Echoes of Wisdom Doesn't Set Itself Apart - Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom Review

[@capn_sarge]

What's your favorite Zelda game?

[@mdsuave13]

link to the past

[@capn_sarge]

@mdsuave13 that is a classic!

[@daileybeating]

Agree with you on the 2D stuff. I was really raised on those GBC and GBA Zeldas. Love Minish cap and seasons but oracle of ages and links awakening GBA are are still my favorite 2D games I am a big fan of the Switch 3D Zeldas, some of my favorite games ever made, but would love to see a return to the more traditional style 3D games in a future game

[@capn_sarge]

@daileybeating yeah ages was so good. My favorite of the oracle games as well. While I loved breath of the wild I think my favorite 3d has to be wind waker.

[@justmhr7598]

I liked it , it was different being a summoner vs a swordfighter

[@petarnikolov3227]

I agree with you. The gameplay with echoes was so different from the usual sword and shield of Link's combat. Original and refreshing.

[@marypuppet110]

As someone who's really bad at combat games but still loves Zelda games, I loved this one. I almost never used my Link power. For me the most used Echo was the Waterblock to go up quickly 😂 And I was 2 dungeons in when my friend told me the beds could be used to refill my hearts 😅😂 And I realized after few friends told me about their gameplay that yes we do become repetitive with the echoes we personally used but we all played the game differently and had different favourite echoes!

[@capn_sarge]

That is fun! It's always interesting with games like this, where you do what feels most natural, and then other people do the same but with totally different tools! The water blocks were pretty great once I realized you could stack them they became favorites as well for me. Glad you loved the game!

[@petarnikolov3227]

I love the diverse combat of echoes and the ability to aid your summoned creatures with sword, bombs, and bows. I, too, enjoyed the abilities that improved your combat weapons damage and energy duration. The only thing that I can see that is lacking is the length of the game. It ends, too quickly. Even when doing the side quests, the actual length of the game left me feeling that there should have been more temples and dungeons.

[@capn_sarge]

I agree the game did feel like it was over right as it was really getting going but I also think they ran out of enemies and movement echoes too. So many late game enemies are enemies you already met earlier, just stronger. So I can see why they didn't want to stretch it much further

[@letsgobombo]

As a lifelong Zelda fan, wish I liked it more. Using echoes for every situation (and by extension using that awful menu) just pulled me out of the experience everytime I started getting into it. Using echoes for combat is straight up not fun.

[@capn_sarge]

@@letsgobombo yes they really need to fix the echo AI for combat. It added so much time waiting for them to finally decide to attack or having to resummon them because they'd die too quick. Definitely rough around the edges but shows promise I think. A solid start to build upon

[@OhNoTheFace]

No imagination huh

[@toddhowardforreal3912]

Personally I enjoyed it a lot but I went in with low expectations for the combat 😂

[@BeastOrGod]

You should try hard mode.

[@BeastOrGod]

Why would Zelda be different from Link tho? Like, the world of Zelda is on Adventure setting... Why would Zelda being the new protag change the adventure setting?

[@capn_sarge]

Like I said I didn't mind it, but I think it's fair that people can associate adding new playable character with new or unique mechanics because otherwise what was the point of making them the pc? So if you have those types of expectations you might be disappointed

[@toddhowardforreal3912]

I kinda hope they keep the open ended tool box type puzzles for zelda les games and return link to more traditional games like WW and Oot

[@capn_sarge]

@@toddhowardforreal3912 I wouldn't mind that. Wind waker is my favorite 3d zelda game

[@SpoonTaco]

Idk i didnt like TOK nor this game, idc that u play as zelda, ik they want to take zelda in a different way, but i just dont like the open world and scribblenauts concept for a zelda game, i like the small amount of arsenal that u get and have to solve puzzles with, thats why i really Loved Botw too, yeah the "dungeons" sucked but that was kind of it, everything else was amazing especially on your first play through. This feels like how assassins creed went a different direction so now we have a split fan group. Its going to happen here too most likely.

[@capn_sarge]

@@SpoonTaco I definitely hear what you're saying. I think this game at least still mostly felt like zelda. Sure it wasn't totally linear but the relative structure was very "classic top down zelda." I think with some refinement they could really have something here so I hope they keep iterating on it.

[@ZtotheMills]

I enjoyed my time with the game, but I also found myself with a sense of regret over the fact I'd paid full price for it. It didn't feel worth it. I do see it as a sort of.... 'sign of hope' so to speak. TOTK is my favorite Zelda but I also see the mountain of flaws that it has, and I still believe that it carries BOTW's stigma of "Its not a Zelda game", Since Echoes kinda proved that they can do this open ended approach and still make it feel like Zelda. I do agree that it feels a bit lame that THIS is the 'Play as Zelda' game we got. It really didn't live up to how big of a deal that was for us.

[@capn_sarge]

@@ZtotheMills yeah I get what you mean. I think with some more refinement this really could have been something special. I do hope they make another game in this style and get rid of some of the rough edges that this one had

[@andregouveia3258]

Why you pay full price? Any game worth full price because you have promos everytime, this one i buy pre order with one extra promo so i pay 35€ pre order... I even get the zelda keychain

[@ZtotheMills]

@@andregouveia3258 I wasn't gonna buy a collectors edition and I didn't want to wait for however many years it took for Nintendo to put the game on sale.

[@andregouveia3258]

@@ZtotheMills You buy the digital edition? I never do that beceuse is always more expensive ( for nintendo exclusives) with retailers i found alwals good discounts, this for example i had the game in day 1 with 15% pre order and mix with other discount (42% discount total). Some games i can find that i waith 1 or 2 mouths, for me any game worth more than 40€.

[@SteveBarna]

Very surprised by the value being worth. Seems very simplistic. And having a linear selection for all the echos seems super annoying. Although I guess when you're just spamming beds all game its not. Overall: M E H

[@capn_sarge]

There's another menu you can use that's a grid, but yeah the quick change bar got a little too big. There's still some good puzzles to be had and the world has a good number of secrets to find. Presentation is great. Not a groundbreaking masterpiece but still a solid adventure game