Echo 2511T Muffler Mod - Custom Black Panther Chainsaw

[@timberandtools]

Simple mods make a huge difference on these saws!! I just drilled a hole and has been working great on several of my 2511s… I like it in all black.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Definitely - they just smother themselves, more air, bit more gas, much more torque!

[@timberandtools]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan my only top handle saws we run. Then 261 lol

[@jakeharris4465]

I worked my up to a just slightly bigger than 1/2 inch hole,take the muffler of though when you do it as the shavings will end up in motor

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Definitely once you’re inside… will do an updated vid sometime soon :)

[@baileystrohmayer2589]

There is a straight pipe exhaust tube for the 2511t on Egan Performance Saws website.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

I know there's a guy in the UK who makes them too, dan at @bellebrookearb on insta, bit rich for my wallet tho lol

[@boomupengineering]

The Egan pipe is OK unless you are in a weird position with the exhaust pointed at your head. Then it is loud enough to actually hurt your ears with the exhaust pulses. Hearing protection necessary.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

@@boomupengineering ahahah definitely lol Maybe the next one - this ones had a hard little life, ill be happy if she just keeps cutting to be honest :P

[@JamesOneill-x5i]

Do you need to tune the saw after mod?

[@Ibrisar]

Sir, for the Bumber Spike is necessary to do thread first insert the screws? Or the original screws are self-tapping? Thanks for help and wonderful personalized 2511. Sorry for my English 🪵🪚

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate, yes they’re self tapping, but the holes are very tight! I screwed them in all the way to establish a thread, took them out and then put the spikes on & put the bolts back :) Hope that helps! …& thank you! Enjoy using yours! 🙏

[@Ibrisar]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan Thank you very much 👍🤟🪓

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Good luck!

[@matthewvelderman900]

You have any videos on painting the saw?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Yes mate 🤙 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJzGYYWZrdqhg80

[@darrengarlough5121]

You gave me good ideas. But tell me where is the spark plug at?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

its at the back fully enclosed behind a little flap under the air filter door :)

[@darrengarlough5121]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan found it thanks

[@dqmc07]

Sweet set up, Thank you for sharing.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Cheers man no worries! :)

[@rikkilee9409]

so the metal shavings never get a neg. pressure and get sucked into engine?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Not if you’ve cleaned them out 👌

[@jonnyhtcdesire]

Hi. If I'm upgrading the dogs why can't I use the original screws. If I put washers around them would that work?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate the original screws should work 👍

[@giuseppesantucci4339]

Salve video bellissimo che tappi hai montato? E dove posso comprarli??? Grazie mille

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey there mate, they're husky 525 caps, but the fit isn't perfect; if you over tighten them even a little bit you need to re-seat the rubber seal or it'll leak very slightly

[@mirdallke2]

po co zmieniac ten piekny pomaranczowy kolor???

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

😂😂

[@הראלרמז]

I have a cs2511t saw and I want an exhaust like you did with two pipes Where can I buy such an exhaust?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate there aren’t any modded mufflers available yet - but grab a dremel & give it a go! :)

[@הראלרמז]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan

[@outdoors-fun]

I got Husq caps for my 4910. The fuel cap fit fine, but the cap was to big for the oil side. Are these caps smaller and would they replace the oil cap on a bigger Echo? If so, you got a link to them ?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate yes they are, husky do a ‘small’ and ‘large’ flip top cap - I assume you want the small one for your oil, though am not 100% sure… But for a few quid might be worth a shot! Here’s a link to the small ones I used on this project: skylandequipment.com/products/husqvarna-fuel-and-oil-flip-tank-cap-small-spare-parts

[@outdoors-fun]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan Picked one up. It did fit the oil tank on my 4910 but there was a little play while tightening down. It did leak around the cap a little overnight as well. Im going to try to modify it for a better seal. Do yours leak at all?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey yes it did to start with - you need to re-seat the rubber seal & should be ok, but I find myself doing this pretty much every time I fill up… they’re just a bit finicky - haven’t tried the seals from the original cap on these though, that might work?

[@spencerh2860]

My exhaust has 2820 stamped on it like yours. Do you know if yours has the cat in it at all mate ? Many thanks

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Mine didn’t mate but I know there are two different models, one with one without

[@spencerh2860]

How did you tell if yours had one or didn’t? I got the rear handled version and I’m trying to work out if mine has one or not, without hacking it apart. It feels quite heavy on the opposite side of the opening…. Many thanks from the south east of England

[@spencerh2860]

Mine has the same 2820 number so I would like to think if yours didn’t, then mine wouldn’t either, but really am not too sure…

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

The no-cat muff is A030000851 - I’m not 100% sure but pretty sure it comes on the ‘C’ carving saws. I’m going to do a follow up vid with my final mods which bypass the cat if you have one anyway and a few other bits - stay tuned! :)

[@julianalderson3938]

Got a 150 muff mod time advance. Its been great but loud. Bro got new 151 barely runs chokes shame have to do it to wake em up. But so worth it thanks'

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Deffo worth doing on small saws - bigger saws is more about the proper porting and engine work… I don’t claim to even know what I’m doing lol …but can deffo pass on my experiences of what worked for me! :)

[@riedmeyer]

Where can I get those dogs (bumper spikes)?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Got mine from chainsawbars.co.uk - west coast saws have some out now too but they’re about 5x the price!

[@riedmeyer]

Tried the Husky caps. Didn’t fit. Any way you could be more specific as to which one DO fit?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Mine fitted fine but the rubber seal can be a bit finicky - there are two sizes, large and small, you need two of the small ones - I got mine from here :) skylandequipment.com/products/husqvarna-fuel-and-oil-flip-tank-cap-small-spare-parts

[@francescopoliseno7337]

Hi friend, Husky caps are fine or there is a leak.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey! There was a small leak to start with - the rubber seal is quite easy to accidentally move if overtightened and needs putting back in place if it does… but if you’re careful it’ll be fine :)

[@mikeharvey8962]

Can i get a part number on those husky caps. I cant get my hands on t525 saw, and no one can find the right part without a part number. I have bunch of geniuses ive been working with.

[@chrysanthosnicolaou2760]

Have you done any carburator adjustment after the porting modification? Will be needed to be done after such mod? Thanks

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Yes but you need a regular size ‘D’ carb spanner to adjust them 👍

[@jakeharris4465]

You will get a better result if you drill through both metal walls on muffler as it has a central wall it will still be restricted,go through second Wal then see what happens it will take off 👌

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Cheers man we’ve since had it apart and discovered this… I misunderstood the tutorial I was working from lol But hands up - I’m upfront in saying I’m new to this lol No filings taken or any damage to the piston tho

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Cheers man we’ve since had it apart and discovered this… I misunderstood the tutorial I was working from lol But hands up - I’m upfront in saying I’m new to this lol No filings taken or any damage to the piston tho

[@TheBeaveljeez]

Hey man, great video, I see that you've mentioned the Husqvarna caps, I got a couple and tried them out but the fuel spills right out. Do you have the round gaskets or are you using something flat? Just curious, if I could get this just right it would increase my productivity on the job. Any chance you have a link to the dogs? Thank you so much man. Very informative.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate, I have the round ones that came with the husky caps - they do seal, but because of the deep inner thread of the echo oil chamber you need to leave them relatively loose & make sure they don't get overtightened. If they do you'll need to reseat the rubber o-ring gasket thing. I can just about manage with mine cos were a small team and everyone knows they're a bit finicky, but I can't recommend them for a fast paced pro setting tbh... Yes mate, link below, west coast saws also have some on the market - might wanna check those out - much more expensive but that's what I'd have gone for if they were out when I was buying. I've also made my own - pretty easy to do - vid on the channel :) ...& will have a prototype batch for sale in the new year! Panther ones can be found here though: www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/cm065-panfaa-saw-dawgs-echo-cs2511-tes-wes-skeleton-version/

[@mq5815]

How do u do a muffler mod on a 200t

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

I don’t have one mate so haven’t done it myself, but I know the muffler is very similar to the 201 (which I have worked on - check back a couple of vids on my uploads) However, if I had a 200 of my own I’d probably look at getting one of the snazzy west coast saws muffler mod pipe deflector things for it - that’s what my colleague has, ported and tuned up too and it’s an absolute beast. Sorry I can’t be more helpful, but hope that’s of some use! 😊

[@mountainman6438]

What husky caps do you need to get? I got some small ones and they dont fit mine! nice video mate

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

It’s the ones for the 525 mate, part number somewhere in the comments 👌 Not gonna lie they’re finicky - if you over tighten them even slightly you need to re seat the rubber seal. Someone found a gasket that solved the problem deep on an American thread but I couldn’t find a matching part… Also I’ve since tried the snazzy 2500t caps as well and that’s totally different unfortunately :/

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Watch my PSA video too mate - having issues with that stupid design decision again! :(

[@mountainman6438]

​@NotYourAverageTreeMan Ah sweeet no worries thanks a lot mate! Cheers

[@wvboy0311]

How much did ya adjust the high jet

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Not much just a little tweak - 1/8th of a turn maybe? - to be honest it needs a bit more, I’m still dialling it in… :)

[@wvboy0311]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan thanks im tinkering with my echos trying to get a little more life and power out if them

[@whopper9037]

Do you have a link for the dogs please

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Yes mate :) They’re well worth it! www.chainsawbars.co.uk/product/cm065-panfaa-saw-dawgs-echo-cs2511-tes-wes-skeleton-version/

[@AlexAiiiiR]

Great vid managed to get all the extra bits also cheers for that 👍 A mate at work has done all the mods on his 151 and has drilled a few holes in the bottom of his air filter casing for extra air flow do you or does anyone recons that would work on the echo? Cheers

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

A guy on Arbtalk recommended taking out the rubber air pipe below the air filter but I haven’t done this - from my experience getting air in isn’t the problem, it’s getting more air out and increasing the fuel at the high end that makes the biggest difference - still dialling it in myself though - let me know if you give it a go! 🤙 Check the below comments on fuel caps - they do fit, but they’re a bit awkward to keep sealed!

[@AlexAiiiiR]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan ah ok might give that a go and will let you know what I find out 🤙 Ye they fit fine it’s making sure the rubber seals aren’t pushed in as I found that out the other week they work well now 👌

[@joescissorhands141]

Wait so the muff still has the full catylitic converter setup inside choking-off flow? I know final-exit porting needs to be done on any OEM muffler but that's rarely the entirety of it especially w/ most echo's IME.. Are the 525 Husqy caps still holding tight? Thanks for the tip am subscribing just for that, would love to hear they hold up well over time :D Thanks for posting this I'm just breaking-in mine (still idling RPM, tank #3 now, and small quick cuts) am eager to get it broken-in so I can actually push it!!

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate, I believe there are two oem mufflers - one with and one without a cat in there - pretty sure the one without comes as stock on the ‘c’ carving version but not 100% sure… Husky caps are gold - just don’t overtighten too much, the o-ring slips out of place pretty easily :) Good luck mate!

[@giardinaggiomanutenzione4275]

Tappi husqvarna?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Husky 525 caps 👍

[@metaspencer]

great channel man ... I've subbed

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Cheers man I’ll try keep em coming! :)

[@orlandofreelancearborist3558]

Where are you based mate?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Based in Newark/Nottingham, UK mate :)

[@leoga8521]

Best one out there for sure

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Cheers dude! Planning a follow up with a couple of final mods soon… ;)

[@thibaultvivant9446]

Hi man thanks for your video. So personally on mine the dye worked well. I received the caps that you recommend, it fits but there is a very small fuel and oil leak. I have to keep the old echo plugs. I tried with different seals the leak is still there. To the pleasure. Hello from France !

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey there mate! Yes there is, and it’s dead simple! The husky seals get easily dislodged from where they need to be when overtightened. Take them out, reseat the seal, give the threads a clean whilst you’re there… They need to be much looser than the original Echo ones - trust the seal & don’t over tighten them & all will be good :) 👍

[@thibaultvivant9446]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan Thank you for your answer I just tried again no way there are always a few drops .. too bad in any case it is unbridled and more beautiful. Thanks again

[@thibaultvivant9446]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3WXhpd7jJV5e5o look man !

[@toolsreviewsandmore5326]

Same here...I had to revert back to the original caps ..

[@stephentree3466]

So no baffle drill through, no enlarge of exhaust exit on pot, no polish of same, no re tune (VERY important) but it’s painted black ! Well done 😂 Oh dear

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Yes baffle drilled through and of course it’s been retuned 🤷‍♂️

[@codyulve905]

Good video but it would have been better if you ran it before the mod as well

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Fair point! ...if I pick up another we'll see about revisiting it 😉

[@blinddume3859]

😍 well done

[@blinddume3859]

Did you port it yourself as well?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Cheers man :)

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Yes we did the muffler and the air intake afterwards - but it was the muffler that made all the difference 👍

[@spencerh2860]

What did you do to the air intake mate Many thanks

[@mariskrievins774]

red bull💪👍

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

FTW! 💪

[@arborymastersllc.9368]

Wow

[@GozonTheGonsarian]

your saw better be a beast with all of those metal filings you just made it eat. always take your muffler off the saw to work on it. it's only 2 bolts.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Pretty sure we’re all good we were super careful, have since had it apart - but I know I should have taken it off and apart in the first place… 👍

[@treemands]

why's it gonna eat filings when that is the exhaust...not the intake.

[@GozonTheGonsarian]

@@treemands it's just how it works. it's an open port motor the exhaust is not always blowing sometimes it sucks a little bit...

[@EcSsAwS]

You did all that WITHOUT TAKING THE MUFFLER OFF You do realize there is now metal shavings INSIDE the muffler that the topend will now eat God damn. That is the stupidest thing I've. Seen somebody do Take the muffler off and look at the cylinder and piston. It'll be scored up now (besides the fact you run it hard while it's cold) Here's a real quick tip! TAKE THE MUFFLER OFF

[@joehicks8189]

They were ground away/outwards with the dremel and files were used just to sort the burrs collecting shavings with my finger - pretty confident we’re all good… But you’re right, if I was a pro workshop guru guy selling my services to someone else I would’ve - it should be stripped off & taken apart… 👍

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

The muffler was taken off to do the inner baffle - but you’re right I should’ve really taken it off from the start to be safe

[@fabzacres-blackcat]

🤔

[@הראלרמז]

Hello What is your Facebook that we can write to there so that you can explain to me how to make the improvement in the exhaust of the saw, okay?

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Hey mate, watch the second vid I explain it much better :)

[@הראלרמז]

Which video will you send me so I know which video.

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

This one mate :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/sISlhIObpdCbqKM

[@azw6993]

Brilliant, everything i wanted to know - thanks 😎

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Be sure to either take off the muffler or clean EVERYTHING with air and a magnet afterwards

[@dustinsteele9656]

You realize you just metal all in the engine? Take the mufflers off nimrod!

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Everyone seems to think the filings will pass through a solid metal baffle into the cylinder for some reason - they won’t. Take it off after & blast it out, then do the inner baffle whilst it’s off.

[@dustinsteele9656]

@@NotYourAverageTreeMan I believe your incorrect. Video shows him picking it up, turning it over,flipping it around and over, then the jerking for starting it. etc etc. So yes, they could definitely work their way into the engine. No telling what he did off the camet

[@gregbrown9271]

Take muffler of to mod

[@NotYourAverageTreeMan]

Since had it off for stage 2 - will do an update vid sometime :)