at the cost of greater rearward directed muzzle blast. The radial design of the Bergara, which is similar to the Savage brake, resulted in a peak force reduction of 28%.
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Mine is the 6.5mm so prab a bit better. 6 BR is pretty low recoil and haven't noticed an issue.
@Mike-xi4zt10 ай бұрын
@@RobsReloading less burned powder regardless of cartridge normally equals less exploding gases to be affected by a muzzle brake brake.
@maxcoatlhunter432210 ай бұрын
If it were me, I'll keep it at #2. To bad that tuner does not fit my 6.5PRC or I'll buy it from you :)
@douglasbattjes399110 ай бұрын
I'm wondering why you didn't use the 4 or 8 setting, those are almost one hole group's ? Great video on the EC turner, love mine and have the same result's 👍👍
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Wanted to go in between two good settings. With this sample size I would say all the groups are actually probably the same. Went with one I thought would be reliably good.
@Chevy2U10 ай бұрын
You should sign-up for the Erik Cortina KYL.
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Long drive to Texas from me
@MrBoo196310 ай бұрын
DANG, Love it!
@juanherrera267210 ай бұрын
Pma tool has a mirage shield that will come in handy for ya $10 shipped.
@macdaddy3210 ай бұрын
Do you like the mdt weights? Thinking about getting some.
@brsmith280110 ай бұрын
Good stuff!
@bobbywinn654810 ай бұрын
Did you do any kind of glass bedding in the chassis or is it just torqued?
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Just torqued to 65inch #. The seekins Havak hit was designed for this chassis so don't see a reason to.
@meld910 ай бұрын
How you liking the front rest?
@kyley80810 ай бұрын
Nice SD and ES is there a reason you grip the rifle like that do you find it better then other ways
@Mike-xi4zt10 ай бұрын
The way he manipulates the bolt makes me cringe.
@eggbert19110 ай бұрын
So the idea with the tuner is to take a mediocre group with good sd/es and tighten the group?
@RCx4410 ай бұрын
No just shifts poi by shifting a weight on the muzzle.
@raythemanroe10 ай бұрын
Can I ask what magazine you are using for that?
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Mdt 10 rounds br mag
@raythemanroe10 ай бұрын
@@RobsReloading thanks
@powswe10 ай бұрын
Thank you sir, you have proven once again that tuners on a well built precision rifle is worthless and a waste of money. There is applications for the tuner, but a centerfire precision rifle is not that application. All your shots are all within the SD of group size for that rifle and load. Now stop wasting components load developing and concentrate on getting rid of that "cold bore".
@jonlennon334810 ай бұрын
Who made the barrel and chambered it?
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Krieger barrel chambered by me. Video on the channel of this
@guardianminifarm800510 ай бұрын
Tells us that this bullet, powder, charge seat depth shoot great from this gun. Lol.
@MikeBain-i9q10 ай бұрын
All very interesting but why do you not work the bolt correctly !!! Watch a Ryan Cleckner clip he'll run you through how to do it right.😮
@JackLucas-jh1eo10 ай бұрын
I am not sure why you are engaging in this exercise. Your gun shoots superbly and the tuner is not adding anything its accuracy.
@RobsReloading10 ай бұрын
Simply a test to see if there is anything to gain by moving the tuner. It also gave me a reason to shoot a larger sample across the chronograph.