Show and Tell: NX-class from Pacific 201

With Pacific 201, I had the chance to redesign the NX-class to fit better into the Star Trek timeline and push it closer to the aesthetic of TOS.
www.pacific201.com/
TREKYARDS EPISODE:
• Trekyards EP183 - NX-0...
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Dominick LaLicata
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[@Hans-jc1ju]

I fracking love how it feels TOS but still unambiguously is the NX

[@BjornCanute]

Not only does that look more like TOS, it also looks more like something closer to our era of space engineering. Very nice!

[@ssm5774]

I feel like your version should have been used for Enterprise. Yours looks more like a crossover from what NASA would do married with Star Trek TOS.

[@garbagefreak]

Would have gone perfectly with the NASA-style uniforms the crew had.

[@BlackDelegation]

I may be a bit bias since the NX-01 is my favorite ship in all of space-based science fiction but I think the Pacific 201 NX-Class is fucking beautiful.

[@H3zzard]

Love that deflector detail (or lack of it!). A really sensible next step in the evolution. I prefer this to the unofficially-official NX refit with the secondary hull.

[@EVAUnit4A]

Wasn't there an aft-facing torpedo launcher installed there for "The Xindi"?

[@residentmemberofhell]

The NX class was refit to have a Engineering hull and we quickly phased out like 10 years after the end of ENT, Thats both Memory Alpha and Beta lore. not to metion most of the NX's were lost in the Romulan war.

[@cdbtheclaw]

As far as I know the NX refit is only Memory Beta lore also main engineering sits in the saucer section in front of the shuttle bay, warpcore and all.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@cdbtheclaw It was intended by John Eaves and co, for if they'd gotten a fifth season or more, actually. And used in Ships of the Line calendars instead.

[@garbagefreak]

I sooo wish this had been the actual NX-01 design for the show. Something about it looks so natural and easy on the eyes. The swept back nacelle pylons were one of the major elements that made it look not era appropriate to me. The original design looks more like a TOS movie era refit of this design.

[@soljafon]

The original NC 01 was a ship that was bareley done, Starfleet wasn't yet competent at building ships

[@GeeZeRFroG]

"There are no corners on a circle" I don't know why, but when you said that I just burst out laughing. I tried to explain why to my coworker and she just looked at me like I was skinning a cat.

[@TheJLF65]

There actually was a legitimate reason for the swept pylons in TMP - it allowed them to extend the shuttle bay. If you watch the scene were a pod enters the shuttle bay, it's far larger than in TOS, and that's entirely due to moving where the pylons attach to the secondary hull. They couldn't move the warp nacelles further forward, hence, swept pylons.

[@TheBabaloga]

I know this was two years ago but it's funny that he literally made a video explaining exactly that a year before you left this comment.

[@TheJLF65]

@@TheBabaloga I know. I hadn't seen that video before this. Guess he answered his own question with the video. I tend to find videos, then watch the other videos by the person in reverse order, going further back in time watching their videos. But some videos get suggested by YT that catch my attention and I wind up seeing older videos that have already had any questions answered. Oh well. My bad. :)

[@keirapoppins2514]

I love almost all of the edits, apart from NX-07's name. You see, the first seven NX class ships were named after space shuttles. You had Enterprise (NX-01), named after a test shuttle, NX-02 to NX-06 named after the shuttles that flew to space, and NX-07 named 'Intrepid', after a full mock-up. I don't think that NX-08 has a canonical name (I could be wrong), so she could well be the 'Prospect'.

[@calvingrondahl1011]

I really like your design changes and your reasoning for them. I watched Star Trek in 1966 when I was 16 years old.

[@Foomandoonian]

Taste is funny isn't it? -- For me, the 90 degree pylons on the original Enterprise are one of the things that dates that design the most, after the deflector dish. I think the refit look is much better.

[@venkuzephyr]

Foomandoonian I agree. I like sleek new looking stuff and the TOS ships and look are my least favorite

[@xheralt]

I split the difference; curved pylons are an aesthetic that should only exist on or after the refit period.

[@JafuetTheSame]

refitted enterprise is my second most favorite st design (after enterprise d of course). i think there are overall a lot more rhomboid shapes in TOS movies designs rather than regular shapes (circles, squares) which are more prominent in the show

[@hexzinggaming5040]

The pylons I think on the original are the only bit a find ugly. I love the old deflector dish

[@EVAUnit4A]

Foomandoonian In a strange way, I think John Eaves' take on the _Enterprise_ from -std- took care of the issue of "modernizing" the ol' gal up to 21st-century visual aesthetic standards; even more-so than Ryan Church did for his version in _2009._ Putting my money where my mouth is- kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2fCqIajlK2KaZY

[@sterlingwallace7465]

I really love your whole interpretation of star trek, I can't get enough. Love your work and your attention to technical details

[@DigitalCasm]

You're understanding of design language, and your ability to explain it away in terms anyone can understand is outstanding.

[@eXcommunicate1979]

Love how you smoothed out the catamarans. Never understood why the NX's catamarans were so "lumpy," except that they strangely just copied the Akira design. Yours makes way more sense. I also like the cowling over the deflector dishes on the bow of the saucer. Nice touch.

[@ryancox4498]

Absolutely love these designs! They're really beautiful. This one in particular is kinda amusing to me because when I first saw your design for the Pacific, my initial thought was "this is what the NX-01 should've looked like." It feels like a perfect intermediary step between current real-life space technology and TOS future technology.

[@Exploder11]

There's another good reason to ignore the novels, fewer people will have read them than those who have seen the shows. So in either case you get a stronger foundation and more creative freedom. You are doing fantastic work.

[@Todd.P]

I love the perfect circle hull!

[@terranempire2]

I love your NX07 except for the ( I guess we should call it empennage) between the booms of the catamarans with out the warp pod it just feels like it's missing something. I get your reason for the deletion but I feel they could have installed something there, I don't know missile pod, Sensor pallet, cargo module.

[@cernstormrunner7263]

There's still something there, maybe it's a dock/port for something like a mission specialty pod?

[@BVCStudios]

This is way better (and way more thought out) than the NX we got on the show. Well done.

[@radeakins]

I kitbashed an TOS era NX years ago. I made the catamaran hulls straight but I kept the raked warp pylons. It was from two different scales of the TOS enterprise. The ERTL 537 and spare parts from the polar lights 1000. Some pictures are still on Starship Modeler federation gallery as USS Swiftsure if you'd want to take a look.

[@Lokiawa]

I like both this design by you and Doug's designs for the original NX and NX refit, I really like the pop up panelled cannon/turrets too.

[@MarcelGomesPan]

I remember discussing fantasy swords vs real functional swords from different times and eras with a friend. ”He said something like ” functionality looks cool”. I guess that’s the thing with your ships. They are not designed to look cool, they are designed to ”work”....and thus they look cool. 🖖

[@procyon6370]

Hey, wait, did you just edit this? I was looking at this a couple minutes ago and it said "functionally looks cool". Just want to know, I've never seen that before.

[@ryjtse]

EC, you make fantastic content! Love this reimagining of the NX.

[@Wildgraywolf1]

I like your vision of the NX-class; it's lean, smooth and graceful.

[@nefariousgremlin7554]

I feel like it works really well as a later refit of the NX class, not as a canon replacement for it

[@captbrody5036]

I'm pretty ok with your NX concept. The NX class is one of my all time favorite ST ship classes. I think you did make it fit more in line with the TOS timeline. I fi were going to change anything, I would remove the pop up weapon turrets and add the ball turrets more common to the time. I feel like that is an update that would have been done if Starfleet was updating the class. Thanks.

[@xheralt]

I like your tweaks far more than the efforts to add a secondary hull to NX-01 or any other ship of the class.

[@ashleydarkstone1949]

Not sure why it needed to be closer to the TOS aesthetic, it's from 100 years prior to the Constitution-class. For the purposes of your film, sure. But you shouldn't bash the design because it isn't more TOS-looking. Doug Drexler put a lot of thought into the design and functionality of the NX-class, and it's worth looking into his comments on it, or even talking to him about it directly. And to explain some of the parts that you've mentioned... The scoop on the top is a matter intake. The warp pylons, while swept back, have a somewhat raised narrower part which is what Doug preferred the pylons to be, because it was a nod to how advanced Trek tech is, where you can have a narrow pylon like that connected to these huge engines. This was before the executive meddling bulked them up more, but he kept that part distinct from the rest of it. The shape of the booms extending aft conform roughly to the shape of the saucer from a profile view. It curves then slopes like the saucer. It also gives a good amount of clearance to the observation dome in between them. And just a few other comments... I know you were going for a low-detail look, but where are the docking ports and sensors? And you made the rest of the ship more TOS, but then actually made the nacelles way less TOS than they were. Doesn't make much sense if you're trying to justify the changes, but I get that you're making it more in-line with your film's aesthetic and functionality too. I think you should probably learn a bit more about the details before you make changes to them though. Especially when a lot of thought went into them, and you seem to discard them on a whim.

[@Alexander_Wills]

Wow. just Wow. For everyone who does not have the time read the above essay it on a most basic and extremely simplified level boils down to: You changed it! You shouldn't have done that because everything Doug Drexler designs is PERFECT!!!!!!!. To everyone else: This is Eric Henry's Fan design for HIS universe of Trek. Therefore all arguments like the above are INVALID. If you don't like that feel free to go make your own.

[@integrazimmy]

Alexander Wills I don't think you understand the purpose of these comments. Sure, some people blow off steam much like yourself, but the points that +Ashley Darkstone made were valid. See, the reason for the commenting is so that the owner of the channel can listen to feedback and take these comments into consideration and make the necessary changes in order to make his film a hit!!! Let me put it to you this way, a chef who swears at every client for disliking his food isn't a chef. A REAL chef MUST listen to feedback or risk going out of business. After all... He is there to cook for others for a living, not for himself. And I'm not saying he's here for profit, but if he really wants to give fans something they'd wanna come back for, he needs these comments. A person in a picture can't see everything on a macro level, but the fans can help with that in a subtle way. I don't believe your rage to be justified. Just stick to opinions without the firing of photon torpedoes at the first sign of what you believe to bad trouble for Erick Henry. If you respect others, others will respect you!!! Besides... Isn't the Start Trek universe about becoming better people???

[@eXcommunicate1979]

Ashley, a lot of thought went into the Akira design, which was then aped to create the NX.

[@rolandogamez]

Ashley, xCommunicate is only sort of off base on this one. Drexler did a valiant job of making a horrible decision livable. The Corporate Hacks told him to make the Akira the hero ship (sound familiar?) He knew it didn't fit and did what he could, and a damn fine job of it, to make it fit. I applaud Drex for his work!

[@MegaBoby111]

Completely agree with you Ashley, I also feel that Doug's designs for an NX-01 Refit did a far better job at connecting the two periods by directly adding in design elements found on ships in the ToS creating a strange, but interesting, blend of the two asthetics.

[@Obssy]

I absolutely love the version with the straight nacelles. You should follow your gut and use that one. It's a fantastic idea!

[@shinjofox]

The version with the straight pylons to the nacelles looks so much better than the way there actually are.

[@ransom182]

shinjofox oh good lord I totally disagree! I think that version looks boring, uninspired and a bit tacky. No accounting for taste though eh?!

[@BenoitLamarche]

Agree 100%!!

[@josephwisniewski3673]

The scanning equipment on top is a nice touch: very LoS:ToS "Jupiter 2".

[@MrPingn]

I like the straight rear pontoons over the slightly tapering curve. But I can understand why you went with it. The straight kinda fits more with the P-38 Lightning inspiration that the pontoons originally were drawn from. Gave it more of an aircraft feel. Great work.

[@JeghedderThomas]

Love the utilitarian approach to the design.

[@STNeish]

I love what you've done, with ONE exception. I would have put the name of the ship under the big 07 on the centerline, I just think it looks better and hearkens back to the Original Series more.

[@Foomandoonian]

7:55 I really like your straight-pylon version of this ship! In fact, I really like all of your Pacific-201 designs. If I had the power, I'd have you design all the ships for Star Trek Discovery. This is exactly the kind of thoughtful soft reboot that fans would appreciate.

[@rudyardolejnik5728]

This is a solid interpretation for a TOS style NX ship. Your catamaran hull struts when they're straight looks pretty good, but I get what you're saying about loosing the shape of the NX. Have you thought of flipping those struts to be on the ventral part of the ship, keeping the pylons and nacelles in the same orientation? It would make allow the saucer to feel a little more independent of the warp engine apparatus while still feeling NX-y. Also, why couldn't the deflector array systems be in that front box section of the NX instead of behind the three windows in the front of the saucer?

[@jordanreed3675]

If you want a ship with the configuration you suggest look up the Poseidon class starship is basically the Miranda class to the NX classes constitution class

[@abledog006]

I Like your take on the NX class waaaaay more. You pointed out exactly shapes that fought against the design of the NX making it awkward overall.

[@davemcbeardface8976]

Your version of the NX class is much more in keeping with the 201 aesthetic, I also agree that removing the large blank plate would have been for the better

[@elmsigreen]

I've always been a much bigger Star Wars fan but with Discovery, all the other series being on Netflix and especially your channel I've slowly been turning to the other side. I mostly started watching your videos because of the Star Wars stuff but thanks to you I've become some what of a Trekkie.

[@jaylene1701]

I wish you success in your Pacific 201 production.

[@AdamSkrzypczak]

These are awesome! Good work!

[@Andromeda4482]

"There's 3 lights" THERE IS 5

[@elpresidentcamacho4994]

This ship just hits all right design points for me. Can't wait till someone makes an NX mod for Starfield once that's out, because this would make for a -best of both (TOS/NX) ship mod on any space game.

[@TITAN_101]

Did you know in STO (Star Trek: Online) thanks to their new-ish "Legendary Ship pack" you can make something semi-close. The ship gets both the NX & beta-cannon NX-refit choices AND a new one (Columbia-class) the saucer is more rounded & has the deflector built into the ram-scoop-thing. If you know someone who has the ship in STO PC ask them to use: reg-NX secondary hull, NX-refit nacelles, with Columbia saucer & pylons draped in TOS era skin... I mean you still get stuck with the warp field regulator & the Columbia saucer extends back a bit between the pylons but it is semi-close.

[@Balmung60]

So, there was actually a semi-official retrofit design that was supposed to look like a middle-ground between ENT and TOS in a different way, which would have added a secondary hull very similar to that of the Constitution Class (complete with copper deflector dish) and would have extended the pylons through the struts and into the secondary hull. While it was made by the people who made the official NX-class model, there were never any plans to actually include the refit in the series, but commercially-available model kits of it were made and the NX-refit has appeared in later official materials.

[@onetruekeeper]

Your design ideas resonate with me. Looking forward to your concepts for the Klingon and Romulan ships if you plan to do them.

[@Alkonium]

Interesting point you made about the nacelle pylons, when Star Trek Beyond swept them back on the KT Enterprise, and they're like that on the retconned Enterprise on Discovery and Short Trek, plus eventually Strange New Worlds.

[@cdlord80]

I'm a bit biased, I have an unhealthy love affair with the NX. Having said that, I like *most* of what was done/said here.

[@BrenainnJordan]

Highly cool, really nice design work

[@kirishima638]

I fucking love this rendition of the NX-01. Enterprise was a prequel and this was was what the Enterprise was *supposed* to look like. But the creators couldn't resist the temptation to re imagine everything.

[@TwinPeaksIndustries]

And why shouldn't they? The TOS designs are now 50+ years old and honestly look quite dated today.

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

@@TwinPeaksIndustries The movie ones held up much better, but TOS is a product of its time. They weren’t kidding when they said the crew of the Enterprise was boldly going where no man had gone before: it featured some big milestones in TV, including the first interracial kiss (keep in mind it was the sixties). That lore’s been written for 55 years. It should be left as it was a generation ago, not screwed with by CBS or Abrams. At least Abrams had the decency to use an alternate timeline and CBS had the balls to take Discovery 1100 years into the future to the time of the Enterprise-J (which I hope will make a comeback somehow).

[@jef_3006]

NX-01 was named Enterprise after the first shuttle. NX-02 is Columbia after the second shuttle. Presumably, this continued, with NX-03 Challenger, NX-04 Discovery, NX-05 Atlantis, and NX-06 Endeavour. I believe the book named the NX-07 Intrepid after one of the shuttle ground mock-ups, but there is one other shuttle that actually flew in space: the Soviet shuttle, Buran. I think NX-07 Buran is a pretty good name.

[@dirtclaude6832]

Keep up the great work..... It looks awesome!

[@connarcomstock161]

I can dig it. I'm figuring it's been like, refit and modified since they were built, pretty neat. One thing I love is how you dealt with the guns. On the NX-01 it seemed like Trip just shoved phase cannons wherever there was space, they were all over the place. It was mildly comical, but I never really liked it. I don't know if phase-cannons have recoil, but I always figured they were pretty power hungry, and you'd need to put them in specific places to feed them.

[@VaderTheWhite]

1) Your design is perfect. 2) Would love to see the NX refit revised in this style.

[@Skybaby79]

Much, much better than anything the "official" producers ever made. Lines up with ToS nicely

[@sarreqteryx]

the "warp field stabilizer" was the engineering section, where the engine goes. you've removed the engine. Also: there IS an NX refit (renamed the Columbia class), it's got a full secondary hull slung from both the pontoons and the saucer memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Columbia_class

[@EVAUnit4A]

Nope, EC was correct in this video! The NX-Class' Engine Room is on D Deck, just behind the Bridge, but still in front of the Shuttle Bay. www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/other/nx01-side.gif

[@3Rayfire]

I like your straightened out version, that looks great...but you're right it doesn't look NX-class anymore. But I feel like all later NX classes would have the secondary hull.

[@DrejStinger1986]

I like the little pop-up turrets. I put those on some of the ships I came up with.

[@sartainja]

Superb work.

[@conza1989]

@7:53 I'd be interested to see a continuation of this design, I think the reason it didn't work is simply the catermaran sections extend too far from the saucer, if that was shortened to be more like the original and if the nacelles were closer in size to the original, that would be an interesting design.

[@michaelvoeller2152]

This is really fantastic work. I've always really like Enterprise's, aesthetic because it seemed like something that matched the modern "forms over function" look of spacecraft today with something that could believably become TOS. I've always loved the real world naval look on starships, yellow and white checkering, red warning strips, and black lettering on gray with spinning dishes and antenna. It's something I always thought BSG and Stargate did very well, so I'm very excited to see star trek vessals with that treatment. Did you see the concept art of what an NX refit would look like released by the original designers? They added a separate engineering hull and it's also pretty interesting in modernizing the NX into the TOS Era.

[@mrfly8133]

I'm gonna say I like your other version of this better. The pylons look much more TOS. And in my opinion doesn't interfere too much with the original NX-Enterprise at all. I think if you make a TOS version of NX-Enterprise then you have to go all out or nothing at all. That said I believe you absolutely _NEED_ something between the nacelles. To leave it blank like that suggests you've missed something. A nice big warp field governor is _very_ TOS and it is a shame nothing is there. You could use pacific and TOS style to make it look bulky and primitive, It would look great! The turrets definitely need to be round, and id say bulk up the satellite dish. Don't make it any bigger just make it thick to suggest it sticks awkwardly into the warp field and needs reinforcement. It would also make it look old too! Also you could add some antenna sticking out of the end of that rounded rectangle where the big 07 is. Just some extra old navel add-ons to make it look pre-TOS. That said I think you did a great job and would love to see another one based on your alternate design of this ship! 😊😊😊

[@VaderTheWhite]

I still think this is what the NX should have looked like from the beginning. It perfectly fits inbetween early 21st century and classic TOS spacecraft technology and aesthetics.

[@lukejayjackson9287]

EC Henry...this ship is amazing, both versions but especially the one with the straight neck on it it makes it look more like the akira class the one in first contact, both ships well did so i think both of these ships should find their way as new continued classes of the NX 01into cannon, and eventually be picked up in star trek online or even star trek lower decks some how..and yes again, you did a fantastic job on everyone of these new ship designs you worked on, i really enjoyed seeing them...

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

Those "three lights" on the bow of the Constitution class are windows...

[@DrewLSsix]

As of the season 2 finale of Discovery this is true, but they were said by TOS production staff to be auxiliary deflectors. Though I feel like this is retroactive to tie TOS to later designs. The D and Voyager had secondary deflectors, though the D looked like windows just like in TOS.

[@o.k.productions5202]

My head canon for why the NX-01 Enterprise was so panely is because it was never painted beyond the name. They were still replacing and reinforcing hull segments less than a week before launch, why would they paint something they knew that they might need to replace a couple days later. It’s brought up a lot early on that the Enterprise launched ahead of schedule, and they didn’t go back to dry dock until early season 3 (maybe end of season 2, I don’t remember) and that was specifically to quickly optimize and update her combat systems before sending her off to war.

[@maxbrandt6]

I like it a lot! It's the NX-class perfected!

[@mr.h4646]

I love this NX ♡

[@wise_guy4230]

What I keep hearing, over and over, is "I love TOS, so I changed everything else to look like it." I like what you did with your Pacific class concept, overall, but I didn't feel that some of the changes to the NX were warranted or appropriate. Your Daedelus update seemed sensible enough.

[@colanitower]

Looks like an easier-to-build NX class, that's nice technology progress from the original NX-01 in the TOS direction

[@lukedogwalker]

Nice job! Sharp edges and gentle curves. Amen. I think your interpretation of the NX of the 'future' is entirely consistent and believable. I often thought the original design was overdone, not just with surface detail and texturing, but with all those disharmonious curves! I think you could have gone with the alternative version you did, as well - the one with the straight catamaran hulls instead of the original curved ones. Your justification is obvious - look what happened to the Enterprise. It went from 90 degree pylons to slanted, the 'neck' was completely different, the saucer changed shape - so I think straightening out the catamaran hulls would be a minor change in the grand scheme of things. It could easily be explained by saying that, just as they removed the warp field stabiliser, so they were able to tidy up and rationalise the general layout of the ship as technology and understanding improved.

[@keetonmitchell4669]

you know, that straight connection design kinda makes it start to look like an Akira, which could actually make sense in a way. Maybe the Akira hull design could have been made as a modernized and upscale version of the improved NX class (yea I am over 2 years late, only found out about this channel a couple months ago)

[@barrystrachan6340]

The centre bit at the back that you removed is the Engineering Section that houses the horizontal warp core. Without that the NX does not go....

[@mos6581com]

Not according to the deckplans, engineering is just fore of the shuttle bay. www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/enterprise-nx-01-deckplans/enterprise-nx-01-deckplans-sheet-5.jpg

[@EVAUnit4A]

Nope, EC was correct in this video! The NX-Class' Engine Room is on D Deck, just behind the Bridge, but still in front of the Shuttle Bay. www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/other/nx01-side.gif

[@Typhis19]

Love it! Just gotta make a quick comment, but I always thought the 3 Lights in the front of the constitution saucer was part of the sensor array not so much a secondary deflector.

[@Defunct231324141]

+EC Henry It kind of blends nicely with the look of the Shenzhou

[@EVAUnit4A]

EC Henry, Do you have a website where I can find a still picture-or-two of the straight pylons mock-up at 7:54 ? I really like that look, and prefer it over the downward-sloping ones from the Akiraprise!

[@jpasby779]

I like what you did. Very nice.

[@zero_gravity5861]

The angled nasselles are actually better at transferring force to the saucer portion of the craft.

[@chazhonsberger1749]

Looks awesome

[@atlantiswolf]

Looks super cool. Any reason you didn't use the NX Version that we've seen concept art from that had the secondary hull?

[@Tar-Numendil]

Having the pylons go straight back like that does break the Nx design a little bit. It looks too much like the Akira class. EDIT: It looks good, but it doesn't feel like an Nx class.

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

I don’t think so. It’s the basic shape of NX-class vessels that does it for me: the sleek, narrow look of a Sovereign/Intrepid, but the clunkier feel of the Constitution/Miranda. Don’t get me wrong, I love the TOS era ships: I just prefer late TNG ships to them as they look like they’re designed to pierce space like an arrow or bullet, unlike TOS which is designed mostly to look odd to a 21st century eye, and doesn’t look sleek or aerodynamic by design.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

I notice you used the 07 to avoid the Shuttle controversy. Clever. The Prospect is a nice name.

[@oddish2253]

I like the dish behind the bridge. It reminds me of the Millennium Falcon.

[@scottfirman]

Nice job! I think thats what the TOS NX series would have ended up like before the Reliant style came into itseslf. Could you do a Reliant preretro fit? I would love to see your version with the round nacells on it. You hit it out in the park. Yes, the NX would have been upgraded up until it was retired or changed up radically. The NX was probably moved more into a patrol status and used more to monitor the neutral zone and upgraded to photon launchers and phazers when that technology was produced. I could see one being used as an escort ship for Enterprise. I never understood why the Federation never had fleets of ships like in real life. A Galaxy class cruiser should have had at least one supply ship, one escort and a medium classed cruiser as part of their exploratory mission. Sending 430 people in one ship to places unknow seemed fool hardy. In the early days of sailing expeditions, there was never just one ship.

[@TALON-7]

Definitely, this is an improvement. It looks/feels it belongs in the TOS universe.

[@TexasCat99]

Yeah, you are right. Having the struts go straight back, looks a WHOLE LOT better and makes more sense. Might have considered them as more of NX-02? Then it wouldn't be so tied down to the Enterprise universe. Overall, your design is just beautiful... and even better when you go with your own ideas (struts).

[@paladindanse2989]

with the refits of the NX available in STO this version of the ship may as well be canon now. this feels like a mass-produced wartime version of the NX while the orginal 4 in Canon and Beta where the Pre-Production technology test beds that made sure the design was actually viable for mass production.

[@TheFanRift]

I take it the NX-Refit or Columbia class is based after this in this timeline?

[@margaretbaker2874]

I think maybe they were going for the sports car look with having the sloped nacelle pylons. Sports cars often have spoilers that are sloped in the same way.

[@spockboy]

MUCH MUCH better than the NX 01. It bridges the two timeless perfectly. Well done.

[@trustin.p9504]

very nice. love the look.👍👍👍

[@Gradient14]

Having the deflector dish in the front is necessary to keep debris and rocks and dust from damaging the ship

[@3Rayfire]

I always felt the front of the catamaran secondary hull on the Oberth *was* Navigational deflector.

[@djamondaxuzm4712]

That alternate version of the NX looks really cool actually. It's not at all accurate, but at this point I'm not totally convinced it matters based on how much stuff you've already changed with your first take on an NX refit.

[@tred6292]

Could you please do an NX-01 Pacific 201 Enterprise and just go crazy with whatever you want to do to make the ship look good in your universe. I’d love to see that. If lore is needed, you could say that after the Romulan war, there isn’t a new Enterprise yet and the original, though dramatically refitted, is still doing its part for StarFleet, even if it does usually serve in more minor roles, but StarFleet lost a lot of ships, and the ships that they have left, no matter how old, are needed to fill in the blanks with the ship ranks. I would just love to see the NX as it could be in Pacific 201 if you didn’t hold back on anything and just made it as the best possible ship you think it could be. Obviously I already love the ship that you made, especially since it still has ties to the original NX class, yet I’m also curious because you said you wanted to do more with it, and I’d like to see what that ship would look like if you did do more with it.

[@TheCokoll]

I would add 2 bigger "main" deflector dishes to the front of the longitudinal pylons, the ones you've "straighten") tottally like the redesign. I think you've got it to the TOS right.

[@xyvortex]

I always thought the swept nacelles made more room for the shuttle bay. Also, I notice you didn't go with the secondary hull that was rumored to be added if they'd gone to another season.

[@cursecat111]

Top design!!

[@hotboygoody]

Totally dig your model of the NX class. As you said, this would've been a logical refit of the class, knowing that Starfleet normally refit their ships routinely along the course of the ship's lifetime. I have seen versions of the NX class that has a similar secondary hull section that mimics the Constitution class. Have you made any similar two hull NXs?