Most LETHAL Star Trek Captains

[@Meoknet]

IN fairness, Janeway did well for a ship in those circumstances. She got a single ship through borg space with no deaths or assimilations. That's impressive.

[@loganiushere]

Meoknet I would say she had -1 deaths / assimilations, since she resuced 7 of 9 from the borg.

[@isabelleblanchet3694]

@@loganiushere There is also Icheb and the 3 other borg children they rescued. Then there is the time her, Tuvok and B'Elanna were partly assimilated for a mission, but there were "de-borgified" by the end of the episode.

[@DarrenWigfield]

Did Tuvix count as a death? Janeway should have used the caretaker to get home on day one. She should have agreed to "mate" with Q to get her crew home. Many botched opportunities.

[@oshura2506]

It was all luck, or help from someone else. Not really her. Like I'd you just remove one of the species that saved their ass the entries crew is dead

[@Blodhelm]

Only if we ignore how much of her crew died in the premiere, which was around half. Being replaced by Maquis is not the same as not losing them in the first place.

[@Mitchz95]

For the record, eighteen of Archer's casualties happened during "Azati Prime", while he was a captive of the Xindi. So really, those are T'Pol's casualties. :P

[@TheJadeFist]

Damn cold green blooded...

[@veratisu]

I'd like to add to this that it was archers choice to pilot the xindi ship himself, technically he was absent from his station at the time of the attack. This would make it his fault.

[@oddsolostrike]

a CaPtAiN iS rEsPoNsIbLe FoR tHe AcTiOnS oF hIs CrEw

[@veratisu]

@@oddsolostrike wot?

[@skinflutey]

@@veratisu it’s spelled “what”

[@beawild]

Janeway was the only captain whose ship was thrown into a quadrant 70,000 light years from Earth that had never been explored by humans. She had to stitch together a crew comprised of Starfleet officers, a Maquis crew who they had been tasked to apprehend and several aliens that they picked up along the way. They survived by their wits, sheer guts, ingenuity and bit of help from friendly aliens. All things considered, she had a tougher task than any of the other captains on this list.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Meanwhile, Kirk's Enterprise penetrated the barrier around the Milky Way and battled not one, but two would-be colonist species from Andromeda. Picard's Enterprise also paid a brief visit to the delta quadrant on invitation from Q. Voyager had one assignment: Bring up a pirate ship and return its crew to a Federation prison. As usual there were complications, but to be fair, Janeway did successfully complete her assignment. After seven years. Also, you forget about the Equinox.

[@brooklyn560]

Well Janeway had the unusual fortunate of constantly running into other races that happens to use same type of fuel, same specification of torpedoes, shipwrights that could repair fed ships without Janeway giving them classified blueprints and all for nothing since they don't have money. I say sisko had it worse. He had to deal with a well organized and experienced enemy who held an numerical and technological advantage. All sisko had was Starsfleets only warships backed by a hand full of Galaxy classes and a bunch of Miranda class coffin ships

[@Rob-hv5zq]

You apparently haven't watched DS9

[@Dimmary]

Sisko handleling a war is much better

[@alltheragegeorgepageakatheperv]

Also Janeway couldn't go back to starfleet to refresh the ship with new crew members. If she loss anyone it was double the work on the other crew members.

[@gotplague]

Janeway all the way. Even if I die I know she'll try to rewrite history to save me.

[@MrGreensweightHist]

You know she lost like half her crew in the pilot episode alone, right?

[@godzillakaijuboy]

@@MrGreensweightHist well, after that she would go through hell and back to get a redshirt back

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

Unless youre a merging of two of her crewmen then she will murder you for lols

[@cautiouslyhopeful]

She wasn't loling when she ordered the separation of Tuvix. She was very very serious.

[@dianalindeman1644]

I have to overcome a lot of difficulties for my survival and that of my family. Captain Janeway is my fictional guiding light. She did everything she could to bring the crew home.

[@StusGameReviews]

Captain Kirk seemed to know the names of all of the crew, and was saddened at each loss. In most of the other shows they just move on.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And we all know, as soon as the captain greets you on the hallway, there is almost certain death waiting.

[@mileswall6351]

The grim reaper is william shatner in a yellow shirt

[@vguyver2]

Sisko read the casualty reports daily from ALL the ships in the fleet during the Dominion war. He'd always would end up recognizing a name. Couldn't be helped when some engagement ended up with only 12 ships out of a 114 returning home.

[@daydreamer8662]

Are you kidding? In every other show Kirk would ask the crewman his/her name. Ah, a redshirt, well there's no reason for knowing your name. You're going to die in the next act. See ya, glad I didn't pick up a coffee for ya

[@Roabie]

Sisko killed or covered up a murder/assasination of, a Romulan official so that he doesn't have to receive any more casualty lists... Litterally sacreficed his soul to save the quandrant... I think he wins on that one as well...

[@Slaterybooker]

I think Janeway entire voyage should be counted as "wartime" because of the extreme situation Voyager was under.

[@ReelMeurik]

And as bad as some people think of Janeway, she "only" averaged around 6 deaths per year, compared to Kirk's average of 18. I'd rather be a red(gold) shirt under Janeway, than a redshirt under Kirk.

[@AlliWalker]

Janeway did her best with the situation she was under and it wasn't like she had much guidance or support to reply upon. She was a damn good leader, all things considered.

[@SC-mq1eh]

+Allison Walker I always like Janeway, especially when 7of9 arrived - I guess those 2 hated each other off-screen, but I thought they had good interaction on screen-and added some nice depth to Janeway

[@Mike-ul1xn]

she could of had a much lower casualty if she focused on getting home instead of poking each new thing they encountered with a proverbial stick.

[@Ingolenuru]

lol

[@FFcecil1991]

Sisko is ultimate. You have to consider that, as commander of a DS9, he had way more than just the 300-ish Starfleet officers for whom he was responsible. There's also the Bajoran officers, station civilians, and countless persons of all different species (both military and civilian) going to and from the station all day every day -- a logistical nightmare, especially for security. And his security chief, Odo, ran things in a very non-starfleet way before Sisko took over.

[@TheWinterShadow]

Don't forget he had a kid.

[@damianyeider6921]

Yes!! This is what I'm saying. He had the most lives under his responsibility on top of having to deal with the dominion war. I'd want to have him as captain

[@Blodhelm]

And let us not forget, Sisko cooked for his senior staff. Not lame ass eggs and waffles like Nu Pike, but Gumbo and other New Orleans fare, with his own hands.

[@miguelforrester8685]

If you want to win a war, Sisko is the man.

[@Jarsia]

Before I watch I'm calling Archer. Dude lost practically nobody in 4 years if you discount 1 particularly bad battle. Like the video said Archer was heavily outclassed in most engagements and severely outnumbered at Azanti Prime. Season 3 of ENT was basically year of hell from Voyager minus the magic reset button at the end. Otherwise Picard has gotta be the safest. Especially if you consider that borg encounters in Q Who and BoBW accounted for probably half those deaths.

[@ehsnils]

Picard would be pretty safe and relaxing for most of the time. Not really a lot higher risk than commuting to work. Kirk would be most interesting.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

Damn Im surprised Sisko had such a high survival rate considering how DS9 always felt the darkest tonally

[@iuryalexander9615]

Yes!!!!, this surprise me too

[@seanwhitman8353]

It was mostly the Bajorans you see dying and the various war scenes. And since Bajor was not part of the Federation at the time, the various Bajorans who die on screen don't count towards the Starfleet crew death tally

[@manofbree6739]

Deep Space 9 is actually the most lethal place. If you are Bajoran guards you will be fighting against all known army in the Galaxy. You can also get killed by Drunk Klingons. Hired by Garak and get killed by him later. Travel at the wrong time and get sniped by Jemhadar. You are constant at frontline between Dominion, Klingon and Cardassian.

[@xxxdumbwordstupidnumberxxx4844]

@@seanwhitman8353 However, the Bajoran crew worked under Sisko whilst he was in command of DS9, even if they weren't Starfleet/Federation personnel.

[@kenjisparks]

You may be confusing "dark" and "death". They don't necessarily go together. And was it truly dark, or just more complicated because you couldn't just leave a problem or people behind each week like TNG?

[@MrMTGPsycho]

I take some issues with how Janeway's was calculated. Specifically that year to year is not the same on Voyager. For example, does the 44 people include the people who died the first episode? Does the 150 include the Maquis (about 50) or the Equinox (about 30)? Look, Janeway is SUPER lethal in year one but gets steadily less lethal from then on, arguably, she has the best crew by the end of her series and could tackle the challenges of any other captain.

[@Dan-ke2om]

I'm needing to proclaim, make known, that how can anyone give on up on the Voyager crew like that for I've never ever thought about that there are still so many people here that are still so very negative everything negative opposite against everything to do with the Voyager crew and Captain Janeway!? … For 🙏🏻 Captain Janeway is still my favorite on in Star Trek Voyager yet since I've seen so much of it all in my past life freely on TV analog 1990dys! Jesus Christ 🙏🏻🤔ℹ️

[@hydewhyte4364]

I came for this comment, and I was not disappointed.

[@avocadotoast3114]

I would serve under Kirk, without a doubt. He has saved the majority of his crew from many, many attacks that would have been too much for other commanders. From what I have seen, Kirk can face some of the Federation's worst enemies without even a flinch. Kirk is sad if one of his crew members die and remembers their name, while other commanders would have simply moved on. I think Kirk is the most inspirational too. If his crew is faced with challenges, he goes on the ship wide intercom and gives a speech. And even if I didn't have very good chances of survival, i would have gotten to say I was on the Enterprise under command of James Kirk. I would have the honour of saying my colleagues included Spock, McCoy, Sulu, Chekov, Scotty and Uhura

[@wolfmobile3693]

I'd choose Kirk and made sure not to wear a red shirt anywhere near him

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Like Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott?

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@Ashton Wu And Uhura. She also wore red and lived.

[@jeffersonmetzen9866]

Just don't wear a red shirt and you'll be fine under kirk any color other than red makes you invincible. Red turns you into a laser magnet.

[@ThaFuzzwood]

@@BioGoji-zm5ph She also wore a (damn hot) red skirt. I guess that helped.

[@Azaghal1988]

I'd go with Janeway. Considering the Situation Voyager was in, her Numbers are incredibly low. No backup, low on supplies, Borg/Species 8472 and other hostiles, A mixed crew of Starfleet and Maquis and so on. Greetings

[@garywynnroberts]

Except she did have the godly power of the reset button at the end of the episode ,just like most trek tv shows DS9 being the exception .Id go with Sisco at the end of the day he would do any thing to save his people even selling his own ideals for a better out come.

[@Gentleman...Driver]

Ill stay on earth, but not in San Francisco as it is often target to alien probes and stuff.

[@drsch]

Janeway was a moron who made one bad choice after another and the writers had to use magical luck to get her out of her fuck ups.

[@StarryStarryNocturne]

@drschplatt Wtf? Did you just say that a fictional character was responsible for their own mistakes, but her resilience was entirely due to the writers? lol...

[@leonardobanazalazar3249]

And she uses cheat codes. Only 38 torpedoes? Computer, IDKFA!

[@morkofork]

You have a 0% chance of survival on Voyager if you exist because of a transporter accident involving the captains friend. #justiceforTuvix

[@CielBlanche]

never forget

[@morkofork]

I guess that means Janeway is the most lethal to her own crew, I don't think any of the others literally murdered a member of their crew.

[@JoshuaHillerup]

Mork_of_Ork2001 or you're one of the captain's babies that gets left on a planet to defend for yourself, despite the fish versions of Janeway and Paris clearly caring for you.

[@clearspira]

Except that she didn't murder a member of her crew though. She sacrificed someone who should never have existed in the first place to AVOID murdering two members of her crew. Tuvix was never on the crew roster, Tuvok and Neelix were.

[@clearspira]

Joshua Hillerup We don't know one way or the other what happened to the salamander babies. They could be sitting in a fish tank somewhere for all we know.

[@Lightingwarrior]

Sisko without question, unlike most of the other captain he could handly wartime events and keep most of his crew safe and was willing to get his hands dirty to do it

[@olddirtymongrrel]

Janeway, Sisko and Archer did a fantastic job despite all of them facing extreme adversity during their respective series.

[@dancingbatterystudio]

olddirtymongrrel does Harry Kim count? Technically he was immediately replaced but does that negate the dying in the first place?

[@andrewphillips8341]

Archer the worst captain Janeway the 3rdand I am even county faux Christopher pike and faux Kirk

[@Aidanhatesyouall]

Andrew Phillips archer never hsd the resources the other captains did, or the technology and no one truly knew what was out there as much as the later captains. Under the circumstances, he did better than any of the other captains because he had less and pulled it off

[@drsch]

Janeway was a moron who should have gotten her crew killed every episode if not for magical luck.

[@СавелийЖуков-ф1щ]

@@drsch I blame Federation's space hippy mentality on that.

[@gferraro2916]

Kirk. I don't care how risky that is. Just Kirk.

[@ThePadawan3]

You're probably thinking of another definition of "serving under" Kirk then ;).

[@erojerisiz1571]

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[@LostMercenary99]

I'd rather serve under Sisko more than any other Captain. Anyone who can deck Q is not going down. Period.

[@djolds1]

Sisko is the Chosen of the Prophets. To serve with him is to walk with destiny. Maybe you die, but you will live a life of consequence.

[@andrewgilbertson5672]

But he might risk your life on flying a disabled ship just so he can track down the Maquis target of his obsession before anyone else, and make you complicit in an act of criminal terrorism and ecological destruction in the process. (Mind you, Kirk might utterly destroy a peaceful alien civilization because he calls it stagnant, Picard might become a ponce that gives arrogant speeches about the Prime Directive while letting whole planets die because he's a coward, Janeway might lose her dang mind in the last three years of your journey, and Archer might make you die laughing when he tries to be 'tough' and 'edgy,' so there are certianly pitfalls to serving under any captain.) ;-)

[@clintonjefferson6494]

I'd serve under Sisko aka Hawk. Solid, lol

[@Meatisfood]

MrAirbender32 Picard wasn't intimidated by Sisko. Sisko was emotional cry baby in someway so was Archer. But I'd prefer Archer any day.

[@JRGomez81]

Take a good look at Picard during the DS9 premier. When he gave Sisko his orders and Sisko told him he had served on the Saratoga during the Wolf 359 incident. His demeanor went from inviting to uncomfortable, to stand off-ish. Yes he was intimidated by Sisko, but eventually he got his bearings back. However it was too late, he had lost ground in the encounter and had to resort to using his rank to secure his position. Ergo, he was intimidated.

[@yamamancha]

But, honestly, Janeway's crew was the only one subject to chance of death because of the captain's curiosity. "Oh look, a nebula?!" "Oh yes, let's beam all alien objects and life forms aboard!"

[@Dan-ke2om]

🙏🏻 Captain Janeway is my favorite on in Star Trek Voyager 🙏🏻❤️

[@Dan-ke2om]

Agreed indeed 100%! 🤔ℹ️

[@haberak3310]

I gotta say, for the circumstances Archer was in, being both pioneering space flight outside of our solar system and at points doing so during wartime, I'd say his numbers are pretty good.

[@grant9589]

Picard is the safest to serve under, no surprise there!

[@VIEW8472]

Even the Q was afraid of Picard.

[@ivanpradipta4151]

@@VIEW8472 more like amazed

[@veggiet2009]

I'd still go with Janeway

[@DuoSanguis]

Yeah, i agre,e although I could do without the 'Year of Hell'...

[@OmegaZyion]

Technically, the 'Year of Hell' never happened. Yay for time paradoxes.

[@acmenipponair]

Yes. When you survived the pilot with her, you were quite save :D especially when you were a former borg, child or bridge crew member. I mean, she lost the least number of bridge crew...

[@VIEW8472]

I also to would go with Janeway, If i wanted the most Dumb captain in the federation.

[@artisankatstudios7902]

Yep, Janeway.

[@collectorstartrek1036]

Picard's diplomacy kept us OUT of numerous wars, and was usually able to use logic to diffuse tense situations. He truly took to heart the concept of war as a LAST resort (until the movies). He also had the most comfortable ship; so for the best day-to-day life I would have to serve on the enterprise D, with a calm diplomatic captain.

[@daydreamer8662]

His ship also had the best firepower not including the Defiant. When you're armed to the teeth as well, it's easier to avoid a fight, the other side backs down

[@laurenjcoates]

I’d want to survive under Picard, for sure. I trust him the most by far

[@Tigershark_3082]

While I would want to serve under Picard, I would feel a lot more safe under Janeway or Sisko. While Picard does care about his crew, he wouldn't try to rewrite history to make sure everyone got home like Janeway would.

[@DZSabre]

I vote for Kirk. Seems to be best at getting out of a tight spot.

[@unfiltered_ramblings]

Sisko - As time goes to infinity all of the characters die (even data would die to heat death of the universe). Sisko has a worm hole to a dimension where time does not exist so you can live forever. Sisko also has some contact with Q and that also adds a possible way to avoid slow death if you gain enough favor.

[@JadieJamz]

Just the thought of using Q to stay alive makes my skin crawl lol

[@marscaleb]

I was honestly looking for this data for the last couple months. It was really annoying to dig up because too many people were counting crewmembers who came back alive. Thank you for this video! That being said, from the title I thought this was going to be about which captain killed the most people, (as in enemy forces,) despite being on a mission of peace and exploration. That would be an interesting follow-up video.

[@xknoewx]

This is great content! Thank you for the great video! I would want to serve under Sisko

[@danielebowman]

II'd love to see more analysis. The Captains were under massively differing circumstances and technologies. It seems to be Voyager, out on it's own so far away from the Federation ha the most dangerous situation, making Janeways record more impressive. Kirk also appeared to live in a more hostile era then Picard and Archer never traveled close to the distances the others did from earth.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Me too, there's something about a captain that's willing to murder to protect his team that really makes you know this guy is the right man for the quadrant.

[@HKGSteven]

Archer is my captian, plus you have high of becoming a captian yourself, under his command due to you will more experiences then any other crew out there

[@bigtony8999]

this shows how much each showed relied on action to carry the show versus being entertaining without constant battles etc

[@crgkevin6542]

My first choice would be Picard, second Kirk. Picard has a good survival rate, and the Enterprise D has some great creature comforts. Not to mention the satisfaction of serving on the flagship. Dr. Crusher also seems like the doctor with the best bedside manner as well, which is a bonus. Meanwhile, Kirk's 5 year mission not only would be making history that's remembered for at least a century, but who wouldn't want to work on the same ship as Scotty?!

[@DuoSanguis]

Well its takes awhile but The Doctor gets a pretty good bedside manner too, just have to get over the poor intial design.

[@vonshroom2068]

Doesn't help when he needs to defend your life. And then your captain still orders you to die to respawn 2 former lost crewmembers. Poor Tuvix, he could have been the breakout character Neelix was supposed to be instead they brought back star treks Yar Yar Binks...

[@rbbecker73]

Scotty was the toughest character in Star Trek. He wore a red shirt on Kirk's Enterprise for 3 full years and survived!

[@Leroyteam]

Space travel is fun! *dies in the first episode*

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Johnny boy, Johnny boy! We're bound for stormy weather! Johnny boy, Johnny boy, better wish your lads farewell. Somewhere out, far away, we're sailing on together. Oh Johnny my, we are leaving tonight. Johnny say good-bye.

[@tachyontee3877]

Fun=dangerous

[@robinhyperlord9053]

@@davidwuhrer6704 What?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

It's a song.

[@GhostNameless]

What about Ed Mercer from Star Trek: Orville? 1 death per season.

[@Haloangel204]

Nameless Ghost Ed is a great Captain actually.

[@medinafazlic7012]

@@Haloangel204 Agree

[@user02573]

Who???

[@theimmortalsuperbeing549]

Picard ( Because he really cares about his crew and is very noble and honourable ). And Jane Way ( Because she is rebellious dose anything for her crew and is an outlaw which is exciting ).

[@sasamichan]

some questions I have, maybe an other video, How many deaths were a result of Captain's orders? did this include off screen deaths like Wesley Crusher's father? how many people were assimilated? how many were not killed but just really badly wounded? or sick? how many were killed when some one else was in charge of the bridge? how many people who were not the crew died as a result pf the captain's actions - how many enemies did they kill? how many civilians died on missions? other questions, what was the best star trek pet? what captain had the best hobby? how would each captain have solved a problem different if they all switched crews and time lines? like could Picard have handled the threats of Kirk's day with Kirk's crew? how would Kirk have handled the Ferengie and Borg? Would Archer have gotten Voyager home from the Delta Quadrant any better? Could Janeway command a space station? Could Sisko be the 1st ever star ship captain?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I'd say count everybody whos death is confirmed on screen. Be it by direct gruesome visuals, incoming damage reports, or lists of losses on computer screens. I remember a particular scene in Voyager where Janeway goes through all the lost personnel during the mission up to that point.

[@kingpin6989]

I figured Captain Janeway would be high because a lot of her crew dies in the pilot when the Caretaker pulls them in to the Delta Quadrant.

[@NerdilyDone]

The trouble with this analysis is that it doesn't take into account external factors. Wars, political tension, sickness...deaths come from a lot of things, not just a captain. I still like the video, because this is interesting for its own sake.

[@JoshuaHillerup]

Which you would want to serve under also includes the rest of the crew, the type of ship, and the nature of the mission. Taking that into account the Enterprise D seems the best, but that's rating it like you would rate a cruise ship, and really at that point just living on Earth and taking one of the very nice but boring ships for vacations to places like Risa would really be your best bet. In terms of learning new stuff, that would be either Voyager or the NX Enterprise.

[@Cooltea1983]

I would want to be on Voyager, more freedom to do your own thing...

[@greymajickjedi]

+Cool TA Why?

[@Cooltea1983]

I am not scared to serve under a woman Captain...

[@Robloxman01]

That's a... weird response to that question. There's plenty of reasons to not want to serve under Janeway besides "hur dur she's a woman". I wouldn't want to serve on Voyager for two reasons. A: Realistically their situation would be much more akin to the Equinox than the series portrayed. Voyager really got a lot of plot armor with how battle damage and attrition never seemed to effect the ship for more than a couple of episodes. B: There are a lot of episodes that make me question Janeway's mental fitness to serve as a commander. It gets handwaved a lot, and of course it rarely gets addressed outside of the episode it shows up in, but there are plenty of episodes that portray her as clearly unstable and maybe even psychopathic. The Equinox episode for example, or the multiple episodes where she threatens her command staff when they try to suggest that she take time to relax after months of constant stress, or that maybe she shouldn't continue with her current plan because it breaks regulation or basic morality like when she helps the Borg genocide an entire species.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

My first order in her place would be to evacuate half the ship and dimm the lights. That would serve quite an amount of energy. And as second change I would try to get into a dialogue with the part that came from the Marquis. Sure Chakotay knows both sides, and he did a great job as first officer, but maybe bending Starfleet rules a bit would've helped alot. After all the initial mission was to find and capture the marquis. She basically did that in the first episode. After that it is al about getting home. There are neither time nor resources to help every little planet on the way. Archer did a better job at that even though he made quite the noise in the galaxy.

[@hawk7825]

Janeway any day... plus you would see 7of 9 everywhere.🤗

[@greymajickjedi]

Resisting her space spandexed boobage is futile.

[@rossanderson1989]

I agree! Voyager is the best one! Janeway!

[@raw6668]

Wait, wouldn't the destruction of ships under Siscko command also count as well? For he did command Starfleet contingent during the Battle for DS9 and several Chictonka battles. And thousands died in those battles with ships being destroyed with all hands. Or are were just going for those directly under his command in hero ships/stations? Also, shouldn't be noted the majority of Janeways death happen when they were brought into the Delta Qudrent so wouldn't it be different going through the years. Also, I believe in the unalter timeline, it was 23 years she got the crew home, so just made it.

[@TheVergile]

that would be difficult since then we would need to decide whether Picardy losses as acting fleet captain against the borg do count. also that one time he nearly destroyed the whole universe. good times. Janeway also had some fleet battles where she basically acted as commander.

[@raw6668]

He said no movies, just the series. Also with history reset during the year of hell, she did not lose any ships under her command. Though I think even if we count the movies, Picard took command only once in a major fleet battle and lost only three ships, I think. So Siscko kill count would be higher on a overall level, but Picard did lose a lot people in the movies on his ship.

[@Ertwin123]

Picard was in command of the Borg Cube that ripped through the fleet at Wolf 359, so if you're counting that, Picard would be the most lethal.

[@TheVergile]

and later during the battle of Sector 001 he is in command of the federation fleet and rips through the Borg just to mix things up.

[@darkjill2007]

Siscos death count if you count the battles is way higher than anyone else. probably higher than borg picard.

[@johnnysaunders]

The circumstances with Janeway are different. She was alone in uncharted space. She did not have any allies to rush to her rescue. She did what she could to survive.. that meant integrating a rebel crew (the maqui) in with her own. Most importantly, she was Star Fleet to the core, playing by the rule, never compromising her integrity to take short cuts to get home faster. Like I said, the circumstances were different, and for all the Voyager "haters" out there, I don't think she gets the credit she deserves. But I do appreciate the compilation of data to produce this video. I always wondered about the death numbers in the TV cannon. Well done.

[@superman0035]

Picard, it's always Picard. He is the most thoughtful, intelligent, and all around compassionate. He also breaks the prime directive the least (I think. maybe that should be your next episode.).

[@Idazmi7]

Yes, TNG also showed that he is a rebellious old coot who is willing to break protocol for the dumbest reasons imaginable. In fact, here's a breakdown of what I saw, episode by episode: Picard is seriously willing to let non-Federation aliens murder one of his officers just because they were upset that he kicked over a potted plant. ("Justice", S1, E8) Picard lets his officers violate the Prime Directive by bringing a primitive life form aboard the Enterprise, unwittingly causing a religion to form around himself. When the situation predictably deteriorates, he ignores the counsel of the presiding anthropologist and violates the Prime Directive further by *_bringing another one aboard_* and openly demonstrating the Federation's technological superiority to bronze-age primitives. ("Who Watches The Watchers", S3, E4) Picard let Cardassia break it's treaty with the Federation and build illegal military bases in the Cuellar system, thus endangering millions by opening up the possibility of another Setlik III massacre. ("The Wounded", S4 E12) Picard _directly and intentionally violated the Prime Directive_ by willfully inserting one of his must trusted officers into a non-Federation court as a judge, and himself into the same court as a plaintiff, in an arbitration case that did not involve a Federation citizen or planet. ("Devil's Due" S4, E13) Picard is willing to sacrifice the lives of _thousands_ of Federation citizens in order to open a diplomatic dialogue with a monsterous creature that eats the populations of entire planets, placing the needs of the few _above_ the needs of the many. ("Silicon Avatar", S5 EP4) Picard turns a blind eye while his First Officer willfully violates the Prime Directive by attempting to interfere with a non-Federation planet's legal decision regarding one of their own citizens, and further attempts to stage a jailbreak for the accused. ("The Outcast", S5, E17) Picard encounters "Hugh" - a human who was kidnapped as a child by the Borg and 'assimilated' as one of their enslaved drones. After freeing him from the Borg, Picard _sends him back to his kidnappers_ and refuses to deploy a weapon that would destroy the Borg species - an action that later on cost thousands of Federation lives and caused several entire species to go extinct. ("I, Borg", S5, E23) Picard consistently runs his ship at far below battle readiness, and his First Officer is a disrespectful and impetuous fool with almost no discipline. ("Chain of Command" S6, E10 and 11) Picard is reprimanded by an Admiral for refusing to deploy the anti-Borg weapon before, and is given *direct order* to destroy the Borg the next time he encounters them. He just ignores the order entirely. ("Descent", S6, E26 and S7, E1) Picard disobeyed direct orders from a superior and compromised Federation security by _deliberately_ giving classified intelligence to active belligerents. ("The Pegasus", S7 E12) This is just what came to mind: I'm certain I could find more examples if I cared. In TOS, this man would have faced a Court Martial and Dishonorably Discharged. It's enough to make a man want to jump into an active plasma conduit.

[@oshura2506]

Well he's certainly not the most intelligent or even the second most but yeah he's compassionate I guess.

[@DrussTheFourth]

Rather horribly bias. Firstly because of ships. Two of the three versions of the Enterprise were flagships and arguably the best ships in the quadrant for their time. DS9 is a station and Defiant a warship. Even Archer’s Enterprise, while not as large a fish proportional to its pond, was a decent cruiser doing the job it was created to do. Voyager on the other hand was a glorified scout designed for short missions, not the decade long journey it was stuck with. Secondly because the majority of the Voyager deaths were in the first episode. A single data spike followed by almost a decade of minimal losses. Why does Archer get two calculations but Janeway doesn’t?

[@jesusmora9379]

archers ship did not have shields and went to abnormal space in a suicide mission to stop the more advanced xindi who where being controlled by interdimensional beings. most of the loses happened in a single battle and during an attack by pirates.

[@enternamehere7639]

All three Enterprises count as flagships. All three for Starfleet, two for the Federation, one for Earth.

[@benjamingood8511]

jesus mora And Janeway literally fought the Borg. Xindi vs. Borg is no fight at all. The Borg are a far more dangerous enemy than the Xindi and the Entrprise at least had the advantage of some allies. Janeway does her job exceptionally well.

[@jesusmora9379]

ben good archer fought the borg too. the enterprise D and voyager are much more advanced ships, and they have shields. picard lost 70 crewmembers to the borg because he overestimated them. janeway went to a nebula for coffe. sisko won the dominion war via deus ex machina. archer had a timetraveler who helped him, but he was supposed to defeat the xindi and unite the federation anyways, it was the xindi who altered the timeline forcing the timecop to get involved. archer did the best he could, while the other captains acted stupidly.

[@michaelcividanes2930]

It was hardly 'a single data spike followed by almost a decade of minimal losses'.

[@jamescassidy5574]

The way you extrapolate the percentages for multiple years is incorrect. You simple assume that the same number of people die each year based on the original crew size. If you really wanted to use the percentages you presented then you raise the percentage to the power of the years for the chance of survival. Take the case of Voyager with a 96% chance of survival. The chance someone survives 5 years is 0.96^5=0.815 or 81.5% not the intuitive answer of 20%. Using this, some of the crew will survive the 75 years, 4.68% to be exact

[@ECHenry]

Thanks for your input!

[@hydewhyte4364]

Well, with the exception of Voyager, you can expect dead crew to be replaced when you make port.

[@spectrumthevideogame7167]

Great video! Janeway or Archer for me! I'd love to see a video comparing leadership capabilities. For example, Archer in some cases chose Renegade decisions like leaving another civilian ship adrift for more than a year to use their fuel to pursue the Xindi weapon trying to destroy Earth. I wonder how other captains would have faired?

[@WilfredIvanhoe]

Archer was also a pioneer explorer, like Columbus, Cook, or Magalhaes. Casualties to were to be expected; only 18 of Magalhaes' (or Magellan's) crew survived back home alive, while Magalhaes himself (as well as Cook) got killed in battle.

[@FireRevanShadow]

from memory Alpha about ds9 "Crew: 300 to 2,000 (Bajoran and Starfleet) (Capacity: 7,000)"

[@greymajickjedi]

Shut up and marry me! Both of you!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Just the actual crew? Does the civilians count? And of the 1000 people under picard were lot's of families and civilians like bartenders, barbers, etc.

[@vguyver2]

The author of the video used the bare minimum for the stats since it's the only reliable number since the crew size likely fluctuated between seasons due to war. The video doesn't mention how many people were on the DS9 station as far as civilians go either. We know that it's several thousand.

[@kamenwaticlients]

Still Sisko all the way. He did a hell of a job especially considering the war.

[@chuckjones6055]

kamenwaticlients I think it's somewhat safer on a space station than a ship.

[@Doncroft1]

Chuck Jones You say that but forget the station guarded the Bejoran wormhole, for a time the most hotly contested point in space in the Alpha quadrant.

[@PompousPicard1]

Doncroft1, right, and DS9 was a pretty remote location. That, plus the fact that the station was pretty underpowered until they got the Defiant.

[@chrisp187]

I don't consider someone who allowed their brain to be warped by a demonstrably false religion great.

[@Doncroft1]

Chris P Yeah the Prophets aren't real and don't know the future nor care about Bejor, preach it!:P

[@dennismason3740]

I'm on Yoyager. Seven tells me "you have a 4% chance of dying if you spend a year on this vessel" - "and will you be with the crew for that year?" - "Obviously there is a ninety-six percent chance of myself surviving the year as part of Voyager's crew and you should seek to expand your math skills" - "I'm in".

[@Dan-ke2om]

🙏🏻 Captain Janeway is my favorite on in Star Trek Voyager ❤️🙏🏻 Agreed indeed 100% all the way! 😘

[@Dan-ke2om]

Me to 🥺 me too indeed!

[@dennismason3740]

@@Dan-ke2om - when she rammed the timeship (Seventies dad) and hissed, "time's up!" I was hers for life.

[@francoislameth6749]

I'm going with captain Archer . Good video thanks!!

[@devastator5042]

This doesn't really count off screen deaths which would balloon the numbers esspecially for DS9 and Voy

[@CosmicFearUkulele]

Still wanna serve Archer the most

[@EvilTwin559]

I'd defanetly want to serve under Picard. Bigger quartes, cool holodeck and the coolest crew in Starfeet.

[@doctor_whoey3857]

I'd go with Archer for best captain, his ship was tasked with saving the whole Earth, and then they later discovered they were also saving many other planets. Entire planets. If you are trying to save entire planets I think it's acceptable to lose 1/3 of your small crew. They were lucky to not lose everyone. Except it wasn't luck, it was Captain Archer. He reacted to everything reasonably and realistically, except that one time he reverse imprinted on a bunch of xindi mantis babies.

[@scifiX9]

Well if archer had better ship the numbers wouldn't be so high

[@ReelMeurik]

Exactly this. His ship had no shields, no tractor beams, limited armaments, and at the start.. a naivete of just how dangerous space travel can be. Just because Earth went all kumbaya and become friendly with it's planetary neighbors, doesn't mean the rest of the galaxy were as... neighborly.

[@mcentepede]

In real life, no way I'm going into deep space battle with no shields, no universal translator, no tracktor beams, limited speed, no photon torpedoes, and a Captain with limited skills in dealing with aliens. Archer sucks. Also, I noted that nobody wants to mention that Archer is the only Captain on this list to lose their Number 1 first officer. Even Lorca and Philippa Georgiou didn't lose their main officers. Even with his M.A.C.O. soldiers, Archer was helped by Daniels to even stand a chance

[@teetehi]

mcentepede but captain janeway lost her number 1 in the first episode

[@mcentepede]

Doesn't really count....first episode didn't establish the characters yet. Commander Chakotay is the first officer and he lasted all 7 seasons

[@mcentepede]

You would think force shields should be a mandatory thing going into deep space. And better firepower could compensate for the slow speed. Even Tony Stark has shields!

[@Shark7532]

I'd want to serve under Janeway, definitely. Sure I might die, but she'll make sure there's coffee available at all times.

[@BrettG17]

That clip of Data was a GENIUS editing move!

[@GeeZeRFroG]

Give me Picard any day.

[@Ragitsu]

Damn straight. Picard motivates. Sisko berates. Archer hesitates. Janeway, well...

[@greymajickjedi]

+Ragitsu Menstruates?

[@greymajickjedi]

That was the Stewie Griffin philosophy.

[@Ragitsu]

"Devastates", perhaps. As in, she blows up half the aliens in the Delta Quadrant.

[@UkrainianPaulie]

Picard was a tea sipping pussy.

[@Marqan]

Janeway's situation was much worse than any other captain's. No resupply, no vacation, no drydock repairs/maintenance. After that I'd say Archer had a tough time in the first year, because they couldn't really prepare for what was coming, as you also mentioned. Then very close to Archer comes Sisko, since DS9 was on the frontline during wartime/conflict, AND they had a huge amount of civilians passing through the station, which significantly increases the risk, especially on security personnel. Picard and Kirk have no such excuses as far as I can remember. So considering their situations and your calculations as well, I'd say Sisko did best by far, then peacetime-Archer and Janeway, Picard, wartime-Archer, and Kirk as worst. It's a good video though!

[@ianmccown]

0:22 the moment i saw those listed my mind went to kirk of course. You know, the red shirts 😂

[@gaslone79]

I don't know about your numbers, the klingons and dominion attacked the station at least once each I think. Season 4 episode 22: 18 dead, 31 missing and over a hundred wounded according to Odo, after rouge Jem Hadar raid the station for supplies. They did not give numbers for the Season 4 episode 1&2 “The way of the warrior” but I doubt the numbers of dead and wounded where less after a major station take over attempt by the klingons. Your numbers only work if you only count starfleet dead (even then I have my doubts) but it seems wrong to me not to count Bajorin militia and civilians living and working in the station he is in charge of. I do not want to go through every episode to check your numbers but just from this small sample it makes me doubt how accurate you are.

[@histguy101]

gaslone79 That's a good point. The numbers for Picard could easily include civilians. They should count for Sisko also.

[@brooklyn560]

The Sisko no doubt

[@SirGalahadCtny]

I'm not super Star Trek fan, but I have to say, that Archer seems to me care most of his crew, not only because they are his crew, but because they are people (or vulcan, right) While other captains seems to maintain whole captain/crew routine, where they do care, but because it's their job. Also it's worth to mention, that Janeway widened her interest as her crew slowly transformed into her family. But boy, I would definitely NOT wanted to serve under Kirk or Sisko.

[@robertphillips6296]

At what point would Captain Janeway and crew stopped their journey due to crew loss? They were only able get 6 additional crew/passengers aboard with 2 leaving and 1 dying. The death toll and lack of replacements would force them at one point to stop and perhaps settle down or start having more children.

[@Dan-ke2om]

🙏🏻 Captain Janeway is my favorite on in Star Trek Voyager 🙏🏻❤️🤔ℹ️

[@theeunknown2620]

When you titled the video " Most Lethal Captain " I thought it was about who has the most enemy kills.

[@jimmyd102000]

Sisko by a long shot.

[@hydewhyte4364]

@@jimmyd102000 unless you're giving Picard Wolf 359

[@nathanielleon4163]

I'd want to serve under Picard. In part because it means that I would be serving under the Federation's best and brightest, in theory at least. Plus, space archaeology!

[@greynekar9907]

Sisko is by far my favorite captain, and by the statistics here as well- I would 100% choose to serve at DS9.

[@julia-6195]

Sisko because he was a badass. And besides, life on a space station at least has more perks than life on a space ship. You're not nose to nose with your crewmates all the time.

[@groam6666]

Picard was the best... loved the moral story line and conundrums. Grew up watching that as a kid and can say that I took some lessons in life from that show.

[@clearspira]

Is anyone else out there an SFDebris fan? Because the choice comes down to Johnathan ''Duchess'' Archer and Kathryn ''Marlboro'' Janeway. Whilst both of them have committed acts both horrific and negligent, Janeway at least was clearly suffering from tremendous guilt as the series wore on, whereas Archer decided in ''Night in Sickbay'' to risk stranding his entire crew in deep space because he was too prideful to apologise to an alien race who had a spare part they needed. And why did he need to apologise? Because he had let his dog take a piss on a sacred monument. No captain comes close to the amount of innocent lives that Duchess has risked stamping out.

[@histguy101]

clearspira Archer had the safest ship. Janeway, the second safest.

[@ameier5570]

YOU SHOULD EAT HARRY :P

[@greymajickjedi]

"an SFDebris fan"?

[@marsm9]

lol

[@gr8oone007]

Yeah archer was crazy

[@Lilitha11]

If you discount the crazy suicide mission and war time deaths from Archer, the numbers seem fairly comparable between them all.

[@mcentepede]

This one's a no-brainer....You have the best chance serving with Sisko. He survived Locutus/Borg Battle, many other battles, with hostile alien beings, knocked down Q with one punch. He means business. Archer sucks, no weapons, no universal translator, no tracktor beam, warp 3 max. He lost many crewman and his number 1 guy, so he the worst. Janeway has the fastest ship and arguably the best Pilot in Lt. Paris. She owns the Borg and made one her pet. She taught her Borg pet to roll over and do all kinds of tricks too. She beats Species 8471 and basically can reset time any time she wants. Picard lost alot of people considering he has the best Galaxy class ship. But he's got the best speeches and probably the most intelligent. Kirk is great as long as you don't wear a red uniform while serving with him.

[@3haljordan]

Kirk and the Federation are at War with the Klingons and exploring some unknown hostile territory.

[@dogmansun]

Content like this is why I love KZbin

[@norrislaw1983]

Can we get a comparisons of chances of surviving an away mission? Slot of Archers and Jainways deaths were in ship to ship battle.

[@calebrice8400]

Janeway lost half her crew in the first episode how bout da?

[@CeticWales]

Star Trek: The Animated Series are meant to be canonical for Kirk I think, how would that tilt the data?

[@sxrambaran7879]

I'd serve under Picard because I feel he would have exhausted all possibilities before engaging in battle. Thus during battle I'd want to make sure I get things done right.

[@msinvincible2000]

Picard was the captain of a cruise ship. He was the one who had the easiest time, he rarely fought. Janeway had the toughest mission

[@Archy11102]

I'd say serving under Janeway or Picard would be a good option. Both of the captains are very capable for either diplomacy or war if needs be. Moreover, crew of the Voyager and Picard's Enterprise is very capable. But if it comes to choosing only one, then I'd pick Janeway. Beating the Borg and species 8472 showed that lady has what it takes to win.

[@lordeggo]

If you could find a way to give numerical values based on Deaths and corresponding accidents and / or damage sustained it might show the Captain's ability to avoid potential deaths rather than being held solely by a ratio of deaths vs capacity. An example would be if the entire ship were destroyed yet majority of the crew survived. Of course if you're a Redshirt you don't really care about anything but that % within the crew count but it's not really saying much for the Captain.

[@SuperMartinCC]

Janeway. Because she’s more badass when she needs to be, so in conflict with enemies, Janeway always finds a way out, and wins (Just like the Doctor from Doctor Who) always finding a way to win

[@ryanstrom4484]

Archer I don't care how you make the data look I love his sense of peace and negotiating. I mean without him the federation may have never been made or made like it was supposed to.

[@garyclouse7234]

Well now I have watched! I choose to be a conscientious objector! I don't want to set foot on ANY star ship! I will go raise potatoes in Idaho! No correct that... I've actually been to Idaho! Cold as the North Pole in winter! I will be a park supervisor in Florida! You better have a free permit to play at this park or I will tell my boss when you are done playing! Yeah! That's my future! Threaten people who don't understand what I am saying anyway with consequences so trivial that no body would care anyway! Ah! Yes! I'm gonna be a hero!

[@greymajickjedi]

Lursa and Bet'or left you stranded in an abandoned mine, Didn't they?

[@Kiyosuki]

Damn I could have sworn Sisko's would be higher, but that's actually damn remarkable an achievement for a Captain during a full blown wartime out in the outer reaches of the Quadrant. Archer even during Wartime can be forgiven to a point because like said, he had an extremely primitive ship to work with. They didn't even have deflector shields. And even if they had a more advanced ship, some of the crap Archer and the NX crew had to put up with was way out of their depth and control, so I agree it's actually remarkable that he managed to get even that much of his crew home.

[@robinsmith3469]

I would have wanted to serve under first Pickard, Kirk and Archer tie, then Janeway, Sisco. I need to watch Deep Space Nine. Have only watched it a few of times. Time to get out the popcorn and power watch the series!! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TOS, Kirk was a dedicated, caring, fearless captain, strong and stubborn when he felt he was right. He believed in the prime directive, but wasn't afraid to do what was right even when he went against it, when the situation called for it. He loved and protected his ship and crew, and he loved his officers, brothers to him. His officers were not afraid to go to him and say he was wrong and why. He would contemplate it, choosing to take their advice or not, but his brothers would always eventually bring him back around, and he'd do the same for them. I felt TOS was very down to earth. It got to the core of our inner conflicts, our passions, our fears. It showed how life is a struggle and we need those who will stand beside us, and need to believe in the good, even when it's difficult. To be open minded enough to realize that things may not be as they appear to be, to look past the obvious to the inner person or bigger picture. Look outside the box, so to say. He was like the strong, silent, passionate man who was loyal to his cause and his people he loved. That made him hot!! Lol. LOVE The Next Generation, Picard was very open-door policy, open to ideas and impute from his officers. He definitely, also, like Kirk, would put his life on the line to protect the crew and his ship. I thought his character was very interesting with his love of ancient history and his fear of children. He was a very kindhearted soul with his "family" crew, and showed it when it was appropriate. But he also, by being this way, demanded, gently, a deep respect for him as their captain. And he was strick enough to instill that respect in his crew for him effortlessly. He also was like a father figure to Wesley, which was touching. He also wasn't against thinking outside the box in any situation, and had a deep respect for all life. He was sophisticated and a tender but authoritive figure earning the respect he received. LOVE Enterprise, Archer had such a deep love for his crew and ship, and, to me, kinda ran it like a good father runs his household. He was respectful, caring, motivating, encouraging, and just tried to keep everybody united with the thought that if they did the right thing things would work out. They were the beginning crew, and they needed that atmosphere to get by. He had to be strick with the conflicts between the crew sometimes. But the crew earned a deep respect for him, and they learned to compromise and work together. You knew Archer had your back. I think the show would have run much longer if the writing wouldn't have taken such weird twists sometimes. I loved and hated the last show. I knew that he loved T-Pol, and I know for him and her to get together the engineer would have to die, but I hated him dying like that. I also HATE how they made the last show into a hologram program. I would have loved to have seen more of the speech at the end with Archer introducing The Federation of Planets, some of the prime directive would have been great. I think the characters of the show deserved more instead of making it about Ryker and his problem. That just ruined what was an already bitter sweet end to a wonderful show. I felt more connected with this show because of it's beginnings. The maiden voyage, their having to prove themselves, the personal growths, the struggles, and the losses. I felt it's beginning in space was so important for the Star Trek universe. It made it personal and more real. Granted, some of the crazy things they encountered was way out there. But there was a very personal attack on us as humans when Earth was attacked. It was such a personal thing when Trip's sister was killed. How it showed the scope of destruction really gave me the deep personal heartfelt need for justice, and they really incorporated that into the mission. I think that was the strongest personal assault in Star Trek against humanity in a series. It was soul searching on how we would feel. I think of Archer like the father or big brother who had your back and loved you even if he didn't say so, yet you knew it, and you knew what he instructed was for your own good, even though you sometimes felt conflicted about it. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE those three series the best. I think they sum up the human spirit so well. I know I haven't given Voyager enough of a chance yet. I like the Dr, he's really cool. And Deep Space Nine never caught my attention much. Don't like the Feringy, I think the big earred guys are called. They're kinda whiny. Janeway is kinda weird too. I don't care for her character much. I haven't watched all of her shows either. Need to power watch it too and finish them.

[@blurryface5287]

Archer

[@theolynch8155]

I wonder what JJverse Kirk's stats are haha

[@brooklyn560]

well Kirk said that no one had died under his command until section 31 nearly turned them to space dust then more in beyond

[@WildFireGaming627]

yeah but that's bullshit, look at the first movie. still technically his command.

[@ansambel3170]

well that why they dont count movies, becuase if hollywood decides to make a full movie, they start killing ppl, a lot of them

[@brooklyn560]

Warforce Productions it's been a while since I watched the movie but didn't he take command at the very end?

[@WildFireGaming627]

brooklyn560 yeah but people still died

[@AzraelThanatos]

With Janeway, there are also the massive casualties in the first episode during the transit to the Delta Quadrant...

[@thod8820]

Lorka is a pretty interesting character especially after the thing in the last episode. A video on him would be appriceated.

[@djolds1]

Would rather serve under Sisko.

[@roseblight9892]

Having watched the original series in syndication in the early 70's, has to be Captain Kirk.

[@청솔향-g9u]

If I thought my self as a risk-taker I'll definitely go with the Voyager. Man, what a chance.

[@MrRickkramer]

You say they wouldn’t have made it home. What about Neelix, Seven of Nine, Icheb, births of two babies? Voyager supplemented its crew and let’s not forget the doctor who could have got voyager home on his own with his emergency command protocols.

[@FizzleFX]

Janeway had WARTIME ALL THE TIME. No nice federation nearby... So that's remarkable! And she dealt with Borg AND 8472... (and Neelix cooking)

[@Dan-ke2om]

🙏🏻 Captain Janeway is my favorite on in Star Trek Voyager! 🙏🏻 Agreed 100%! 🙏🏻

[@johnwotek3816]

Captain Mercer.

[@TheKeeperoftheCreed]

For me it doesn't really seem to matter who i serve under i still carry the chance of dying under their command in one way or another. The more interesting question(s) would be why and/or how would you serve under them?

[@thod8820]

I love how on enterprise you'd hear about side characters or have them pop up every once in a while getting used to the names being said then they'd die and even though you didn't really know them it felt bad.

[@inthenow8249]

If you're going to project Voyager's crew survival for the entire 75 year trip home, you have to calculate in the fact that It would very soon be a multi-generational ship. Children would be born, raised, and trained to work on the ship. So regardless of your projection that the whole crew would be dead in 24 years ( 5:20 ), the actual crew complement would probably have increased in that time. This would make Janeway the only captain to be the opposite of lethal. What would you call that? Restorative? Fecund? Just Plain Awesome?

[@JL0ndon]

The thing about janeway is that with actual upgrades and if they had not found the transwarp network we know exactly how deadly the end of the show would have gone so i feel like in terms of tallying things that would actually be a fair estimate because it’s path they would have gone down with no time travel intervention.