So... is there even a point to this?

[@EckhartsLadder]

stickers: eckhartsladder.com/products/infinity-mask

[@DB6195]

I just think back to a decade ago when Legends was being kicked out the door and good ol’ Pablo said “I hate that in Legends Luke, Han and Leia never got their victory and it was just crisis after crisis” Cut to now. Aged like wine

[@Korijenkins1414]

Disney is effectively caving to people who wanted the new canon to just ape Legends at every turn. Those same people simultaneously complain about each and every thing Disney SW does. The result we got was a poor adaptation of Dark Empire, which itself was shit anyway.

[@ProtomanButCallMeBlues]

@@Korijenkins1414 It comes with the territory when you throw the baby out with the bath water. It wouldn't have been a bad idea to take good ideas and keep them as is, but maybe even take bad ideas and "fix" them. But when you create an "anti-fan", it really doesn't get fixed, at least not through a television show or movie that they seem to perceive as hostile. What might mend the divide is a return of the fan favorite games. Maybe "Empire at War"

[@EmperorPalpatineGalacticEmpire]

Would’ve just loved the original Thrawn series and a bit more and then a peaceful galaxy

[@MrBazBake]

​@@ProtomanButCallMeBluesThe EU was never part of the TVs or movies, so there was literally nothing to throw out.😂 People are just mad that Disney repeated what Lucas had told them for 20 years, upset they didn't get to hijack the universe and impose that Yuuzhan Vong nonsense on them. Seriously, "Space Hitler wasn't so bad because he was preparing us for SPACE MOOSLEMS!!!!" Psh, that whole thing was garbage. Disney didn't cave to the retcon brigade and now they act like their non-existent ownership of the IP was besmirched.

[@Damin-Danger-Ledford]

It's so annoying to finish a 7 book series just for another fuckin planet to explode in the last 10 pages. But if take that over the torture that is Disney Star Wars at least 50% outbof each year.

[@TheWarmachine375]

I was hoping that Grand Admiral Thrawn would have spent his time building a new base of operations and bolster his forces with new recruits from the Unknown Regions and new fleet of ships at his disposal.

[@daniels7907]

What do you think the Imperial Remnant has been doing while they wait for Thrawn to return from the other galaxy?

[@Scaash]

How? The population looks liek it was low and his resources where low. If he had the resources like you say to bolster his forces he wouldn't have to canibalized (metphoricaly) his Ship and Crew.

[@Korijenkins1414]

@@Scaash I believe he's saying he would rather have had Thrawn stranded in the Unknown Regions so he could do that. Instead Thrawn was just barely surviving in another galaxy.

[@daniels7907]

@ - But that actually proves how competent Thrawn is. A lot of brass would have lost their sh-- to find themselves stuck on a low-tech planet in another galaxy. Thrawn maintained discipline among his troops, forged an alliance with the Great Mothers, and together they were able to telepathically contact Morgan Elsbeth to build the Eye of Sion to return Thrawn to the GFFA. Being stuck in the Outer Rim would be easy by comparison. The technology used there is based off Republic/Imperial designs and the Imperial Remnant would have been able to rally around Thrawn quickly. His sojourn on Peridea demonstrates just how capable Thrawn is even when the odds are stacked against him. That makes him a top tier threat.

[@mpnuorva]

​@@daniels7907IIRC Pellaeon says that in the conference call scene.

[@johnpatz8395]

OMG, the old outro music. 😁

[@The_Quiet_American]

yeah wtf!?

[@cuttlefish8184]

Gotta love Resonance by Home

[@arrusdefel1]

Yeah, Thrawn wouldn't have just been waiting to come back. He is intelligent and driven. He would have been busy building and repairing his fleet. A hint of that was seen. However, he was there for years....

[@daniels7907]

Because Peridea visibly lacks technological resources sufficient to repair a damaged ISD. Try to remember that being carried off to another galaxy wasn't a part of his plans. It's actually amazing he did so well in a place where the Empire was meaningless.

[@s0ph053]

@@daniels7907there are more planets in the galaxy.

[@avilancer2516]

​@@daniels7907 I mean yeah. To rebuild and repair, you need a shipyard and materials. It's not like his fleet included a contingent of shipwrights and a starter pack when it was stranded in Peridea. If he was stuck in Bilbringi, Jaemus, or Entralla, then it would be a different story.

[@Korijenkins1414]

@@s0ph053 And he had no realistic way of traveling to them with an extremely damaged ship that couldn't be sufficiently repaired on the planet. The real world equivalent of what happened to Thrawn is like taking an American military general and some units under his command and dropping them in 1000 AD North America. Can't do anything but wait and hope to be rescued.

[@daniels7907]

@ - Exactly! The Chimaera was pretty heavily damaged and Thrawn obviously didn't have the resources on Peridea to make it spaceworthy to reach other star systems. But Thrawn did get the Great Mothers to work for him and he did surprisingly well given that he was stranded on a barren planet in another galaxy. Meanwhile, back in the GFFA the Imperial Remnant are marshalling their forces in preparation for Thrawn's return. The first season of Ahsoka ended with Thrawn successfully returning to the GFFA with a mysterious payload that is very important to his witchy allies. I would argue that the New Republic is nowhere near ready to handle him what with all the naysayers in the Senate who refuse to believe that he could ever come back. Thrawn has the forces of the Imperial Remnant, the Force "magic" of the Nightsisters, and who only knows what's in those caskets. Also, he's not a clown circus like First Order.

[@Xashe_]

Me personally, I love the way Zahn has taken Thrawn in the canon books. He's a lot more of an anti-villain rather than the actual villain he was in the HTTE trilogy. I feel like he's a lot more nuanced, and is a rare example of an Imperial that has some morals or at least isn't an Imperial die-hard. Him caring only about the Chiss Ascendancy and protecting it from the Grysks, while also caring about his own men and women of the 7th Fleet just makes him a lot more likeable, while still being the insane genius he is in the HTTE trilogy. Now even though he isn't a full on villain like in Legends, he will still do basically anything he has to to protect the Chiss. In regards to Canon book Thrawn, I think his goals now are to rebuild his forces, while also doing what he needs to in order to appease the Shadow Council at least until they're of no further use to him. I think he'll attack anyone who stands in his way to protect the Chiss, Imperial and New Republic alike. But his main goal should probably be to rebuild his forces. The only thing preventing him from taking his forces to the Chiss before was Palpatine. But now he's dead (for now) and he doesn't really care about Palpatine's Empire or his plans. Now, that's only if Filoni gave a single effort to look at what Zahn's been doing for the past 8 years, which of course he won't. Filoni unfortunately retcons anything he can in regards to books just to do it his way

[@ekos8282]

"To do basically anything." I'd love that but I think new thrawm does not do anything evil or questionable in the new books. I chalenge you to say any action that was evil that thrawm did in new books. In old legends: he broke is species taboo of first action, tried to kidnap jedi twins and sell them to insane dark jedi, tried to kidnap luke the hero of galaxy and sell him to the said dark jedi. Enslaved the Noghri.

[@cageymanager8824]

Completely agree having a morally grey character like thrawn is such a nice change from I’m evil because I’m angry

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

I don't like the way Filoni has handled Thrawn in Rebels or Ahsoka. He's been nerfed. He's not the same galaxy level threat he was in the original trilogy.

[@razorburn645]

At this point I just stopped caring about Disney's releases since they just seem to be discount remakes of the EU to the point that they even swiped the New Jedi Order era for themselves.

[@theCantinafan]

EU was pretty discount sci-fi to begin with, at least most of it, Timothy Zahn was a gem.

[@Bruhther816]

I still see Thrawn being just as evil even with the EU's later retcons. To me, making his motivations complex is part of writing him as an intelligent character, however it in no way vindicates either him or Palpatine. A large theme in the NJO is that there is such a thing as fighting the right battle the wrong way. Thrawn and Palpatine's way perhaps would've saved more lives during the initial invasion, and there is room to justify their philosophy as a result, but ultimately this can only be argued alongside justifying the Empire in its entirety. Personally, I believe that the Rebel Alliance were justified in resisting the Empire for the same reason that everyone, including the Empire, are justified in resisting the Yuuzhan Vong. So Thrawn is ultimately selfish, the only reason why he sides with Imperial oppression instead of Yuuzhan Vong oppression is because he sees the Empire as a power that can be reasoned with, whereas the Yuuzhan Vong are a power that explicitly cannot be reasoned with due to their zealous nature and irreconcilable worldview on technology and the beings who use it. Thrawn is only thinking about the Chiss Ascendancy and maintaining their autonomy, which probably makes him feel like a noble martyr for his people, but really only puts him on the level of any other nationalistic despot who believes that ends justify the means. So basically, I think saying that Thrawn was "white-washed" by the retcons, or otherwise implying that they make him less of a harsh villain is a bit off.

[@marty2129]

Agreed. For me as a Rebel/New Republic fan, Thrawn was always the "inteligent villain", a bad guy without overly sadistic tendencies or wastefulness, but one who still has pre-emptive genocide among his signature ways of doing things. And him doing it for the Ascendancy doesn't really make the picture better because the that one takes the spot as one of those harsher xenophobic isolationalist regimes, and the only part that Thrawn saw as a problem was the honour-bound isolationalism that just forbade the "pre-emptive" part of pre-emptive genocide... Though I also think he actually was whitewashed by Zahn a bit in his later books (in the Hand of Judgement series) with the whole Nuso Eswa arc... And there was also an earlier shift in the portrayal of Imperial Remnant under Pellaeon when it was the anti-alien imperial hardliner who became the poster boys of imperial villainy, which put Trawn's image into oposition of the imperial villains even if he was no less ruthless...

[@molochkali]

there was never a point to any of it

[@Wolf_Pack_all_the_way]

Hope you feel better Eck, love ya brother, thank you for everything you have done for us, I have been a fan for many years now, love your content.

[@felps_4500]

3:21 I've never really understood this argument, why would it diminish? That's not even the same Thrawn, he still did everything he did in his campaign, we know how he acts, we know he'll do anything to achieve his goals, and unlike other imperials, if he's losing, he will retreat to fight another day (unless he gets offed by his own men... 👀), and we know how much the "good guys" feared him, just a baseless rumor that he could come back made everyone in the NR sht their pants Thrawn was not an Imperial fanatic, he knew how to weight his options, (he was a smart blue man... 👀), if he saw how much stronger the NR got post Dark Empire (or even Orinda Campaign), he would've at least thought about changing sides, he might have even tried to bring Pellaeon as well Or if him changing sides is too much for people, just make him go full Revan and use his Empire of the Hand (and bring Pellaeon as well, because that's how they roll apparently, lol)

[@peytonwhite4316]

My guy keep this stuff up! This is amazing, you are an incredible writer or have a great team behind you. They way ur pointing out value points. I feel like I need to call u Professor and start talking notes. This is awesome content!!!

[@fremenchips]

Having an evil Thrawn I think has a lot more upsides to it. The biggest one is that it gives the writers an opportunity to examine what an intelligent person would find appealing about the Imperial state and it's ideology which would in fact make it less simple and more complex.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

shame the writers are morons and you cannot write a character far more intelligent than you are. he was a moron in ahsoka, why not pre load the nightsisters cargo knowing morgan is on her way? if he did that basic logical action the show would be over in half the time lol. dave is a hack

[@notOKeither]

DISNEY ISN’T CANON TO ME

[@thestumpinator5774]

I do not understand why a lot of Star Wars KZbinrs refuse to say it how it is. Filoni is a terrible choice for bringing back Thrawn. Zahn has made it clear how he wants the character portrayed, otherwise he would not have cemented that anti-hero/complex villain role that he has given Thrawn in the new canon. Just admit Filoni is too simple of a creator for dealing with a character like Thrawn

[@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922]

YOU FIND THE THRAW ASCENDED TRILOGY DUL? THE BEST STAR WARS BOOKS EVER WRITTEN DUL?! I mean that came out of NOWHERE

[@ekos8282]

I find it also dull. Thrawn is not challenged in anyway and all of his plans succeed. Does he do anything questionable/evil? In original books Thrawn invades new republic, tries to kidnap twins, luke and leia and sell them all to an insane dark jedi. And enslaves the noghri."

[@ctwargames]

#AskEck was there any Operation Valkyrie style conspiracies against Vader or the Emperor? The secular imperials would certainly find plenty of common cause against particularly Vader with his interference in military matters and executions, plus all of their failures in the OT being a direct result of Vader/Palps plans (also since the Empire as far as they knew was created because the mystic Jedi had ruined the republic and attempted to assassinate Palpatine they would surely question Vader being a force user) sorry it's long.

[@Kepora1]

No. The answer is that simple, Eckhart. *No.* There *is* no point.

[@Deltarious]

I think "last minute change of heart ultimate sacrifice as only path to redemption Thrawn" might be the best way to reconsile the 'softer' and more simplistic/harsh Thrawns we see. You could even write it as an internal struggle he's having where he's sometimes delibrately bending his plans for compassion and other times he's decided now not to. He could progress further down the "there is no other choice" path to evil but then basically realise he's made a miscalculation and that doing the 'right' thing would logically make more sense, perhaps he has to go through a leap of faith that's not based on logic at all before this too which would be quite Star Wars-y. I do agree that an 'evil' Thrawn is perhaps better for the whole narritive as it provides a really good foil for the plot to have a genuinely terrifying opponent in the mix but I also think that having his *motives* be just as complex really adds a lot to the character and they have to be pretty lofty goals for someone as driven as Thrawn so the 'softer' writing aproach does actually make a lot of sense thus my idea to unify them as ultimately it really is true that in most circumstances cooperation is logically superior to conflict, yet there can also be logical reasons you cannot see/beleive this particularly if Thrawn doesn't have all the information about the New Republic's beleifs/leadership/intent

[@karondanthy4119]

I really like the ascendancy trilogy. I found it a very compelling read, showing us areas of space that we've never seen much of before.

[@Vyrall3606]

When Thrawn is introduced in TTT, he’s more of a super intelligent Imperial leader because it’s primarily from his enemies’ perspective. Through the Hand of Thrawn duology, Survivors Quest, and Outbound Flight you learn there were many more dimensions to him

[@Rique7447]

Thrawn is a big dawg in Star Wars, he’s just so elegant in how he does things. By far my favorite character

[@thehiddenheretic]

If all we get is a poor retelling of the Heir trilogy it won't even make sense. Empire is defeated, NR goes on to be a functional government, Thrawn shows up and reminds them that remnants are out there that can and will try to reform the Empire or something like it, and then they win and forget again giving the First Order there chance? Once again, the absolute lazy effort in prepping the world building side before the sequels is going to come back to bite them in the ass.

[@gofannon1943]

#AskEck Disagree about the Ahsoka finale, didn’t think it’s direction was any different than the other episodes? But curious to hear why you think otherwise

[@barendbonda3010]

To be fair, after reading the new Thrawn Trilogy and comparing it to Rebels I do kind of get Thrawn. The last book was all about a mission so tense and there were so much at stake for Thrawn. The mission took I believe like days in a row where he couldn’t do anything but work day and night. AND Palpatine was very much not happy with Thrawn at that time so he legit feared for his live a bit. The book ends when he just completed the mission, was probably stressed the fck out, tired, was probably going to be executed by Palpatine, before out of nowhere getting the call: ‘Yo come and Squash this rebel uprising on Lothal real quick’. Before getting teleported the fck out by Ezra. Man had like NO time or energy for these annoying ass rebels defeating an annoying ass incompetent gouvernante. And having to step in. Also while Palpatine is like; ‘yo lemme convince to this kid the dark side real quick’.

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

"Space Satan" ?! - lol. Nailed it. The million ship navy hiding in the water was flat-out ridiculous. It would have been FAR better if he had been hiding out in "Centerpoint Station" where there are automated ship building resources. He could even have hooked up with Lilith there for extra power, binding her because no one else can. Honestly, sometimes these plots seem like it came from children with crayons: No one is saying.....Ummm.....does this make sense? Could it be better? What holes are there?

[@shannonmcstormy5021]

And the original Thrawn books had those cool, anti-force creatures hanging around him, him activating super-soldier robots, and so on. In other words, it was pretty good and hung together well.

[@antonwibisono3798]

I and many others have said this before but it bears repeating. "Disney and the talentless hacks working for them aren't currently smart enough to write about a layered character like Thrawn and do him justice."

[@johnhodgson4216]

I just hope Thrawn doesn't get knifed...

[@mackenzieblair8135]

I no longer have faith in Filoni. The only series I’m excited for is Andor.

[@Soliderboy-04]

Why are all Star Wars fans so doom and gloom

[@HammerheadWasTaken]

​@@Soliderboy-04 I know right! Just enjoy the show...

[@caliperstorm8343]

What made you lose faith in Filoni, if I may ask? For better or worse, he is the one who most closely follows George Lucas’ vision of Star Wars. He’s made some terrible content, but also some of the best in the franchise, and I think anything he’s in charge of has an above-average chance of at least being good.

[@mackenzieblair8135]

@@caliperstorm8343 He retcons on a whim. His obsession with including Ahsoka in everything is borderline uncomfortable. Shoehorning her into everything just makes the universe feel even smaller. I mentally checked out of Mandalorian when it started becoming a launch vehicle for an extended universe of spinoff shows. His and Favreau’s handling of SE3 of The Mandalorian was abysmal. Ahsoka was mediocre. Kenobi was terrible. I won’t even mention the Pre-Episode I show that got cancelled. The way he’s handled being a creative director has been incredibly unimpressive. His body of work just doesn’t leave me confident in his ability to deliver. I also believe his role in The Clone Wars has been grossly exaggerated. There are plenty of video essays analyzing that. Oh, and I think his taste in headwear is terrible.

[@ford_prefect1656]

I never had faith in Filoni in the first place. The Clone Wars was one of the most damaging pieces of lore to the overall outstamdimg multimediaproject that was RotS

[@benellison5668]

Blue Data

[@backmoonthe2nd]

I'd say that Thrawn at this point wants to return and retire. Lars's portrayal of the character is showing that i think. He's got older, has little time left to do what he wants. And if the dark side hasn't corrupted him, i'd say that he'll come back, fight a few battles, and gets out when the time comes.

[@i-evi-l]

You know how Deadpool is an Antihero? Legends Thrawn is a perfect example of an Antivillain. He's a bad guy that does things for the better even if his actions are still evil to a good extent.

[@Cole_1]

How can you legally make those stickers? Wouldn’t Disney send you a cease and desist? Like if you commissioned a Mario sticker wouldn’t Nintendo try to do something about that?

[@BlargBlarg-z7k]

the Thrawn in the books is closer to a Klingon with less blood lust. I actually like this version and have used it to base my Star Trek Online Thrawn character on.

[@kaleiohu]

The problem with using Thrawn is that writers can only write characters slightly more intelligent than themselves. The greater that delta the more effort it takes to pull off. I don't think Disney/Filoni had any grand plans when they brought him in, they just needed a popular villain. Filoni does not take care of other creator's toys as well as his own.

[@MrBazBake]

Even Thrawn's creator couldn't make him work past half a book.

[@jakewheeler6014]

I'm much more a fan of villain Thrawn and i liked that he was a straight up evil guy in rebels and i'm happy we're continuing that. We need good evil villains and not a bunch of morally grey villains.

[@danielstrang4999]

#AskEck If Disney had directly adapted Expanded Universe books into a series of movies instead of de-canonizing the EU and making their own Sequel Trilogy, what stories would fit into a three-movie arc? Are the Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Empire, and New Jedi Order compatible with each other to be turned into 3, 6, or 9 movies?

[@MrBazBake]

The EU was NEVER CANON. Lucas is on the record in interviews saying it at least a half dozen times. The EU only existed to keep the merchandising license alive. It existed to sell toys. The books and comics all contradicted each other, there was no coherent canon. It was Visions. That's it. That's all it ever was.

[@felps_4500]

​@@MrBazBake It was more canon than anything Disney could come up with, and at least most of them were good stories, also Lucas Film had a whole f.king division that made sure most stories in the EU fit the goddamn canon, so don't come up with this bs of "there was no coherent stories" because there was, and just like you said, it kept the franchise alive unlike whatever the FK they're doing with it right now Stop defending a multimillion dollar company for their lack of creativity (and literally everything else as well)

[@tatepalmer1997]

Factions compared idea sci fi insect swarm. Such as Tyranids, Arachnids, Zerg, Rachni, Terminids.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Not exactly insects but wraith are close to it in terms of style. Replicators are robotic but like insects too.

[@FlakFactory]

he def gona be written badly and not be able to beat Hera some how his point is prob go be to get the clone of palatine but it fails or something

[@BapyTheSnowman]

the Maul Skull Emoji looks fire

[@SithScorp]

KENNEDYFILM Star Wars needs to be thrown out in totality and Ahsoka is no exception.

[@unrelentingawesomeness7501]

you were right. Halo infinite probably needed a battle royale

[@TerminallyChill85]

Thrawn was terrible in Ahsoka. He kept losing over and over and always said it was part of his plan. Couldn't find Ezra, only a short distance from his allies. More abysmal Filoni writing.

[@FalconX_Productions]

#AskEck I've been watching you for a few years now. Absolutely love your content. I watched Star Wars for the first time in 2020 (it was Episode V), when I was 9 or 10 at the time. Afterwards, your content really boosted my interest in Star Wars. I wanted to expand my knowledge and understanding of Star Wars Legends, or generally the non-canon side of Star Wars (the stuff not in the movies or TV shows). I wanted to ask where to start and which books to read in what order. I do hope you see this comment. Keep up the great work!! Sincerely, Falcon

[@SkyBlueFox1]

I realize I'm not Eck, but I figured I'd toss my two-cents out there, just in case you're interested. :U Anyway, there's a lot of good places you could start with Legends. It really depends on what medium you're interested in, and what you're most-interested in learning about. Books and games are probably the biggest and easiest way to go, mostly because they're still mostly-accessible to a modern audience. If you want my suggestions: there's no better place to start than with the original Thrawn Trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command). I still see all three sold in bookstores and airport shops all the time, and they're legit some of my favorite books I've read in recent years. The TT was kind of the catalyst for the EU as a whole, so it works very well as a jumping-off point. There's also the X-Wing books, which I haven't read, but are presumably more focused on the rebellion/non-Jedi side of things. I've also seen them show up in bookstores and airport shops alongside the Thrawn books, which I personally take as a good sign.

[@FalconX_Productions]

@SkyBlueFox1 thanks a lot! A lot of good suggestions that I will surely check out

[@Isaac-rz2hs]

Yes, the classic music is back!

[@Kiwiman-e6h]

#askeck what is the correct way to spell AskEck

[@EckhartsLadder]

like you did there at first. #askeck

[@OmegablueWolf]

The point is that he loses and sets it up for palpatine to magically conquer the galaxy in a week come Episode 9 or what ever....at this point i dont much care any more.

[@CharileWaffles]

#AskEck Do you believe that during the events of the original trilogy and certain parts of the Mandalorian universe, did Luke Skywalker encountered members of the Ghost crew (or other rebels who were familiar with them) and gained knowledge about the Jedi Kanan & Ezra Bridger, and his disappearance after Star Wars Rebels? And, do you think that with his return following the Ashoka series, there’s a possibility that he might join Luke Skywalker’s new Jedi order?

[@itsLeels]

#AskEck I have a question. What were the ships destroyed over the new republic capital durring episode 7 durring Starkiller base shootings it’s main weapon?

[@Himanshu2090D]

#AskEck I had a doubt, how could the Sith become force ghosts, essentially binding their souls to certain objects or places. If so, why wasn’t it seen as an alternate to the jedi way of becoming an apparition of the force.

[@GOCAPSDMV]

Those stickers are fire tbh🔥!!

[@beatspopo]

all and all as long as the sequel exists anything that comes before it is considered fillers and not important because we already know what's has happened in the end... like seriously they will kill thrawn for the sake of not contradict the sequel.. it would be dumb enough for him to reappear after the sequel too

[@Alpha_Digamma]

It all leads to Jake Skywalker and Thrawn didn't play any role in the First or Final Orders...so what's the point?

[@babwej.7906]

Thanks for bringing home back. the different music leaves a bad taste in mouth. thanks!

[@julianreinhardt-lo8mp]

Top comment is gay

[@Braytech_Official]

We gotta get these numbers up

[@haidermalik5744]

LMAO

[@janahinrichs9107]

Congrats on coming out ! 🎉😊

[@josephjones7020]

Well why shouldn't it be!?

[@CelticAkumathefirst]

Congrats coming out

[@psiben99]

*Cheers return of Resonance*

[@gavinlopez7302]

#AskEck Were there any negative economic effects on the galaxy as a result of the fall of the empire

[@JessieCaceres-i1m]

Nice intro

[@ekos8282]

The grysk will not be mentioned or anything from books will be referenced. Books do not exist in tv star wars.

[@OveToranger]

It's almost as if the Expanded Universe was a coherent universe where storytelling was the purpose AND you had to work within the limits given by the creator of that universe...hmmmm ! Disneys Wars in the Stars in NOT Star Wars and they've just taken some names and flubbed it together to appease the "old fans" and the writers main purpose is (besides self) insert their views and identity-politics. GFCs - especially Pablo - he sucks and DEFINITELY doesn't know his job !!!

[@uwaizbahadur]

#AskEck How successful do you think a series of animated films would be for star wars? Lucasfilm animation have produced some really great episodes for Disney plus in the bad batch and Clone Wars. Some 90min films in the same animation style, maybe even straight to streaming could do really well. Could even get those unreleased Clone Wars arcs.

[@JustPanda2305]

#AskEck Seeing the slaughter of the nightsisters, are there even any of them left during the New Republic Era?

[@rat-rq5qv]

Feels blessed to be this early

[@mackstro]

Canon Thrawn. Warning! No Nohgri

[@Callmethe-fishy]

#askeck How did the bothans create their spy ring and how did they keep it so strong during the empire

[@cd5sircoupe]

#askeck If we assume the Thrawn plotline is still the main thing going on in the live action Mandoverse and we also assume they were truthful about Skeleton Crew tying into the rest of the Mandoverse on a deeper level than Vayne the pirate, could we see Thrawn potentially sieze At-Attin? If they plan on loosely adapting concepts from the original book trilogy, I can see an argument being made for the At-Attin mint taking the place of the Katana fleet of dreadnoughts if we go by that train of thought. I kind of expect the New Republic to treat the planet like a black site, I do not think they would want news of this place getting out to the wider galaxy, better keep it under wraps. Thrawn gets his hands on it somehow in some capacity for a time, serves the same leveraging power as him getting like 70% of Katana fleet. He's either gotta convince Shadow Council he's alive & worth investing in or he's gotta get his hands on war material, both vehicles & personnel. Not gonna do much with a busted ass ISD & a bunch of zombies.

[@mpnuorva]

Eeh, it's Filoni. He isn't exactly know for sticking to other people's stories, which is why I always found the idea that he'd be adapting the Thrawn trilogy unlikely. More likely he's going for an original story with the same time period and some same characters like he did with the Clone Wars.

[@cd5sircoupe]

@@mpnuorva I think I should have put more emphasis on the word "loosely" in my post.

[@tarotreadingsbysteven8545]

Why they got Thrawn looking like the love child of Elon Musk and Commander Data? 😂

[@captainbat37]

Probably a hot take but I think Dave filoni dosnt respect star wars lore he just respects his creations for no reason he changed things in clone wars retconing really cool stories like changing the name of the sith homeland and the changes to the start of bad batch compared to the kanan novel there are other examples of him pointlessly retconing cool stories

[@daegon1985]

Bro, are you having an existential crisis?

[@Cyro_2235]

Filoni will always stick to HIS infantile, primitive interpretation of a character, he doesnt care about what others did with them. And i highly doubt he has ever read any Thrawn-Book (or any book at all...), so i am 100% sure that Thrawn will try to attack the new Republic with other Remnants and more Nighttrooper-Zombies and then get defeated by Ezra, Hera and the Mandalorians (because they need to be in everything now i guess).... this is propably the star wars movie i've been LEAST lookin forward, and honestly: It could be cancelled and i wouldnt care. Propably would prefer if it was cancelled.

[@simpletown323]

#askeck Do you think the Star Wars EU could have ever stayed canon after Disney's purchase of Star Wars? I think disney had no choice BUT to wipe the slate clean in order to have room to make Star Wars for the big screen and TV. Things like Chewies death in the EU was insane and the EU would have caused more problems than it would have solved for the Star Wars story group.

[@razorburn645]

Uh son, they could absolutely have kept it and just trimmed it in places to fit together better or change certain things. They would have had tv series and movies for decades if they did and you whinging about Chewie's death when Disney killed off Han as well as Luke.

[@MrBazBake]

This isn't Disney's fault. Lucas decanonized the EU in the early 90's the moment it was created. 😂 "Howard tries to be consistent but sometimes he goes off on tangents and it’s hard to hold him back. He once said to me that there are two Star Trek universes: there’s the TV show and then there’s all the spin-offs. He said that these were completely different and didn’t have anything to do with each other. So I said, ‘OK, go ahead.’” -- George Lucas, Total Film, May 2007 There is no slate to wipe. The EU was Elseworlds. It was Visions. It was licensed fanfiction for people to enjoy while Lucas came up with the REAL stories and ignored them. Edit: It is important to emphasize Lucas only let them have an EU because he promised Lucas could completely ignore it. There would never have been an EU if it actually mattered to the movies and TV. Lucas never would have let it exist if that were the case. So you can either be mad that they let you enjoy an EU that never mattered to the main stories at all, or you can be happy that George Lucas didn't stop the EU from existing and let you have a tiny corner of fun possibilities that were never going to matter to the main story. You can't do both. It's one or the other. 😐

[@razorburn645]

@@MrBazBake That just makes the fact that Disney keeps stealing from it more pathetic. For something none Canon Disney sure loves using it's characters stories (in lazy way).

[@simpletown323]

@razorburn645 buddy, im not talking about what Disney has done since they wiped the eu from canon. We all agree they fucked a lot of it up and the sequel trilogy is ass. If they kept Legends canon, then they'd really only be able to either make adaptations of stories that have already been told, or they'd have to write stuff that somehow fits in with all of legends. The other thing is, what's easier? Wiping all of the EU from canon and having a clean slate, and then over time bringing the legends stories back into canon; or, keeping all the eu canon and then meticulously putting out press releases decreeing which books, comics, games, etc are not canon? Let's also not forget that Lucas literally wrote story treatments for the sequel trilogy which would have likely conflicted with the EU. So from a business standpoint, NOT A FANBOYS standpoint, was wiping the eu from canon necessary? Id argue it was but then they went and fumbled every decision after the fact. Besides, if you love rhe EU, it's not gone anywhere, you can still enjoy it and have it be your headcanon. I don't even think Lucas considered any of the EU canon either

[@razorburn645]

@simpletown323 Make stories already told? So. How many franchise have been made off of books? That didn't matter and as for the EU not going anywhere, only an imbecile would think that based on Disney's behavior.

[@ElateRug]

is there really a point tho?

[@nameynamename3758]

grand admiral musk

[@michealshelton2133]

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[@EckhartsLadder]

thanks for 7 years subscribed!

[@nikhilanoop9707]

And i don't even watch this channel that often lol

[@Skyfuu]

Hello!

[@stratometal]

I prefer Thrawn as an evil socio/psychopath just throwing his weight behind the empire for his own personal purpose. The whole "I'm trying to save my people" is blegh. Yes someone unique, with penchant for a twisted sense of ethics or whatever, but evil nonetheless, scary competent which is what makes him such a great archenemy. The penchant for all of these writers to make their bad guys compelling through some humanizing arc is just tiresome. Thrawn as a true villain character is far more compelling than whatever they tried to do later in the books. I like Rebel's Thrawn and Asoka Thrawn was good. More of that please.

[@gaetan4164]

Yeah I agree. He's a devoted fascist who deeply enjoys proving thay he is more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone else. He's evil but contrary to so many narcissistic villains he can put his feelings aside to some extent in order to get a bigger payoff and that's what makes him dangerous. I don't think he needs more motivation than that.

[@PhoenixGrov]

I think that dave Filoni is a fan of just key jingling and nothing else - Thrawn is smart and Lars Miklesen sound awesome, so show Thrawn acting and talking smart with Lars Miklsen's awesome voice. The character, much like hte series, has no point, so just things happening. Compare his tactics with any of the dumbest strategists in the entire series (canon and legends) and you will see that he is just a smart-sounding, dumb-person's idea of a smart person. regretable

[@neves5083]

I'm indeed gay

[@ryloc7567]

Being this early feels criminal

[@willclark7197]

It one is bot

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

stop it you silly goose, dave is not going to answer this and YOU KNOW IT! it will never be address because we know why... nostalgia, dont ask questions just consume product

[@Soliderboy-04]

Clam down boomer

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@Soliderboy-04 clam down? i think you were trying to say "calm" lol. maybe learn to spell before attempting to call out someone. hope this helps

[@nikhilanoop9707]

Yo im here

[@BrixarStudios]

#Askeck what was the strategic value of of these meaningless planets like Mimban or Kashyykkk? (Resources and political)

[@TheTripleAce3]

Kashyyyk provided labor for ds-1

[@Voltaic_Fire]

There's no point to anything Star Wars anymore, there's no story point they're working towards, they're throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks but nothing is. All the bad writing, the sickening agenda, and the refusal to give people what they want are all making Star Wars bounce off that wall and right into the bin.

[@ThePlecoPal]

Why are they making a movie??? None of this stuff is cannon anyway.

[@injusticecombohub2620]

Honestly the whole series has gone way off the right path. EU content should be cannon cannon EU the world is upside down for starwars mando Season 3 was confirmation the cancer of the new trilogy is our projected path for the SW story and that means the future of this franchise is bleak at best.

[@MrBazBake]

“Howard tries to be consistent but sometimes he goes off on tangents and it’s hard to hold him back. He once said to me that there are two Star Trek universes: there’s the TV show and then there’s all the spin-offs. He said that these were completely different and didn’t have anything to do with each other. So I said, ‘OK, go ahead.’” -- George Lucas, Total Film, May 2007 You're literally angry Disney didn't stab George Lucas in the back and make the EU canon. You are upset that Disney refuses to BETRAY George Lucas by ignoring his wishes and making the EU matter to the movies and shows. Seems kind of rude to George here.

[@injusticecombohub2620]

@MrBazBake do you have your head in the sands? Not only is your argument way off topic it's just wrong. George's ideas of the direct future of SW as well as EU content were all thrown out by disney immediately after they bought it. Disney has betrayed George in every way. George was literally conned into selling sw to a company he thought he could trust. As at the time, there really wasn't any reason not to trust disney. I'm not gonna launch into a 4-hour debate with you about this. There are countless reasons. I just wanted to share what's wrong with this franchise with everyone and that's disney was afraid of their own lore when they bought SW, they inherited legends which was GREAT however messy we can all agree. Disney didn't want to take time to analyze what's there and accept it / assign what's cannon from it. No, they took the lazy way and wiped the board. Now we have this mess and don't bring up george his work is done and built upon. It's the content and legacy were talking about that spawned from his work. We are not really talking about his work directly. George had Lil to do with EU content as he wanted sw to become self-sufficient when allowing other authors and creators freedom to come in and add to his franchise of lore that's what the EU is: the collection of lore that spawned from his work. And Disney has taken it dumped gasoline on it and lit a match. They robbed us of countless stories and don't say they didn't as they literally did. The proof of this is literally everywhere on the internet. Just look at kylo Ren. This character should have been Darth Caedus. That's 1 of a million examples of the negative impact Disney's new trilogy / surrounding lore had. A trilogy mind you that's completely woke garbage written by a collection of ignorant money hungry directors that had no clue what they are painting over top of. It amounts to what's basically the worst bought and paid for fan fiction ever published. And I'm not even fully mad at the dumb directors. They're a cog in the machine a very prominent set of cogs as the public has subjected them all tk ridicule for the last 3 movies being released just like the actors in the trilogy they are held accountable when they shouldn't like the actor for rose gets harrased for no reason. I'm mad if anything with people like kathleen Kennedy and bob Igor. As well as the people they have directly brought in. These are the people that have ruined SW. It's been people like Bob and kathleen and their direct colleagues that have made the poor decisions I don't agree with. And it may Not even be them they are just the heads of this scene the the public can see. For all we know it's the Suits making these decisions of profit. Disney's main goal by axing legends was to establish a clear cannon. But that ship sailed when they began retconning their own lore and stealing / re writing legends content. They show us the real reason to axe legends was laziness and ignorance to the great medium they had access to. The people at Disney that are truly in charge of how to handle SW after buying it made all decisions out of a goal for profit. The last thing Disney has cared about is giving us true SW content and telling a story we can care about. All they care about is baking more and more quick products that they can pump out to us for easy monetization money on their new streaming platform or maybe just maybe one day make a palatable movie. But reviews be damned as long as they make some money!. That's Disney they don't give 2 shits about any ip the own besides how they can profit. I mean this is a business profit is needed. Though producing legends novels and comics as movies and TV shows would have been way more lucrative than anything Disney has produced to date. Like a darth bane trilogy. Or a plageous movie. Cast keanu as revan already, like Disney is retarded; this ain't rocket science.

[@hotdstoneynonononono2225]

My question every time Disney makes more singlemom-starwar content, just stop trying to make star wars into trendy golden girls.

[@PineappleFury9999]

Second to the top comment loves liberals.

[@hannaa4425]

I'm sure they will emasculate him, like they have with every strong man character, the woke Disney writers can't help themselves.

[@metalhedd]

Filloni loves pure villain Thrawn and hates Bothans. That's just how it is. If the rest of his work wasn't as good as it was, I can't say I'd like the guy for those two reason.

[@reecealandavidroberts5388]

Why did he look like Elon?

[@Sphendrana]

Because evidently nobody knows who Lars Mikkelsen is these days lol. But also, you're not wrong. They did the look so poorly imo. Look at the cover art for his books (and forget what he looks like in Rebels) and try to imagine a better look for him IRL. It's NOT hard lol.

[@lorenzocardenas5071]

Thrawn is space Elon musk

[@joseolivas5396]

I'd rather have "watchable" "decent" "mediocre" Filoni content than the acolyte for sure. At the moment it is sad I just don't care about star wars 🥹