The most unbothered Rebel Pilot ever

[@1into1]

Reason for male overdub: So, I saw a video interview some years ago with one of the special-effects artists from Lucasfilm. When asked about this male overdub over a female actor, he said that, honestly, they just weren't paying attention. Remember, this was 1982, there were no e-mails, no ProTools, cell phones, etc. ADR was a totally different unit from the main filming units. Apparently, no-one bothered to let ADR know that this was a female pilot, as they were given film without sound to overdub, and the sound artists just assumed that they were looking at a male pilot. It was just oversight, and nobody caught the mistake until well after the film had been finished. Imho, Lucas could have done something about that in one of his many later 'Special Editions', but there you are.

[@daxtertalon4]

FINALLY!!! Everyone like this so soyboys crying sexism don't make it to the top.

[@comicmoniker]

​@@daxtertalon4 lol who actually says "soyboys"? You're like a caricature of yourself 🤣

[@wildfiresnap]

@@daxtertalon4 unironically saying "soyboy" in 2022 you're making fun of yourself lmfao

[@thewewguy8t88]

still why dub the voice and its a shame more of the footage was not used. but yeah your explantion makes a lot of sense if that is the case. but still that little mess up did sort of change would could have been a very interesting moment of seeing and hearing and knowing you saw the first female pilot in star wars lol. now its just a behind the scenes fact.

[@daxtertalon4]

@@comicmoniker I guess I wasn't glued enough to social media to notice that insults change every five minutes. Darn, silly me.

[@SolidMGSnake]

The male voice was so convincing and synced perfectly I never even gave it a second thought. I'd be pissed if I was that person playing that character. So weird.

[@ironmaiden93ofangmar]

Yeah it must suck really bad for her to have her voice taken out. Props to the editing team I guess though.

[@RenegadesRift]

Dave Prowse agrees.

[@randomobserver8168]

The perils of being a one line character in the movies since forever- dubs, having your line edited out, having your visuals edited out altogether. I imagine as long as she got paid it was all good.

[@vit968]

I'd be upset that my character just got shot down just like that after displaying unshakable calm in the face of being tailed by two tie fighters.

[@stephenjohnston7630]

Imagine being Dennis Lawson at the premiere of Star Wars!

[@SFisher1993]

The “I guess I’ll die” pilot.

[@FemboyTyco]

LOL Exactly

[@danielkorladis7869]

Probably been with the alliance long enough to have accepted the probability of death.

[@zargonofb]

I've heard that black box audio...

[@cornpowa]

I always took it to be that the pilot just wasn't aware of the situation. Tunnel vision or something like that.

[@FemboyTyco]

@@cornpowa The Battle was Chaotic i can totally see that.

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

Forget the A-Wing, I wanna know who the guy in the Y-Wing shooting down that Interceptor with a blaster cannon was.

[@classicalricky]

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the clone “oddball”

[@Earthstar_Review]

I appreciated this more after learning some of the legacy lore for the Y-Wing as an obsolete multi-role fighter. Only a Chad would dogfight the X-Wing Killer in one of those old bessies

[@TroySpace]

It serves to show the chaos of the dogfighting going on, and how adaptable the Rebels are. Y-Wings are the bombers and are meant to take on capships - and in this case were loaded for Death Star runs. The plan immediately goes out the window and they have to improvise. It goes out of its way to pursue and kill a pair of TIE-Ins, which were probably chasing it, then the A-Wing came in and drove them off. Star Wars makes strong use of visual language and storytelling, and draws heavily on WWII. The entire RoTJ space battle has the Rebels using the worst possible match, to show how desperate they are (remember back then they expected the audience to be smart). The Super Star Destroyer gets taken down not by a bomber but by an A-Wing. A Y-Wing cleans up a pair of TIE-Ins chasing an A-Wing. A _converted freighter_ flies into the Death Star II to blow it up.

[@95HH]

It's Red 2. You see him later acknowledging another order. Oddly, the shot they used for "Red 2" is footage of the same pilot who plays Gray Leader, Horton Salm. In Legends, this was never really addressed. But in canon, one of the Another Point of View books introduced Keyser Salm, Horton's younger brother. Although not confirmed in text yet, the author has said this is supposed to be Red 2 in RotJ. Given that Horton was a bit of a badass in his time, being the person to successfully disable Baron Soontir Fel's Interceptor leading to his capture, it makes sense his younger brother is taking down Interceptors for fun in a Y-Wing too.

[@TroySpace]

@@95HH man I hated seeing Soontir Fel on the table in the X-Wing miniatures game.

[@connerclark3678]

Honestly if you’re that cool under the pressure of two TIE Interceptors on you, I think it’s likelier that the pilot’s scanners/scopes were hit and they didn’t see the TIEs coming.

[@TroySpace]

The real question is why her wingman wasn't watching her six. It's quite likely the Y-Wing didn't have her frequency so couldn't warn her, and was just following in an ad hoc formation. The Y should have been setting up for attack runs on Imperial cap ships (especially given the WWII in space model of Star Wars) but its own squadron was nowhere to be seen. Had the TIE-Ins been not trying to swarm and go for the kill, one would have spotted the sluggish Y lining up to take them both out. Also, a large scale battle like this is information overload.

[@Andrew-zv4fm]

Looks like someone was playing X-Wing and or TIE Fighter.

[@cherrybramble]

didnt her og line also have her saying her scopes were negative or smtn? sounds like you were right on the money

[@Sephiroth144]

Would explain why they didn't TRY TO EVADE.

[@klaykid117]

LMAO basically their rear view mirrors were broken 😂🤣

[@theshadowsovereign8914]

0:16 - That is the face of a person who is COMPLETELY unaware of their surroundings.

[@TheGreenTaco999]

"chat he doesn't know"

[@Ironknuckle100]

Women ☕️

[@Rapscalionshandeekin]

A typical female driver

[@JediDanD]

St. Peter has to deal with people like that all the time :3 “You weren’t paying attention to the road, were you . . .” “Nope.” **Sigh** “Like you couldn’t pull over for one minute if you needed to text your boyfriend so badly?” X3

[@Ww1whiz1914]

Blud was an ex-German main

[@Shadx27]

I always took that scene as the pilot was just unaware of how close the Tie's were and it was just part of the chaos in that battle.

[@cornpowa]

I may be biased since that's what I've always believed too, but I feel like this is more likely.

[@Eleolius]

Checks out with reality. The supermajority of air to air fighter kills, the victim never knew they were being attacked, hence modern jets like F35 have vastly improved automated threat detection than older fighters.

[@thomasmiller4710]

Yeah but Wedge usually is on top of things like that, and you know he would have said something. This scene always bothered me as a kid as well, especially when you play Rogue Squadron 2 for years and your wingmen in Endor are the A-Wing and Y-Wing in this scene.

[@ScottGrow117]

This was my thoughts. Although, they presumably have radar. But again, they may not be super skilled pilots, just what is left from previous battles. Many of the most skilled rebel fighters and pilots were killed by imperial raids, the empire was terrifyingly efficient at this. We don’t see it in the movies, but being a rebel fighter of any kind was a death sentence. These people were courageous as fuck!

[@imweird.6147]

We have to girl who was in my your own home you face.

[@were-owlinwisconsin4441]

That pilot probably just didn't know those TIE interceptors were behind her. Statistically, most pilots who get shot down were not aware they'd been targeted until the plane was filled with holes or blown apart by a missile.

[@John-tj9to]

Statistically? You do realise this is all fictional and made up fantasy right? We aren't talking about a real life event....

[@marcotolomio5269]

More probably, the actress/pilot didn't know that she would have 2 tie fighters at 6 o clock after post-production. Simple.

[@LgiovanniF]

Except it was a turbo laser.

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

Agree.. which is why some pilot remove the tracer round. So the victim didn't realized they were being shooted at until its too late

[@mathiasbartl903]

She might have felt somewhat safe, close to a friendly cruiser.

[@Weazel1]

That’s… something I didn’t know. I never noticed it was a woman being dubbed over and I’ve been watching this movie since ‘83.

[@ShadowReaper-pu2hx]

I don’t remember ever noticing it either.

[@greatBLT]

@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx Is there anyone who noticed before being made aware of the original recording?

[@MrChickennugget360]

its because she looks like the male A-wing Pilot. But they are two different pilots who have similar helmets and uniforms. "Green leader" is not the same as this pilot but look very similar.

[@hunterkiller1440]

That dub and lip movement matched so well I thought that was the actor's voice.

[@AJadedLizard]

Imagine flying a TIE Interceptor, literally the most advanced starfighter of the literal Galactic Empire, and getting killed by a jumped-up bomber from the last war.

[@davydatwood3158]

When ROTJ was shot, Y-Wings weren't leftovers from the Clone Wars, they were heavily hot-rodded contemporaries of the X-Wings. It wasn't until Hidalgo decided to trashbin all the work the modelmakers did in 1976 designing the Y-Wings in "Rebels" that there was any hint that the Y-Wings in the movies had been used by the Empire - and even then, there's nothing in the episode that says the birds go all the way back to the Clone Wars. Given that shapes of the ships don't match up at all, my headcannon is that theANH/ROTJ Y-Wings are later development, and no more similar to the Clone Wars ships than a Mirage 2000 is to a Mirage III, or an F/A-18F is to an F/A-18A.

[@AJadedLizard]

@@davydatwood3158 Alan Dean Foster's novelization of Star Wars specifically mentions Gold Squadron's leader flew alongside Anakin during the Clone Wars; it's not at all unreasonable to assume at the very least Jon Vander was flying *some* sort of fighter bomber back then, and I always assumed it was Y-Wings then as well.

[@wolffothewolfgod8794]

Those are TIE Interceptors, certainly not the TIE Advanced.

[@AJadedLizard]

@@wolffothewolfgod8794 Shit, you're right.

[@scoutman66]

As opposed to figuratively the most advanced starfighter in the figurative Galactic Empire.

[@kevino6618]

Everyone seems to be wondering why the redubbing occurred in the first place. It came about due to them leaving the voice reel of the pilots in England when the production team moved back to the US for final editing. With studio deadlines looming and not enough time to ship the missing reel across the Atlantic it was easier and cheaper to redub those lines.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

I'm fairly sure there where aeroplanes even supersonic aeroplanes back in the 80s...I'm sure said reel could have been rapidly delivered

[@danielkorladis7869]

Instead of a lot of the other stuff in the special editions, I would have liked the original voices and the non-human pilots.

[@thewewguy8t88]

i know right same here! they were pretty good.

[@AJadedLizard]

More alien pilots would've been cool; that was missing in Rogue One as well.

[@randomobserver8168]

At the time of the OT, it was not at all clear that the rebellion was a multispecies movement or that the various nonhuman species one saw on planets like Tatooine were even from planets within the Republic or Empire, as opposed to allies the rebels had found to back them. The scale and diversity of society had not been at all established. Even RotJ didn't go too far in establishing this- the Mon Cal were the biggest presence/only big non human presence, and could easily have been more allies than rebels within the empire, and Nien Nunb's exact status or species was not known at the time of the movie. My personal take was that the rebellion was like the Spanish Civil War, and lots of foreigners signed up to fight the empire, with the Mon Cal a rare alien government willing to back the rebels. It took a lot of Legends continuity to shift the perspective.

[@Indylimburg]

No thanks. The acting was terrible. The male over dub at least kinda sells it.

[@tancred1]

Love that Y-Wing going in, and blasting those TIE Interceptors! Too late for the A-Wing pilot, but still got the job done.

[@radu_4]

They dubbed her with a male voice to represent the balls of steel she had.

[@ZedZeta]

The other thing to point out; by doing the dub over this pilot they actually used the voice from the A-wing pilot that crashes into the Executor, causing me and i'd imagine a lot of other people some confusion; because without context the two are actually essentially the same pilot lmao.

[@PenMarkArt]

Yes!!! I thought that too! Even as a kid, I would always have to second-guess that pilot in particular. Makes a lot more sense why now

[@ARandomSpecOp]

That’s who I thought he was talking ab at first LOL. The goat arville crynnid I think his name was

[@calvinnickel9995]

I was pretty sure they were the same pilot.

[@tridentflavor7557]

In ww2, most fighterpilots scored kills on enemies, who didn't know they were in danger at all (boom and zoom). As SW is rooted in WW2-style, it made sense to me that this A-wing got jumped the same way.

[@akiko7831]

I knew they dubbed her but I always wondered why. Her voice sounded fine.

[@danielkorladis7869]

Agreed.

[@theopenrift]

I think it's usually standard practice to dub lines over for minor characters/extras on big budget films. Oftentimes (especially in Star Wars) they'll be dubbed over by a completely different person.

[@apotato1228]

This is what another commenter said on it: "So, I saw a video interview some years ago with one of the special-effects artists from Lucasfilm. When asked about this male overdub over a female actor, he said that, honestly, they just weren't paying attention. Remember, this was 1982, there were no e-mails, no ProTools, cell phones, etc. ADR was a totally different unit from the main filming units. Apparently, no-one bothered to let ADR know that this was a female pilot, as they were given film without sound to overdub, and the sound artists just assumed that they were looking at a male pilot. It was just oversight, and nobody caught the mistake until well after the film had been finished."

[@spencersholden]

She had a British accent.

[@simontchang]

I think it's standard practice to re-dub all lines, the audio you actually get (as heard at the end in the raw footage) isn't usable.

[@grimlock1471]

One thing I really liked about the original trilogy was the icy cool professionalism of the fighter pilots.

[@sonickunckle]

Yeah, only the Rouge One Blue Leader Antoc Merrick gives the same vibe as Red Leader Graven Dreis and Gold Leader Jon Vander. Poe Daremon is just awful even in compared to Lando Calrissian, who at least performed reasonably well for a newly appointed squadron/starfighter corp leader.

[@grimlock1471]

​@@sonickunckle There's also Wedge Antilles, who's "cool under fire" reached memetic levels in Legends. It definitely harkens back to the old "Right Stuff," "better dead than look bad," test pilot mentality. But more than just an aesthetic that I find appealing, it offers tools for story telling and drama. The only time Dreis looses his cool is as he's auguring into the Death Star, yet for all his piloting experience, Biggs shows far more stress and anxiety. it allows for contrast in moments of drama. Even before Obi-Wan started whispering in Luke's ear, he was nervous but collected. The radar(or whatever) operators back on Yavin are relaying events in the tight, clipped, monotone of people who's fate is in the hands of others. All they have in that moment is keeping the status board up to date so, that's what we're gonna do, because it's this or loose it. Then Han comes in out of nowhere with that wild cowboy yell! And then the Sequels give us Poe... Who has 2 settings, childish snark, and cranked to 11.

[@joebenzz]

- "Hey you got two behind you!" - "So?"

[@boqndimitrov8693]

in battle, no one has time for dramatic panic performances. I remind you: this is a battlefield, not a theater scene.

[@walterkovacs8749]

Interveiwer: Why did u dub a man's voice over a female actor? Special fx guy: That is a story for another time.

[@phillaco]

That's the face of a person who doesn't realize they're back there, rofl.

[@gtterb]

I've seen ROTJ a million times and I was today years old when I noticed that there were two tie fighters behind that A Wing in the cockpit shot and seconds later when she got blown up. Thanks Eck

[@TomBatemanRT85]

If we go by the visuals, the pilot’s A-Wing is destroyed by the two TIE Interceptors, who are then destroyed by a Y-Wing. But then the same pilot appears again saying “Three of them coming in, 20 degrees!”. No one ever explains the continuity error.

[@deltahalo241]

Fueled entirely by spite, she pulled the exploded remains of her ship back together and kept on flying

[@bluebirdsigma]

No, that was Green Leader who later kamikazes the Executor.

[@DieGurke_]

Maybee Twins maybee clones who knows xD

[@AlchemistsTable]

@@bluebirdsigma THIS is what I never knew - and I've always wondered what @TomBatemanRT85 said. Thank you for clarifying that.

[@jeremiahrex]

The original voice was better than the dub, but the context is totally different. That scene makes way more sense with the original voice because she's saying something that makes sense in the context of being chased. Then in the movie she's apparently "got him"? Uh, no she doesn't and there isn't anything even there. Just very random.

[@davydatwood3158]

If you watch the whole BTS feature, they have basically all the actors in cockpits saying pretty much all the random lines. The line in the movie is "got it," which makes sense as "Yes, Wedge, I heard what you said." I'm personally pretty confident that the original actor said "got it" at some point.

[@calvinnickel9995]

First instinct is that this is the same A wing and pilot getting shot down from a continuity standpoint. But I always thought this was the same pilot who crashed into the Executor’s bridge. Also introduced as Green Leader when wings are reporting in.

[@Seraphil1]

It's a somewhat interesting scene showing how tunnel vision gets you killed quick: three pilots learned that lesson all at once

[@alastair4839]

Being so un-bothered got them killed - now Wedge... he is keyed in and intense, but also staying calm - what a pro!

[@Blake_Stone]

The actress's name was Poppy Hands, which I always remember because that's a name you only need to hear once. Her delivery is actually quite good - I think she was only dubbed because the Rebels are all Space Americans, the villains are Space British. There's quite a bit of inconsistency in the battle of Endor, I think because it was very complicated to edit. Like Wedge calls out to Red Two and Three here and we see "Sila Kott" (name invented much later) say "got it", weirdly right before dying which just happens unmotivated - I think the two TIE Interceptors in the back of the cockpit were added after the fact. But earlier we established that the X-Wings are Red Squadron and the A-Wings are Green Squadron, so Wedge's line probably wasn't meant to go with Kott's anyway. The destroyed A-Wing is avenged by a Y-Wing, then it cuts to another A-Wing pilot ("three of them coming in, 20 degrees"). Later in the film, what's clearly a Y-Wing pilot says "I'm on it, Gold Leader" and we see an A-Wing take out a TIE Interceptor, to which Wedge says "good shot, Red Two". So by a process of elimination Kott was Red Three. Over the years the fan wikis have worked overtime to try to "explain" all of this but it's clearly just a bit of clumsiness in the editing. In short, this pilot is unbothered by the two TIEs on her tail because the actress's footage wasn't originally shot with the intention that she was about to die, that was hastily added in to tie unrelated scenes together. Otherwise we would've probably got some last words like many other pilots had in Star Wars and RotJ ("I can hold it", "they came from behind", "she's gonna blow" etc).

[@Ridirean]

My understanding of the battle of Endor is that each group, Red Group, Gold Group, Green and Grey represented multiple squadrons and were mixed ship types. This is certainly reflected in old legends material like the X-wing series. This makes sense with the films since Lando only calls Red and Gold Group to attack the Death Star II's core, but we clearly see at least one A-wing enter the tunnel. That A-wing splits from Wedge and Lando to head back to the surface a draw off some of the pursuit.

[@whisperienced]

Lando: "aren't you bothered by those ties behind you?" Pilot: "Insert She-Hulk rant to Bruce"

[@NMAforever]

The pilot was SO busy juggling so many things, that I don't blame him/her

[@khandimahn9687]

I wouldn't say the pilot didn't care - I would say the pilot is a veteran. They've been through countless battles. Keeping one's cool under the most stressful conditions is the mark of a true professional.

[@TroySpace]

Yup, plus the sheer information overload of a massive battle.

[@RoboticPope]

A veteran wouldn't just fly straight with two enemies on their six. She didn't know they were there. A veteran pilot keeps their head on a swivel so that doesn't happen. She was a rookie and made a rookie mistake.

[@MasonBryant]

Wrong, the pilot didn't know he was being tailed.

[@LgiovanniF]

@@RoboticPope except the arrangement of the A wing cockpit makes looking behind you impossible. A wings are in and out interceptors not fighters, the rebels are throwing everything at the empire here. Nobody is doing their day job.

[@RoboticPope]

@@LgiovanniF Of course the A-wing is a fighter, it's the most manoeuvrable of the rebel ships. An actual interceptor (which Star Wars doesn't follow well) is a craft that is designed for extreme speed, over the ability to turn and fight. They for reaching and dealing with enemy bombers as quickly as possible (Me262 for example was an interceptor). I do agree that the A-wings rear view is not good. I have always thought a P-51D style bubble canopy would be a very useful modification and would look great too.

[@bakersmileyface]

That's not the face of someone that doesn't fear death. That's the face of someone that doesn't check their rear-view mirrors.

[@jamesbeach7405]

Now I can't unsee the bad overdub. Female A-Wing pilot you will be remembered for being cool under pressure.

[@BobbyL80123]

Fortunately the rebel pilot only saw a green screen to shield him from the reality that he was about to be blown to pieces by 2 tie fighters.

[@Jansenbaker]

I didn't notice that dubbing over.

[@heintz256]

Same here.

[@Uhmwthjgotsarged]

Since she couldnt see the TIE Intercepters, Maybe she was depending on speed and the trying to duck beneath the overlapping shielding of the Mon Cala cruiser *suggested Lore cop-out for the movie editting

[@martytu20]

There’s her mistake; trying to outrun an interceptor.

[@seawind930]

@@martytu20 In the old lore A-wings could mostly do it, couldn't outrun a Laser shot though.

[@CABRALFAN27]

@@martytu20 I mean, she is, herself, in an A-Wing interceptor, which is basically just two oversized thrusters glued to a cockpit, with a few cannons strapped on, so she probably could've done it. As the other comment said, though, even interceptors aren't faster that lasers.

[@josmo1363]

That's not a "cool and calm" pilot That's a pilot that forgot to turn their threat detection system on Lesson learned I guess 0:08 or not

[@Dr.Cosmar]

That man's apathy saved him from the worst part about dying. Regret.

[@MLB9000]

I remember that this was one of the pilot portraits that came up in The X-Wing game. The interesting thing was that you couldn’t actually choose any of the portraits, they were procedurally selected based on what name you put in. Even without a save file, the same name on someone else’s computer would always generate the same portrait. I think my pilot’s name was Selxs and I liked this portrait because it kind on looked like me.

[@MrBracey100]

When you see the unedited footage she definitely looks and sounds bothered by her predicament.

[@superzentredi]

A-Wing pilots are a different breed. P.S. Can we also take note that the much slower Y-Wing turfed two high speed interceptors!

[@Vekren]

She was so calm because she didn't even realize the gravity of the situation.

[@MichaelCorryFilms]

I mean "my scopes negative, where is he?" Implies an ambush, not a lack of fear. Always assumed that TIE fighters lack of shields/hyperdrive gave them not only high speed and maneuverability but a low sensor signature, making them stealthy too.

[@CanadianPale]

I never assumed TIEs lacked for shields.

[@MichaelCorryFilms]

​​@@CanadianPaleThey do lack shields. Not explicitly stated in the first movie but it's in the following radio play, books, video games etc.

[@CanadianPale]

@@MichaelCorryFilms _They do lack shields. Not explicitly stated in the first movie..._ Nor established elsewhere in the succeeding movies so far as I recall. The examples drawn from lesser, non-G-canon media are not relevant.

[@martincosta790]

The last Revel pilot selfie!!

[@manuelgrothe608]

0:06 Garrick Versio: “Piett, you fool”

[@wll1500]

1:00 I like how the Y-wing bags 2 TIE Interceptors. That's a boss pilot lol

[@Jeremy-f3s]

Especially considering Y Wings are sposed to be bombers not fighters.

[@wll1500]

@@Jeremy-f3s The Y-wings were basically completely obsolete by this point. The bulk of the Alliance's supply of Y Wings was quite literally saved from the trash. They're hardy and reliable, but very slow and unmaneuverable. They were used primarily as bombers due to this. On the other hand, the Interceptor was *the* quickest and most maneuverable dedicated fighter in frontline Imperial service. It's absolutely hilarious that a Y wing bagged 2 of them

[@Jeremy-f3s]

@@wll1500 yup so you've just reiterated my point, thanks.

[@wll1500]

@@Jeremy-f3s bro, we're nerding about star wars spaceships. I hope you didn't expect any social tact lmao

[@Jeremy-f3s]

@@wll1500 I didn't expect to have my point restated no.

[@vikingshark2634]

The face of someone who didn't know that the green screen behind her was later going to include two TIE and she was going to be exploded in post.

[@tlotpwist3417]

Alliance guy: "told you rear view mirrors COULD be useful in space!"

[@richardtaillon1616]

Anyone who read the X-Wing novel series by Michael A. Stackpole is just going, 'A-Wing pilots.. right.'

[@MrTimelord77]

The one thing that also got me was that they were called Red, but An A-Wing and Y-Wing were shown. I thought that one color meant one ship to identify who was where in the battle. I did notice as a child that the doomed pilot looked a little too pretty to be a man, but the rest of the battel distracted me.

[@kevino6618]

The explanation is that Red (Rogue) Squadron losses prior to Endor were replaced with whatever fighters were available. Thus you have an A-wing and a Y-wing as Wedge's wingmates. Also, a quirk of Wedge's squadron management style was that he'd take the rookies as his wingmate to try and teach them stuff they don't learn in training.

[@MrTimelord77]

@@kevino6618 Makes sense. I never got too much into the expanded lore because it kept changing. At least Wedge had good company while they lasted.

[@ImaginaryTerrie3]

I never noticed. The scene went by so fast and I've watched the movie so many times that I never really looked at the details.

[@kevingonzalez3673]

She gives no Ducks. She was like," I dead."

[@tk-6967]

I don't think she was unbothered, she was just super focused on the battle.

[@seancunningham8571]

“You’ve got two Ties behind you!” “I missed the part where that’s my problem.”

[@thomaskositzki9424]

In real-life flying, the RAF has a tradition of keeping their expression cool even in the most horrific situations. There is a video of internal communications aboard a Lancaster Bomber over Germany on YT. The lads keep it really casual, despite being in the gravest of mortal danger. Even calling out night fighters like it is nothing to wory about. I guess the attitude is "Panic just makes it worse, so DON'T PANIC." Real professionals, real madlads. Maybe this scene and attitude was intentionally modeled after reality. BTW: Americans often got all hot and bothered instead.

[@mexcavazos]

Can I borrow your time machine. Just want to check the British expressions at the tail end of the Revolutionary War for a second....

[@inisipisTV]

They dubbed all the rebel pilots so they'll have an American accent, since Goerge was aiming for that American WW2 war film look. Since the film was filmed in England, they have use a lot of English actors. Even the actor who played Wedge (the phoney and the real) were dubbed in the first Star Wars, the actor later gained a decent American accent in TESB and TROTJ, so he used his own voice.

[@seawind930]

That Y-wing getting two Interceptors is going full revenge "They ain't pretty but they're tough".

[@krisius1]

I always thought it was a David Bowie type character

[@mawkishdave]

That was* the face of someone who doesn't fear death

[@HuntzerH_123]

I always thought this pilot looked like Michael Jackson 😂

[@Ahandleofrum]

Lucas was obsessed with WWII fighters. Observation and situational awareness were key back then, so this is very accurate. Poor observation and awareness = death.

[@danieldb631]

I'm guessing they needed another shot, didn't have it, had this other test footage and needed it to fill in the scene. Like something the post production team had to throw together at the last minute before release. Although, if I remember correctly, all that A-wing test footage suggested A-wings could carry Proton torpedoes and they were working to destroy a Star Destroyer or something like that. There was also a lot of cut B-wing footage, from what I could tell.

[@timewaster504]

situational awareness of a dead hamster

[@1st_SGT_Bussey]

Well to be fair she does say "my scope's negative, where is he??" In the undubbed clip

[@sixyears]

No No "I will Hit the Breaks He'll fly right by"😄

[@kwu2242]

stay frosty. RIP Cila DeLaQun

[@DraconimLt]

What confuses me the most is why an A-wing and Y-wing appear to be part of Red Squadron, which was supposed to be all X-wings...

[@Agent1W]

"If you pick one up, WATCH it!" --Red 5

[@siatelecomsltdLondon]

I remember thinking exactly the same thing. You have two TIE fighters in your sights and the pilot is behaving like it isn't a big deal.

[@joetrent4753]

It's obvious, the longer unused green screen clip has different dialogue and they clearly just took a small section of it and added Tie Interceptors to the final brief cut. Nothing more complicated than that.

[@michaelkossin2765]

Many pilots in real life have been shot down by enemies they didn't even see behind them.

[@hammerhead8318]

Fascinating. Good video!

[@ThomasOfTheWarband]

It was brief, and the shadow on her face made the voice match well. I never would have noticed.

[@ericpalacios920]

Reminds me of the old lego star wars games where all the NPC rebels and imperials just had a blank 😐 face even when dying

[@luizwantsaguitar]

This guy (a woman in reality and in the From a Certain Point of View), was scared shitless and was certain she was done for, she had just saved a squad member seconds ago, tried to evade the “blips” in her radar when she realized she couldn’t outrun them as they were interceptors and not just TIE’s, died thinking her last moments of her deceased lover.

[@darkmaster9936]

Bro already knew he was cooked.

[@teekayfourtwoone4686]

Eck: That's the face of a person who doesn't fear death. Me: That's the face of a totally oblivious person who doesn't check their six.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

Reminds me of the Helicopter pilot from the first Modern Warfare; she gets hit by a rocket, and as her helicopter spins around, about to crash, she says "We're going down" almost as if it was supposed to be followed by "Yeup, that's definitely happening, but oh boy does this bagle taste good."

[@thekingofwaffles8403]

Well, Even the *Star Wars Universe* needs a Leroy Jenkins in it....

[@joesworld396]

The overdub voice, and the look of the actress, made me think for a while that this was Matthew Broderick.

[@spadekun9899]

It might be a bad cut, because I'm pretty sure the pilot doesn't die there, I'm pretty sure she's the one who crashes into the Super Star Destroyer when the bridge deflector Shield is down

[@daschwah]

Nah, that’s Arvel Crynyd. Guy who shows up at 1:02 of this vid.

[@spadekun9899]

You're right, I think it's the voice over the confused me. I probably always thought they were the same person because of the voice sounded so similar

[@CABRALFAN27]

@@spadekun9899 I think they were overdubbed by the same person.

[@yammt3148]

Hated how that pilot eventually died. Him and Wes were tearing it up.

[@cornpowa]

I have seen this movie probably 100 times and I never realized that was a woman. Maybe they figured it looked bad having a bunch of women dying on screen or maybe even just being in combat. Vietnam wasn't even a decade behind them, the Falklands war was the year before it was released, they probably just decided to play it safe.

[@darkdruidsvale]

another comment mentions an interview with someone who worked on the film and when asked they said that was a mistake do to lack of audio attached with the film (and they wherent told about her being female either apparently)

[@CanadianPale]

_Maybe they figured it looked bad having a bunch of women dying on screen or maybe even just being in combat._ I've heard that test audiences reacted poorly to the women's death screams as their fighters were incinerated by enemy fire, hence they were almost all cut except for "Sila Kott" who got overdubbed with a male voice.

[@ALmizzle415]

I thought that was Jodi fosters mom.

[@Doncroft1]

I always thought the pilot was unaware he was about to get shot down. Which is rough.

[@lonestar6709]

That's the face of an actor in a scene, when Lucas doesn't speak with his special effects department!

[@T34-E]

Dang you know what tho, I loved that scene because it felt real. Like something that would happen in real combat, not everyone is an ace. Especially the rebellion. It reminded me of the scene from saving Private Ryan where the solder was with the radio, Sgt tappa him, he turns, to relay a message, radio man turns back, Sgt tappa him again and bam face is gone lol The rebel pilot not knowing he was milliseconds away from death gave it realism to me.

[@T34-E]

Tapps*

[@falloutgamer347]

As a finnish person "tappa" was a fun word mixed in there. "Tappaa" means to kill so it wasnt that far off

[@tehpanda64]

admittedly, the screams and acting on all the pilots are so good in the OT that I don't even care if they made a mistake dubbing a dude over a chick.

[@Cloofinder]

Pilot: Got 'em! Tie interceptor pilots: No we got you! Y-Wing pilot: No I Got YOU (two)!

[@BeardLAD]

“What’s my motivation, George”

[@Dessian1st]

I like that he doesn't give a damn about his imminent death.

[@sweetreamer5101]

Flying the a-wing: the thinking man's suicide.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

I always thought that’s David Bowie

[@andresilvasophisma]

They were using the A-Wing as bait. The Y-Wing was the real predator.

[@claudiusarnellius2465]

Actually, it is very common for people who are in life-threatening situations to subconsciously switch the gender of their voice switch. It's a coping mechanism that helps them remain calm.

[@funkervogt47]

Maybe he just didn't know the danger he was in.

[@PlayersPurity]

You gotta admit back then they didn't show women in wars fighting in the fronts, like how in ESB the only women I saw in the Rebelion were the ones inside the echo base with Leia. It's good that they have added female rebels and imperials that also fight in the front, but back then movies didn't do that like they do nowdays. But I think it was simply a mistake that's all.

[@randomobserver8168]

"Aliens" in 1986 was actually fairly pioneering in having 3 female marines in combat jobs. Unless I'm thinking of the same woman twice- but I think there were 3. At least two.

[@The_Fat_Controller.]

_Battlestar Galactica_ in 1978 and _Buck Rogers_ in 1979 put women in cockpits.

[@mexcavazos]

Veterans are still human and facing certain death unnerves even the hardest fighter. This pilot is laser focused on her objective and misses those interceptors. I can hear Drill Sergeant barking at her about complacency as she transforms into a fireball.....