Why does Star Wars technology advance SO SLOWLY? | Star Wars Lore

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[@thorshammer7883]

*Attempt 331* Do the Forerunners vs The Imperium of Man (Halo vs Warhammer 40k) please.

[@vanaheimstories7530]

EckhartsLadder if the Autobots came to the Star Wars Galaxy, what would be the most likely scenario? #askeck

[@thomasmasters8434]

EckhartsLadder In Rogue One, during the battle over Scarif we see Red 5 get shot down. Is this why Luke is Red 5 in Ep 4 or is there another reason #askeck

[@corydorton2660]

Amazing video and I agree with your points

[@acrothans8638]

Because they reached maximum technogy at the gonk droid.

[@umcaraqualquer1926]

Gonk gonk gonk

[@JD99.100]

Acrothans still no gonk droid player able character in SwBF2. Disappointed

[@flograuper9294]

Mirai_Swish because they are to op.

[@kyletanking]

Gonk gonk gonk gonk gonk

[@galacticempire4691]

The gonk droid tooooooooo op and dope and powerful so its u cant play it on swbf2, its the final boss

[@legendred2798]

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the High Ground.

[@LuaanTi]

Isn't something like the Death Star the ultimate high ground? :D

[@legendred2798]

Then why'd Vader throw away his lightsaber to make Luke not have the High Ground in their final Duel?

[@jonathanduplantis1403]

When I met David Prowse everyone was doing Darth Vader impressions, poorly. I wanted to do that one, the unmodified one😄, because I have a really good James Earl Jones, but I realized that all those punks were just pissing him off.

[@docgonzobordel]

......or the power of plot armor / holes.

[@zoethepro7897]

btd refrence?

[@blurglide]

All the computers in Star Wars seem like highly advanced analog computers

[@Asteroid_Jam]

blurglide they are.

[@Asteroid_Jam]

There universe seems to have no scientific method. Just single people having bits of genius. Similar to are Ancient Greek Athenian thinkers.

[@EviltheNub]

That always bothers me in old sci-fi movies. They've got super advanced spaceships, but their computers are just little blinking lights and the green and black monitors I used to play Oregon Trail on in school.

[@dustinm2717]

I feel like that's probably part of the issue in starwars They simply never developed advanced computers If you look at it, everything in starwars is all crews of people using rather primitive control systems And apparently while they did develop advanced enough prpcessors to make intelligent droids nobody thought to repurpose that processing power for other things (or the hardware in droids is purpose built and not reprogramable, like logic chips hard wired together as opposed to general purpose and reprogramable computing hardware like what we have)

[@VIEW8472]

If by analog you mean redundant a.i.'s then yes , they are very advanced. Lol

[@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876]

meanwhile in warhammer 40k: we are still using this 10K year old ship because we literally forgot how to make new ones

[@Shamanteng]

I think W40k is worst lol: the number of times where they say that old plasma or terminator armor schematics are lost to the ages. The guys can engineer new Primaris but cannot recreate weapons or armors (like are they inept? Looking at you Adeptus Mechanicus)

[@hydro5378]

@@Shamanteng ineptus mechanicus

[@alphariusfuze8089]

Yep

[@lamb_link]

Hydro that’s fuck genius!! I love it! I’m a mechanicus fanboy, but god are they dumb sometimes.

[@Redfoxjack]

Make new ships sounds like hearsay to me

[@Ian-oe9wp]

No technological advances can defeat the high ground

[@jplegend98]

The jet pack

[@MandaloretheSavage]

.....Base Delta Zero.... the is no High ground after that.

[@vapurubiscure5306]

Hello there

[@readalotknowalot]

Sniper rifle.

[@cmdrgrantour3342]

A ladder

[@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT]

Empire: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@mide8845]

If so what need was there to replace the venators

[@BackSpace101]

More like if it's cheap, don't fix it.

[@zattlahabibi1137]

AH! Why is there poop in your mouth just because its not broke dont mean it cant be upgraded

[@possiblespy7598]

@@mide8845 because they were carriers, whereas the empires strategy revolved around capital ship firepower

[@robertonome2448]

That explains the whole death star's critical flaw thing

[@hydraphantakatheelectopus4196]

When you build something that can hold 25,000 people, you kinda want to hang onto it a while. With that said, the lack of hand / guardrails is a piece of tech that seemed to escape them.

[@Mythraen]

Yes, the tech of lacking hand/guardrails is very advanced.

[@manictiger]

Eh, it gets rid of the weak clones.

[@lilahdog568]

"Fuck Safety" -Emperor Palpatine

[@eddiesanchez1899]

They didn’t want their stormtroopers to lean on the rails.

[@ArchangelExile]

They probably aren't as dumb as Earth humans.

[@DaveC2729]

I always figured that every time technology reaches a certain point, they have one of their big wars and blast themselves back a few hundred years. Then there's a golden age... rinse, lather, repeat.

[@jasonbrophy5567]

I said that to my uncle years ago technology helps the rich live in leisure. War helps the everyday man advance and gain that technology. The rich have to give the poor help, otherwise they( the rich) will be overthrown. Drunk thought may be true

[@jasonbrophy5567]

The cycle will continue till the end of time

[@DaveC2729]

@@jasonbrophy5567 No, just until the end of the Living Force and all ability of living things to make use of it. The Force isn't an exception to the laws of physics, just another way to access them, and my theory is that it's finite; as more and more beings use the Force and more and more living planets are destroyed (and thus no longer able to restore it), the Force grows weaker, resulting in the difference in Force powers between eras... and the ultimate depletion of the Force, connecting the Star Wars universe to our own.

[@TheInsaiyan]

@@jasonbrophy5567 sounds like commie ideology. But might be true with corruption in goverment that dont regulate the market and allow monopolies where super rich can flourish and anger the average man

[@kapitan19969838]

That's... not how this works. Quite the opposite

[@figeon]

Remember the reaction of Obi-wan and Luke when they first see the death star? They couldn’t believe it. Seeing structures of that magnitude was unheard of at that time.

[@Petaurista13]

OR it was just about tossing tons of cash to build huge crap with huge self-destruction mehcnism of some sort. Few times.

[@iplaygames8090]

@@Petaurista13 deathstaroninator

[@idontknow5401]

@@Petaurista13 yes but this Point is to tigh that even the best computer of the galaxie can just shot through there,and some people might be say."But a farm boy with no military experience destroy that".With a unknown force That gives you some powers.And again."But how he get this".With training and fate.I think SW have some Christian propaganda.Sorry if sound "fan annoyin" .

[@palmberry5576]

@@idontknow5401 I had a stroke reading this

[@trillionbones89]

@@idontknow5401 You guys are ignoring Rogue One? It's a deliberate design flaw, but needed to be discreet enough not to raise attention. A 2m exhaust would've been great for a sneak attack and even for a semi-kamikaze horde of small ships it was possible. Luke was aided by the force after the first few attempts had failed, but it was not an impossible shot.

[@luciussvartwulf6630]

there's actually an even simpler explanation than all this. The removal of "planned obsolescence." See, tech moves really fast currently because a) we're still in the ground breaking stages and b) there's a constant need to replace tech we own with newer better tech because our older tech stops working past a certain point (in the case of iphones, because apple literally give the phone update commands to wreck its ability to function and force you to get a new one). However, in Star Wars, this doesn't happen. Tech is designed and built not just to last, but to last ages. There's cases where ships lost thousands of years ago are still completely functional. The Falcon is at least twenty to thirty years older than han solo himself, (meaning it's pushing almost 80-100 years by the time of Force Awakens or Legacy of the Force in the EU). And its fairly young as a ship compared to others. Imagine if your car had been made in the 1920's and was still running today and it was perfectly normal to drive it. this would cause an apparent "stagnation" in technology. If I could go out, buy a car from 100 years ago, and fully expect it to keep running for another 100 years with a bare minimum of maintenance, why on earth would i need something "better." Especially when said car could get me to anywhere on the planet in basically a couple hours.

[@Marshall_Thompson]

The reason why technological progress seems to be in a state of stagnation is simply because there's really no incentive to create anything new. .

[@marsbars4767]

Lucius Svartwulf The problem with that is we don't know when the groundbreaking stage ends so you're just assuming that's the case. You're also ignoring very obvious flaws that could easily be fixed such as having to actually use human soldiers to use canons when you can use AI to easily do it for you. It also took them very long to figure out that the placement of the bridge is actually a very bad design flaw so it's more likely the writers had something to do with it. You would need something better because you're at war and your very existence is at stake and even when it's not, you still need to think of the future and potential threats because you never know whats out there.

[@Keihryon]

Except, the Falcon acts exactly like a classic car when you don't have the money for a restoration...

[@elijahsellers3727]

The Hammerhead class heavy cruisers was used by the Old Republic for 5,000 years. They would simply retrofit any new technology using the same hulls and same design whenever they built new vessels.

[@joeylantis22]

bs... I’m still using tech from the 70s. This stuff isn’t made to break. Some breaks because it does, some can’t keep up with our new software etc, The iPhone argument doesn’t hold up either, The newer phones are lasting longer and longer than the older ones because their hardware is advancing faster than software. We’re teaching a plateau where tech growth is slowing. Yeah it’s becoming more everywhere, but we’re starting to struggle doubling it’s power every two years. Unless quantum computers take off soon we’re going to reach the physical limits of silicon chips and tech will plateau just like you see in star wars.

[@andershagstrom7608]

Real reason: Spin-offs separated from the main movies by thousands of in-universe years needed to have the same trappings, style, and tech of a Star Wars movie otherwise they wouldn't be recognizable as Star wars.

[@lordzaboem]

This video is discussing the in-story answer, not the behind-the-camera answer.

[@csquare111]

Truest answer.

[@RebSike]

in a perfect world the dates would have been retconned to make more sense. the "oh yeah this exact ship design hasn't changed in 40,000 years" thing has always annoyed the hell out of me. retconning the dates at this point though would probably not be worth the confusion.

[@NUFCMVFC]

That's it basically

[@XxWillScarletSoundxX]

That's still pretty dumb though

[@PhantomSavage]

When you've created hyperdrive to travel across the galaxy, bacta-tanks that can cure almost any wound or ailment, perfected cloning technology, energy shields, lightsabers, and a death ray that can pop an entire planet like one big, cosmic balloon... .. what left is there to innovate?

[@crobertplopper1444]

computers that don't take up half the room is a good start

[@actuallycantdoanything8179]

@@crobertplopper1444 Don't forget guardrails

[@User-nj9ti]

internet

[@CZ350tuner]

Phasers, disrupter cannons, Star Trek level shields (which are immune to turbo lasers & ion cannons), anti-matter based weapons, quantum based weapons, subspace based weapons, transporters, warp drive & warp speed capable missiles, Romulan enveloping plasma torpedoes, impulse power, etc.

[@IsaiahRichards692]

Here’s what I wish it was like in 1,500 BBY: The humans that originated on Coruscant have achieved interstellar travel for the first time. They only have exploration craft because they’ve never needed space-faring warships until now. The warriors went on to colonize the Mandalore System while the pacifists went on to colonize the Alderaan System. Some of the more daring humans built settlements in the Outer Rim, enslaved the native species and sold them to traffickers on Coruscant. The discovery of alien species and their local technology led the more ambitious humans on Coruscant to talk about one day making all of their home planet into one big Human Metropolis. The “primitive” aliens have different nations sharing single planets, have no spacecraft other than a few satellites and they still use projectile weapons instead of blasters. The fall of the Old Republic happens in 200 BBY instead of 1,000 BBY and the Roussan Reformation only lasts for 100 years until the Droid Invasion of Naboo.

[@toeray5864]

Look at how far technology advanced on Earth in the 20th century... it was the greatest leap in tech we've ever had and it's not close. I think that skews our perceptions of what is or is not a "decent" pace for technology to advance in media like Star Wars or even nowadays in the 21st century. Great video as always!

[@codename1176]

Chris Ray yeah when you get to Star Wars level of space tech advancement should slow as there is no real need for something completely different rather you see a heavy focus on making things more efficient

[@astrobot4017]

@@jamesstaggs4160 I think this is intentional

[@drewbryk]

This is a big question among economists who study productivity. Theyd agree with you, electricity was a real fluke, big winner

[@laggrenade863]

I disagree. I think technology increases exponentially. I do think that the 20th century had a lot of money put into engineering (most visible with nuclear and space programmes) but pure science didn't advance any faster.

[@tarroakh3562]

The Star Wars universe would be at least near level 1.8 to level 2.5 (estimated) civilizations, and mankind (us) is less than level 1.

[@mareootaku8840]

"The lack of wars in star wars" Never thought I've heard that

[@eds1942]

I think he means, major and Galactic wars. We don't really need to know about some territorial dispute between two peoples of star systems for control of some nameless gas giant in a neighboring uninhabited star system, in a small sector in the Outer-Rim that which has limited contact with the galactic community, that's threatening to spill over into a minor hyperspace trade route which might lead to a dip in stocks for some company that manufactures bargain hydrospaners.

[@tarroakh3562]

I want wars between galaxies next, for example The Empire, New Republic, Rebellion, and The First Order along with the Jedi Order with the Siths too (all combined) vs the Imperium of Man, the imperium would still win but let's think of the technological advances.

[@mareootaku8840]

@@eds1942 I dunno man, if a writer can make that interesting then I will see it

[@eds1942]

Mario Cesar Lerma Argueta They had small things like that in the ‘X-Wing / Tie Fighter’ games. Well, in Tie Fighter anyway as part of the Emperor’s campaign to bring “Peace and Order” to the Galaxy.

[@conspiracy_marine9238]

@@tarroakh3562 na not IOM use daot instead it would be over in 5 mins then

[@petterrong1590]

Puzzled me how technology in thousands of years advanced so slowly, yet the Empire managed to go from slowly building a giant space station with a planet-destroying laser that took ages to boot up and required emmense power from all of the station to work, during the time they were in command of basically the entire galaxy and had resources everywhere, to building an upgraded version of the cannon being deployed to hundreds of star destroyers in less than 30 years, all being done on a planet that was far outside the known regions of the galaxy and was hard to travel to, and probably didn't have anything near the same resources available

[@TheSmoshJuniors]

Petter Rong yeah it’s almost like the people at Disney are fucking stupid

[@silver_desperado]

It’s a plot hole

[@shprite781]

Not canon

[@petterrong1590]

@@shprite781 When did Episode VI and IX become "not canon"?

[@shprite781]

@@petterrong1590 do you want them to be canon? Everyone would rather call them not canon.

[@silaslithian5298]

My assumption is that technology stagnates in general within the Star Wars galaxy due to a few simple reasons, chiefly among them is that most peoples in the Star Wars galaxy do not innovate or push science because the cultures within Star Wars do not value it overly. Most cultures did not invent hyperspace engines- for the most part everyone was uplifted by another group who was also uplifted by another group who also may have been uplifted by another group. This uplifting cycle means that nobody ever innovates, merely purchasing from those who came before. And since as a whole most cultures through this method do not hold the sciences in high regard, there are few unique innovations. The other point of stagnation comes from usability of all things. Any development has to fit with other things that have already been developed. Imperial class ships were built to house V wings, then upgraded to the structurally similar tie fighters. Take for example, the international shipping container. Little innovation is needed because it has already attained something like perfection for its time and role. But some day there will be a need to change it. Then people will complain because all of the infrastructure up until this point has favored it. It will need some pushing to innovate in such fields.

[@briangriffin9793]

I would almost say that the drive to innovate is what is lacking. For example, the very same conditions that sparked the Industrial Revolution existed previously in history... the Roman Empire had a surplus of food, wealth, art, philosophy, and engineers... but it also had a surplus of manpower. Thus there was literally no reason for the Romans to develop a functional steam engine to accomplish what they already had a thousand slaves to do. So in the Industrial Revolution was driven by a need for more power output than the manpower could provide in Britain.

[@daefaron]

@@briangriffin9793 "We could improve this landspeeders speed but, it's fast enough for everybody's desires as is. How about we improve the navigation system and comforts instead?"

[@the_Kutonarch]

That's so true even today, we're already capable of building cars that can reach speeds of 1000kms, but except for concept cars no one is manufacturing them. After all, there's only a handful of places on Earth that you could possibly drive them at that speed, so what's the point of building them? Better to invest in softer seats and more cup holders.

[@tarroakh3562]

JUST TRAPSUKI, and Earth's circumference is estimated 24,000km (correct me if I'm wrong) so... why not invent food that regenerates instantly, it would be very satisfying, pizza anyone? 🍕

[@commanderknight9314]

Doesn't that break the law of conservation of matter and energy?

[@MrDoesntcare]

The rate of your work and its quality is fantastic

[@rogertorrez1798]

MrDoesntcare IKR?

[@weaver8874]

I just liked this comment with my boner....

[@SemNome-ds1qy]

Tau...

[@Vok250]

Technology stagnated when the emperor was forever bound to the golden throne. wait wrong universe.

[@davesboatingfishing]

ROFL. He finally got a text to speech device 😂

[@SonOfAFridge_]

Hol up

[@KiSSiNGKONTEST]

Technology does advance, but since six out of the nine core films focus on a ramshackle group of freedom fighters who take whatever they can get to wage guerrilla warfare against the government, we are primarily seeing protagonists in hand me down ships and junkyard scores, which are obviously gonna be outdated. The Original Trilogy has a decent amount of dialogue dedicated to the potential insufficiency of their ships because the Empire keeps upping their game.

[@yog7439]

Will you talk about the gonk droid class dreadnought?

[@BigGator5]

Link?

[@RichardHunslet1963]

Wtf is that?

[@palpatine3248]

RichardHunslet1963 it’s a really big gonk droid with guns on it

[@RichardHunslet1963]

@@palpatine3248 Is it fanon or is it an actual ship in the lore?

[@BigGator5]

Palpatine ...But why? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYucqn5pqLJ3i7c

[@TheSuperhomosapien]

I think our view of this is skewed because we live in a time of unprecedented technological advancement For most of human history progress has been slow. The bow was the most advanced military weapon humans possessed for about 30,000 years. The sword was in use for about 3,000 years. We just reached a point in history now where technological advancements lead to other advancements. This rate will probably slow in the next few centuries.

[@lucasrhys0363]

We’re running too fast, and eventually we will fall over.

[@Dark6997]

Even with modern technology the 50 cal is still being used today and the original iteration goes back the second world war. The current version if I'm not mistaken is a Vietnam war creation. Sometimes the old saying if it's not broke don't fix it applies

[@Maelstromme]

@@Dark6997 At the same time, most modern advancements in war is involved in surveillance-communication-precision munitions-and combined arms. It doesn’t necessitate major innovation in small arms, most pressure for development is taking place among hypersonic missiles, tracking systems, satellites, cloaking, and cyber warfare.

[@sitfish1113]

The rate that technology increases has always gone up exponentially though, the club was used for 100,000 years, the sword 3000, and the musket only a few hundred before it got outclassed.

[@Seriona1]

I would agree however humanity has exploded in the tech game in terms of human pacing. Just in the last 300 years, we managed to completely ditch everything that was normal prior that mark in time and technology has continued to explode up the chart. At this rate in time, we should be traveling planets in the next 300 years.

[@nathanielebie9184]

meanwhile, the final order mass produces death stars...

[@DarkSpice84]

Now technology advanced extremely fast in the last episode, as all the final order star destroyers carried a cannon with the power of the death star.

[@badbeardbill9956]

I was so hoping they’d bring the Star Forge back... would’ve neatly explained it. But no...

[@larryli6397]

They just used magic powers

[@mjkalasky2775]

While I can, to a certain extent, understand the down-scalling, where did they get the giant kyber crystals? Or, did they even use such things at ALL?

[@JacobA6464]

@@mjkalasky2775 Mashing them together? Im just taking a wild guess

[@HardcoreHalo]

I always noticed how the Dark Sides technology looks more advanced and overall more better looking.

[@gabrielclark1425]

"We're evil, not uncultured barbarians!"

[@chrisray5977]

Actually in 1-3 the dark side are working secretly with the light side, so same tech, 4-6 is only because they pretty much own everything in the known universe.

[@Olympus05]

Chris Ray in the galaxy*

[@TheShark447]

It looks more menacing for sure. More squared, better tech. All to intimidate and destroy their enemies while sending a message to their people. The republic ships are merely there to get the job done

[@chrisray5977]

@@Olympus05 yeah, that. Not sure why I said universe, lol

[@bcs2em625]

All I know is that when Luke Skywalker lost his hand, the prosthetic replacement looked a lot better and realistic (almost natural) compared to the ugly mechanized one a generation earlier that was given to his father, Anakin, to replace the hand he lost. Not all innovation needs to be completely tied to warfare. Domestic, medical and other applications (which, admittedly, we don’t get to explore closely in SW) may have been progressing along quite nicely war or no war.

[@badbeardbill9956]

Might have been more about money availability than anything. That and art style differences.

[@bcs2em625]

@@badbeardbill9956 I'm not sure I follow--explain. "Money availability" for who? Luke, the character or Lucasfilm Studios? What "art style differences" are you referring to?

[@zerothis23]

You might look at the advancement of medicine during the American Civil War. For example, in times previous, it was know that a person with shrapnel in their brain yet surviving, could experience change of symptoms for the rest of their lives, including death . The conventional wisdom was to remove the shrapnel, ideally removing it in reverse on the path it entered, as if the brain was like any other tissue. By the end of the war, trial and error and careful study had improved knowledge so that a surgeon with the latest information would know that attempts to remove the shrapnel would mosikely cause far more damage than the existing wound. Ironically, after Abraham Lincoln was shot, he heceived a mix of treatments based on new and old knowledge. Doctors did much additional damage. Though, the shot was fatal anyhow.

[@twistedyogert]

​​​@@badbeardbill9956 Anakin was a Jedi. You don't think that the Republic could spare the few extra credits needed for top of the line prosthetics? If anything, Luke should've gotten the crappier one since the rebellion was strapped for cash. Sure they had wealthy people and planets funding them but not compared to the bottomless pockets of the Republic or Empire.

[@maoistlily1432]

"Lack of wars in Star Wars" Eckhartsladder 2019

[@uiraideszen3223]

Yup

[@relanarkin7146]

Can’t wait until they finally make a Star movie

[@elias_xp95]

STARmistice

[@TheItalianoAssassino]

The Clone Wars is literally one giant war

[@chrisray5977]

@Koria Borein huh? 1 starts in a war that's been ongoing. 4,5,6 is literally about a war to escape the empire's grip, and 7,8 are second hand clones of 4,5,6 .

[@jediarchives7826]

War breeds necessity, and necessity is the father of change/technological advance. The Germans developed V2 rockets out of desperation to try and bomb the British, which paved the way for ICBMs, and most importantly, the rockets used in the Apollo program

[@Xo-3130]

However, by the end of it they couldn't develop any of their advance weapons. It is forgotten that eventually at certain point war begins to consume to much resources and destroyed enough of the infrastructure that you start to regress. This actually happened in legends with the New Sith Wars which utterly tore the galaxy apart, destroyed the holobet, and left untold number of worlds in ruins.

[@raviothethief8292]

Jedi Archives international business machines mathematical calculation norad now mainly civilian use

[@the_Kutonarch]

*"Necessity is the mother of invention"* is how the proverb is said in English.

[@joshbull623]

I just learned that the first satellite designs were from the military basically talking with scientist and asking if they could take their high powered telescopes and point them down at earth as opposed to out into space. War brings about all kinds of neat technology.

[@koolmckool7039]

@@kyletanking Let's also be glad he was inbred, and went mad at the right time. His generals might've done a better job than he did.

[@Nathaniel_Peterson]

The Star Wars universe has simply reached a technological ceiling. They already have hyper drives. How much more advanced could they possibly get?

[@jesterknight3837]

KillTheMethod lol true

[@mjkalasky2775]

@M Okuyucu Yeah. And better computer visuals. And inter-galactic, over interstellar, travel.

[@MrToast-sk9vn]

Thats what a lot of people thought before cars existed. One of the Wright Brothers even thought that no plane would ever cross between Paris and New York.

[@Kishan-yo8xr]

Dyson spheres ? Space elevators ?

[@river.m2010]

Phones!!!

[@florebulaon6245]

“Lack of wars in Star Wars...” lol

[@donkeykong4983]

Flore Bulaon lmao

[@fabiomorandi3585]

It's not so much lack of conflict, but the fact wars capable of affecting technological progress on a galactic scale are few and far between.

[@mail123619]

There is literally a war named thousand year war lmao star wars is full of war all the time in fact i wonder we're is the peace

[@Chriscraft-ug3sz]

Rony Ni have you ever watched Star Wars? There’s a 1,000 year peace before the movies even begin. There’s games that cover this. Prior to the millennia of peace, the republic was at war with the sith empire which fell apart around 1,000 bby

[@refmjbell8363]

@@Chriscraft-ug3sz The Sith Empire fell but there were still wars for example The Mandalorian Civil War was right before Episode I. There were plenty of wars that didn’t include Jedi or Sith

[@TachyonKing]

Star Trek: We have discovered this new planet full of sentient life, however, the prime directive forbids us from interfering, instead we shall let them develop and advance for themselves Star Wars: Lets blow up this planet lol

[@mememanfresh]

Star wars: lets help them advance

[@NeoPolitania457]

Star Wars: New Battlefield discovered!

[@jaredevans8263]

@Alexander Pate Yep. Basically guys like Ajunta Pall and Darth Andeddu

[@jaredevans8263]

@Alexander Pate I forgot about Exar Kun on Yavin! I also think Belia Darzu did a similar thing on Tython, though I don't know if she helped advance the population there or if she just used them as bait for her technobeast virus

[@jaredevans8263]

@Alexander Pate alrighty

[@erojerisiz1571]

Meanwhile in star trek: *one battle happens* *federation immediately begins to upgrade all their ships*

[@Shadow25720]

That's why the federation wins and the Empire loses. And also, the federation has better plot armor tech.

[@LordDarthHarry]

I hope that when the new canon starts seriously tackling the Old Republic era they portray the technology differently than Legends. Something to show that it is happening a long time before the main movies. For example blasters being large, clunky and quick to overheat, perhaps with kinetic weapons still being the norm but slowly being countered by weak kinetic shields that deflect bullets. Hyperdrives being too large to fit them on anything smaller than a corvette. Also starship shields being such a power drain that they can only be turned on for brief moments so you have to switch them on and off to intercept incoming barrages instead of having them on all the time. Things like that. The Old Republic really bothered me with it's setting really just seeming like a slightly reskinned Galactic Empire fighting a slightly reskinned Clone Wars era Republic with the technology sometimes even seeming more advanced. I mean even the Prequels vs OT show some technological progress with Hyperdrive rings for fighters becoming obsolete by the time of the empire.

[@mememanfresh]

No

[@sleepyllama3673]

Meme Man Fresh yes

[@darthnicholas8528]

I do hope canon’s Old Republic technology is on par with the technology shown in the Tales of the Jedi comics, several elements of which have already been canonized.

[@littlegloom]

I'm just waiting for them to get smartphones

[@garnknopf155]

there are never mobile phones. only portable terminals

[@shizukagozen777]

Oh hell no ! Lmao

[@malkavianstr450]

A datepad is practically a smartphone.

[@andrewmaclean9810]

The depth of the lore in the Star Wars universe is so mind blowing. Its like anything you could possibly ask already has an answer.

[@psicopato2460]

Wich is actually a problem I think, it's so much detail that makes things confusing and messy, specially when so much of it looks the same and doesn't stick to a specific theme

[@buck3336]

What I want to know is why the technology , weapons and armor of the old republic look so much cooler and advance than let's say after the battle of yavin?

[@Overlord3445]

the old republic had a lot more conflict plus a cold war with a very angry sith empire from the korriban genocide so there is more incentive to advance technology than the republic or empire which had no competition

[@bluetoothschizophrenic]

The most confusing thing about the tech in Star Wars to me: Communications. In the clone wars they had built in Comms to clone armor and small, thin, handheld communicators used by Jedi or other non-clone groups. But in the imperial era these became larger, not built in or attached to anything, and just in general seemingly inferior and i do not fully understand why

[@stealthystudios4129]

In legends the stormtroopers helmets carried a communication device. I do agree though Imperial technology is far less advanced then everyone else. It’s definitely due to them being created in 1980. Most likely

[@Sithbuilder]

In shows like rebels and comics Imperial Stormstooperd had comms in there head

[@PaulSpeed42]

My recollection: In A New Hope when Han and Luke came out of the Falcon in stormtrooper gear, they tapped their helmet to indicate that their comms were malfunctioning. Must have still been built into the helmets.

[@gordonf5553]

Bc 1978

[@RkadeProduction]

This guy knows more about the star wars universe history than I do about the real universe history... nice

[@danielyeshe]

I think he also knows more than those currently in charge!

[@grantgillum8768]

The history of our universe is almost certainly unknown to us, to the point that we likely don't even know 1% of said history. Why? Because we haven't had contact with any other intelligent life.

[@hi-nb5yk]

frw

[@psicopato2460]

@@grantgillum8768 and we only get information about big galactical events thousands of years after they happened, such as the birth of a Black Hole or that type of stuff

[@brendansoucy2220]

I think you can see an interesting divergence in technology in the Clone Wars animated series, when the Clone Army invaded Umbara, if I remember correctly. The civilization had technology (mainly ship-related) that was drastically different from anything seen prior, and that the clones could barely learn to fly.

[@palpablehen65]

rip general krell

[@koolmckool7039]

But come on. Everyone would want to fly those things.

[@dreamingflurry2729]

The old Sith under Revan had Interdictors (their main capital ships were interdiction capable, that's how Saul Karath was able to catch the Ebon Hawk), so if anything: The Star Wars galaxy LOST a lot of tech - only to re-discover it later!

[@chrisray5977]

I mean that's an ongoing event in Star wars, alot of tech is lost or destroyed and has to be rediscovered or found. For example cloning was basically lost, alot of the best cloning techniques were lost, and it was inevitably too expensive anyways.

[@The_Texas_Welder]

With intelligence like the Gungans, it's not hard to understand why.

[@Mike-me3sp]

Right? I'm surprised they weren't using f*cking square wheels if jar-jar is fit to be their representative.

[@seanl764]

It's funny how they are smart enough to build planet destroying superweapons for thousands of years , but not a decent AI aimbot to control their droid army lmao. In a realistic situations even yoda wouldn't be able to last 1 millisecond against a single battledroid that you expect a galactic civilization that advanced can produce...

[@samthomson3394]

@@seanl764 yes

[@Mike-me3sp]

@@seanl764 Agreed, the whole premise of the tech in the star wars universe is just utterly ridiculous.

[@manictiger]

Yes, meesa so stupid. Definitely not sith lord, hahaha. Meesa dumb dumb gungan, blah!!!! (Sticks tongue out and makes deer antlers with hands.)

[@sirdevonaire3249]

Why didn't the Empire conquor Hutt Space and destroy the Hutt Cartel? #askeck

[@rebelscum3900]

Sir Devonaire it was a waste of resources

[@prophetofbeans6781]

Not a ton of raw materials out there. I mean, Jawa Sandcrawlers are left over ore mining vehicles from after they figured out the hard way Tatooine was pretty barren. :/

[@Jfk2Mr]

In case of incorporating Hutt Space into Empire, Empire would have to face incredible corruption, so such operation would give next to no profit

[@prophetofbeans6781]

Plus, Palpy has the ability to hire seedy individuals, like in Empire, to do things that a SD showing up on your doorstep can't do. Aka: being subtle. So keeping that option open seems advantageous for the myriad of systems in the backwater tier of space that doesn't normally rate having a SD deployed there. Good gravy i love talking about star wars! And i love this channel!

[@griffinflyer77]

In fact, while the Empire avoided outright war with the hutts, they did place blockades to prevent drug trafficking between the two states.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

"When you accept ones path, you blind yourself to all alternatives. Nazara told you this. "Your technology is based on the Technology of the Mass Relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the lines we desire."

[@Nathren]

I like your comment 8/8.

[@ScottTangents]

Because Star Wars fans and writers alike are obsessed with the original trilogy.

[@cemg.1938]

Which is a shame. The franchise will never be able to move to something completely fresh and and new with all the fans that just demand a variation of the Original Trilogy aesthetic.

[@Leshaun2002]

It will and is making the franchise die

[@EggGames]

Cem G. You say this because you didn’t grow up with the original trilogy, where everything was simpler

[@VIEW8472]

Or it could be because its aimed towards kids and not adults that would understand science or mechanics for that matter.

[@ihaveacoolpfp8859]

@@VIEW8472 yes

[@Reyma777]

This video made me think about how great KOTOR was. I now believe Star killer Base in the Force Awakens would have worked much better plot wise as a rip-off of the Star Forge.

[@Mayordomo32]

Rey S would've helped explain how they built up such a fleet

[@Reyma777]

Connor I would have made the First Order much smaller in size and the Star killer base ancient technology that they found. The base would consume stars to fuel itself and acquire raw material to produce ships and droids.

[@spydrebyte]

Thought this while watching it, but nope, another boring death star... But its bigger this time! at least this can be used if they ever do a KOTOR series, though, theyd probably butcher that too.

[@KaosNova2]

@@spydrebyte Statement: It would be Bantha Poodoo, meatbag.

[@poopsanchez6449]

There’s this thing that happened in the new Thrawn books. Thrawn was fighting an old droid armada and while the droids were outfitted with remarkably outdated weapons and stuff, the Imperial Navy purely just forgot how to fight it. They forgot how to deal with them, and nearly lost the fight if it wasn’t for Thrawn doing his thing.

[@tristenlove4297]

Just imagine the amount of man power needed to create those behemoths like wtf

[@Halo321x]

Tristen Love or robots ?

[@mage3690]

@@Halo321x nope. If the gun turrets are manually aimed, I don't see how factories won't have a couple million Rosie the Riveters working on that sucker to get it done.

[@jakubmike5657]

Nothing. Literally almost nothing. Look at it this way: currently powerful countries are able to create carriers that would take the entire production level of a country four hundred years before (and I am not even talking about tech level, just the amount of labour and resources involved) Now consider that republic has thousands of worlds, if anything fleets are very small. One Dyson sphere capable system would be able to churn out fleets of tens of thousands of ships and support population of hundreds of BILLIONS. In civilisation of this size it would actually be expected for fleets to consists of hundreds of deathstars.

[@noximilien9997]

What about the time in the old republic when society nearly collapsed? Didn't that cause technology to regress? I always thought the reason the technology was similar was because they were effectively trying to get back to where they were

[@blackshogun272]

You're talking about the Republic Dark Age ? That time span of centuries where the Sith ran rampant killing Jedi and each other as the Republic was literally just a shell of what it once was and a bunch of solidified sectors. At that point it wasn't even call Galactic and just "The Republic." The Jedi Order almost completely turned to mush and had Jedi becoming Kings, Lords and Princes of planets and sectors for a bit 😎

[@noximilien9997]

@BlackShogun27 yeah that's the one. Could've sworn it was one of the reasons for the "stagnation" that Eck was talking about

[@hi-nb5yk]

yek

[@thoughtfulinsanity3050]

Without watching: Because star wars has a unique identity tied to its technology and so they want to make sure not to deviate too far from that identity, even if exploring events ages apart from the original trilogy.

[@tomatensoup190]

I totally agree with this. While the video searches for answers within the universe, your answer focusing on the world building is defenitely true. Star Wars ships and technilogy are iconic.

[@Farzlepot]

This video *colossally* underestimates how long 20,000 years is.

[@Lahiss]

>January good month in KZbin. Are you some sort of space wizard?

[@godzilla5006]

Could the First Order defend themselves from a 318 meter tall Godzilla Earth in Starkiller base?

[@codename1176]

Godzilla Boi I feel like yes if they could use orbital bombardment or strafing runs

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

Nah.

[@sombodi200]

This is the first order we are talking about.. They won't stand a fucking chance against godzilla.

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

Exactly. Pretty much every incarnation could annihilate them.

[@galacticempire4691]

No because of hux

[@caseyr6933]

I feel like it was suggested at one point that a lot of technology found in start wars is based on tech from lost civilizations but the base science behind this tech isn't fully understood. That could also be the reason behind suffer slow technological advancement

[@godzilla5006]

Best robots Forerunner machines Chariot Faro (HZD) reapers Cybertronions (Transformers)

[@theredpillneo2296]

Godzilla Boi oh yeah yeah gonk droid

[@ChaseBlackmoon]

Cybertronians, Transformers is the one true religion.

[@silentdrew7636]

Needs geth

[@silentdrew7636]

Also Data, he's cool

[@patrickdonovan2323]

They are no match for our droidekas

[@saviouragt9568]

If this was in real life, there will still be petrol cars in 40,000 AD.

[@NoTimeAllTime]

In the year 40k there is only war....and we are calling petrol “Promethium” now

[@caav56]

@@NoTimeAllTime Promethium is closer to the diesel fuel, though, if the descriptions are to be believed.

[@cr45h20]

Too bad oil will run out in the year 2065

[@pauljs75]

@@cr45h20 Chemical processing and carbon chaining or cracking just means it's not too big a step to go from carbohydrates to hydrocarbons and get back to specific petroleum products. A bit more energy intensive than pumping out of the ground, but already proven feasible although usually unnecessary at this point in time.

[@reall0g1c5]

I can only hope

[@stevenscott2136]

The Force has been hinted to have some sort of "will", even if not full sapience. For reasons of its own, it scrambles ideas that don't suit it -- you get an idea, but it's not Force-compatible so it just drops out of your brain. It might not even be any sort of "intent" -- more like certain brain-signal patterns react destructively with the Force, and just get "washed out", like a distant radio station being overwhelmed by a powerful local one on the same frequency band. If you moved to SW universe, you would soon forget about computer-guided gun turrets and other such ideas. You'd still know your universe was different, but you wouldn't be able to hold the specific ideas in your brain.

[@indianajones4321]

Because only Palps had UNLIMITED POOOOOOOWWWWWWEEEEERRR

[@josephstalin6549]

Go back to the WWII week by week series mate

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing OR Nebula Star Destroyer VS Pelion class Star Destroyer

[@johnbasterson7938]

In the Star Wars universe all technology is reverse engineered from The High Ground.

[@bisharp5068]

“Before I let you go” *closes browser*

[@invidofinp1828]

The Swtor dreadnought is still an amazing design...love that thing.

[@bruhdabones]

They’re all in the same game, and there is but one tech tree

[@yersiniapestis1039]

Use mods

[@ValorPhoenix]

Two other factors to consider: Technology created to counter other technology, and advanced tech might use a resource that is now gone or too expensive to use. A specific example would be how screwed they would be without a steady bacta supply.

[@bigfellaoo7]

the reason is that thousands of years ago tech advance as far as it could go. over time only small improvements could be made. a wall of a sorts was hit.

[@Petaurista13]

Not really, but as far as they needed. We have some arts of science being at peak now (f.e. anatomy of healthy human is perfect, we won't find any new organs I guess), but tech can always advance. Point is: what for. F.e. implants. If they work perfectly as real limbs, eyes etc. all they can do is to make them cheaper or more durable/requirung less maintance. After that? Putting flashlight in finger? Holographic game console? It's like pencil. Actually pencils. They've invented graphite in VI centaury and throug ages all we invented was to put rubber at the end (plus ergonomic grip, but only some people like it). In LXXXIX centaury we will probably havesame pencils if people will still write/draw on paper. In MCMXCIX centarury same thing.

[@lucianobattistoniromero4618]

@@Petaurista13 We invented mechanical pencils tho

[@Techburn997]

Adding to this they may have also hit the limits of what they could do with the materials available in universe, at least for mass manufacturing. Technologically they have the knowledge-base to make improvements beyond what is commonly shown but the materials, alloys and other such things might not be scale to the levels of manufacturing output of a place like Kuat Drive Yards or other companies of such scale. They would certainly be produced and sold (Bacta is a good example, albiet for medical uses) but said products would typically be considered as a boutique item or custom upgrade as compared to a mass manufactured ship subsystem. It also allows for the things we see in universe where heavily customized ships and weapons are able to massively outclass their initial design specifications but would probably cost much more then purchasing multiple vessels of the same type in stock configurations.

[@TerMau01]

@yo pierre what organ did they find?

[@michaelmartin9022]

Star Wars has had FTL travel, shields and "lasers" longer than we've had domesticated horses, could be there's simply nowhere more to go. On Earth cars haven't really advanced that much, either. They might go faster, be safer and have more luxuries, but the actual fuel consumed per distance has barely improved since the 20's... an Austin Seven from the 1920's or a Vauxhall Corsa from the 2000's acheived roughly the same MPG figures, just the latter could cover that distance a bit quicker. Fuel efficiency has started to climb in the 2010's, but that's mostly due to hybrid cars having a second engine with a different power source, simply "resting", the standard one, or trickery like advanced computer modelling and wind-tunnel anaylsis to make loads of tiny aerodynamic improvements on cars. Also the US Military expects to be using B-52's until they're around 75-80 years old. Proper "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The same can be said of seagoing ships, too. Quite a few military ships are on their umpteenth refit, if the hull is sound it's easier to upgrade an old one that build a whole new one. The ARA Belgrano, controversially sunk in the 1982 Falklands War, was originally a US Pre-WW2 ship, and veteran of Pearl Harbour.

[@EnclaveTrooper1]

There's miniaturization and optimization. Look at the sizes of the engines and compare their output. Modern engine that weighs 8 kg gives roughly the same power as 80 kg engine from 1910's. So, when there's nowhere else to go, the ships and weapons should become smaller and more compact while retaining their power and effectiveness - thus, "new" star destroyers should become smaller and at the same time gain firepower compared to their huge predecessors. Smaller size means better maneuevering. Also the bigger the thing is, the more it costs in sheer materials used for its construction. Battleships went "extinct" for a reason. It isn't the case because on screen it's difficult to show. It's easier to gain the audience's awe by producing SUPER HUGE STARSHIPS to the point of insanity to display power and progress of technology, especially that the said progress is never the main point of the stories.

[@michaelmartin9022]

@@EnclaveTrooper1 Oh I dunno, with the sea-going examples a modern carrier or even nuclear sub dwarfs some of the old battleships. I've visited the Mikasa near Yokohama in Japan and she is really not that big. And the Empire strikes me as more of a "grr look how powerful we are" type of power. A single Star Destroyer already had the ability to render a planet's surface uninhabitable with it's standard weapons, the Death Star was a totally pointless extravagance the resources of which could have been used to build thousands more Star Destroyers. Maybe the rebel fleet wouln't have been so elusive then, either!

[@Kiyosuki]

I definitely think its a matter of technological stagnation, or plateauing I think is more accurate, regardless of who's in charge. Kind of reminds me a bit of a situation like Dune, or if anyone here's read the manga the Five Star Stories, where a galactic civilization has reached such a level of technological development that all the developments of necessity have long been accomplished already, and some technology is already becoming lost technology. If one really takes a moment to think about it, in a situation where a galactic civilization forms, longer and longer periods of technological plateauing are kind of inevitable just because of the sheer size of and scope of the whole thing. If a civilization's technology has progressed to the point that galactic civilization is even possible, it's kind of "there" already. The fact that the most prominent technological development that seems to occur during the Star Wars saga is weapons, I think kind of says a bit of a statement itself. It's not that technology couldn't advance in more minute, situation to situation instances like starcraft improvements, superior sources of power etc but big, sweeping technological development just seems like it'd come to a snail pace at one point. Fast growth of technology is usually attributed in my opinion to necessity, and a lot of the Star Wars universe' necessities seem to be more social and political than quality of life or urgency based, hense the bigger periods of technological growth being war. (though even there, technology doesn't seem to advance nearly as fast as one would expect, ship designs seem to last a very very long time aside from revisions and/or refits.) Technology of any sort goes through periods of rapid growth, especially if something ground breaking has been found or a new urgent necessity comes around the corner...but generally speaking technological development of any sort *is* inevitably going to plateau for other, often times longer periods of time. And this is on the scale of a galaxy as big as Star Wars'. To be honest, I do think it's an aspect of the Star Wars universe, whether it'd be Legends lore or official lore, that does go untalked about most of the time...yet I think the idea of it kind of quietly looms in the background of everything about Star Wars' so called "used Universe".

[@filanfyretracker]

the one technology Star Wars seems to lack is proper point defense. like a heavy blaster version of the Phalanx CIWS or on something as powerful as an ISD, A turbolaser CIWS. I mean imagine BRRRRRT fire speed meets turbolaser power in a CIWS platform.

[@Dampfaeus]

Could easily be an energy- or material-problem. Either you'd need a way-to-big power-source, or your platform could melt after BRRRRRT'ing Turbo-Lasers or other forms of energy weapons. Well, and it has to look cool. I think that is an important factor in Star Wars. Otherwise, with that energy, you could just form some kind of AoE Microwave field or other such human horrors.

[@croctologist]

This video is so esoteric and complex I have no idea why I, someone who doesn’t even possess a basic or fundamental knowledge of Star Wars and consequently doesn’t really understand this video, is watching it. I just love seeing people show such an extensive understanding of a fictional world seemingly as vivid as reality. It reminds me of the worlds I would come up with in my head when I was a little kid. It’s the reason I’ve been watching your channel all week, even if I don’t comprehend it fully. The sense of wonder, awe, and vastness that the series has is powerful and majestic to veterans and newbies alike. :) I’m glad I found this channel. I think it’s about time I rewatch these films, eh?

[@xzardas541]

It's also lack of finesse. 90% of fleet doctrines: Go into mele range, fire turbolasers, die,repeat. 90% of ground combat: Run at enemy screaming and firing wildly. This reminds me certain invasion from Starship troopers, and we all know how thats ends. Artillery support is nonexistent. Precise kinetic bombardment? Never! We shall build Spaceballs! Spacebaaals! And destroy habitable planets, cause who need developed planet with industry and stuff, phew. To fight Space wizard we will send droids with flashy sticks, quite logical cause Jedi deflect blasters with ease. Oh, wait we should build shotguns. (there is some Geneva convention thin forbidding those?) And our bellowed pizza Star Destroyer. Build point defence dammit. Have you never played Stellaris? If you want to see what spaceship should look like: Halo, Human ships. And what happens when more advanced but barbaric (Still bether than ISD) in their designs aliens show up.

[@nagollnosegrobbb2165]

I LOVE stellaris !!!! Im doing an old republic themed playthrough rightnow and I am totally going to make the switch from republic to empire when the time comes lol. Wish I could build a deathstar

[@florianchabaud8548]

@@nagollnosegrobbb2165 With Gigastructural mod, you can make an Attack Moon. It is basically a death star

[@Qureas]

@@nagollnosegrobbb2165 You have planet destroying superweapons. it's just not shaped as a ball.

[@Comintern1919]

The Movie Version of Starship Troopers. Not the Original Book. As a Fan of the Book, I need to emphasize that important distinction, since the movie is so much different than the book.

[@X_RayLT]

Have you ever played Elite Dangerous?

[@hopsyn]

Because the writers live in the real world where we aren’t even close to that level of advancement, hence a limit on technological imagination

[@pikadragon2783]

Yes, maybe, but also not really. There is a sort of vision to what technologie can and cannot do, that differs from author to author. For example, if you read 'The Three Body Problem', things are a lot different. There, light speed is the absolute maximum anything can travel, and technology simply cannot break that(not even in a sneaky way). But boy, can it break other things. It's a real good read, too, highly recommend it.

[@kittygiatanidon4980]

Its yes, but its a little more than that it also has to do that there is no such thing as an innovation to explore new techknowledgies in fact, they dont even know if theres more galaxys outside there own galaxy

[@Captianmex1C0]

I've always wondered why millions of years of Cross planet technological advancement has lead to this. Yet no ship in star wars seems to use nano tech (Not the avengers stuff) buy genuine microbial robots that can repair the ship without the need for a repair crew.

[@KRYMauL]

@@pikadragon2783 The problem with this is even Einstein hated the light speed max thing, and proposed a wormhole as one way to negate this.

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

@@pikadragon2783 I see you know that Cynical Sci-Fi ficiton book,seems I am not just alone.

[@davidalan528]

“If you keep mapping the Unknown Regions, you’ll have to call them something else.” - soon-to-be-General Wedge, making the most succinct argument for the name switch.

[@skellzzed8255]

Because while George innovates his designs, THE FANS COPY FROM THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY FOR ANY FAN FICTION, MAKING IT EXTREMELY DERIVATIVE!

[@Nero_studios]

What prevented hyperspace tracking before the last jedi? #askeck

[@Helmet_Von_Moldy]

Nero Studios a lack in development into plot armor

[@TankHunter678]

Nothing. In fact Hyperspace tracking was used in A New Hope via planted beacon, it was used in Attack of the Clones in the same manner. It was also the reason why the Rebels would scatter when leaving a system after a fight to then meet up at a rendezvous point later after multiple jumps like in Empire Strikes Back. If there was no hyperspace tracking then why would they do that? There would be no reason to do that if hyperspace tracking was not a thing. Imperial Interdiction ships would also not know when to activate the interdiction field when policing hyperspace lanes if they had no ability to detect and track entities in hyperspace. Hyperspace tracking was simply not used as big of a plot point such that an entire movie was built around it in the past. The Last Jedi took what was basically a given and tried to paint it as something new. As for sure the Rakatans who invented Hyperspace travel would certainly also create a system for tracking ships using it in order to police their empire. Naturally since Rakatan hyperdrives were reverse engineered their tracking systems would as well.

[@codename1176]

TankHunter678 also you could say computing power now instead of which way they went you can real time track them

[@jasonutty52]

It was always a technology even in the clone wars. This is what pisses me off the most about the new trilogy. They don't even know their own butchered canon.

[@astrobot4017]

What is "The Last Jedi" ? Is it good?

[@quinnkennedy4496]

And the stormtroopers just started using jetpacks in RoS? Shit was way more advanced in the prequels

[@DragonHeart53]

I think it more had to do with the fact that jetpacks were expensive and difficult to train. which was the complete opposite of the cannon fodder expendable nature of stormtroopers. There were already specialized troopers who were more expensive and valuable to produce, and adding jet-troopers into the roster just adds another expensive unit to train and fund for. Though by the events of RoS, It's likely the First Order decided to just go for it and train up troopers to use them.

[@DragonHeart53]

@ZMan1471 the clones didn't have shields. Personal shields were extremely rare among solders in general. Droideka were one of the only examples of a personal deflector shield. Also, the empire favored the use of starships. And had less intention of ground defence or assault when they could help it. So camo was less ideal when the troopers would be deploid in missions where they intend to be seen. Like the check points on tatooine. They're not hiding so there's no point in having camo. There were the beach troopers in Rouge One, and they had camo specifically because they were specialized to have defense roles for the base they were stationed at.

[@victorruiz7359]

those kaminoids are real private, but they were more advanced.

[@greenfox3010]

star wars technology advance slowly.......... *cries in high gothic*

[@CaptainPositron]

Inertial dampers, not dampeners. They're not trying to make the inertia moist. :P

[@David_Alvarez77]

Maybe he is showing respect to moisture farmers.

[@nopenah5681]

This comment made me moist

[@Goannadria]

Dampener - a thing that has a restraining or subduing effect. They're not making energetic soda bread!

[@CaptainM792]

It is inertial dampeners, it also exist in Star Trek, just like Tractor Beams and deflector shields.

[@gianlucaborg195]

CaptainPositron maybe he’s actually talking moisture farming?

[@TheShadesOfBlack]

I like how Star Wars has adopted Baby Yoda as a year marker. You have Before Baby Yoda and After Baby Yoda.

[@potatoesareneat746]

You know that means Before Battle of Yavin ( sorry if I spelled that wrong ). And After Battle of Yavin right¿

[@diegovenegas5400]

@@potatoesareneat746: *Yavin

[@potatoesareneat746]

Sorry

[@mjkalasky2775]

@@potatoesareneat746 They where most likely joking.

[@kennethkates3140]

Starship versus: Harrower class Dreadnaught vs Victory class Star Destroyer

[@jackofblades8112]

It's actually really simple, the more advanced your tech the more the next step will cost and these cost increase exponentially. At some point it might just not be worth advancing further, and instead time and recources are better spent on perfecting existing tech.

[@adesignersperspective]

i always just felt that technology in the universe has been at such an advanced level for so many millennia that there's just not much further it can go for most practical purposes in most areas. it's easy to ask a question like "why does technology in the star wars universe advance slowly?" - it's a lot more difficult to answer what would be the followup question of "what would you propose needs to advance faster, to what effect, and why?"

[@mage3690]

I'll take this question. Firstly, they need radar. As far as I can tell, it doesn't exist at all, with humans aiming the ship guns by hand. Secondly, using computers integrated into a product instead of running around looking like the Tin Man or a trash can would allow for much more specialization and decentralization of processing power. Third, miniaturize those computers. Stick them in everything. The guns are a great example. Fourth, where in God's black sky are the missiles? You can't go 5 miles in a modern battlefield without running into anti-aircraft defences, whether in the form of MANPADS or fixed SAM sites. Fifth, there is a complete lack of explosives used in Star Wars. It boggles my mind how any civilization fighting a serious war can completely miss the advantage of mines, grenades, and missiles. Sixth, battlefield tactics in Star Wars remind me how Communists fight wars: just throw people at it. That's not how you win wars, that's how you lose people. Seventh, there seems to be zero anti-tank weaponry as well. Contrary to popular belief, tanks are not meant to duke out with each other. Killing tanks is for infantry, artillery, or air support. First rule of warfare: never pick a fair fight. Eighth, there is no battlefield air support. Either because the two sides are too close to each other, or they simply don't have the precision (put computers in the guns, for Pete's sake), orbital bombardment is reserved for ransom threats exclusively, and gunships seem to be the better part of non-existent. Ninth, you have personal shields, or so you tell me, I certainly can't see them. You get a shield, you get a shield, everyone gets a shield, and if your military can't afford that, maybe your militaries' financial decisions should be called into question. Tenth, your "lasers" are a little on the slow side. Weapons should be fast, guided, or both. Neither is just asking your target to move a little to the left, and while you're at it, could you shoot back, if you've got the time?

[@stubbornspaceman7201]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@mage3690 You clearly known nothing about Star Wars based on this comment, let me break this down for you. They do have radar, but they also have highly advanced ECM. As the Katana fleet incident has shown integrated/networked computers are a dumb idea. Their computers work just fine and what proof do you have that they can’t miniaturize them? And really stick in everything including their blasters it’s like your asking for someone to come up with a way to explode your blaster by hacking the computer you stupidly installed into it. They do use missiles they’re just very expensive when compared to blaster tech and can be baffled or shot down. Really no explosives you must of been watching a different movie because I distinctly remember a disguised Liea threatening Jabba with a thermal detonator. They do have anti-tank weapons we just never see them because we never see tanks in the movies. They do have air support. They don’t use orbital bombardment because using orbital bombardment for infantry support is stupid and dangerous. They do use computers on their guns shut up. And they do have gunships we just aren’t shown any in the first trilogy. They do have personal shields they are just extremely power hungry and thus usually no worth it. Oh god not this again, blaster bolts move just as fast as bullets just because you can see them doesn’t mean they are slow(example tracer rounds). Also they don’t use super advanced computers because that’s how you get droid rebellions. If you’re going to talk shit about Star Wars actually learn the lore before you embarrass yourself even more.

[@stubbornspaceman7201]

@@mage3690Also you are aware of when Star Wars was first made right?

[@mage3690]

@@stubbornspaceman7201upon further research, yeah, they do have radar. They never use it, which is my complaint. "They have highly advanced ECM." Ok sure, I'll bite. Do you know how ECM works? I do. It goes a little something like this: any sensor capable of spotting a metal basketball at 100 miles or so through atmospheric clutter is bound to be pretty sensitive. ECM is the blindingly obvious solution of "hey, let's point a flashlight at this highly sensitive camera, it won't be able to see shit." If you're thinking "hey wait a minute, why isn't everyone just shooting at the guy WAVING A FLASHLIGHT AROUND IN COMBAT," they are. It's just that modern combat doctrine stresses that EW aircraft remain in the backline, and it's why the USAF is looking into drones and decoys to do that job. It also doesn't work against anyone who comes to the blindingly obvious solution of "hey, I have more than one radar detector on my freaking enormous battleship, what say we link those detectors up and perform a minor amount of trigonometry?" Or "why don't we link up our little fighters to each other and channel a wee smidgeon of our inner Pythagoras?" It only works in modern combat with truly networked sensors because decoys exist. And decoys don't exist in Star Wars, at least so far as I can tell, other than that one mention in that one book that led to that one entry in the Wookiepedia. And yeah, if your computers are so great you can whack what appears to be a sentient AI in a trash can, put a computer in a blaster. Not connected to the power supply, definitely not controlling power output, and _definitely_ not capable of connecting to anything further away than a hand on the trigger, that's a clearly idiotic move and no one in their right mind would do that. No, what you want to do is put a camera in the scope, provide aimbot, mark all enemies spotted or shot at by your weapon, transfer that mark to your helmet (through your hand, of course), and broadcast that mark on the battlefield network for literally everyone to see. Or have a hive mind of targeting computers controlling your ship guns instead of having one guy on each gun just shooting at whatever. One or more guys designates targets of opportunity, and the guns do everything else: pick the guns that are going to kill it the deadest and the soonest, coordinate their fire so there is no escape, and move on. This system could do things like notice that capital ship grade battery is going to intersect that fighter's trajectory with a minimum of rotation, take the shot, and go back to doing whatever. Is it inefficient? Yes. War is inefficient. You are quite literally lighting money on fire, blowing it up, and shooting it out of a cannon. Besides, this is a laser. Shooting them is practically free. Plus, WTF evidence do we have that computers even _can_ be hacked? There was a whole enemy type who were literally droids. If that isn't incentive to hack someone, IDK what is, yet they never got hacked in any meaningful way. Not only that, if droids can't be baffled, the same thing should apply to guidance systems. A computer is a computer and a camera is a camera, no matter what they're mounted in. Oh, and sure, blasters are cheaper than missiles. So are guns of every shape and size. There is quite literally no missile that could not be replaced by a projectile fired from a rifled barrel for a quarter of the cost. Any missile in existence today can be baffled or shot down, and do get baffled and shot down quite literally on the daily. Yet we still have missiles, because they provide an obvious advantage: range and payload. No matter how fast or good you make a gun, laser, blaster, whatever, a missile can outrange it and likely deliver more hurt to the target. Also, this brings me to my point on explosives. What I meant by a lack of explosives is not that they don't exist, it's that there isn't _enough_ of them. They barely exist in any meaningful capacity, other than as plot points. They *should* be _everywhere._ Flying over your head as artillery, flying after literally every fighter, tank, and ship in existence as missiles, littering the ground at choke points as mines, flying in doors before troops do as grenades and more missiles, etc. Heck, I found mention of a missile with the size and appearance of a blaster bolt. Why everyone isn't shooting exclusively guided missiles around the battlefield is beyond me. "But it can be baffled." Oh no. Now it's merely an explosive blaster bolt. Whatever shall we do? Plus, the exact kind of gun that's good at shooting down a missile is _excellent_ at shooting down a fighter. If you don't have enough missiles and decoys to give every one of those guns two or three targets to shoot at, you're going to lose an awful lot of fighters awful quick. This brings me to the point on blasters. They're not lasers. Everyone agrees they're not lasers, except for a few goofy lines in the movies. Everyone agrees they're much slower than lasers, and much slower than bullets, for that matter. Here's the trouble with saying they're lasers, and therefore travel at the speed of light: in the movies, you can _very_ clearly see blaster bolts traveling at a certain speed, and impacting whatever they're about to hit at that speed, and not before, as you'd expect if all we see are artifacts from the rolling shutter effect or smth. You can also see people moving in the same frame as those blaster bolts, same as you can see the blaster muzzle light up when fired, and not after firing. What, is the speed of light slower than a fastball in the Star Wars universe? PS: WTF are those things at the Battle of Grassy Planes in _The Phantom Menace,_ if not tanks? Yet I saw no anti-tank weaponry, other than "rush it and throw something down the hatch." That tactic was used far too often in Star Wars generally for me to assume that AT weapons are anything more than a joke.

[@mage3690]

@@stubbornspaceman7201 and yes, I know when Star Wars first came out. 1977, about a decade after the F-4A Phantom II, the first fighter jet in US history to lack an internally mounted gun in favor of missiles. It failed, but only because the missiles were _too_ good. US pilots began shooting each other down, and after a few too many of those incidents, the US required all pilots to visually identify enemy aircraft. Turns out, when you're that close to enemy aircraft and you don't have an AIM-9X, sometimes you need guns. WHO COULD'VE SEEN THIS COMING?

[@AS-tg8xe]

Commander Riker: Captain they have no shields and are shooting at us with lasers... Captain Picard: Beam a photon torpedo to their bridge...

[@TheCorintur]

I remember reading some fanfic that was a crosower of the two universes ages ago and it did go like that but the federation almost got overwhelmed due to the numbers and the size of the imperial ships. It was a fun little story. I think it was called The Rift or something along those lines.

[@done4195]

All that sand gets everywhere, even in the microchips.

[@OwenNovakChildofGod]

I always thought that it was like they had already reached the maximum potential of Technology. Simple as that. People are saying other things and overthinking it. I think it’s as simple as; “The Star Wars universe is already as technologically advanced as it can be in-universe”. That’s my thought

[@tungstencrayfish5921]

Owen Novak *cough cough*Dyson spheres

[@OwenNovakChildofGod]

Tungsten crayfish *cough* Star Forge *cough*

[@synphilia4776]

Yall need a cough drop or smth?

[@AndrewManook]

Can they create biological life forms? Cause we in real life are almost there.

[@Dendricklystable]

@@AndrewManook star wars isn't real life. It's science fantasy not science fiction, technology is different, not advanced. We have technology that they could never have and vice versa

[@battleboo4u]

how the hell do you pump out such good content when voting was less than 12 hours ago? /r/sithlordconfirmed

[@o00nemesis00o]

....because he already made the videos. Didn't you see the poll for when he only had one video available?

[@trevordevonshire5672]

@@o00nemesis00o r/woooooosh

[@supernukey419]

Trevor Devonshire there aren’t that many Os.

[@wwlb4970]

I've been thinking about it and my best guess was that they actually reached technological singularity rather than stagnation in many places of the galaxy. However, enormous amount of races and cultures complicates or even halts the spread of ideas. As a result, certain races are underdeveloped despite having industrial base, while others seem to possess advanced magic without tendency to militarize or just share. Resource-wise, there is demand for any kinds of supplies - from mined coal to unobtanium - again due to vastness of applications and industries, which again slows overall progress.

[@PeachDragon_]

WH40K: wait, you actually ADVANCE in technology?

[@docgonzobordel]

Heretic !

[@carnifexor3010]

I wonder if this explains the inconsistent application of cloaking technology. Cloaking tech was present within the Republic both before and during the clone wars. I think this would make for a good video and tie in to the history of slow technamalogical progression Eck analyzed for us (yes, that was intentional ;) in his video.

[@jamieobree1181]

So they went from big space ships with lasers to bigger space ships with bigger lasers? Wow! So much technological development!

[@charlestaylor253]

It's all about more powerful Pew-Pew in the SW universe. And it apparently always has been...😏

[@Ayrton_Chitwood]

Why does it stagnate? Because in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only War.

[@martimking1craft]

@@user-tc5mu4gi7u you don't know if the person who is telling the story is actually from even further the future

[@iaminevitable7221]

When you really think about it we've only entered an age of advanced technology within the last hundred years, who knows if a thousand years from now our technological advancement will start stagnating

[@takumiyamamiya8877]

Amusingly enough, within the last 4000 years, 2000 was spent more or less stagnating technologically. Backsliding a few times, even (Bronze Age Collapse!). Then 1500 of more very slow progress with the occasional backsliding. It's only in the past 500 or so years that Human tech REALLY took off. Us stagnating does not seem likely anytime soon, but it's a very terrifying possibility in the future.

[@BraindeadCRY]

Put the bridges on the inside of the ship instead of vulnerable on the outside: EUREKA, massive technological breakthrough that turns your ships basically invincible. Mind blown.

[@gabrielclark1425]

Attach droid brains directly to the turbo lasers and feed it your ships sensor data, can now shoot beyond a human's eyeball.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Use droid fighters, they have higher maneuverability, can be smaller than standard fighters, and don’t cost lives. Specifically the Tri-Fighter, those things turn any ship into a bee hive of hell.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Jeffrey Scott well and Palpatine was playing both sides of the war. No clone army of 3mil can last 3 years against an army of several quadrillion.

[@theavaliengineer]

Build super small, stealthy ships with missiles, put them outside the main battle plane, and start lobbing torpedoes at each other. Boom, ground breaking revelation.

[@michaelmartin9022]

@@gabrielclark1425 It's possible that those lasers don't have "beyond a human eyeball" range, they are after all radiating light and heat out into space as soon as they're fired, they probably lose effectiveness really quickly depending on how far they travel. Guided torpedoes? Could be that jamming and countermeasures are raised to such perfection they're basically useless. Droid fighters? Again, jamming, directed EMP, even "remote hacking" to make droids change sides. Or it could even be there's some "unwritten moral code" that in a war there always needs to be a sentient living being "pulling the trigger", and killing is not left up to machines. Which might also explain why the Republic was so willing to vote to raise it's first army in millennia against the Trade Federation.

[@cinnamonjam9173]

One of the things someone pointed out to me was one of the reasons tech was so weird in star wars was because they tried to make everything uniform. Notice how basically every piece of tech interfaces with every other piece of tech? How people don't go, "Hey, anyone have a USB C?" 'No, sorry. I only have micro'. How all droids have a little cable that can interface with basically any terminal? You'd expect with an entire galaxy that technologies would differ, but they really don't. Yeah, the mechanics change like hyperdrives and weapons but the majority of things made interface with everything else that was made. I'm %1000 certain that BB-8 could interface with Luke's old X wing and R2-D2 could probably interface still with whatever high-tech ship they have now. My friend was talking to me about how there was a whole period where parts of the galaxy started making tech that could completely work with other tech until they had basically everyone on board but it took so long that there were barely any technological revolutions in like 1000 years. You could probably take apart R2 and use a lot of his pieces to repair BB-8. Even Babo as he's forcing 3PO's memories out has no problem interfacing with an old droid. I don't know if this is a theory or if it goes to a point where it's a thousand years before the events we're familiar with or if he has a lot of evidence but this is just pieces of what I remember he told me about

[@svijj_]

Star Wars: We don't produce any new technologies, because everything was mostly researched, and there is no need for any new weapons, since most of the already researched do their job well Warhammer 40k: We don't produce any new technology, because we fucking forgot how lmao

[@aarontheperson6867]

also in 40k isnt it like heresey to try and make new technology

[@bio4478]

What is battle of the dreadnaught?? It looks awesome, movie? Game? YT video?

[@EckhartsLadder]

Yt video I'm making

[@zannisburutis2738]

@@EckhartsLadder oh #*ck yes!

[@codename1176]

EckhartsLadder do you have an estimate on when? Such as a few months or weeks?

[@ValdVincent]

It's also worth remembering, nearly all of this tech came from the sith, sure you can argue the later republic stuff isn't truly sith, but by the time it was the return of the old empire it sorta says it all.

[@deusexaethera]

Why has technology stagnated? Well, there are a finite number of laws of physics to exploit, and if they've cracked faster-than-light travel they're probably pretty close to the limit of their universe's laws of physics.

[@ARTDaGAT]

Anyone else wanna see a spinoff series about the first Jedi

[@ThePsycoDolphin]

I can think of a couple of interesting possibilities. 1) it could be that, for whatever reason, the SW universe timeline is a one where humanity managed to achieve vast interstellar space travel but without the microchip revolution of the 80s. Hence, all computers still function basically as analogue typing machines, or glorified Assymetry machines but no further. The massive, vast teams of people around the bridges of Star Destroyers or the Death Star would seem to testify to that fact. 2) it could be that, as per point 1, the relative lack of microchip computing is substituted by humans increased brain power. As somewhat similar to the Dune universe (although not as extreme) it could be that the overall education level of the average citizen is much, much higher than what even we'd consider advanced education now, and that living in a society filled all the time with high tech complexity means almost by default the level of mathematical complexity a person has to grasp is higher. All those teams of people on the death Star may be engaging in quite complex calculations to maneuver and operate a bloated technological monstrosity like the death Star. It could be, abit like the simulations in the 3 body problem, vast teams of people operate as organic cpus in terms of programming power (ridiculously inefficient as this may be, considering the energy levels and reliability of mammals is far less than a computer, but let's pretend *no one* even grasps of what a microchip is. It would make sense within that society). 3) droids. Droids are quite ridiculously advanced in comparison to the computer systems, probably because in most cases droids externalise the functions we've internalised inside a computer hardrive. R2 units for example seem to be absolutely necessary to engage in the complex space-time calculations of fighter combats, and in cases like Morgan Elsbeth's massive hyperspace travelling ring ship the bridge is almost entirely controlled by Star Navigator Droids. Wookipedia describes them as "capable of the vast calculations necessary to cross the intergalactic void into another galaxy. Using the henge on Seatos and the activated star map, the droids were able to calculate a safe route through the Pathway to Peridea. The risk of losing connection to the map was that the droids would be unable to plot the safe route to Peridea, leaving the vessel lost in the void of space." That sounds to me like a computer in all but name. So instead of having a programme that does that all for you, they have them in the form of droids. 4) the Force. If, during the Old Republic and before, there were way, way, *way* more force active users around, it would probably negate entirely the need for active technological advancement. Darts Vader said the actual frickin' Death Star was insignificant to the power of the dark side. Darth Nihillus could consume entire goddamn planets as food. If that was the norm, why would anyone need invest in weaponry or computers? Force users can sense, predict, plan, calculate at a phenomenally higher rate, and use the environment around them to their advantage. Why build a digger when a jedi can just shove some rocks out the way? You can see that by the time of the High Republic, where the Sith are virtually extinct and the Jedi ossified into semi-police monks, the force is much less prominent, hence why the high Republic is much more technologically advanced. During the Empire, the Jedi is basically exterminated and the Sith is 2 (or 3 counting Maul) people. Hence the massive investment now put into technological armaments, droids, ships etc. They *have* to start building the computing power previously relied upon in force users, and because they're starting at a lower rate of progress they're still relying on the sort of computers we abandoned 40 years ago In conclusion we can draw a couple of fundamental lessons about what the SW universe has to be like. 1), personal relations, in the form of teams of people or human like droids, are infinitely more important. Perhaps it almost becomes a cultural thing after a while, to replace humans with computers and to turn droids into Siris would be seen as distasteful, people get attached to their droids and each other. 2) the sheer resource extraction needed to keep droids and people to this level is collosal. Huge megastructures of power, whether in the Republic or Empire, are a necessity in such a universe to enable the constant feeding and support of the vast populations needed to support a Star Destroyer and provide the raw materials to build and maintain that many droids. You need vast supply chains capable of coordinating economc activity. Thankfully, the sheer size of the galaxy and the number of fertile inhabitanted planets means that resources are virtually unlimited, meaning they're in a zone of almost pure abundance. 3) SW society is very vulnerable. If all the droids were destroyed in an EMP type event, or rebelled, a hell of a lot of their operational capacity would be gone. Being so reliant on a force cult for the heavy lifting means if and when they're gone, the chances of falling into a technological dark ages are profound. No I have no life or girlfriend.

[@aidanmaloney237]

I recently rewatched the zilo beast episodes. And I was thinking that the head structure of the bival species looks very similar to that of the racatans. Slender tall heads. Hammer head like eyes.

[@jj4013]

And then in the rise of Skywalker the first order went from hover speeders to ones with tracks for some reason

[@th3garbageman]

The dog at the end always gets me