Bathrooms and Decor | Ultimate Beginner's Guide | Ep 7 | ONI

[@johngunter4590]

Nearing 400 oni hours and I still find these videos helpful.

[@johncundiss9098]

Wait a little longer. You will add a digit the that hours number. Mine is over 1100 hrs. Excellent game.

[@kks_grandma182]

​@@johncundiss9098 Adding up the hours is easy to do. Mine is over 2400 and I am still learning things about the game and tips of better things to do. Great video

[@odyx0]

This is the escape from tarkov equivalent to 4x strategy games I stg. I love high skill cap/knowledge games. I love when I get on a game there is a new challenge that I have to overcome in a variety of ways and all solutions can only be applied in certain ways. I found this game from Echo randomly coming onto my YT ALGO and I have fell in love in 2 months I have 260 hours I play every time I get a chance

[@DRY411S]

This is the best tutorial for ONI bar none. There's a couple of things that have changed since it was made.Your trick to store the polluted water in the tank no longer works unless you turn the door 90 degrees (if you want the dupes to go through it occasionally).

[@benjaminsieuw3556]

It’s working fine for me 🤔

[@eddsson]

Picked up ONI on Steam the other day, holy cow your videos, and the community posts in the comments, are amazing. Thanks!

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you and welcome!

[@ahmedmagdydev]

This is the best tutorial series for a game I've ever seen.

[@boxoffrogs9712]

Like the bathroom solution immensely. I kinda feel that I am cheating not working this all out by myself but I still have to remember what you did once I start a playthrough so maybe I'm just being smart by watching your videos?

[@stevenwojtysiak6392]

This was the perfect place to stick the oxygen mask tutorial (digging for reed fiber). In fact, as far as I'm concerned, it is really the only time the oxygen mask is useful and is rarely used. I hope Klei comes up with more uses for the crafting table. Maybe something like shovels or paint brushes or items required to maximize the output of the masterwork process for each branch in the skill tree. anything to make the poor lonely crafting table somewhat useful.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

This beginner series won't be able to cover every building. Not sure if I am going to be covering masks themselves, but will talk about them a smidge when building atmo suits.

[@odyx0]

I found a mod that gives your oxygen masks eye protection! It's not a full suit so temp still affects them but they no longer get irritated eyes etc. Very useful early game when I don't wanna commit a full suit and don't want the stress from itchy eyes when clearing out those first few swamps

[@adolfodef]

@@odyx0 Ideally that mod should add a new recipes to make an "advanced mask" (placed either on a new research, or added to an existing one before the full exosuit); using a normal mask that is not ruined plus either glass, plastic or diamond. -> The dupe must be able to see through the mask. [Theory] (The "transparent" helmet of a suit is an abstraction of a much more cumbersome self_closing, negative pressure sealed, "periscope", using only polished ores & opaque reed fibers). This is why untrained dupes are so slow with exosuits [ open periscope, look around for 1 second, closed, move/action_while_blinded, open & look again... ]

[@adolfodef]

I find the use of masks as a "fallback" method to access the outside ofvthe colony (when there is a lack of power, oxygen or not_broken suits) fundamental to guarantee ACCESS to places a dupe would never reach otherwise because of breathing interrupting travel. . The difficult part is to create a system of sensors, logic gates & powered doors that is reliable to "unlock" access to the alternative exit ONLY when no functional, charged suits are available after a while [since brief instances of "all in use" or "power/oxygen" intermitency should not trigger all dupes going outside with masks].

[@stegles]

32:00 A good explanation, however it is also worth noting for consideration that if the water sieve has no filtration material or loses power, water will bypass it and go to the overflow, in your example, the thimble reed, for this reason it can be smart to put a storage tank infront of the seiv and overflow from there instead. This will mitigate the rare condition where you lose all your water because you ran out of sand/regolith/power for a long period of time. Naturally this can be done on the inverse, storing clean water as a buffer. There are other more advanced ways of using bridges to do the same thing and save space, but as this is a beginners guide, we will ignore those.

[@adolfodef]

In my humble opinion, the game should start with a "bottle_sized_liquid_tank" [2x1 tiles high_wide] (200kg) as part of the basic liquid research that gives pipes. -> It would fulfill the same rol than the tiny battery. It does NOT have automation ports. This way, you get the same effect than building 20 extra long pipes.

[@trashpanda9433]

Oh boy, this means its almost time for a beginner SPOM

[@linkhewitt36]

I had NEVER gotten to 100 cycles(today) until I started watching your videos. Thank you. It still feels like I need a degree to understand half the stuff in the game, but your videos help SOOOOOOO MUCH!

[@gillespage5489]

35:15 I use the Fluid Shipping mod for putting liquid bottles back into pipes. It has a nice building for this. I been using it for so long I forgot it's a mod

[@adolfodef]

Thanks for making us know that mod exist! -> To balance it out, maybe it should require the duplicant building it (but not the ones using this building) to have the "plumbing" skill (since it is the same mechanic, just backwards).

[@Thewilsike]

Great Progression guideline like always!

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you.

[@TheAngryForest]

Good morning Echo! Love how you go into detail with everything, I feel like I always pick up something new. Keep up the great work!

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thanks AngryForest!

[@joeblack4436]

The thing with slime is that if you don't dig it, then no problem. You can with a little care harvest a lot from slime biomes, including gold ore, a lot of water to purify and thimble reed seeds from the buried objects. Which are after all very visible. There's always a spot with sand and sandstone. You entered the biome right by one. You're usually almost guaranteed to find a thimble reed seed there. Players should just take care with building ladders and tiles next to slime too. The slimelung germs tend to seep into such buildings, which will generate purifying errands, and it can easily become a major time sink for dupes with tidying priority. Also. One of my favourite topics.. "The Janitor". You can put a dispenser without the sweep only task, but behind a door that only "The Janitor" can pass through. On the other hand the dropoff point can be behind another gate that only "The Janitor" doesn't have access to pass through. EZ peasy super super squeezy.

[@anthonystewart1936]

Just found your beginners guide series and I have to say, these are not just the best tutorial videos I have found on ONI, but by far the best tutorial videos I have seen about any game on KZbin. Excellent content and excellent presentation. Keep up the good work man.

[@Hanmacx]

36:49 another idea is to build the filter System on the same level as the bathroom, so then they were handling polluted dirt/water, they need to pass through the sinks anyway Edit: 37:30 there you said it

[@TheAntoine185]

Back in the days when I bought the game, it was common to see players cleaning and decontaminating their polluted water coming from the bathroom in a chlorine chamber. But the reed and the close loop is so much more efficient!

[@M9243]

It's super fun following along with my own little colony to this series!

[@DQSpider]

Lately I've been keeping a ration box or two set to priority 1 for muckroot and other non-perishables. I'll even keep it next to the fridges so everything is in the same place

[@Apex_1804]

thank you so much for these videos, hopefully we get more detailing more things in this game to help us get better and understand things better.

[@davidmathis7780]

Wow, great series! Learned a lot from this one - never considered building the base out of granite instead of default sandstone for the decor buff. And I always wondered why they got the "chilly surroundings" debuff in the water, the thermal conductivity explains it. Great job on these videos :)

[@declaration9704]

Another great tutorial. Thanks and looking forward to the next one.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you.

[@Altek2k]

I've been playing oni forr years and you still taught me some neat tricks!

[@theholyabigrail]

You are doing an expert level job of explaining your methods, I'm learning new tips every episode! The idea to use your excess polluted water for thimble reed is genius!! This point right here is where I can confidently get to, but I'm not as familiar with the process and systems of getting into the next biomes, so I'm eager to see how you handle that! I'd even be curious to see a series on how you handle entry into each biome and using the resources to your advantage, i.e. what you do to tame the critters, ect. Happy gaming!

[@minimarleyx4998]

I'm not new to watching this game but i am very inexperience and bad at playing and im watching this playthrough and doing every step and ive gotten the furthest ive ever gotten in one playthrough with this its so helpful, HOWEVER im trying to follow it well, as i dont know any other way, but my natural Thimble reed was underwater in a cool steam vent, so as you can imagine my excursion to try and gather them didnt go well, first try was just digging to it, grabbing it and running, 2 dupes died. reload previous save, i tried using a thermo aquatuner and separate power grid to cool it down, Aquatuner immediately overheated and 2 dupes died. THIRD TRY flooded my base many dupes died, Fourth try? i let the process be a bit slower, my pod blueprint came in and it was a thimble reed seed package, i am absolutely raging lmao. srsly though this series is insane and im having so much fun being able to play knowing what im doing. All love brother

[@adolfodef]

Yeah, that was a "cursed" randomly generated map_seed. . The best solution is to build tiles from above diagonally (slowly pushing away the hot water in the other side, building around the reeds), until they are isolated from the vent. -> Then build a 2 tall corridor/dump_tank below the isolated reeds, digging up & running away. Once only "splashes" of water remain, dupes can run getting themselves wet & hot (but NOT burning, because each foot_tile only has grams of water, while their legs have many thousands of grams). . Dig/unroot the fiber plants , collect their seeds, store them safely. . Profit.

[@alitatripp9822]

Love your videos. These really help even in the later game

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

I am glad to hear it. Thank you.

[@WormGeod]

God I could watch these all day!

[@bug254]

Echo, you're the ONI GOAT. Thanks for these

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you Bug!

[@sh4kuma263]

Me when I dont listen to all the video and connect the water sieve to my water supply and now i have gazillions of germs in it

[@Hanmacx]

Interesting note: wash rooms can be used to flush down heat

[@DocDeath93]

Best tutorial out there. Just my opinion.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you!

[@diebuettel5846]

You could also use a thimble reed in a regular farm tile to collect all the polluted water bottles, which would take longer but not use any power. You would also have to avoid pitcher pumps in polluted water, but who does that anyway.

[@adolfodef]

[New Update]: New type of "order". . Select an object (including the "bottles" containing liquids or gases) & then TARGET a valid location where it can "sit" (dupes will move it there). . Since multiple bottles of the same liquid "merge" into a bigger bottle, a row of 9 tiny bottle liquids (a few kg each) can "converge" on the 5th by a dupe standing there without moving. . If then this bigger bottle is moved 9 tiles to where the 14th tiny bottle BEFORE giving the orders to "converge" bottles 10th to 18th on the 14th [repeats] it creates a "train" that even a single dupe can move in one single journey [instead of going back & forth]. -> The final Biggest Bottle can be split between duplicants if necesary, moving it next to the plants that consume it using each hauler dupe MAX carrying capacity (only then the locsl farmers should irrigate each plant by tiny ammounts whenever necesart).

[@Laoni162]

In theory, could you do the entire bathroom set up with just the polluted water and pump going to the sieve and then filling all the lines with water? So that you never have to pump water out of your main source of water at all? Love your videos!

[@LiIBeary]

2:55 I'm surprised you don't uncheck slime or talk about other items that can off gas like bleachstone as well for example 🤔 Those things I usually put in my water storage lol

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

I do, sometimes I miss things while talking in the video, but still end up doing it.

[@BraveGamerCat01]

I have a question! So I used to use the water seive in the past to have the loop for my bathrooms, but I kept having sick dupes. I then opted for the liquid reservoir to store it until i made a sanatizing room. So does washing hands with dirty clean water get rid of the food poisoning germs?

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Yes washing hands with "dirty clean water" does remove the germs. It is probably your dupes moving polluted dirt around your colony.

[@adolfodef]

@@EchoRidgeGaming Interesting. -> This give a real use for Chlorine consumption (sanitizing solids), other than the initial slime from natural biomes.

[@matheww9944]

Thanks that close loop waste water systems a great idea

[@garyharris8082]

awesome tutorial

[@wayneseibel3167]

Great series, am enjoying it and learning a lot. I am having an issue with the hydroponics farm though. I've set it up the same as yours, with the polluted water running into the thimbleweed, but the plant is just sitting there staring back at me with no growth happening. I can see the polluted water flowing to the plant, but am still getting the red message after a couple of cycle.

[@PGMP2007]

EP 7 LETS GO, last one before going to sleep.

[@shi-woonyi2605]

Thank you for your videos! Helped me quite a lot.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you for watching and for the comment.

[@netkitten]

"Project's almost over so Catalina is gonna be fine" as the Pei is literally just standing underwater holding their breath and being idle :P Oh Pei's, whatever will we do with you :)

[@platoniccanine]

Dumb question about building the tank, when you build a tile on the H2O tile, does it push the H2O out of the way or does it void it with the tile?

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

I am not 100% sure what you are asking, but... only one element can exist in a tile at a time. So when water comes into a tile, it pushes the oxygen away.

[@platoniccanine]

@@EchoRidgeGaming mb, I suck at wording lol In some games, if you have a gas or liquid (Minecraft is best example!) And you place a solid block on a non solid (dirt on water in MC) it voids that non solid resource. So I was wondering if ONI does that too, or if it pushes those "particles" into a new tile where there's room?

[@adolfodef]

@@platoniccanine In ONI, a single drop of water (1 gram), occupies an entire 1 tile, equal to 1 cubic meter (1000 liters); this is the same for 1 Millon grams of water (1 literal ton). Because dupes can not swim (they fall like rocks, even on liquid magma) & they can only breathe on the second tile over a solid of some kind; they may asphixiate if there is a tiny film of oil on the ground with another tiny layer of water on top. -> This is a game quirk from the abstraction of complex physics for perfirmance/ludic reasons [reality is boring]. Trivia: Some of this "super-viscosity" issues with air & water is experienced in real life by diminute insects (bees, ants, or smaller) at those small scales at sea level pressure [flight may be imposible for some at high altitudes in the mountains, or they get tired quickly by the lack of oxygen & extra effort from moving less air].

[@Iannar]

In my bathroom design I shift the whole washroom 2 tiles to the side, so the one tile wide fragment of Natural Reserve room can fit, giving +6 morale bonus when passing to toilets. The rest of the Nature Reserve room is above with some wild pips and wild planted Thimble Reed to feed them.

[@seeess925]

I made algae bushes early today improve my oxygen. But they produce bottles of polluted water. And the bottles polite the air. Where to dump that polluted water?

[@James2210]

I like sticking my nonperishable foods in an unpowered refrigerator in the kitchen next to my mess hall

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

I like it.

[@adolfodef]

Add an automation switch (green/red button), so you can instantly enable it (while "ejecting" non-perishables) to allow dupes to move a lot of new food "unlocked" by digging through a new zone. -> The new "move item here" order can help by moving all non-perishables to a non-ice tile in an ice biome, then constructing an ice thermalshift plate on it (insta_melts), over & over until it does not anymore (guaranteed all non-perishables to be -1°C). After that, they can be added back to their "last fridge". -> This helps to speed skill leveling on dupes with science & construction, because of the high number of "internal parts" fir construction time in the thermalshift plate blueprint.

[@joey1117]

amazing video!

[@shoobidoobap]

Learning a lot from your gameplay still! :) Could you please make a series for the "next phase" after beginner? That's often when I restart my game. Hahaha!

[@Chiberia]

Just FYI - I'm not sure if this is from an update, but CO2 doesn't kill Slimelung per the Dictionary, as of April 2024.

[@martingraham4125]

just found you, loving the vids!

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Thank you and welcome!

[@DRY411S]

I'm playing this map along with the tutorials. I've been unlucky with newdupes and still running on 3. I've realised that you just dont need the pump in the water tank to start the bathrooms. Just use the polluted water bottles and empty them into the trough by the sieve.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Nothing wrong with running 3 dupes for as long as you need :)

[@Lictor2k]

Doesn’t putting the showers between the toilets and sink mean you could get 5 dups in the room meaning you run a higher chance of them bypassing the in use sinks and moving germs through the base?

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Yes, although I have never seen it happen. Probably with the way I set my schedules, it isn't likely to happen.

[@Lictor2k]

@@EchoRidgeGaming I noticed it happened with my last play through but I then reduced the Dups per shift and it fixed it up for me too

[@Exoudar]

At 34:40, why wouldn't you Lock the door instead of choosing Auto and removing both ways?

[@realtorchancegassman8662]

So because of the net water gain from lavatories could you send that to a polluted water tank and then sieve it? Maybe not worth it just for the small water gain but just suggesting as a biased polluted tank user. Realistically I don’t know if it makes real worlds sense that many more kilos of polluted water are produced from the clean water input but who knows. Needless to say my clean water tank has over 1,000,000 germs per tile 😂 but no sicknesses yet.

[@Killyspudful]

Hey man - thank you for your efforts here and on your VODs. Really appreciate it. Question - why use *two* Automatic Dispensers for infinite storage, rather than one?

[@andrewmorden9528]

Because if one is queued for use no dupes will pick anything up until that dupe has dropped off the item just allows for faster clean up

[@adolfodef]

A second dispenser increases +100% the speed of storage (actually a bit more, because the second dupe or the first one is already running/collecting stuff, rather than waiting). -> Building a space above/below for a third dispenser also gives a location for a 4th, but they would both only increase less than +50% (just more over a 200% total, from 100% if one dispenser), unless all 4 duplicants can reach objects and dispense them without moving.

[@andrewmorden9528]

I personally don't use the infinite loop for bathrooms just personal preference makes no sense to me how washing hands with germy water gets them clean lol. But in the great words of Echo you do you boo😃

[@adolfodef]

For the plumbed sink: Given the ammount of water used on each flush (that fast, on just the hands), it has to flow extremely fast [high pressure], basically making a "tsunami" that forces germs out of that small surface into the liquid volume (other germs already in the water also unable to latch & hold). -> It probably uses the water pressure to also create a small buffer of vacuum/air_overpressure; this makes a strong, tiny wind at the very end of each use to push out any last drop of germy water out of the hands.

[@Chiberia]

14:03 - uh, what the hell are these minions eating that they're... expelling... 15 POUNDS per bathroom trip??

[@MoxHalite]

Does adding the polluted dirt to your water source not pollute the water? I know i accidentally let a tiny bit of polluted water into mine, and germs got out of hand.

[@StewEnergyItalia]

Hi Eco! Great series! Isn’t the water filtered full of germs?

[@99levelstolive]

Would you build an Oxygen Suit Station so your Dupes don't get sick from the polluted air when they're going down and digging?

[@Ed-wu8jn]

Here, have a comment. YAAAAAY

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Yaaay!

[@prestonarsenault9975]

Is there a way to run both my Carbon Skimmer AND my bathrooms off the same Water Sieve?

[@gallantgabby]

I've always heard you might as well use insulated pipes for the bathrooms, as pee is warm. I guess for the water itself its unnecessary, but I'd rather do it all anyways

[@adolfodef]

The water filtration generates heat to process it back to clear water too. . Feeding chilled sand to ~4°C (cooled passively by non-perishable food & medicine, taken from a pair of actively cooled fridges using automation) guarantees that it would remain below 20°C (from the 37°C coming out of duplicant excrete + sieve operation), so plants do not overheat & stiffle. -> This is useful if there is no way to "infinity cool" a remote asteroid colony [the heat from the fridge is dumped into CO2 or other excess gas, then pumped out to space].

[@benjaminsieuw3556]

@@adolfodef @gallantgabby thanks to you two, I was wondering why Echo was using insulated pipes !

[@benjaminsieuw3556]

and now I reached the moment he realised it was a mistake xD

[@CostelloDamian]

35:30 it seems super stupid not to be able to use the bottles to directly water your plants... lol

[@LlamaCat25]

Why do you say insulated pipes for the bathroom were a mistake? You want them to not transfer heat into the base. I always do this and works much better.

[@seeess925]

What wrangle button? What does that even mean? Was it in a previous episode? Wtf?

[@BigJimmy238]

FIRST! What do I win?

[@Melancholy_Chill]

Tap on a shouoder

[@BigJimmy238]

@@Melancholy_Chill Argh!

[@johncundiss9098]

The entire internet.

[@adolfodef]

You won a Cookie! -> The digital kind that european_complaining websites always demand acceptance.

[@lefterismplanas4977]

Producing 6kg of waste with each bathroom use zounds ... Wow....

[@adolfodef]

This explains their tolerance to chemicals & ability yo remove radiation (dupes are 97% water, 2% carbon nanotubes, then the rest is other elements).

[@xZippy]

These videos might be the worst I've ever seen. I mean these are a special kind of bad, and I'll explain why. First off, you forgot to add th- lol jk. Your guide is one of the best I've seen in history. Subscribed.

[@critaspaine]

Why does the unclaimed gift icon annoy me so much?

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

If it makes you feel better, I save them until I stream, and then we look at it together.

[@critaspaine]

@@EchoRidgeGaming So much better... my curiosity was killing me.

[@brycedrew3035]

plumbing is wrong for fps