Eddie Van Halen: The Hagar Years

Eddie Van Halen: The Hagar Years
The Eddie Van Halen Story (The Hagar Years - Part 3). This week, we're continuing a deep dive into the life and career of Eddie Van Halen. The Sammy Hagar years showed the band taking a huge chance on a completely new sound. Van Halen fans became deeply divided between Roth fans and new VH fans. This period was definitely not without it's drama - but Van Halen found a new audience as a result of many popular hits.
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[@guitarmeetsscience]

Please, kindly smack those 'like' and 'subscribe' buttons....my Shih Tzu greatly appreciates it!

[@AutismRocksOfficial]

Just saw the Sammy Hagar Best of All Worlds tour this past week where he sang mostly Van Halen songs. It was AMAZING. Man is 76 years old and still rocking 🔥🤘.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Jazz hands!!!! 👋👋 That is very cool that you got to see him. Absolutely right - Sammy keeps rocking. Must have been a great show. Thanks for sharing that, cheers Danny & Micah!

[@nolarobert]

5150, OU812, and F*U*C*K came out while I was in college. I saw them on tour a couple of times during that era. It was the right music, at the right time for me. When I hear songs off of these albums, it takes me back to those halcyon days of youth. I love the albums from both Dave and Sammy with the band. I don't know why some "fans" have to hate either era. It's all awesome music.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Damn right! I came up in the same time, and similarly all of the songs from both eras bring back some great memories. But yes I am definitely seeing a lot of what you're seeing - people from either camp. It is definitely all awesome. Thanks for sharing your take!

[@ugaais]

And everyone of this cant compare to the first 6 albums..born in 1970..liked Sammy solo and in Montrose

[@kdm71291]

Agreed...."apples and oranges"!

[@charleskandrut7022]

Balance was damn good also! Liked it more than Carnal Knowledge!

[@charleskandrut7022]

​@@ugaaisYour opinion.. First album was great...after that..eh

[@Makai77]

As an old dude who's seen VH 3 times with DLR and 4 times with Sammy, I honestly love it all! From their debut, self-titled album through Balance, I was all in. Going to see the Sammy tribute tour next week, can't wait!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That is awesome - I'm sure it's going to be an amazing performance! We always catch the atomic punks when they get around this area. Always a fun blast of old VH

[@lambknot]

Don't tell me what love can do, and Not Enough have been on my playlist for a while now, great well written songs.

[@drewgeraci8434]

Finish What You Started is my favorite Hagar-era song. A very fresh sound for Eddie.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Such a clean snappy almost telecaster tone on that one. I agree 100%

[@glennabaker3922]

Probably my most fav song, Finish What You Started

[@allboutdatchase]

That and poundcake man just awesome songs

[@BlackCharger-xd4zx]

Finish what ya started was the only track that Sammy played all the guitar parts.

[@drewgeraci8434]

@@BlackCharger-xd4zx even Eddie's?

[@everydaystuffandthingsguy4554]

Saw VH with Sammy in 86 or 87 at Riverbend. 5150 was a banger! That album screamed summertime! There was not one bad song on the entire album and I wore it out! At the same time Dave’s solo stuff was fantastic and a continuation of VH from Dave’s point of view and what VH would have been if Eddie didn’t have a say and just did what Dave wanted. VH with Sammy was perfect and I love that era!

[@byronconsbass]

This band really rocks the world. Thank you for tje beautiful sharing about Van Halen.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks Byron 🤘😎🤘

[@theberrybest]

I was there from the beginning in 1978 and followed every year and album release until Sammy was kicked out. I was Sammy fan long before a Van Halen fan. What turned me off was all the drama from the Van Halen brothers. Talk about ego. Hagar still continued to rock and party while Van Halen slowly became irrelevant. Losing Edward was a blow. I was heartbroken 💔, but I'll always keep cranking up the VH tunes along with the Hagar tunes. I'm just here for the music. Screw the drama.

[@AbeStephan]

Captain Candyass wasn't kicked out . He quit . He said so himself . Even Mike said he quit .

[@asnark7115]

ADKoT was one of the band's best albums of any era, so I don't think you can call them "irrelevant"; especially give Eddie's massive impact on the guitar gear world and KZbin "music dives". Sammy continued to be Sammy, so let's give him credit for that, at least!

[@MDM0915]

I saw the original lineup in the old Houston Music Hall after the first album. I also was there for the first full Hagar concert in my hometown Shreveport LA Hirsch Memorial Coliseum in 1986. Both shows great for different reasons and about seven years apart.

[@asnark7115]

I was there at Hirsch that night with my younger brother. We lived down the street from the Bertanellis'. St. Mark's Day school, Captain Shreve and Caddo Magnet, REPRESENT!

[@goanddo2371]

I'm grateful for the Sammy era. VH became more musical, diverse, and interesting. Pre-Sammy had some good songs, but my personal taste has Van Hagar out of sight beyond anything else. Glad other people's opinions don't affect my enjoyment of it =)

[@guitarmeetsscience]

It's very interesting - because they're really too totally different bands with the same name. It's also interesting how they had evolved to the point at 1984 where there sound was kind of getting to what we would hear with the Sammy era. They were already going in that direction. And as they started with Sammy you could already hear that flip in the sound but yet it was still slightly reminiscent of 1984 and then they just evolved continually through each album from there on out. The first era was pure fun rock and roll Van Halen and the second was sophisticated Van Halen. I'm seeing a pretty good divergence across both the Roth era and Sammy era videos. Thanks for sharing your take!

[@BruceStephan]

I'm guessing Ed wanted to do more pop at times after 1984 . The closest love song in the Roth era is "In A Simple Rhyme " . And Roth said in his interview from Joe Rogan he pointed that out kinda .

[@charleskandrut7022]

​@guitarmeetsscience First half of Sam era...People always forget the better half..Carnal Knowledge and Balance!!

[@rebelrocker7494]

Enjoyed This,Gotta Laugh at Roth,No One Loves him more then Himself, He was a Great Frontman According to My Friends Love Eddie Though, Wolf Is a Great Guy,Although People Would beg To Differ,Im a Fan Of Eddie I Should Say,You Rock Another, Awesome Video, Hope Alls Well, Gotta Catch Up,All Great Stories, Keep Rockin 🎸🎸🎸

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks rebel!!! DLR was definitely one of a kind. A friend of mine actually met him. They had gone to his house to do some kind of contract work, they knocked on the door - needless to say David Lee Roth peeks out the door saying who's going to give me a ..... You know..... And when there were all shocked he just went "nobody is going to give me a....." F you guys then, and he walked back into his house but left the door open. So they didn't quite know what to do but they finally just walked in he was nowhere to be found so they did the contract work and split. Lmao typical David Lee Roth. Great to hear from you rebel keep on rocking!! 🤘😎🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

[@rebelrocker7494]

You know I've Listened to All These but I Listen Twice Because The Phone Rings Etc.And Then I Start All Over(I'm a Dork)😂This is Like a Great Book You Cant Put Down,You Rock 🤘👍

[@guitarmeetsscience]

You rock REBEL!!!! 😎🤘🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

[@ciadella1971]

Noel Monk deserves major credit for coming up with a strategy that got them out of their shit contract.

[@jonesy2111]

Absolutely! He did so much for the band and seldom gets the recognition for it. I had a conversation with him after I sent a message about his book which is one of the best and most honest rock memoirs and he said it would make a great movie 👍

[@guitarmeetsscience]

It was an absolutely brilliant move

[@BruceStephan]

I agree . From what I've read (besides whatever Noel revealed ) the band never really made any money . Warner Brothers really ripped them off . Roth , and the Van Halen brothers talked about some of the 🐂💩 they put up with in a 2part ADKOT promo video on KZbin .

[@johng618]

Noel was the man! Rest in Peace 🌟

[@mrufino1]

Noel’s book was a great read. I didn’t realize he had passed away.

[@kdm71291]

A lot of this I knew, a lot I didn't....interesting stuff! Balance is probably the hardest, most rocking of those from the Sammy era. My first concert was in the 1982 on the Diver Down tour.......and then I saw them on the first tour with Sammy in 1986 for 5150....both at The Forum in LA......and I was there for Monsters Of Rock when it came to The Coliseum in LA.....each of those shows were great, with a special nod to MOR for being a 9+ hour epic rock orgy with a bunch of great bands!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That is freaking awesome! To see them at those different periods must have been pretty cool. Thank you kindly - I am glad you enjoyed it 🤘🤘

[@mattmacarthur520]

You know you’re massively successful when your “worst”selling album still goes double platinum in the states alone lol

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Damn right!

[@charleskandrut7022]

Live album yup!

[@ugaais]

Yet David Lee era outsold Sammy 57 million to 27 million and David Lee outsold Sammy solo..Sammy was good solo and in Montrose…Van Halen 1 and 1984 outsold everything Sammy has done …

[@0U812FU]

​​@@ugaaisIt's actually 57 million to almost 48 million.. Also if Sammy has anything over Dave, other than a better voice, the fact they had four number one albums with him as Lead singer and Roth didn't have any amazingly enough...

[@ugaais]

@@0U812FU Thriller was #1 for like a year when 1984 was released and any album can be number 1 then fade quickly…and you read you stats wrong it’s 57 million to 27 million, they as an exercise took the average of the Sammy era sales of each album 6.75 million and multiplied it by 7 to get 48 million…two problems they didn’t make seven with Sammy and there’s no way to know if they did what they would sell(they made 4)…and even if you said the 7 would sell at the 6.75 clip it’s still millions short….Van Halen 1 17 million and 1984 17 million outsold all four of Sammy era combined…5150 sold 11 million Sammy’s best effort..

[@Pepsolman]

Awesome vid! Look forward to the next!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much! The final installment is going up Sunday night. I really appreciate your kind words!! 🙏

[@mikerichardson8983]

I hate when they say Van Halen changed their sound! Van Halen adjusted to the time! Anybody with any kind of brains can see that in 84, Eddie and Roth had already started to write more of pop rock instead of hard rock songs! Everybody always says that the music changed when Sammy joined the band, but the music had already change with the 84 album. Hell most of the 5150 music was already done before Sammy joined the band! People say that their were two Van Halens, no Eddie just saw the writing on the wall, and knew that he had to changed to stay relavate. Sammy was the perfect frontman for the time! He could write killer lyrics and knew how to get the best out of Eddie. Everybody can say what they want about Sammy but without Sammy, Van Halen would have been done. We all saw what happen with Gary, that was a shit show! In my opinion, we were lucky to get Van Halen as long as we did, it sucks that we have to get old. We lost Eddie way to early, but his music will live forever. Long live THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN! RIP EDDIE.

[@Craig-hk5wp]

Ppl forget their sound started to shift on 1984 when Dave was in the band. But Sammy get what some would call blame for the shift

[@DRock980]

Yeah I don't know I was alive and well didn't hear no industry wide shift. If you want to call Bryan Adams🤮 Bon Jovi🤢John Melancamp🤧 Is this the shift you refer to? Because if it is that shit was garbage. I liked Sammy Hagar on his own he sounded like Sammy before Van Halen and Van Halen with Sammy just sounded like Sammy. So I like Sammy better than those mentioned lol but his time in Van Halen as good as it was commercialy failed in the respect Van Halen lost their edge the magic that made Van Halen in the first place. Van Halen lost their danger element thus the need for a band such as Guns and Roses to fill that void. While Van Halen became like Bryan Halen sorry lol and Dave became a comedy act lololoThat's what I think though I just grew up in that era and that's my take.

[@TomGrubbe]

I didn't know that back story about the change in managers. That says a lot about Sammy's judge of character. He's such a positive guy.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you - it's pretty wild what happened, things must have been always in some kind of upheaval in the VH camp during the late '80s to early 2000s.

[@asnark7115]

The other version of the story is that Sammy brought in his old manager who managed to overcompensate Hagar for the live album in comparison to the rest of the band, so the Bros. and Anthony got really mad at both.

[@paulgrimm6317]

The bass player was played sadly! As a former bass player that sucks he was with them from day 1 & DESERVED equal credit. Very sad Also to learn Eddie Passed in 2020 , RIP EDDIE YOU MADE ROCK HISTORY & forever made guitarist look up to you. I was forever grateful to be in a tribute band called FAIR WARNING in Toronto back in the early 90’s…..Thanks for all the memories!❤

[@guitarmeetsscience]

🤘🤘

[@Steve-l6c5o]

DLR brought the party. Hager brought the love. Gimme DLR

[@shawnlewis1918]

I loved BOTH versions of Van Halen but I can also say that everyone involved in that band at any given point were aholes with the exception of Sammy and Michael Anthony....those 2 guys are gold on the inside!

[@Crank-n-Craig]

I always thought they named the album "OU812" in response to Daves "Eat em and Smile?". In retrospect Van Halen was great with Dave and Sam. Legends. Enjoyed your video! Thanks

[@guitarmeetsscience]

I wouldn't doubt that they didn't at least see it as a bonus in response to Edom and smile. That feud went on for quite a long time! Thank you for the kind words Craig!! 🙏

[@NelsonRiverosMusic]

Why did they do that to Michael Anthony?? Eddie recording all the bass parts. They really treated him badly.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Michael really got bad treatment - in the next one I go into a bit more depth on that. Buy all accounts he is a great guy and definitely does not deserve that whatsoever

[@VicRonson5150]

Yes they did, more than once. VH wouldn't have sounded the way they did without MA, not because of his bass playing but his backing vocals

[@BruceStephan]

Yes and no . Sam put alotta spin on the way they treated Mike BUT in the Van Halen brothers defense , Mike never wrote a song . He was treated like a session player .

[@ReneCastroDrum]

You gotta ask was Mike even allowed to write a song ??? Looks like he was barely allowed to be the bass player !

[@NelsonRiverosMusic]

@@ReneCastroDrum you can barely hear him on first few records. I think it wasn’t until they change producers that they raise them him up on the levels.

[@bobbymauro3721]

Awesome job on this dude! Spot on with the historical accuracy!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much man - I appreciate your kind words bro!! 🙏

[@mattlucas4046]

Van Halen TO ME is this lineup: Eddie Van Halen, Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony & Alex Van Halen. Black & Blue, Mine All Mine, Cabo Wabo, When It's Love, Love Walks In, Summer Nights, Good Enough, Dreams, 5150, Why Can't This Be Love, Best Of Both Worlds, Judgement Day, Poundcake, Right Now, Top Of the World, The Dream Is Over, Run Around. My childhood.🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@chadkj5915]

Nah early VH with Dave was the best

[@ericdegroot828]

They did Michael Anthony dirty. Idc what they say. He was loyal from day 1. Always there until he wasn't...

[@ericwilliams9440]

Not Enough so underrated!

[@rockingsteady4019]

Sam &Dave have both added beautiful things to the VH band: no doubts about that.Ed Leffler was a close friend, almost family to the brothers.He kept the band together until his passing. After Leffler died Ray Danniels took over the management of VH and everything collapsed because Ray has anticipated friction and distance between the members of the band.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

@@rockingsteady4019 yep exactly!! Sammy called him out.... He was the most perceptive about Ray.

[@SuperDrJeckyl]

I always liked Sammy as singer much better than Roth. It was more about music. But Roth should get a ton of the credit for making Van Halen famous as he got them the attention to get them started.

[@AgentPepsi1]

As much as I loved 1984, I cannot stand "Jump", and Sammy Hagar 100% right. I understand they did play my favorite song of that work: "I'll Wait". All in all, I love the Hagar years. I met Sammy Hagar once, and he was a very kind gentleman. 😊

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Oh yeah - I'll wait is a great song! That is very cool that you got to meet Sammy!!!

[@AgentPepsi1]

@@guitarmeetsscience 😊😊😊

[@jimallen6197]

We got to listen to Eddie Van Halen for 42 years. Ain’t a damn thing wrong with that!!!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Not a damn thing!! 🤘🤘

[@xdude2x]

I like both eras, no need to pick a side for me

[@damonstewart70]

You always deliver da goods

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks Damon I appreciate that bud!!!

[@peter-0200]

Lots of info I haven’t heard before. Excellent job.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much!! 🙏

[@MarioPepe]

Excelente work!! 👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks Mario 🤘😎🤘🙏

[@pacsun-guitar]

So good video!👍👍👍

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you 🤗

[@Fast2Whls]

I love that you actually narrate your own vids, hiccups and all. I cant watch a vid with a robot voice, ever. You state what happened; no hype, no opintonated BS, just "here's what happened". you just earned a subscriber.. VH forever; whichever version.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That totally makes my day - thank you a million!!! 🙏

[@stiffrichard2816]

I don't think Dave's ego was the problem, Eddie's ego was even bigger. It was just creative differences. Eddie always belly aching and talking sh** about people.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

The room wasn't big enough for both of them half the time

[@morganneher8643]

That live take of Dreams spur of the moment in the studio made me a Sammy fan, he’s powerful

[@guitarmeetsscience]

@@morganneher8643 they played together so well by that time!

[@bassangler73]

Nice job!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much!!!

[@marklivingston1479]

1st cassette I bought was 5150. I still have it. 🤘

[@Madame702]

What people don't understand is that Sammy Hagger and Eddie Van Halen had 5 number one albums and sold 42 million records.

[@jimmybiter2936]

Great doc Jimmy🤘🤘

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks Jimmy! Great to see you bro 🤘🤘

[@asnark7115]

It's really hard to imagine Rush taking on a manager or anyone else who was *quote* a slimebag.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

I don't think he started out that way - because he pretty much started his career with Rush. He just became that way over time.

[@dankippert2677]

DREAMS AND BLUE ANGELS BEST PAIRING OF SONG AND TRIBUTE SONG EVER...M

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Definitely a great pairing!!!

[@thecrazycatdude8066]

Awesome documentary my friend. Great channel. Van Halen forever

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much my friend!!!

[@tomlewis5542]

Pro work Hoss!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much man!!! 🤘😎🤘

[@Benji8461]

These are great videos. You've done an awesome job. Keep up the great work.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you a million!!!!

[@AndrewLemmings1998]

I don’t think they fired Dave. Dave quit, he wanted to be a movie star and was in talk with a bunch of Hollywood types about a movie he would star in, and he had a new band he was working with on the side as well and was showing up late to rehearsals only to start fights and walk out. David was jealous since he wanted to be the center of attention, yet Eddie was getting more and more attention due to how amazing he was on guitar.

[@goshgolly8305]

Great channel

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much that really makes my day 🙏

[@danmeek928]

I saw Van Halen in both era. With David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar. I’d like the band better with the red rocker.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That is cool that you got to see them in both major eras!

[@dinoc734]

I’m not saying DLR is a better singer than SH, but the personality with theVan Roth songs are hard to duplicate with any other singer. If you told me in 1986 VH wouldn’t be any Van Roth songs even though it was a new singer, I probably would’ve passed.

[@GggA.T.-music]

Balance is the best Van Hagar album!

[@elstifo]

Yes!

[@SonicGrace]

Cool !!!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

🤘😎🤘 Thanks brother

[@CorinDmfechne]

The content is very good

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you kindly! 🙏🙏

[@alphalifestyleacademy]

22:03 My first concert was with this tour in I think around March 1992.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

They sounded great from the footage of that show. Must have been awesome to see live!

[@tellofiriometto5810]

VH had the best guitar player , the best drummer at the time, but DLR was such a clown , when Hagar came along , I knew the band was complete .

[@travelinben1966]

Roth=better front man Hagar= better singer

[@user-pc5jp7ld6j]

It was never Dave who wanted Van Halen to go in a pop direction, it was Eddie.

[@HazeOfWhearyWater]

Sammy wanted them to go Disco. I read his book.

[@scottnorris8071]

Actually it was Roth who was the disco queen

[@Pepsolman]

Dave wanted show tunes and burlesque music to swing his tassels to.

[@jamesball5743]

Dave wanted guitars and screams, Eddie wanted sap and synthesizers.

[@michaeltammaro482]

STOP.

[@duncanwalwyn8241]

OU812 was a retort to Dave Lee Roth's "Eat em and Smile" albm as far as I know

[@AndrewLoukidis-jr2bp]

Supposedly Ed had hundreds of riffs, ideas and songs on tape but their albums were short with not many songs on them.

[@richardhilborn1459]

Great band unmatched guitar player all great singers end of story

[@DarrinR.-pq8md]

At the end of the Panama video, Edward hangs by his leg. Is that the same leg he replaced a hip on..?

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That's a good question - I never really thought about that! Who knows, could have been some wear and tear - but then again he did so much jumping around on stage so who knows

[@Hoosinner]

Do you think you could cover Jeff Healy? I think he was a very not known musician. He was blind that also played with SRV! And I think it would be cool for a video dedicated to him! Since his background isn’t really well known or talked about !

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Absolutely! He is on my bucket list as well as Prince which we had discussed before. I didn't realize Eddie's story would stretch out as much as it did, turns out he had a pretty big history so I ended up doing four parts. Jeff Healey was a monster - it's amazing how he was able to have his hand over the fretboard and do all those bends and vibrato just as soulful as any of them great players. Such a shame we lost him at such a young age. Keep those ideas coming - You are definitely into some great players!!!

[@damageincorporated8558]

Eddie Van Halen just strikes me as a pretty humble crazy waster, he did it his way at his own pace and it is what it is, a legendary guitarist playing with really good Musicians

[@wshrig]

My All Time Favorite Bands is the Van Halen Sammy era 1985-1996.. It was such a huge mistake for the Van Halen brothers to move on from Sammy.. Gary Cherone was god awful and DLR couldn't since anymore..

[@TheCD5150]

Eddie was NOT SOBER during the making of Balance. Eddie had major problems with his health with his hips, and the fact he had problems with alcohol and cocaine at this time. Sammy nearly left in protest over that.

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

It never ends...

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Sadly no.... One more to go 🤘😆🤘

[@grubbetuchus]

Eddie Van Halen was a fan and a friend of guitar great Frank Zappa. Sammy Hagar is an incredibly good guitar player, melodic, and technically talented. His guitar skills are grossly underrated by too many people.

[@rozzie101]

I didn't really get into VH, until Sammy joined the band...

[@charleskandrut7022]

Same here! Once I heard Best of Both Worlds I was hooked!

[@JohnnyBeane]

My 1st =VH= album was 5150.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Very cool - see you got into them post Roth initially... I didn't know that. First one I got was diver down and it was a noisy cassette copy that a friend made for me. Then 1984 came out and so I signed up for Columbia House (the 20 tapes for a penny) and got all of their albums. Parents were pissed lmao

[@candycane1921]

The standard at the time was full albums (not demos) containing banger after banger. How did they come up with so many good songs in a row? Each track being an introduction to the next 😢 music fans don't get that anymore

[@guitarmeetsscience]

You're absolutely right - they weren't just albums They were entire experiences. Nowadays everything is in bite size pieces and it is a darn shame.

[@Taxationisstealing]

I don’t think Ed was that sober during balance

[@guitarmeetsscience]

It didn't last long

[@BruceStephan]

​​@@guitarmeetsscienceYeah . Hagar's diva attitude gave Ed an excuse to fall off the wagon . Contrary to Hagar's 🐂💩 he started getting to act like the leader of the band . There's a VH compilation ( I think by Howard Stern ) on KZbin that shows Hagar say on video " This is MY band . " . And in the next clip he says " Lead singer of the band , leader of the band , what's the difference ? " .

[@feiticeirafatale561]

@@BruceStephan He says that in his book as well. But he also claims that before him it was DLR who was leader of the band, that it was never VH brothers. It seems possible since it was DLR who named the band 'Van Halen'.

[@aaronwood8012]

The demos for women and children first have amazing bass lines - much better than the final album

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Good to know I will definitely have to check some of those out

[@drewgeraci8434]

i prefer the Roth songs but he did kinda screw himself. All the cover tracks and other stuff to pad some of the albums was frustrating to me. Sammy's version is not for me but I respect the quantum leap they made to redefine themselves to bigger success. One thing that bugs me is how Michael Anthony got short-changed. Aside from killer bass, his harmonies contributed greatly!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

I agree with you 100% - why they did Michael like that I'll never know, because by all accounts Anthony was really cool and very easy to get along with

[@ugaais]

They were bigger under Roth..David Lee era outsold Sammy 57 million to 27 million and David Lee outsold Sammy solo..Sammy was good solo and in Montrose…Van Halen 1 and 1984 outsold everything Sammy has done …

[@drewgeraci8434]

@@ugaais Never knew that. I just assumed when Hagar wrote those wussy ballads for Van Halen, they became the biggest hits.

[@ugaais]

@@drewgeraci8434 an album can go to number 1 but fade quickly the only reason 1984 didn’t go number 1 was Michael Jackson’s Thriller was out.

[@gslide06]

Good video. Those Van Hagar albums are good to excellent. But zero interest in seeing the current Best of Both Worlds though. It's not. The Dave era is minimized thanks to Sam's ego and refusing to comprehend the depth of Van Halen fans who love both eras but demand more depth from the Dave years besides "Ain't talking about Love" and "Panama". Lame effort Sam.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you! 🙏

[@mr.timebombman2230]

Interestingly enough, Ted Templeman, who was their producer and worked for Warners, had suggested Sammy from the beginning when they got signed. Luckily they didn't heed that advice or we wouldn't have all that classic stuff. As much as Roth was a difficult personality to work with, I really think they wouldn't have been that successful early on. For all Dave's inadequacies he helped make them as influential as they became.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Their music back then probably would have been pretty rocking. Considering the work that Montrose has done - I'm envisioning stuff that sounds a bit more like the verse part of 5150, summer nights and drop dead legs kind of vibe

[@WestCoastRoller]

Source of infection!! 🎸🎸🎸🎸

[@guitarmeetsscience]

🤘🤘

[@aus80srockradio94]

Sammy was the best thing that happened to VH. 5150 is pure proof.

[@cdraper7277]

According to Sammy's book, Eddie wasn't sober during Balance.

[@bookofthedamned]

I saw VH live with Hagar. But what a bunch of assholes the bros VH were, businesswise.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

They definitely had their moments for sure!

[@jessekauffman3336]

Wolf is awesome

[@richevans609]

After all the years of finger pointing.... Blame Chart as goes : Eddie = 33.3% Sam = 33.3% Dave = 33.3%

[@BruceStephan]

Songs Mike wrote = 0% .

[@richevans609]

Those numbers just take the edge off of the ridiculousness!

[@gabrielshelwood3072]

Ed didn't cut his hair until '95 for the release of balance

[@bb-gc2tx]

2:36 daves hair starting its farewell tour 🤣

[@guitarmeetsscience]

😆😆😆😆

[@rmarty550]

No doubt Dave was a great front man, but without Eddie he flopped. Eddie’s guitar will live on, Dave’s singing, not so much.

[@diamondd2778]

EVH was an asshole, treated people like sh#t . Dave was hard work .Let Dave do his movie thing n it wld have been fine. It was good w Sammy. Started great but it faded .

[@damonstewart70]

Hey next please do how dave hooked up with steve vai!!!

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

I Adore him. Good choice. ❤❤❤

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That is a good one! Steve Vai is in the cards for sure 🤘🤘

[@Larrys-rc1ch]

Dave's high school lyrics wha? Please.

[@ltjjenkins]

100%. Hard music to write lyrics for in the early days.

[@j800r_aswell]

I really wouldn't consider the Hagar era "pop". Commercial success doesn't immediately mean the genre has switched to pop. Or at least, if it was then I would argue much of DLR Halen was also pop. Jump being the most pop track in their discography and Panama not far behind. Regardless, Hagar is the more talented by a lightyear and that is objective fact. DLR may have been a performer but he was also an egotistical tw@.

[@BruceStephan]

Yet Dave sold more Van Halen albums and will always outsell Captain Candyass

[@ugaais]

Dave wrote the lyrics and Van Halen with DLR sold 57 million records to Sammy’s 27 million plus Dave outsold Sammy Solo as well..liked Sammy Solomon’s in Montrose..

[@BruceStephan]

Album sales says Dave's the most popular choice by far .

[@VicRonson5150]

No brown MnM's, brown is only allowed in your sound. News flash, the only one that thought Dave was the main attraction was Dave

[@BruceStephan]

Yet Dave sold more albums with the band , NOT Captain Candyass .

[@guitarmeetsscience]

@user-rt9zq8rs9k ROTFLMAO 😆😆😆😆

[@LaloBerumen]

DLR yell is part of VH just like Eddie's tap on he guitar and unique sound is what made VH sound not the cheese voice of Hagar they went from rockers to wimps They sucked with Hagar but Hagar had his own sound before VH

[@kirkbolas4985]

Finish What Ya’ Started…Eddie played that tune on a stock 1964 Stratocaster.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

He got a great snappy sound on that one

[@rebeccamizell1071]

Sammy was beat for

[@andrebriscoe2272]

Bertinelli🥰😍

[@danielabilez3619]

No matter what. Eddie has passed. He loved drugs more than music. Alex will not with Sam and Michael. Roth wants to control the tribute but he can't sing. What is left is what is left. I will not see what is left. Why? Ticket prices are to expensive for what you get! I prefer a tribute band or Lynchmob with George Lynch at a club. The VanHalen brothers did this to themselves.

[@SavDog262]

Yes but George needs to change the name to WokeMob

[@michaeloneill1360]

F U C K is my #1 Van Halen Album!! Just wishing I could find & buy either a DVD or Blu Ray video of 'Right here Right Now'.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

I'm sure it's out there somewhere - might be expensive though if they're not in production.

[@JokersWild70]

Time and record sales did show that Roth was NOT bigger than Van Halen as an entity.

[@indydude3367]

Eddie called their original record contract a "Motown Deal".

[@guitarmeetsscience]

I could totally see that!

[@rebeccamizell1071]

Sammy Hagar beat out dlr by long shot great band

[@kaylaschulz7515]

Mad

[@guitarmeetsscience]

🤘🤘

[@jonesy2111]

I completely lost interest in the band when Dave left… I remember hearing the new stuff with Hagar and it sounded like the band Foreigner with a good guitarist (a line I’ve been quoted on by fellow musicians) - AOR radio rock and it just sounded so cheesy to me. After watching this I have more understanding of why it didn’t resonate with me. And yes I tried to like this version of the band and Balance was definitely the best album of that incarnation.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

They were definitely onto something when they hit the balance era, but sadly the tensions just got too high. It's weird because it was so cyclical - just like when 1984 was coming together, they were really heading in a new direction when everything fell apart. It would have been interesting to see what they would have come up with after balance had that lineup stayed together

[@phildodson6141]

Balance was the worst during hagar era! Too 90s grungy sound...not upbeat fun party music. I'm a fan of both eras.....5150 or fuck were the best sammy albums.

[@BruceStephan]

​@@phildodson6141That's funny . I agree . VH3 is better to me than Balance . To me , the best on the album is the 2part instrumental .

[@Zoo1424-w7o]

I didn't lose interest but I remember being so excited when I heard Sammy joined the band. Hager! Van Halen! This is going to blow the roof off! And instead it was like a version of Journey at first. Man I was disappointed and enjoyed DLRs first two solo records. But years later, songs like "Summer Nights" take me right back to those days...and I haven't listened to a DLR song since I don't know when.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

@fredmcgill848 Summer nights was a real standout on that album. I always put that in a category along with drop dead legs and mean street as some move the most deep grooving stuff of theirs