Eddie Van Halen: The Hagar Years

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@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
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@AutismRocksOfficial
@AutismRocksOfficial 5 ай бұрын
Just saw the Sammy Hagar Best of All Worlds tour this past week where he sang mostly Van Halen songs. It was AMAZING. Man is 76 years old and still rocking 🔥🤘.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
Jazz hands!!!! 👋👋 That is very cool that you got to see him. Absolutely right - Sammy keeps rocking. Must have been a great show. Thanks for sharing that, cheers Danny & Micah!
@nolarobert
@nolarobert 6 ай бұрын
5150, OU812, and F*U*C*K came out while I was in college. I saw them on tour a couple of times during that era. It was the right music, at the right time for me. When I hear songs off of these albums, it takes me back to those halcyon days of youth. I love the albums from both Dave and Sammy with the band. I don't know why some "fans" have to hate either era. It's all awesome music.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Damn right! I came up in the same time, and similarly all of the songs from both eras bring back some great memories. But yes I am definitely seeing a lot of what you're seeing - people from either camp. It is definitely all awesome. Thanks for sharing your take!
@ugaais
@ugaais 6 ай бұрын
And everyone of this cant compare to the first 6 albums..born in 1970..liked Sammy solo and in Montrose
@kdm71291
@kdm71291 6 ай бұрын
Agreed...."apples and oranges"!
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
Balance was damn good also! Liked it more than Carnal Knowledge!
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
​@@ugaaisYour opinion.. First album was great...after that..eh
@drewgeraci8434
@drewgeraci8434 6 ай бұрын
Finish What You Started is my favorite Hagar-era song. A very fresh sound for Eddie.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Such a clean snappy almost telecaster tone on that one. I agree 100%
@glennabaker3922
@glennabaker3922 5 ай бұрын
Probably my most fav song, Finish What You Started
@allboutdatchase
@allboutdatchase 5 ай бұрын
That and poundcake man just awesome songs
@lambknot
@lambknot 6 ай бұрын
Don't tell me what love can do, and Not Enough have been on my playlist for a while now, great well written songs.
@mattmacarthur520
@mattmacarthur520 6 ай бұрын
You know you’re massively successful when your “worst”selling album still goes double platinum in the states alone lol
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Damn right!
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
Live album yup!
@ugaais
@ugaais 6 ай бұрын
Yet David Lee era outsold Sammy 57 million to 27 million and David Lee outsold Sammy solo..Sammy was good solo and in Montrose…Van Halen 1 and 1984 outsold everything Sammy has done …
@0U812FU
@0U812FU 3 ай бұрын
​​@@ugaaisIt's actually 57 million to almost 48 million.. Also if Sammy has anything over Dave, other than a better voice, the fact they had four number one albums with him as Lead singer and Roth didn't have any amazingly enough...
@ugaais
@ugaais 3 ай бұрын
@@0U812FU Thriller was #1 for like a year when 1984 was released and any album can be number 1 then fade quickly…and you read you stats wrong it’s 57 million to 27 million, they as an exercise took the average of the Sammy era sales of each album 6.75 million and multiplied it by 7 to get 48 million…two problems they didn’t make seven with Sammy and there’s no way to know if they did what they would sell(they made 4)…and even if you said the 7 would sell at the 6.75 clip it’s still millions short….Van Halen 1 17 million and 1984 17 million outsold all four of Sammy era combined…5150 sold 11 million Sammy’s best effort..
@theberrybest
@theberrybest 6 ай бұрын
I was there from the beginning in 1978 and followed every year and album release until Sammy was kicked out. I was Sammy fan long before a Van Halen fan. What turned me off was all the drama from the Van Halen brothers. Talk about ego. Hagar still continued to rock and party while Van Halen slowly became irrelevant. Losing Edward was a blow. I was heartbroken 💔, but I'll always keep cranking up the VH tunes along with the Hagar tunes. I'm just here for the music. Screw the drama.
@AbeStephan
@AbeStephan 4 ай бұрын
Captain Candyass wasn't kicked out . He quit . He said so himself . Even Mike said he quit .
@NelsonRiverosMusic
@NelsonRiverosMusic 6 ай бұрын
Why did they do that to Michael Anthony?? Eddie recording all the bass parts. They really treated him badly.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Michael really got bad treatment - in the next one I go into a bit more depth on that. Buy all accounts he is a great guy and definitely does not deserve that whatsoever
@VicRonson5150
@VicRonson5150 6 ай бұрын
Yes they did, more than once. VH wouldn't have sounded the way they did without MA, not because of his bass playing but his backing vocals
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
Yes and no . Sam put alotta spin on the way they treated Mike BUT in the Van Halen brothers defense , Mike never wrote a song . He was treated like a session player .
@ReneCastroDrum
@ReneCastroDrum 6 ай бұрын
You gotta ask was Mike even allowed to write a song ??? Looks like he was barely allowed to be the bass player !
@NelsonRiverosMusic
@NelsonRiverosMusic 6 ай бұрын
@@ReneCastroDrum you can barely hear him on first few records. I think it wasn’t until they change producers that they raise them him up on the levels.
@everydaystuffandthingsguy4554
@everydaystuffandthingsguy4554 2 ай бұрын
Saw VH with Sammy in 86 or 87 at Riverbend. 5150 was a banger! That album screamed summertime! There was not one bad song on the entire album and I wore it out! At the same time Dave’s solo stuff was fantastic and a continuation of VH from Dave’s point of view and what VH would have been if Eddie didn’t have a say and just did what Dave wanted. VH with Sammy was perfect and I love that era!
@Makai77
@Makai77 4 ай бұрын
As an old dude who's seen VH 3 times with DLR and 4 times with Sammy, I honestly love it all! From their debut, self-titled album through Balance, I was all in. Going to see the Sammy tribute tour next week, can't wait!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
That is awesome - I'm sure it's going to be an amazing performance! We always catch the atomic punks when they get around this area. Always a fun blast of old VH
@mikerichardson8983
@mikerichardson8983 5 ай бұрын
I hate when they say Van Halen changed their sound! Van Halen adjusted to the time! Anybody with any kind of brains can see that in 84, Eddie and Roth had already started to write more of pop rock instead of hard rock songs! Everybody always says that the music changed when Sammy joined the band, but the music had already change with the 84 album. Hell most of the 5150 music was already done before Sammy joined the band! People say that their were two Van Halens, no Eddie just saw the writing on the wall, and knew that he had to changed to stay relavate. Sammy was the perfect frontman for the time! He could write killer lyrics and knew how to get the best out of Eddie. Everybody can say what they want about Sammy but without Sammy, Van Halen would have been done. We all saw what happen with Gary, that was a shit show! In my opinion, we were lucky to get Van Halen as long as we did, it sucks that we have to get old. We lost Eddie way to early, but his music will live forever. Long live THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN! RIP EDDIE.
@Craig-hk5wp
@Craig-hk5wp 2 ай бұрын
Ppl forget their sound started to shift on 1984 when Dave was in the band. But Sammy get what some would call blame for the shift
@shawnlewis1918
@shawnlewis1918 6 ай бұрын
I loved BOTH versions of Van Halen but I can also say that everyone involved in that band at any given point were aholes with the exception of Sammy and Michael Anthony....those 2 guys are gold on the inside!
@ciadella1971
@ciadella1971 6 ай бұрын
Noel Monk deserves major credit for coming up with a strategy that got them out of their shit contract.
@jonesy2111
@jonesy2111 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! He did so much for the band and seldom gets the recognition for it. I had a conversation with him after I sent a message about his book which is one of the best and most honest rock memoirs and he said it would make a great movie 👍
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
It was an absolutely brilliant move
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
I agree . From what I've read (besides whatever Noel revealed ) the band never really made any money . Warner Brothers really ripped them off . Roth , and the Van Halen brothers talked about some of the 🐂💩 they put up with in a 2part ADKOT promo video on KZbin .
@johng618
@johng618 6 ай бұрын
Noel was the man! Rest in Peace 🌟
@mrufino1
@mrufino1 6 ай бұрын
Noel’s book was a great read. I didn’t realize he had passed away.
@byronconsbass
@byronconsbass 6 ай бұрын
This band really rocks the world. Thank you for tje beautiful sharing about Van Halen.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Byron 🤘😎🤘
@ericdegroot828
@ericdegroot828 6 ай бұрын
They did Michael Anthony dirty. Idc what they say. He was loyal from day 1. Always there until he wasn't...
@TomGrubbe
@TomGrubbe 6 ай бұрын
I didn't know that back story about the change in managers. That says a lot about Sammy's judge of character. He's such a positive guy.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you - it's pretty wild what happened, things must have been always in some kind of upheaval in the VH camp during the late '80s to early 2000s.
@kdm71291
@kdm71291 6 ай бұрын
A lot of this I knew, a lot I didn't....interesting stuff! Balance is probably the hardest, most rocking of those from the Sammy era. My first concert was in the 1982 on the Diver Down tour.......and then I saw them on the first tour with Sammy in 1986 for 5150....both at The Forum in LA......and I was there for Monsters Of Rock when it came to The Coliseum in LA.....each of those shows were great, with a special nod to MOR for being a 9+ hour epic rock orgy with a bunch of great bands!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That is freaking awesome! To see them at those different periods must have been pretty cool. Thank you kindly - I am glad you enjoyed it 🤘🤘
@goanddo2371
@goanddo2371 6 ай бұрын
I'm grateful for the Sammy era. VH became more musical, diverse, and interesting. Pre-Sammy had some good songs, but my personal taste has Van Hagar out of sight beyond anything else. Glad other people's opinions don't affect my enjoyment of it =)
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
It's very interesting - because they're really too totally different bands with the same name. It's also interesting how they had evolved to the point at 1984 where there sound was kind of getting to what we would hear with the Sammy era. They were already going in that direction. And as they started with Sammy you could already hear that flip in the sound but yet it was still slightly reminiscent of 1984 and then they just evolved continually through each album from there on out. The first era was pure fun rock and roll Van Halen and the second was sophisticated Van Halen. I'm seeing a pretty good divergence across both the Roth era and Sammy era videos. Thanks for sharing your take!
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing Ed wanted to do more pop at times after 1984 . The closest love song in the Roth era is "In A Simple Rhyme " . And Roth said in his interview from Joe Rogan he pointed that out kinda .
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
​@guitarmeetsscience First half of Sam era...People always forget the better half..Carnal Knowledge and Balance!!
@mattlucas4046
@mattlucas4046 24 күн бұрын
Van Halen TO ME is this lineup: Eddie Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony & Alex Van Halen. Black & Blue, Mine All Mine, Cabo Wabo, When It's Love, Love Walks In, Summer Nights, Good Enough, Dreams, 5150, Why Can't This Be Love, Best Of Both Worlds, Judgement Day, Poundcake, Right Now, Top Of the World, The Dream Is Over, Run Around. My childhood.🤘🤘🤘🤘
@bobbymauro3721
@bobbymauro3721 4 ай бұрын
Awesome job on this dude! Spot on with the historical accuracy!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much man - I appreciate your kind words bro!! 🙏
@rebelrocker7494
@rebelrocker7494 3 ай бұрын
Enjoyed This,Gotta Laugh at Roth,No One Loves him more then Himself, He was a Great Frontman According to My Friends Love Eddie Though, Wolf Is a Great Guy,Although People Would beg To Differ,Im a Fan Of Eddie I Should Say,You Rock Another, Awesome Video, Hope Alls Well, Gotta Catch Up,All Great Stories, Keep Rockin 🎸🎸🎸
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 3 ай бұрын
Thanks rebel!!! DLR was definitely one of a kind. A friend of mine actually met him. They had gone to his house to do some kind of contract work, they knocked on the door - needless to say David Lee Roth peeks out the door saying who's going to give me a ..... You know..... And when there were all shocked he just went "nobody is going to give me a....." F you guys then, and he walked back into his house but left the door open. So they didn't quite know what to do but they finally just walked in he was nowhere to be found so they did the contract work and split. Lmao typical David Lee Roth. Great to hear from you rebel keep on rocking!! 🤘😎🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
@rebelrocker7494
@rebelrocker7494 3 ай бұрын
You know I've Listened to All These but I Listen Twice Because The Phone Rings Etc.And Then I Start All Over(I'm a Dork)😂This is Like a Great Book You Cant Put Down,You Rock 🤘👍
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 3 ай бұрын
You rock REBEL!!!! 😎🤘🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
@Crank-n-Craig
@Crank-n-Craig 5 ай бұрын
I always thought they named the album "OU812" in response to Daves "Eat em and Smile?". In retrospect Van Halen was great with Dave and Sam. Legends. Enjoyed your video! Thanks
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't doubt that they didn't at least see it as a bonus in response to Edom and smile. That feud went on for quite a long time! Thank you for the kind words Craig!! 🙏
@SuperDrJeckyl
@SuperDrJeckyl 5 ай бұрын
I always liked Sammy as singer much better than Roth. It was more about music. But Roth should get a ton of the credit for making Van Halen famous as he got them the attention to get them started.
@damonstewart70
@damonstewart70 6 ай бұрын
You always deliver da goods
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Damon I appreciate that bud!!!
@jimallen6197
@jimallen6197 5 ай бұрын
We got to listen to Eddie Van Halen for 42 years. Ain’t a damn thing wrong with that!!!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
Not a damn thing!! 🤘🤘
@stiffrichard2816
@stiffrichard2816 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Dave's ego was the problem, Eddie's ego was even bigger. It was just creative differences. Eddie always belly aching and talking sh** about people.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
The room wasn't big enough for both of them half the time
@rockingsteady4019
@rockingsteady4019 5 ай бұрын
Sam &Dave have both added beautiful things to the VH band: no doubts about that.Ed Leffler was a close friend, almost family to the brothers.He kept the band together until his passing. After Leffler died Ray Danniels took over the management of VH and everything collapsed because Ray has anticipated friction and distance between the members of the band.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
@@rockingsteady4019 yep exactly!! Sammy called him out.... He was the most perceptive about Ray.
@morganneher8643
@morganneher8643 3 ай бұрын
That live take of Dreams spur of the moment in the studio made me a Sammy fan, he’s powerful
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 3 ай бұрын
@@morganneher8643 they played together so well by that time!
@Fast2Whls
@Fast2Whls 6 ай бұрын
I love that you actually narrate your own vids, hiccups and all. I cant watch a vid with a robot voice, ever. You state what happened; no hype, no opintonated BS, just "here's what happened". you just earned a subscriber.. VH forever; whichever version.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That totally makes my day - thank you a million!!! 🙏
@peter-0200
@peter-0200 6 ай бұрын
Lots of info I haven’t heard before. Excellent job.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! 🙏
@user-pc5jp7ld6j
@user-pc5jp7ld6j 6 ай бұрын
It was never Dave who wanted Van Halen to go in a pop direction, it was Eddie.
@HazeOfWhearyWater
@HazeOfWhearyWater 6 ай бұрын
Sammy wanted them to go Disco. I read his book.
@scottnorris8071
@scottnorris8071 6 ай бұрын
Actually it was Roth who was the disco queen
@Pepsolman
@Pepsolman 6 ай бұрын
Dave wanted show tunes and burlesque music to swing his tassels to.
@jamesball5743
@jamesball5743 6 ай бұрын
Dave wanted guitars and screams, Eddie wanted sap and synthesizers.
@michaeltammaro482
@michaeltammaro482 6 ай бұрын
STOP.
@marklivingston1479
@marklivingston1479 5 ай бұрын
1st cassette I bought was 5150. I still have it. 🤘
@alphalifestyleacademy
@alphalifestyleacademy 5 ай бұрын
22:03 My first concert was with this tour in I think around March 1992.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
They sounded great from the footage of that show. Must have been awesome to see live!
@dankippert2677
@dankippert2677 5 ай бұрын
DREAMS AND BLUE ANGELS BEST PAIRING OF SONG AND TRIBUTE SONG EVER...M
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
Definitely a great pairing!!!
@Pepsolman
@Pepsolman 6 ай бұрын
Awesome vid! Look forward to the next!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! The final installment is going up Sunday night. I really appreciate your kind words!! 🙏
@Madame702
@Madame702 6 ай бұрын
What people don't understand is that Sammy Hagger and Eddie Van Halen had 5 number one albums and sold 42 million records.
@danmeek928
@danmeek928 5 ай бұрын
I saw Van Halen in both era. With David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar. I’d like the band better with the red rocker.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
That is cool that you got to see them in both major eras!
@AgentPepsi1
@AgentPepsi1 6 ай бұрын
As much as I loved 1984, I cannot stand "Jump", and Sammy Hagar 100% right. I understand they did play my favorite song of that work: "I'll Wait". All in all, I love the Hagar years. I met Sammy Hagar once, and he was a very kind gentleman. 😊
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - I'll wait is a great song! That is very cool that you got to meet Sammy!!!
@AgentPepsi1
@AgentPepsi1 6 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience 😊😊😊
@Benji8461
@Benji8461 6 ай бұрын
These are great videos. You've done an awesome job. Keep up the great work.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you a million!!!!
@tellofiriometto5810
@tellofiriometto5810 6 ай бұрын
VH had the best guitar player , the best drummer at the time, but DLR was such a clown , when Hagar came along , I knew the band was complete .
@duncanwalwyn8241
@duncanwalwyn8241 5 ай бұрын
OU812 was a retort to Dave Lee Roth's "Eat em and Smile" albm as far as I know
@thecrazycatdude8066
@thecrazycatdude8066 6 ай бұрын
Awesome documentary my friend. Great channel. Van Halen forever
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much my friend!!!
@xdude2x
@xdude2x 5 ай бұрын
I like both eras, no need to pick a side for me
@paulgrimm6317
@paulgrimm6317 5 ай бұрын
The bass player was played sadly! As a former bass player that sucks he was with them from day 1 & DESERVED equal credit. Very sad Also to learn Eddie Passed in 2020 , RIP EDDIE YOU MADE ROCK HISTORY & forever made guitarist look up to you. I was forever grateful to be in a tribute band called FAIR WARNING in Toronto back in the early 90’s…..Thanks for all the memories!❤
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
🤘🤘
@GggA.T.-music
@GggA.T.-music 6 ай бұрын
Balance is the best Van Hagar album!
@elstifo
@elstifo 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@Hoosinner
@Hoosinner 6 ай бұрын
Do you think you could cover Jeff Healy? I think he was a very not known musician. He was blind that also played with SRV! And I think it would be cool for a video dedicated to him! Since his background isn’t really well known or talked about !
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! He is on my bucket list as well as Prince which we had discussed before. I didn't realize Eddie's story would stretch out as much as it did, turns out he had a pretty big history so I ended up doing four parts. Jeff Healey was a monster - it's amazing how he was able to have his hand over the fretboard and do all those bends and vibrato just as soulful as any of them great players. Such a shame we lost him at such a young age. Keep those ideas coming - You are definitely into some great players!!!
@richardhilborn1459
@richardhilborn1459 6 ай бұрын
Great band unmatched guitar player all great singers end of story
@TheCD5150
@TheCD5150 4 ай бұрын
Eddie was NOT SOBER during the making of Balance. Eddie had major problems with his health with his hips, and the fact he had problems with alcohol and cocaine at this time. Sammy nearly left in protest over that.
@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp
@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp 6 ай бұрын
Supposedly Ed had hundreds of riffs, ideas and songs on tape but their albums were short with not many songs on them.
@Plisken65
@Plisken65 6 ай бұрын
Riffs and ideas aren't full songs. Sadly, Ed lied. Alot.
@candycane1921
@candycane1921 6 ай бұрын
The standard at the time was full albums (not demos) containing banger after banger. How did they come up with so many good songs in a row? Each track being an introduction to the next 😢 music fans don't get that anymore
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right - they weren't just albums They were entire experiences. Nowadays everything is in bite size pieces and it is a darn shame.
@DarrinR.-pq8md
@DarrinR.-pq8md Ай бұрын
At the end of the Panama video, Edward hangs by his leg. Is that the same leg he replaced a hip on..?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience Ай бұрын
That's a good question - I never really thought about that! Who knows, could have been some wear and tear - but then again he did so much jumping around on stage so who knows
@rozzie101
@rozzie101 6 ай бұрын
I didn't really get into VH, until Sammy joined the band...
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
Same here! Once I heard Best of Both Worlds I was hooked!
@wshrig
@wshrig 5 ай бұрын
My All Time Favorite Bands is the Van Halen Sammy era 1985-1996.. It was such a huge mistake for the Van Halen brothers to move on from Sammy.. Gary Cherone was god awful and DLR couldn't since anymore..
@jimmybiter2936
@jimmybiter2936 6 ай бұрын
Great doc Jimmy🤘🤘
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Jimmy! Great to see you bro 🤘🤘
@Taxationisstealing
@Taxationisstealing 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think Ed was that sober during balance
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
It didn't last long
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
​​@@guitarmeetsscienceYeah . Hagar's diva attitude gave Ed an excuse to fall off the wagon . Contrary to Hagar's 🐂💩 he started getting to act like the leader of the band . There's a VH compilation ( I think by Howard Stern ) on KZbin that shows Hagar say on video " This is MY band . " . And in the next clip he says " Lead singer of the band , leader of the band , what's the difference ? " .
@feiticeirafatale561
@feiticeirafatale561 6 ай бұрын
@@BruceStephan He says that in his book as well. But he also claims that before him it was DLR who was leader of the band, that it was never VH brothers. It seems possible since it was DLR who named the band 'Van Halen'.
@MarioPepe
@MarioPepe 6 ай бұрын
Excelente work!! 👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Mario 🤘😎🤘🙏
@damageincorporated8558
@damageincorporated8558 6 ай бұрын
Eddie Van Halen just strikes me as a pretty humble crazy waster, he did it his way at his own pace and it is what it is, a legendary guitarist playing with really good Musicians
@CorinDmfechne
@CorinDmfechne 5 ай бұрын
The content is very good
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly! 🙏🙏
@mr.timebombman2230
@mr.timebombman2230 6 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, Ted Templeman, who was their producer and worked for Warners, had suggested Sammy from the beginning when they got signed. Luckily they didn't heed that advice or we wouldn't have all that classic stuff. As much as Roth was a difficult personality to work with, I really think they wouldn't have been that successful early on. For all Dave's inadequacies he helped make them as influential as they became.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Their music back then probably would have been pretty rocking. Considering the work that Montrose has done - I'm envisioning stuff that sounds a bit more like the verse part of 5150, summer nights and drop dead legs kind of vibe
@goshgolly8305
@goshgolly8305 6 ай бұрын
Great channel
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much that really makes my day 🙏
@pacsun-guitar
@pacsun-guitar 6 ай бұрын
So good video!👍👍👍
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🤗
@drewgeraci8434
@drewgeraci8434 6 ай бұрын
i prefer the Roth songs but he did kinda screw himself. All the cover tracks and other stuff to pad some of the albums was frustrating to me. Sammy's version is not for me but I respect the quantum leap they made to redefine themselves to bigger success. One thing that bugs me is how Michael Anthony got short-changed. Aside from killer bass, his harmonies contributed greatly!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100% - why they did Michael like that I'll never know, because by all accounts Anthony was really cool and very easy to get along with
@ugaais
@ugaais 6 ай бұрын
They were bigger under Roth..David Lee era outsold Sammy 57 million to 27 million and David Lee outsold Sammy solo..Sammy was good solo and in Montrose…Van Halen 1 and 1984 outsold everything Sammy has done …
@drewgeraci8434
@drewgeraci8434 6 ай бұрын
@@ugaais Never knew that. I just assumed when Hagar wrote those wussy ballads for Van Halen, they became the biggest hits.
@ugaais
@ugaais 6 ай бұрын
@@drewgeraci8434 an album can go to number 1 but fade quickly the only reason 1984 didn’t go number 1 was Michael Jackson’s Thriller was out.
@bassangler73
@bassangler73 6 ай бұрын
Nice job!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@tomlewis5542
@tomlewis5542 6 ай бұрын
Pro work Hoss!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much man!!! 🤘😎🤘
@JohnnyBeane
@JohnnyBeane 6 ай бұрын
My 1st =VH= album was 5150.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Very cool - see you got into them post Roth initially... I didn't know that. First one I got was diver down and it was a noisy cassette copy that a friend made for me. Then 1984 came out and so I signed up for Columbia House (the 20 tapes for a penny) and got all of their albums. Parents were pissed lmao
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy 6 ай бұрын
It never ends...
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Sadly no.... One more to go 🤘😆🤘
@aus80srockradio94
@aus80srockradio94 5 ай бұрын
Sammy was the best thing that happened to VH. 5150 is pure proof.
@dinoc734
@dinoc734 2 ай бұрын
I’m not saying DLR is a better singer than SH, but the personality with theVan Roth songs are hard to duplicate with any other singer. If you told me in 1986 VH wouldn’t be any Van Roth songs even though it was a new singer, I probably would’ve passed.
@aaronwood8012
@aaronwood8012 4 ай бұрын
The demos for women and children first have amazing bass lines - much better than the final album
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Good to know I will definitely have to check some of those out
@AndrewLemmings1998
@AndrewLemmings1998 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think they fired Dave. Dave quit, he wanted to be a movie star and was in talk with a bunch of Hollywood types about a movie he would star in, and he had a new band he was working with on the side as well and was showing up late to rehearsals only to start fights and walk out. David was jealous since he wanted to be the center of attention, yet Eddie was getting more and more attention due to how amazing he was on guitar.
@Larrys-rc1ch
@Larrys-rc1ch 6 ай бұрын
Dave's high school lyrics wha? Please.
@ltjjenkins
@ltjjenkins 6 ай бұрын
100%. Hard music to write lyrics for in the early days.
@cdraper7277
@cdraper7277 6 ай бұрын
According to Sammy's book, Eddie wasn't sober during Balance.
@travelinben1966
@travelinben1966 6 ай бұрын
Roth=better front man Hagar= better singer
@damonstewart70
@damonstewart70 6 ай бұрын
Hey next please do how dave hooked up with steve vai!!!
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy 6 ай бұрын
I Adore him. Good choice. ❤❤❤
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That is a good one! Steve Vai is in the cards for sure 🤘🤘
@gslide06
@gslide06 4 ай бұрын
Good video. Those Van Hagar albums are good to excellent. But zero interest in seeing the current Best of Both Worlds though. It's not. The Dave era is minimized thanks to Sam's ego and refusing to comprehend the depth of Van Halen fans who love both eras but demand more depth from the Dave years besides "Ain't talking about Love" and "Panama". Lame effort Sam.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 6 ай бұрын
Finish What Ya’ Started…Eddie played that tune on a stock 1964 Stratocaster.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
He got a great snappy sound on that one
@SonicGrace
@SonicGrace 6 ай бұрын
Cool !!!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
🤘😎🤘 Thanks brother
@andrebriscoe2272
@andrebriscoe2272 4 ай бұрын
Bertinelli🥰😍
@richevans609
@richevans609 6 ай бұрын
After all the years of finger pointing.... Blame Chart as goes : Eddie = 33.3% Sam = 33.3% Dave = 33.3%
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
Songs Mike wrote = 0% .
@richevans609
@richevans609 6 ай бұрын
Those numbers just take the edge off of the ridiculousness!
@VicRonson5150
@VicRonson5150 6 ай бұрын
No brown MnM's, brown is only allowed in your sound. News flash, the only one that thought Dave was the main attraction was Dave
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
Yet Dave sold more albums with the band , NOT Captain Candyass .
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
@user-rt9zq8rs9k ROTFLMAO 😆😆😆😆
@LaloBerumen
@LaloBerumen 5 ай бұрын
DLR yell is part of VH just like Eddie's tap on he guitar and unique sound is what made VH sound not the cheese voice of Hagar they went from rockers to wimps They sucked with Hagar but Hagar had his own sound before VH
@grubbetuchus
@grubbetuchus 6 ай бұрын
Eddie Van Halen was a fan and a friend of guitar great Frank Zappa. Sammy Hagar is an incredibly good guitar player, melodic, and technically talented. His guitar skills are grossly underrated by too many people.
@rmarty550
@rmarty550 6 ай бұрын
No doubt Dave was a great front man, but without Eddie he flopped. Eddie’s guitar will live on, Dave’s singing, not so much.
@michaeloneill1360
@michaeloneill1360 6 ай бұрын
F U C K is my #1 Van Halen Album!! Just wishing I could find & buy either a DVD or Blu Ray video of 'Right here Right Now'.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure it's out there somewhere - might be expensive though if they're not in production.
@jonesy2111
@jonesy2111 6 ай бұрын
I completely lost interest in the band when Dave left… I remember hearing the new stuff with Hagar and it sounded like the band Foreigner with a good guitarist (a line I’ve been quoted on by fellow musicians) - AOR radio rock and it just sounded so cheesy to me. After watching this I have more understanding of why it didn’t resonate with me. And yes I tried to like this version of the band and Balance was definitely the best album of that incarnation.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
They were definitely onto something when they hit the balance era, but sadly the tensions just got too high. It's weird because it was so cyclical - just like when 1984 was coming together, they were really heading in a new direction when everything fell apart. It would have been interesting to see what they would have come up with after balance had that lineup stayed together
@phildodson6141
@phildodson6141 6 ай бұрын
Balance was the worst during hagar era! Too 90s grungy sound...not upbeat fun party music. I'm a fan of both eras.....5150 or fuck were the best sammy albums.
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
​@@phildodson6141That's funny . I agree . VH3 is better to me than Balance . To me , the best on the album is the 2part instrumental .
@Zoo1424-w7o
@Zoo1424-w7o 6 ай бұрын
I didn't lose interest but I remember being so excited when I heard Sammy joined the band. Hager! Van Halen! This is going to blow the roof off! And instead it was like a version of Journey at first. Man I was disappointed and enjoyed DLRs first two solo records. But years later, songs like "Summer Nights" take me right back to those days...and I haven't listened to a DLR song since I don't know when.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
@fredmcgill848 Summer nights was a real standout on that album. I always put that in a category along with drop dead legs and mean street as some move the most deep grooving stuff of theirs
@WestCoastRoller
@WestCoastRoller 6 ай бұрын
Source of infection!! 🎸🎸🎸🎸
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
🤘🤘
@JokersWild70
@JokersWild70 6 ай бұрын
Time and record sales did show that Roth was NOT bigger than Van Halen as an entity.
@dcbdiscerns7617
@dcbdiscerns7617 5 ай бұрын
Time has told that Roth's ego was bigger than his 'talent' bless him 😅
@goldboxguitars6871
@goldboxguitars6871 5 ай бұрын
Paul Gilbert used the drill way before Eddie did. Go watch Paul’s Intense Rock #1 instructional video and you will see at about the 36 minute mark Paul uses the drill. That was 1988, Eddie did it in 1991.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
Yep he did. Also got it stuck in his hair during one of the shows in 89 I believe
@indydude3367
@indydude3367 5 ай бұрын
Eddie called their original record contract a "Motown Deal".
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
I could totally see that!
@stevenculver6416
@stevenculver6416 6 ай бұрын
There were only 4 guys that could have ever made van halen happen the way it did. Hagar is very talented but in many die hard van halen afficionados minds hagar era wasn't even close to what we all heard with the original 4 members. I believe eddie and alex simply got tired of dave, they got tired of sammy and became annoyed with everything in their lives pertaining to music and business. Dave thought van halen was his band and sammy tried the same thing.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
You're exactly right - both of those incidents got under Eddie and Alex's skin quite a bit. Many bands have had to deal with front men like that, and Van Halen was no different In that regard.
@thirdofnever
@thirdofnever 6 ай бұрын
Hagar was in no way the irritant Roth was.
@bb-gc2tx
@bb-gc2tx 6 ай бұрын
2:36 daves hair starting its farewell tour 🤣
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
😆😆😆😆
@ronstewart6362
@ronstewart6362 6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the Sam years but Dave made VH the Mighty Van Halen. Look at Montrose. Great band with great musicians and good songs. That's what VH was with Sam. And had they had Sam at the beginning I don't think we'd be talking about them. Maybe Ed but Not VH. Dave Made them Mega Stars with great songs and pushed Ed to be his Best. When Ed was his best, He was The Best! Worked perfectly. Long live the Mighty VH!!
@raffyvalky4527
@raffyvalky4527 6 ай бұрын
I see these comments and see the same stuff regarding VH being pop after dave left... i hate that! 2 things: VH always had soft pop songs! AND the only real pop rock album was 5150 which unfortunately (in this case) is the most popular. Ou812 has some heavy shit on there, and the next two albums had straight up metal songs... the dave era never had true metal songs.
@rebeccamizell1071
@rebeccamizell1071 5 ай бұрын
Sammy Hagar beat out dlr by long shot great band
@bookofthedamned
@bookofthedamned 6 ай бұрын
I saw VH live with Hagar. But what a bunch of assholes the bros VH were, businesswise.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
They definitely had their moments for sure!
@hubriswonk
@hubriswonk 6 ай бұрын
The fact that Sammy and Mike are touring and loving life and Alex is selling his gear with no to jam with and Wolf touring as a cover band.......I would say Sammy and Mike WON!!!!!! hahahahaha! I've never been a VH fan and always thought they were bubble gum no matter what version or lineup, but it is great rock history.
@feiticeirafatale561
@feiticeirafatale561 6 ай бұрын
Well, it wasnt them who lost a brother and father like Al and Wolf
@gtdrummer6429
@gtdrummer6429 6 ай бұрын
Not sure how you think Wolf is touring as a cover band when he’s playing his own original music, not Van Halen music.
@tomb8430
@tomb8430 6 ай бұрын
Don't know if it's just me, but I can't even name more than a handful of songs from the Hagar era. Edit: And hearing the narrator talk about the goofy and schmaltz lyrics, I think this is the biggest problem of the Hagar era. Just my taste on the subject.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
They definitely had their moments, and things got really whacked out when Gary joined. I'm glad they went out with a bang though with a different kind of truth.
@donnswaby369
@donnswaby369 6 ай бұрын
No it's not just you, but as the same time, yeah, it's just you; I was 13 in 1986 when I bought my very first cassette of 5150. Eddie influenced me to start playing guitar. I listened to ALL Van Halen going all the way to the 1st album. My first Van Halen concert was the For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge tour and it was one of the best nights of my life,. Me and hundreds of millions of fans around the world had a fucking blast rocking out to Van Halen in this most phenomenal era. Lot of fun, lot of love, lot of great fucking songs! I've seen VH eight times, with all three singers, all members. And every time, I saw VAN HALEN. What? You think Eddie and Alex are not going to rock hard like they 've always done, no matter who's singing? I am a Van Halen fan. Eddie is and always will be my all time favorite musician.
@tomb8430
@tomb8430 6 ай бұрын
@@donnswaby369 EVH used to be my favourite guitarist too. Chased his tone for years, and got pretty close with my Plexi-50 and a variac. As I got older though, I realised there are many great musicians, and I don't think anyone is actually "best". They are all different.
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 6 ай бұрын
Hagar himself recently bragged about not even trying to write lyrics decently when he started .
@tomb8430
@tomb8430 6 ай бұрын
@@BruceStephan Yeah and it shows. I found all of Hagar's lyrics cheesy, lovey-dovey shite. That's just my view. I know others will disagree.
@sherischeerhorn185
@sherischeerhorn185 5 ай бұрын
Van Hagar the best. Sorry Dave
@diamondd2778
@diamondd2778 4 ай бұрын
Not when it came to sales......
@johncole015
@johncole015 6 ай бұрын
DLR was no mastermind of anything his solo career was over back in 1991.
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
He's been a has been since the 80s!
@ugaais
@ugaais 6 ай бұрын
Yet David Lee era outsold Sammy 57 million to 27 million and David Lee outsold Sammy solo..Sammy was good solo and in Montrose…Van Halen 1 and 1984 outsold everything Sammy has done …
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
@@ugaais Different times..6 albums to 4
@charleskandrut7022
@charleskandrut7022 6 ай бұрын
@@ugaais Didn't outsell Sam solo..not even close.
@ugaais
@ugaais 6 ай бұрын
@@charleskandrut7022 Solo totals for both…..SAMMY HAGAR sold over 3,500,000 albums, including 3,500,000 in the United States. The best-selling album by SAMMY HAGAR is VOA, which sold over 1,000,000 copies . DAVID LEE ROTH sold over 3,987,270 albums, including 3,500,000 in the United States and 220,000 in the United Kingdom. The best-selling album by DAVID LEE ROTH is EAT 'EM AND SMILE, which sold over 1,156,680 copies .
@jacestephenweatherall1732
@jacestephenweatherall1732 3 ай бұрын
Imagine Jimmy Barnes in Van Halen?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha that would be interesting
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