ECLIPSE is CONFRONTED in VRCHAT

[@Astro_Orbitz]

Eclipse: "What am I, a dog to you?" Moon: "Yes."

[@Local._.BreadLeader]

I died when I heard that 😂

[@Saintpentiousofficial]

Bark

[@Local._.BreadLeader]

@@Saintpentiousofficial OH MY- 😭💀 (it's even one of my favorite characters-)

[@Saintpentiousofficial]

@@Local._.BreadLeader what?

[@ilovemy_husbands]

⁠@@Local._.BreadLeadersame😭😭😭😭😭 I really hope we see him in season 2

[@Nightmaresalife]

6:16 I highly doubt that Lunar would choose to be a star and leave his family and friends behind, but let's see what happens when that topic comes up.

[@indodinoyoutube]

I could see him doing it to protect them maybe...

[@IdavinkiI]

He doesn't have to leave them, he could ask them to become a star to protect that family specifically

[@EmilySpiritExT]

If Evil Eclipse stays alive I can see Lunar running away to be a star to escape the monster.

[@cosmic_strawberry]

I would cry so hard if that happens 😢

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@cosmic_strawberry Yeah. Same.

[@galacticfox2319]

"Get the actual F**k away from my boyfriend- oh and star power two.." -Castor Rn

[@MichaelAft-n]

funniest thing i read all day XD

[@Candycanes151]

Fr 😂

[@Phephezmedia]

So true

[@OddyTheTherian]

Omg ye

[@tanyamoller8067]

What did he actually say that

[@Bonniethebunny]

Once again, i think Evil Sun was the one who made him. An outside individual, one from a different dimension, and very different from the Suns we have met outside the base dimension as well. Evil Sun is also the only one who got information from Moon which means he got information about Eclipse as well, and built him off of what he got from Moon. Jumbled memories, his behavior. We know the last Eclipse was tired of everything before he finally died. I doubt he would have wanted to come back. He was forced to, and acted on what little he could to ask for help. Even him accepting Moon's deal. It'll at least keep him around long enough to get his answers and get back at his creator. Which, i believe is ultimately what he wants in the end. The other stuff is coming from his directives. I am also very annoyed they haven't touched on those again since that video.

[@Bubblexmc22]

Why would evil sun start stuff with them?

[@indodinoyoutube]

@@Bubblexmc22 That's the big question, isn't it...

[@indodinoyoutube]

I'm between Ruin's creator and Evil Sun currently. I'm curious what the directives are. They seem to target Ruin, which leans me towards Ruin's creator... but if the directive is separate and focused on Moon, then it's definitely Evil Sun. Just depends on what that directive is... Also, WHY? Why would Evil Sun do this? What does he want?

[@Froggy-uu1cy]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING. all the information leads back to what evil sun knows and maybe the reason why he built eclipse is because he wants something or someone from them

[@indodinoyoutube]

@@Froggy-uu1cy Or just because he hates Moon. That's also a possible motive.

[@quix3w_578]

I Love how Castor is better at threating Eclipse with hurting his boyfriend then him using ungodly star power. Like Castor makes it so obvious he doesn't give a shit about The Star power, and more on Lunar and I love that.

[@Seren798]

Wait lunar and castor are dating?

[@StarryxVal]

​@The_real_mewothey mean that Lunar and Castor (and Pollux) might start dating

[@quix3w_578]

@Seren798 Its not technically Canon yet but it might be in the future

[@quix3w_578]

@@Seren798 its Lunar and Gemini, which is just Castor and Pollux together

[@sade-w5k]

there not dating yet i think. right?

[@ayyyimmaninja]

oh oh oh this was so interesting!!! So Eclipse found his magic pool, on a desolate island. And it's made from copying Moon's runes. Who knew magic could be copied like that? Eclipse was practically spooked, terrified even, when seeing Castor. And confirmation that this Eclipse is not the prior one. Which means he is by all technicalities guilt-free of his predecessor's actions. So he's being blamed and tormented for the things his past self did. Which is very sad Q_Q Cas knows who brought him back. And Cas also knows that "expediting" Eclipse's death will only quicken the end of the universe--ALL THE MORE REASON NOT TO KILL HIM. And I believe the one who's "not as kind", Cas is referring to the supposed 13th Constellation. Ophiuchus. Sidenote, apparently Gemini and Taurus have past beef, it seems. I wonder...since Astrals can reincarnate, did Taurus kill a previous Gemini? "The key is dimensions." "Someone not of my cosmos." So the one who built Eclipse is someone not from our dimension. I am staring VERY hard at Ruin right now.

[@Solars.number1fan]

Or someone from Solar's dimension maybe? Because remember how Solar saw Eclipse being in his dimension and Monty talking about telling someone more? So it's either Ruin or someone from Solar's dimension. Or it's someone who knows about the magic pool (Old Moon's magic pool).

[@rainpuppy14]

Ruin is still a potential possibility that also eliminates certain suspects like Vanny because everybody kept saying she was the one who brought him back

[@Solars.number1fan]

​@@rainpuppy14 But Vanny is from this dimension so I'm unsure about her. It's either someone from Solar's dimension in my opinion at least or it is in fact Ruin.

[@wdsfunlife9698]

I’m ’m kinda leaning on the evil sun considering he did coped moons information about the star and magic and could have potentially replicated his and moons code and gave eclipse his own memories so that while moon and his family are busy he can work on his star that work in other universes

[@StaryMondays]

Ooooo-! That's a really good theory- evil sun may become a big character I think-

[@InvisibleEclips3]

ECLIPSE LOREE WHOOO!!‼️ MAN THE THUMBNAIL - ITS JUST SO COOL!!✨🗣️ GIVE THE ARTIST A RAISE‼️‼️ LITERALLY THE THUMBNAIL ITS JUST SO ✨✨✨✨✨

[@Chrissercombe]

I wish you luck eclipse you'll need it 5:37Over protective much ain't ya castor😅 A negative constellation?? Probably A new villian huh interesting

[@Chrissercombe]

😏😏😏😏

[@tHeARoToYoUrAcE]

Seeing eclipse get confronted fills you with determination.

[@kelliewify]

lol, great reference my guy

[@mossyboii-.-]

13:25 Okay I have a theory, it's Prickdrop (aka Solar's Moon) One we know Eclipse died at Solar's old home and he was there at some point, and he is the only one who has Vendetta against someone in our dimension aka Solar.

[@Solars.number1fan]

That's very true but Solar was knocked out after his Moon died. And it's obvious that Solar's code was used to remake Eclipse. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed someone from Solar's dimension.

[@mossyboii-.-]

@@Solars.number1fan Yeah Good point ^-^

[@lluminoustar]

i thought of this too!

[@EmilySpiritExT]

First off, love it your calling that rotten Moon that as I had coined that name for him. Haha, it’d be hilarious if that’s true because the evil cockroach is wasting time and energy for someone who has already died!

[@mossyboii-.-]

@@EmilySpiritExT Yeah I'm pretty sure Prickdrop is basically his fannon name now.

[@Lunar_Eclipse280]

Let’s all appreciate how overprotective Castor is over Lunar, it just shows how deep Gemini cares for Lunar. Castor would hurt anyone with hurts Lunar in anyway. Castor and Pollux (Gemini) is now officially is the “Lunar Protection Force”

[@Echostar4315]

I love how much castor cares for Lunar he doesn’t show it as much is Pollux it’s very cute. Also, do you think it was blood moon who made a eclipse it could also be the other ruin

[@Lunar_Eclipse280]

@@Echostar4315 yeah it’s sweet

[@StarryxVal]

​@@Echostar4315definitely wouldn't have been bm. I don't think he's smart enough to build people, and he wouldn't want him back anyway

[@Lunar_Eclipse280]

@@StarryxVal However the old Ruin would have. We have to remember that the old Ruin (virus) was evil

[@StarryxVal]

@@Lunar_Eclipse280 ik he was evil but I don't think he would bring him back either. The only reason to bring him back would be to annoy sun and moon, but he still wanted bm on his side, and bringing eclipse back would have turned bm against him probably

[@gundamgamer7060]

So the one who made this iteration of Eclipse is NOT from their universe/cosmos? Maybe the Psychopath Sun that New Moon ran into made him, after all. Also, the reveal of the Wither Storm merely being the "offspring" of a _dark_ Constellation (probably Ophiucus) is pretty chilling.

[@-BL00DMOON-]

OMG YES 0:00 Different music 0:05 Eclipse? 0:39 Woah 1:04 Moon!! 1:39 What? 1:51 Stop bro chill 2:20 Oh 2:50 Nahhh💀 Moon💀💀💀 3:15 CASTOR!?!? HELLO 4:48 Oh wow 4:51 Yeah but those are other universes though, not this one 5:07 Fr

[@SUNNYSTARZ_X3]

7:29 HELP WHY DOES CASTOR LOOK LIKE A DEER IN THAT BACROUND IT ALL JUST GOES TOGETHER LIKE A CHEFS KISS XD

[@flowerchild7027]

I love how terrifying Castor CHOSE to be to freak out Eclipse

[@TheWorldIsBurning11]

Guys at 6:11 yall need to see the similarities between Eclipse voice and a hair comb being plucked at💀

[@Ash9o11]

Fr tho

[@-f41ry-.]

Eclipse sounds like he’s been smoking for 78 years

[@Daisy-drawsshiz]

Ok,he’s on something,I don’t know what,but it’s SOMETHING😭

[@KaisCreationStation]

@@-f41ry-.real .

[@KaisCreationStation]

@@Daisy-drawsshizhe’s a chain smoker 💯

[@JHellraiser]

With that hint, I still say it's Evil Sun. The computer couldn't block his dimension and he could have gone to Solar's dimension disguised as 'Eclipse' to throw people off. And Evil Sun wanted to create his own star that could be used in any dimension, could see that as a threat most definitely.

[@Aaaag-dk4bg]

MOREEEEEEEE LOREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! And Caster being protective of Luner is making me scream! And a new VILLON? Negitve astrological body person thing's idk.

[@Kame-o75]

Hey hey hey wait. He said. "EVEN IF I HATED LUNAR--" does that mean he never hated Lunar?! He probably just doesn't have much feelings towards him? Or does he? Idk!?!?

[@w3idio_edits_anything]

We can create whole theory about that tho

[@gachabox3142]

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT I think he recalls having regrets in his previous life for what he did to Lunar but died before he could do anything about it

[@coffeeluvr]

seeing this 8 months later and i just noticed this too😭😭

[@norazemann6685]

Eclipse: what am i a dog to you Moon: yes Me:LMAO

[@SUNNYSTARZ_X3]

5:38 dam. A bit overprotective over ur boyfriend XD

[@nyctophile.astrophile]

Lunar and Caster Sitting in a tree~

[@Starry_sunstarzz]

HELP FR

[@OddyTheTherian]

H E L P

[@dominiquewaters4389]

😮❤❤😮😮❤😮❤😮❤😮❤😮❤😮😮❤😮

[@quite_wolf726]

lol you're not wrong 🤣😆

[@alethea5380]

5:37 CASTOR PROTECTING LUNAR LETS GO!! 6:11 raspy ass mofo 11:28 okay sasssss 12:05 This monologue is GOLDEN. "You're not staring at an individual, except somebody that wants to get even." 13:21 "The key is dimensions." mysterious ass

[@SUNNYSTARZ_X3]

13:37 A TRACE OF BLOODMOON!

[@NotMultiKonto]

I'm voting that it's that evil Sun (the one who pulled Moon inside the portal), he runned trought Moon's data base or whatever (i watched that episode long ago so i don't really remember) and he could find some info about Eclipse there, evil Sun mentioned that he wants to make a star that works in all universes if i remember correctly so he could build Eclipse as a distraction and go on a lookout while the others are busy, plus Castor mentioned that the key is dimensions sooooo i'm voting for evil Sun and if it's not evil Sun then i'm voting for Ruin

[@indodinoyoutube]

I'd vote Ruin's creator over Ruin tbh. Although the more I think, the more Evil Sun makes the most sense.

[@NotMultiKonto]

​well then now we have 3th vote with is Ruin's creator 👍

[@kuilanegarrido8302]

I love how Sun and Moon took something from MINECRAFT and made it THE thing to be avoided throughout the whole show.

[@Mygoat57]

Eclipses pov: oh, would you look at that, the consequences of my own actions!

[@Daycare_Attendant]

0:04 Clipsy! :D 0:33 That little laugh! 0:57 That’s an even better laugh! XD 1:01 LMAO XD 1:55 He keeps laughing so much 😭 2:38 His little laugh again! 2:56 “Bark” Why do I actually wanna see Eclipse barking? XD 3:13 CASTOR 3:22 THE WAY CLIPSY DID THAT LMAO 4:39 Please don’t hurt him, Castor 4:52 ECLIPSES BIG GIANT SMILE WHEN HE SAID THAT XD HE LOOKS SO PROUD OF HIMSELF 5:59 THAT LAUGH OMG 8:32 His little laugh and his face when he laughed XD 10:15 ANOTHER LAUGH 10:53 Another little laugh from him 13:14 He’s mad XD

[@Lunar-n-Solar_Show]

2:56 I shall make it-

[@StaryMondays]

I wanna see this.

[@NutellaBoiLunarr]

Oookkkaaaaaaayyy.. r u obbsesed with eclipse??

[@Daycare_Attendant]

@@NutellaBoiLunarr Um, yea…Same with Solar. Their both my favorites.

[@SuperCommando567]

3:56 I can confirm about Trials, cause it is also my responsibility, and it is a PAIN, but I go sometimes to those dimensions for fun.

[@Xxsunny_fl0werxX]

2:55 ECLIPSE BARK NOW! ❗️❗️❗️

[@izzysartscraftsbirds5698]

Castor - If you use star power again, there will be others to deal with you Also, Castor - If you touch my bae, Pollux, and I will kill you in the most brutal way possible.

[@purpur_flower-104]

WOOOOO, damn 5:57 does ophiuchus exist? If not then I guess that lunar would be technically ophiuchus 13:23 we have a lead guys, who could it be?

[@Solars.number1fan]

My tips are well, still Ruin (his virus though) or someone from Solar's dimension. I'm not sure about Evil Sun (people talk about him being a possible choice), but it would be so cool if it was him. Although we know now that whoever remade Eclipse needs to know him very well and also has to know about Old Moon's magic pool. Which leaves me questioned because I can't think of anyone😭

[@Stardogs_567_b]

​@@Solars.number1fanI remember that I once heard that it could have been solar's moon before well we all know what happened to solar's moon

[@Solars.number1fan]

@@Stardogs_567_b Maybe. But Solar was knocked out after his Moon already died. And he doesn't know Eclipse that well. I'm literally so unsure about who it could be rn. But I'm sure that whoever rebuilt Eclipse knows him very well. After all Eclipse knows everything that his past self did. Ruin watched the videos so it could be him, I mean his virus did. Other than that I literally don't know. Solar can be completely excluded before I see anyone bringing him up again.

[@EclipseMoon-uo6wi]

i mean just saying what if solar is not a nice Eclipse but a very smart one and is playing everyone tricking them idk honestly just saying my leads are Solar, and Ruin@@Solars.number1fan

[@Solars.number1fan]

@@EclipseMoon-uo6wi I don't see Solar as a possible choice. After all he was knocked out and his code was used to rebuild Eclipse. And he helped a lot and obviously cares about everyone here. He has no reason to do this. And why would he do this now? He had all the opportunity to hurt them but he never did and just helped them. And his whole character was introduced as the Nice Eclipse so if they made him evil then they would completely ruin that. They would completely ruin his character. I'm still thinking about Ruin's virus not being completely gone or being back. Or it's someone from Solar's dimension or at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was Evil Sun.

[@mortadelita]

I like eclipse's deep voice...

[@rosey5288]

Lunar and Gemini siting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g~(how did this get so many likes and comments)

[@-BL00DMOON-]

LUMINI

[@S41ty_dr4g0n5YT]

Nah

[@InvisibleEclips3]

LUMINI FOR REAL🗣️

[@rosey5288]

​@@-BL00DMOON-hhhiii

[@rosey5288]

​@@S41ty_dr4g0n5YTwhat do you mean "nah"

[@The_Rat_child]

5:37 caster protecting lunar vary cute❤❤❤❤❤

[@salty_pretzelz]

Castor protective of Lunar-

[@MuddiHasPawz]

Oooooh. This is just drama waiting to happen! Eclipse-confronted-because-yes 1:05 MOON 2:48 yeah, go back Eclipse 2:50 yes, you are a dog now, it's official 🤣 2:55 "bark b(bleeep)" *casually hangs up* 3:08 Wait, Castors here-? 5:33 Yes, don't touch Lunar, 'Clipsy 6:00 omg I love Eclipses laugh- 7:06 "unless..." 13:11 bye Castor Can't wait for the next lore episode!

[@laverna17]

Iv got 2 options. 1. Ruin 2. Evil Sun I have no idea who it could be!? There not from this dimension, and Its not Solar. If not Ruin, then WHO!? I really want to believe in Ruins' innocence, but it's not looking good for him! 😭

[@femalepapyrus]

Solars moon or God eclipse

[@lluminoustar]

even eclipse, the villain, could tell castor and pollux are protective over lunar. lumini canon.

[@TheFoolOfSpades]

Actually, on the mention of Lunar maybe becoming an astral body, does no one find it a bit odd how neutral Castor and Pollux were to talking about it. I can understand Castor not being phased, but Pollux always seems to be overly excited about new things. It doesn’t exactly make sense that she would be so indifferent to something they’ve never done before. Were they just born with the knowledge that others could join them, or has it been done before? Y’know, Nebula’s form looks a bit more human, doesn’t it?

[@tegandumpleton3360]

Good theory. Nebula always seemed the odd one out. She was sassy to Lunar about there being 12 Astrals, but what the heck is she then?

[@TheFoolOfSpades]

@@tegandumpleton3360 Well, assuming she was made into an astral body, she could easily be someone similar to Lunar who managed to gain star power through similar ways or she could be someone who had some obsession with stars and managed to figure out how to use star power like Sun and Moon do Or! I present a third, less-likely option: she was put on trial by the astral and managed to either win it or made a deal where she would work for them all

[@clovercutie]

You know it's a serious episode when they hit you with the dramatic music in the beginning

[@MichelleAftonGacha]

I am still not used to the fact that he's working with Moon and that he's not on the run 😭

[@TromboneEnthusiast]

Man love seeing Eclipse in episodes it warms my heart and also love to see Caster just being a loving boy and caring about Lunar! Also also LUNAR BECOMING A STAR HELLO?!? DUDE THATS PROBABLY GONNA BE REVEALED IN A COUPLE EPISODES BUT DANG!

[@TrickyBoy45]

Let this unknown being whom brought back Eclipse be Evil Sun, he makes the most sense

[@ezequielmoralesmedina7501]

True 😊

[@Solars.number1fan]

I'm unsure about him. Why would he bring Eclipse back and come to this dimension in the first place? And I don't think he knows about Old Moon's magic pool. Because whoever rebuilt Eclipse knows about it. And since this Moon doesn't remember that/knows about it, the possibility of Evil Sun seeing it because he has Moon's knowledge (let's call it that) isn't an answer to that. But tbh I'm still suspicious on Ruin or someone from Solar's dimension.

[@BoxOKittens]

I just don't want him to be a villain :( I don't think he's truly evil despite his nickname.

[@HereMays]

@@Solars.number1fanso you dont suspect evil sun because he hasn't seen old moon's magic pool... but you suspect ruin who also hasn't seen old moon's magic pool

[@EclipseMoon-uo6wi]

old ruin the virus could have watch allll the sun and Moon videos to know about it@@HereMays

[@Sceocca]

What the f-- This is one of the most mindblowing episodes ever. I love it. Also the most frustrating cliffhanger ... I'm aching to know who it is and more importantly, _why._ Love reading people's theories in the meantime.

[@Solars.number1fan]

You're not the only one, I'm literally so impatient at this point that I'm always going like "Oh damnit! Just tell us already who brought Eclipse back!" I'm so confused at this point that I don't even know who to think about being the possible choice for remaking Eclipse. But well at least we know now that whoever did it is from another dimension.

[@Sceocca]

​@Solars.number1fan Yeah it's crazily drawn out. I don't mind on one hand cause I love a complex plot, but on the other hand I wish there were more clues. Subtlety is great but this is maddening c':

[@Duskdrop666]

13:24 this is only making me think it's the Evil version of Sun even more

[@Moon_is_my_mental_state]

I feel like it's evil sun and maybe he's already the built the star and maybe using it to control or bring out the old evil side of Ruin and frame him. This is such a possibility to have 'Sun' to be a villain and I'm so rooting for it

[@Olive-BloodSun]

LORE LORE LORE LORE!! WE ALL LOVE LORE AND WE LOVE THE SUN AND MOON SHOW! Caster why can’t you give us a hint?? Key is dimensions? I place my bet on Evil Sun!

[@ozalee1st]

So, based on Caster's clue, I was like, "Ruin! It's Ruin!" But then I'm like, "Technically... Solar counts ?because he's from a different dimension....." I really hope it's not Solar.

[@rubyrose3032]

A theory I have been having seems to be accurate, the big villain for the Stars seems to be Ophiuchus. The serpent constellation and the 13th Zodiac. Things are getting interesting!

[@DomainofDawn]

[Castor] Killing you will only hasten the death of the universe. [My reaction] YAY we get to keep him!

[@Starr_06]

FINALLLYYYY, IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!! LITERALLY TALKED ABOUT WANTING MORE INFO ON THAT "HIM" DUDE CAS WAS ON ABOUT TO LUNAR AND IM 100% CERTAIN WE GOT MORE LORE ON HIM!! Castor said that a negative Constellation was made which I believe that is probably the 13th constellation called Ophiuchus. Ophiuchus is not an official/considered a Zodiac sign so that's why I believe that's the name of the Negative-constellation as Castor said "referring to the one on the outside". And I'm 100% this star is the same being Cas was on about to Lunar. (My knowledge of this kind of stuff is hopefully coming in handy-). This negative-constellation only seems to want to cause nothing but pain and destruction and doesn't actually have a reason why... if you want to see a long post about the Astral-bodies and Eclipse you can check them in my community post as I can’t be bothered to re-write it all and shorten it a bit in comments

[@starling1226]

Eclipse’s evil giggles are so cute

[@Daycare_Attendant]

I agree!

[@Kachan-0]

HOLY COW- THE THUMBNAIL LOOKS SO COOL I AM READY TO TRADE MY SOUL FOR IT. ALSO I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE CASTOR/POLLUX HELPING THE ECLIPSE SITUATION

[@marthelebon5917]

Omg castor is so protective , he love very much lunar~ ! It's so cute !>-

[@multinxmee__XD]

Who else thinks that Castor had another reason on why Eclipse shouldn’t touch Lunar

[@Neroo_fandom]

Me ✋️

[@andycosplays]

Me❤

[@bloodmoontwins]

Eclipse is about to have a mouthful from caster😂

[@Thesockghost]

WELL THIS WILL BE INTERESTING!!! 0:14 how tf- did he swim all the way to there??? 0:39 ya know I think there might be something up with that tree, can’t put my finger on why tho… 1:28 oh dang, so his magic really does emulate his personality! It sucks the life out of things like how he sucks the life out of everyone who’s ever meet him :) 1:53 oh f*ck off eclipse. 2:44 well I thought the end couldn’t get any deader but here we are folks! 3:12 ayyyyyy there he is!!! 3:45 waitwaitwaitholupholupholup, HES NOT THE SAME ECLIPSE???? 4:24 WELL HE SURE IS INTENDING TO DO THE SAME THINGS!!!!! 5:05 eclipse I suggest you maybe *dont* piss off the Eldridge deity 6:26 oh, so if lunar fails to not seem like a threat then he’ll be killed, but if he passes, then he’ll be turned into a god forced to work and fear death for a eternity. he is really royally f*cked ether way huh….. 7:14 wait……….HAHAHAHHAHAAHHA YES!!! WE WERE RIGHT!!! HE IS THE NEW STAR YES!!! oh wait that’s terrible fu- 8:43 wait how tf does he know about Taurus??? 10:01 antimatter. He’s talking about the antimatter. Castor pls don’t make it seem like some sort of edgy marvel villain- 11:08 WAIT CASTOR U KNOW???? WHO TF IS IT DUDE PLS TELL!!! 12:07 no sh*t Sherlock he told you that 8 minutes ago 12:55 wait- OH SH*T THE THEORISTS WERE RIGHT, IT IS EVIL SUN!!!! I HONESTLY THOUGHT YALL WERE ON CRACK WITH THAT ONE SINCE THE “evil dimension” EPISODES ARE USUALLY SELF CONTAINED, BUT HES THE ONLY PERSON WHO MAKES SENCE!!!!!

[@wocy_]

What if the og Eclipse that Sun expelled from his head is the one that made the circle of magic, and this Eclipse was actually built by the og one. Also knowing that there are astral bodies considered sons of the storm is so interesting, it's so much informations in one video I need time to process all of it😭

[@Solars.number1fan]

But if Original Eclipse is alive then why would he make another version of himself? You know I actually thought of this too but then I dropped it. If Original Eclipse is alive then I'm pretty sure that he would've built himself a new body. And Castor said that the key is dimensions. So it seems like whoever rebuilt Eclipse is from a different dimension. As much as I honestly want Original Eclipse back he doesn't make sense.

[@wocy_]

​@@Solars.number1fan Yeah I think it's probably not og Eclipse too, but also, it's not necessarily someone from a different universe. Yes Castor says "it's about dimensions" but before that he said that he doesn't consider Eclipse to be a part of this universe since he's not a real individual but just pieces of different people, so it might be someone else that Castor doesn't consider an actual individual like Eclipse? The only person I can think of is Ruin. He is only a combination of Sun and Moon, so not an actual individual and if he's still evil he would be smart enough to avoid getting caught easily.

[@BloodmoonAndLunarNumber1Fan]

OH MY HOLY ROLLIE POLLIE MY RAVIOLI WHAT IN THE WIGGLY WONDERFUL WILD WEST

[@SunnyDelight.]

😭-

[@viviplays7159]

lmao

[@starletnight2849]

Bro’s flabbergasted (I mean this in a positive way, not trying to be rude)

[@DinoandGalaxy]

💀❓

[@Dani-xg8hg]

JUST GOTTA SAY- I ABSOLUTELY LOVE❤ THE THUMBNAIL- I just luv Castors design ❤❤❤ ALSO- 5:34 WE ALL KNOW ITS NOT JUST BECAUSE HE IS “DEVELOPING”😅

[@Dollie_Moon]

OH?? 00:00 MUSIC?? 00:04 CLIPSE 0:59 O- 1:03 😭😭 1:50 ECLIPSEEE 2:42 😭 2:56 😃😃 2:59 goodluck buddy 3:12 CASTOR 3:22 CASTORR 3:23 HE SCARED 3:27 AHAKDJSÖKZ 4:18 Mhm 4:52 he did 5:37 HEHRGWCSHLAKGJRASRJ :3 :3 :3 5:56 NO??? 6:15 :(( 7:25 CASTOR PLEASE 7:46 AND if you told em he'd be dead quicker 8:36 yep 8:39 HE KNOWS 9:17 😭😭 9:22 pollux is 9:39 O?? 9:45 ONDŞSKD 10:19 O 10:23 AAAAA 10:43 GOSH 10:55 Maybe 12:26 mhm 13:14 he always listens yk? 13:33 hmn 13:40 THAT'D BE SUCH A HUGE PLOT TWIST THO "whos the creator now Eclipse?" LIKE GOSH

[@C.C.standsforChicolatechip]

5:41 look at castor defending his love😏

[@SUNNYSTARZ_X3]

LOL LUMNI FOR EVER

[@Scene_Staryy]

Eclipse don't go after lunar we don't need you dead!

[@TerraMcgarden]

Dimensions is key- so it could be Ruin. It would seriously suck if it was Solar but that wouldn't make sense especially from when he originally checked. I think I've finally figured a lead on if it's Ruin. It could be hes faking being cured. But i do think the screens are the big issue. Ruin was very obsessed with the static screens. Very to the point he was obsessed with his projects. He could have gotten Eclipse's info durring october. When Ruin was "cured" he tried to warn Moon "theres something on the screen". But Moon told him to not look at it. He should have paid attention. Because at that point that was Ruin cured. But he saw the screens. Whatever is on the screens is what I think is controlling him. Or was a backup code. Either way. I hope its a 2 in one situation. I really do. I hope its the merged personalities that are siplitting. Ruin was corrupted because of a virus, he did deserve to be cured. But now.. if he truly is turning this into an act I will accept it.

[@KC3Lay]

IS CASTER REFERRING TO PUPPET?!?!!?!! Oh, and Caster defending Lunar was absolutely adorable!

[@Eternalbeingg]

I knew I had a feeling of this person being from a different dimension.. now we’re narrowing it down to someone in solars dimension or evil sun.

[@AngryDinoRawr16]

Okay… I have an outlandish theory that there is no way makes any sense, but I need to share it. What if Solar made Eclipse. I know it sounds crazy, but Eclipses are known to be actors. When Solar came to this dimension, he continuously asked if Lunar, Earth, Moon or Sun wanted to play games with him. He was obviously very lonely, and was turned down most of the time. He spends most of his time hunting Bloodmoon, working on the computers and just being alone. It doesn’t take much for someone to make a bad decision because they’re lonely. I don’t think Solar is evil, we would have had a hint by now. I think Solar made Eclipse to give the celestial family reason to spend time with him. Solar has popped up in multiple videos now that Eclipse is back. When he made Jack, he made many errors, which might have been a ploy to spend more time around Lunar. The puzzle Eclipse made let him spend time with Moon. The interrogation or Ruin let him spend time with Ruin and Moon. I think he might just be lonely, and taking things into his own hands. He’s talked in the past about not being able to do magic, which would explain the copied circle, and the ‘dimensions’ clue could be because he’s from a different dimension. Castor also said how he was a very interesting individual, which I think Solar fits that description perfectly. I know it’s stupid, but it’s all I’ve been able to think about 🥲

[@Solars.number1fan]

Oh it's not stupid at all! And it's actually a very, veryyy good theory! Although, I'm pretty sure that it's not Solar and I'm holding onto it. Not only because he's my favorite character but also because he doesn't make sense to me. Solar is not stupid and he knows that bringing Eclipse back would be the worst possible choice to ever make and make literally everyone (especially Lunar) hate him, even if he's lonely I don't think he would ever do this. And he didn't have anyone in his own dimension but here all he gets is kindness and there weren't any hints of him being evil. And another thing, he clearly showed that he hates Eclipse with passion and wants him dead. As soon as Eclipse came back and Eclipse got trapped he wanted to kill him immediately. And also Solar is not the only one who doesn't know magic. The very interesting individual also suits Ruin or Evil Sun too. Ruin is completely different from them and Evil Sun is very different from many Sun's as we know and is very interesting tbh. I really like this theory btw!

[@AngryDinoRawr16]

Solars my favorite tooo!!! Yeah, he’s most likely not evil. I know he’s really smart and knows the deep trouble he would get himself into. It was one of my three a.m. crazy ideas 😭 I was also thinking about it possibly being evil Sun. But my question is, how would he have gotten Eclipse’s memories? He most likely didn’t recreate them due to little of Eclipses personal life being on the show, which without those memories he would have had a huge personality change. So he has to have gotten his hands on some sort of memory file or chip. Maybe he was working with Solars Moon before he died? I don’t really know. I’m just soooo sad to see Solar so lonely and I’m desperate for him to be more than a plot device they use when something needs to be done!!!😭

[@rainpuppy14]

Except I don’t want to be a Debbie downer. There’s one little thing that disproves solar is the one who did it. His cold was the one that was used and he was knocked out, unless he knocked himself out, which I highly doubt somebody knocked him out and used his code.

[@AngryDinoRawr16]

Eclipses have always been actors, I know it’s a far stretch 😅

[@teansushi4793]

That would be an interesting turn of events! Now I kinda wanna know what would happen if this theory was true :o

[@thegamergrookey2268]

When Castor said the key is dimensions, people will point at Ruin, but has nobody even relise that it could mean Evil Sun is the one behind it

[@wolfiredreamyt5481]

Castor saying ''The key is dimensions'' just makes me think that the evil Sun made him- or the creator from the Ruin dimension- i don't think anybody of Solar's original dimension would know about the evil Eclipse so yeah-

[@psychoticmacaroniman]

Ngl I kinda hope its evil sun he’s interesting

[@sunshine_has_rabies]

Wait, maybe Ruin actually did rebuild Eclipse. Ruin is from a different dimension, he doesn't know magic, but can make perfect replicas of something, as seen with the barrier. And current Ruin is technically a duplicate of both his first self and the virus. So maybe Ruin did rebuild Eclipse?

[@HereMays]

but one problem ruin doesn't watch the episodes so how would he have gotten blue prints for the magic pool

[@sunshine_has_rabies]

@@HereMays We don't 100% know that he didn't watch the old videos. He knew that Old Moon had trapped Sun in a magic barrier/box, so how sure can we be that he doesn't know about the magic pool?

[@HereMays]

@@sunshine_has_rabiesi mean he doesn't have any memories of bringing back eclipse and no he didn't delete memories

[@sunshine_has_rabies]

@@HereMays Though Solar(or Moon, I don't remember which one) said that Old Ruin may have made him as a backup plan for if Sun and Moon got rid of him. Maybe there was a certain time/day he had him to auto-power up.

[@AvaDoezStuff]

WHY DID I HAVE A DREAM EXACTLY LIKE THIS. 💀

[@Evening_Star6]

You're a psychic lol

[@AvaDoezStuff]

@@Evening_Star6 lol.

[@Starays]

So Castor recognizes that this isn’t the same Eclipse that did everything he did in his past incarnations and thus is cleared of his past crimes despite having the memories.. Anyways, with the tidbit of a hint Castor gave Eclipse as to who his creator might be, our candidates have been narrowed down to characters not from our dimension, and that doesn’t clear Ruin from our list of suspects..

[@SUNNYSTARZ_X3]

Castor always seem so calm-

[@Maria_Drop]

Yeah I definitely know now Castro has a crush on lunar

[@sarahthewolf2017]

CONFRONTED?? BY CASTOR??? LETS SEE HOW THIS GOES-

[@ArtsyDummy_01]

13:23 ...Lord Eclipse?!...or Evil Sun?!(maybe not bc what could you stop him from?)...myb the creator from Ruin's dimension?!

[@Zer0FNaFUndertalelover]

Eclipse is more like a cat than a dog, personality wise.

[@xPoisonedStardustx]

LOREEE HAHAHAHHAHAHA 2:55 “yeah, yeah, yeah, bark bch” 😭 3:12 CASTOR!! Oh boy, I bet they have a lot to say 4:53 yeah, and try do it in this universe. I dare you. 5:35 OHHH yeah, TRY touch Lunar. TRY. IT. 6:06 you KNEW Lunar. The Lunar now is way better than you will ever be. 7:30 no duh. use that brain you brag about so much. 7:50 I’m sorry but Castor being so short compared to Eclipse either makes this more funny or more threatening 9:00 ..what does Taurus, Libra and Leo do?? I need lore and designs ASAP 9:36 THERES ANOTHER?! OTHER THAN THE CONSTELLATIONS?! 9:53 ..that makes sense I guess.. 10:07 THE STORM IS THE *CHILD* ?! 10:42 DAMN THATS ONE WAY TO GO OUT- 11:02 CASTOR PLEASE WE NEED LORE 11:45 ..he’s a bit- 12:30 Atleast he’s self aware 12:45 ????? I’m so confusedd 13:30 who 👏 made👏this👏bi-👏

[@viviplays7159]

I have a theory that it was evil sun that made eclipse since he copied stuff from moon, some of that stuff could be info on eclipse

[@Evening_Star6]

@viviplays7159 yeah I think it was evil Sun too

[@Batsy_NightMare]

Lunar : Yay I get favoritism from my boyfr- I mean my possible lover

[@Rosey_flowers-13]

Dang Castor you really do care for lunar showing more care😊

[@Sun.and.the.Moon.]

MOREEE LOREEEEE

[@sonychatha5828]

​@ivy.and.willow YIPPEE

[@emilythehedgehoggirl6321]

It has to be evil Sun… The runes were copied the only people who knew those runes were Moon, maybe KC, Sun when he got a fragment of Golden Freddy’s soul, and Golden Freddy himself. The runes are too personal for Ruin to know them. Only the copied memories from Moon makes sense.

[@MewMewBomb]

……I feel like Eclipse has his answer already, about who made him. In his words (at 12:11 ), “Everything is copied. Nothing of this body is original. I’m copied off of Sun, and the memories of another, my own flesh here ripped and stripped off of fazcade arcade machines.” His body is made out of arcade machine parts, and whoever made him isn’t from the home dimension. The only person I can think of who’s not from the home dimension and frequently tinkers with arcade machines is Ruin.

[@HereMays]

cannot be because he doesn't know how to make old moon's magic pool

[@K4T_LUV3R]

Seeing eclipse meet castor and pollux fills you with determination

[@natka1180]

From Castor hint's I believe it's save to asume it's someone from another dimension who re-created Eclipse. Which eliminates Stitchwraigh, Creator, Mimics and any danger from this dimension. Solar and Ruin are still not of the hook (but I doubt any of them done it honestly), as they both come from different dimensions. Ruin's dimension is presumebly dead at this time, so anyone from there is out of question. It could be someone from Solar's dimension, as his Monty seemed to know something, before he died, which if it's the case, the return of Eclipse might not be to spite Sun and Moon, but to Spite Solar. People from other dimensions, such are Evil Sun are possible suspects as well. The most likely option I believe is someone from Solar's universe.

[@rainpuppy14]

Solar is off the hook. Remember he was the one that got knocked out and his code was the one that was used and he hates eclipse with a passion why would he bring someone that he absolutely despises back sun and moon has shown him nothing but kindness why would he do that

[@Solars.number1fan]

Just like how @rainpuppy14 said Solar is definitely off the hook. He literally has no reason to bring Eclipse back and his code was used to remake him. And he also helped around too much. It obviously shows that he cares about everyone here. The possible choices are rn: Evil Sun, Ruin (his virus not being completely gone or being back is still in the deck), someone from Solar's dimension, which wouldn't surprise me considering how much they hated Solar there:') and also the fact that Solar's Monty knew something and Solar saw Eclipse being in his dimension.

[@pictureperefect]

I’m so used to hearing his voice and thinking thats Solar and then when Moon answered the phone with a what do you want i immediately realised it was Eclipse. 😂

[@Inky_Kuro]

Interesting that he referred to the 'plex as *home.* I wouldn't expect that of him. I'm still convinced it was Ruin who made Eclipse. Solar hated his guts and wouldn't bring him back, Solar's Moon was probably too obsessed with fixing his Sun and then building a portal to bring to life a different Eclipse, Stitchwraith just seems too smart for such nonsense, same for Evil Sun. I just wish they would finally cut the mystery and finally give us the answer, because the dragging out of the mystery has *killed* its appeal.

[@rainpuppy14]

It’s not stitch cast just gave us a big hint. He said none of this dimension whoever built him isn’t from this dimension stitch is from this dimension

[@EmilySpiritExT]

Exciting and sad for Lunar to become the 13th zodiac star sign. But I'm SO CURIOUS what his star sign would BEEEEEEEEEEE! x3 What could his trademark symbol be?! I would hope it to be Spigot!!!! x3 That's be so cute! Also reindeer can be fierce!!!! So double trouble there!

[@mortadelita]

Eclipse just beaing a baby for 14 min

[@BoxOKittens]

If a certain someone has been playing a certain long game all this time I WILL punch my keyboard in pure excitement

[@jorjak2906]

COULD IT BE EVIL SUN?? Copied moon's memories so could know how to make the circle and isn't from this dimension

[@Echoofaheart]

11:08 my immediate thought was Trashcanman for some reason. He's not even on my list of suspects. The list of traits on whoever made Eclipse just reminded me of him, and I immediately blurted it out loud.

[@_slaVei]

I hope SO MUCH that Polux and Castor are considered one people that divided in two

[@AutisticSunny]

Theory: What if Sun brought Eclipse back? Because since Eclipse said that Moon’s magic was copied and if we think back to before Moon offed, Golden Freddy gave Sun something so that way he could remember the right symbols to bring back the magic. And if I remember correctly, the thing that Golden Freddy gave Sun never went away so what if Sun in a desperate attempt to bring Moon back somehow found that spot and tried to bring him back by engraving those symbols after BM went away so that way he could focus and he was sure not to mess up. But then it just ended up making something or someone that he hated. Or maybe he made it himself although I don’t know why he would’ve but if we think about it, Sun isn’t good at all at making animatronics. But what if he found some sort of blue print that maybe Ruin (before he got cured) had made as a back up plan for both of them and maybe Sun just went off of that but obviously not doing as good of a job. The reason why I say it maybe a blue print of old ruin is because he made a weak spot for blood moon Incase he crossed him so maybe he made that weak point for eclipse as a back up just incase he crossed him but obviously not as visible because he knows that eclipse is smart enough to be able to fix himself. Sorry if any of this made no sense😁

[@AlexandraNeedsSleep]

*LORE!!!!!* (I’ll probably edit this later for more^^)

[@wildfoxstyle90]

OHHOW I LOVE ECLIPSE SOOO. MUCH!!!❤❤❤😍 I love how he handled this situation… This made me so excited for what’s to come next!! I hope realizes the key is dementionsat the end might mean that he was made by someone from another demention and it isn’t apart of his cosmos, his world, his demention, and the 2 ppl I can think of that aren’t from this demention is Solar and Ruin. So…. Ya.❤❤❤

[@LocalFNAFidiot]

Lunar and gemini siting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g.LUNAR X GEMINI

[@SpidersSongs]

ECLIPSE DONT FEED THE SIMPS!!!!!!!!

[@teansushi4793]

Too late lol

[@happyflowerdemon8565]

I still think it's evil Sun. Or an alternate version of Eclipse

[@MiguelMadriz-Mendoza]

Omg, the 13th zodiac. It's Ophiuchus: the serpent-bearer, they must be who Castor is taking about 💀💀