Eddie Van Halen: The Roth Years

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@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Please, kindly smack those 'like' and 'subscribe' buttons....my Shih Tzu greatly appreciates it!
@johnmoser2689
@johnmoser2689 7 ай бұрын
Fair Warning is still my favorite album of the Roth era!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Such a great album!
@johnmarshall3903
@johnmarshall3903 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, it was also their best tour as well.
@Krullmatic
@Krullmatic 7 ай бұрын
'Tis a great one, but I've gotta go with Women and Children First.
@briantoplessbar4685
@briantoplessbar4685 7 ай бұрын
Mean street to so this is love. Best back to backs on any vh album
@ToddWaterman-jx7zd
@ToddWaterman-jx7zd 7 ай бұрын
I gotta go with van Halen 2, all of the first five albums were awesome but something about their second one just felt like they were on the cosmic groove
@mizzjamisun1224
@mizzjamisun1224 7 ай бұрын
I was lucky enough to see Van Halen in person late 70's Thanks God...
@TheOceanMan-xc7qp
@TheOceanMan-xc7qp 7 ай бұрын
Those first 6 albums and tours were beyond special...VH was larger than life in the Roth era
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
You said it perfectly!
@HeadNtheClouds
@HeadNtheClouds 4 ай бұрын
Yes! I would be sitting in the first 5 rows & the sound of Mikes bass rattled your insides & brain. You could literally feel your internal organs vibrating & the bass just punched you in the chest. You had to be there, but it was so intense! And Dave coming out with his jumping off the risers & Kung fu kicks, belting out primal howling & singing , Alex pounding the shit out of his drums & Eddie of course on another dimension of wild unhinged guitar playing. All at the same time! Maximum intensity! 😮🤟🏼😎🤗♥️ saw them every time they played! My aunt owned a ticket outlet & would save me seats by the stage to everything for about $8
@Sheila-q6p
@Sheila-q6p 6 ай бұрын
Album no. 1 was the best, thats the album that turned me onto Van Halen when I was 15 yrs. Old.😎😊 seen them at Cobo arena in Detroit. They were warming up for Black Sabbath at the time. That was an awesome concert!! 👍🎶🎤🎸keep on rockin' !! Sheila from FL. ❤
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That must have been a phenomenal show!! 🤘😎🤘🎸🎸🎸
@rothed16
@rothed16 6 ай бұрын
When they were Giants! Those first 6 Albums are so great. Loved Sammy taking over for a departed DLR, but still those first 6 are untouchable.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
100% agreed - vintage VH was one of a kind
@ronaldelfleet3123
@ronaldelfleet3123 6 ай бұрын
Your commentary is so lucid and informative - thank you so much. What Van Halen had was versatility and this showed in those first six albums. I was privileged to see them in 1978 at the Rainbow Theatre in London and again on their World Invasion Tour in 1980. I have never seen a better band since and doubt I ever will - they had it all !!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Ronald!! You saw them at some great times in their career!! I appreciate your sharing your experience. That had to be really awesome to see them live during that time!
@loucaruso3971
@loucaruso3971 4 ай бұрын
Finally We Got Some Documentary About Woman & Children !!!! All Doc"s Seem To Go From VH 2 To Fair Warning, The 1 I Heard Was Eddie Talking To Raidio Station After They Wrapped Up Woman, & Went Into Speaking About Songs, Try To Find A Documentary Speaking On Woman & Children First, Which I Feel Was Van Halen"s Best Album !!!!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Woman and children first is quintessential Van Halen!! 🤘🤘
@ftworthtexan9082
@ftworthtexan9082 3 ай бұрын
As a huge fan of Van Halen, i will always be absolutley blown away with VHI. Eddie's guitar playing and sound was unbelievably unique and still blows me away to this day, I have always thought the original tunes on Diver Down is some of their best work also. Hang em high, Cathedral, Secrets, Little Guitars and the Full Bug are all damn great songs.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 3 ай бұрын
@@ftworthtexan9082 oh yeah - though I like 1984, diver down was really the last of the old Van Halen albums as far as I'm concerned. Old as in classic sounding. And of course the very first album Eddie's tone was completely scorching on that
@Krullmatic
@Krullmatic 7 ай бұрын
Michael Anthony is a great singer as well!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Oh yes!
@c-LAW
@c-LAW 6 ай бұрын
No kidding. He sounds as good or better than Roth.
@SansomKa
@SansomKa 2 ай бұрын
Should have taken over from Roth, but the Hagar Era may not have happened.
@basher5107
@basher5107 Ай бұрын
No he’s not a good lead singer,he’s a great backup singer and a great bassist
@MySteamChannel
@MySteamChannel 6 ай бұрын
As a hard rockin Australian, I absolutely worship this era of Van Halen just as much as Bon Scott era AC/DC...R.I.P dear Eddie.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Props to the Aussies! You guys brought us AC/DC, Tommy Emmanuel, Frank Gambale, Brett Garsed, and of course Men at Work (One of the most grooving drummers on the planet is in that group)... among so many others. Thanks to Australia from here in the US - it's a hotbed of talent down under 🤘😎🤘
@SonicGrace
@SonicGrace 7 ай бұрын
Yup , That was probably my favorite Van Halen was the early years , The sound that set a new standard . Excellent Dude !!!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
That was a great time for a great band - Thanks brother 🤘🤘
@WestCoastRoller
@WestCoastRoller 6 ай бұрын
Great piece here from my favorite rock band of all time!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I appreciate the kind words 🙏
@tim46387
@tim46387 6 ай бұрын
Very well done, and I totally agree that the inner tensions in the band on the Fair Warning album were evident, which is probably what made the record so great and my personal favorite as well. The only question I have is the knocking sound at the beginning of the Beat It solo. I always took it as Eddie Knocking on his guitar body, as no part of the guitar was off limits if it made noise with that guy. RIP King Edward
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much I'm glad you enjoyed it! That was somebody knocking on the studio door, but I'm not sure who it was. They happen to capture it on the mic and so they flew it in over the recording.
@Renegade_222
@Renegade_222 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you about Fair Warning. It's my favorite VH album. And I love that it wasn't popular.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Yep! People just didn't get it.
@santinodemonte5616
@santinodemonte5616 4 ай бұрын
You sir are appreciated for these epic episodes
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much - I truly appreciate it!! 🙏
@Michaell17588
@Michaell17588 6 ай бұрын
Love the skydiver stunt!
@ruperterskin2117
@ruperterskin2117 6 ай бұрын
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much - I'm glad you dug it! 🤘🤘
@stevew6910
@stevew6910 7 ай бұрын
Eddie has said a million times, Everything was by ear and doodles , Getting zapped and burned by parts that he was not sure if it would work, let alone sound like, VH was a one in a million band, So good that Alex is overlooked for his kick ass drumming , The best ever front man was David Lee Roth to top it all off,
@rothed16
@rothed16 6 ай бұрын
Anthony throwing in those backing vocals should not be overlooked either
@Timothious-cs8ho
@Timothious-cs8ho 6 ай бұрын
1984. BABY. WOOO. TOO MANY GREAT ONES ON THAT ALBUM
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Damn right! Their sound was tight by that time!
@TrashyLobster
@TrashyLobster 6 ай бұрын
Drop dead legs!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Fav
@Wolf.51.50
@Wolf.51.50 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Can't wait for part 3! Long live The King! 👏👏👏
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much - not only is Eddie and the band amazing - but their story is also equally as fascinating as their music. What a band! 🤘🤘
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 7 ай бұрын
Millenials and Zoomers don't realize in the late 70's that hard rock was almost dead and disco was dominating radio --- bands like Black Sabbath and KISS were becoming stale and people weren't buying the records anymore --- Dave and Eddie literally saved rock music and made it fun again --- setting up the entire "hair metal" scene of the 80's
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on Fred! And then again in the early '80s a lot of synth-driven pop was threatening to dominate. Again, Van Halen saved the day by fighting fire with fire essentially. Of course that was not Eddie's motive, but they kind of did it just by chance. So then the metal bands started incorporating keyboards and the rest is history. Or really I guess pop and hard Rock and metal all kind of played nicely with each other after that point.
@michaelbeale518
@michaelbeale518 7 ай бұрын
You could make the argument that Boston also contributed to keeping hard rock alive
@rap3208
@rap3208 6 ай бұрын
Nah, hard rock/heavy metal was never mainstream during that period, it was a fringe underground genre. Being a fringe genre, it was never affected when disco ruled the airwaves, they never lost their core listeners.
@michaelbeale518
@michaelbeale518 6 ай бұрын
@@rap3208 it was and it wasn't. The biggest acts of the 1970s, were for the most part rock bands. Many of them were as popular as any of the top 40 pop music. They just didn't sell singles.
@petrockanroll
@petrockanroll 6 ай бұрын
I remember ac/dc laying a big smack to the face of disco.
@noctisambulo7408
@noctisambulo7408 4 ай бұрын
Regarding "fair use", I am fully aware why music clips are super short, but this part just made me lol 24:07
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha Good catch! I do that a lot as kind of an inside joke (and to make sure I play it extra safe)
@noctisambulo7408
@noctisambulo7408 4 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience excelent timing
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
@noctisambulo7408 haha thanks!
@michaeljohnston4127
@michaeljohnston4127 6 ай бұрын
Was front row at FSU when they and Journey opened for Montrose. Unbelievable. Very few guitarist make leaps and bounds. Hendrix, Eddie were two of those special talents.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That must have been an incredible experience!
@jonathanlafrance8643
@jonathanlafrance8643 7 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary! Great narration! 👍
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! That makes my day man 🤘🤘
@jonathanlafrance8643
@jonathanlafrance8643 6 ай бұрын
Dittos!!
@JohnnyBeane
@JohnnyBeane 7 ай бұрын
=VH= rules!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Exactly Johnny! I still remember getting the news when Eddie passed like yesterday. Digging into his work again and life story is a real treat.
@LuoJun2
@LuoJun2 4 ай бұрын
I saw Van Halen in 1982 at the Hara Arena in Dayton Ohio during the Diver Down tour. They opened with “Romeo Delight” - BOOOM- Fireworks! Guitar slamming! Drums crashing! DLR does his signature split leap off the drum stand! DLR runs up, grabs the mike, and shouts: “I FORGOT THE F*$&%ING WORDS!” We all laughed, then the crowd started singing. DLR picked it up and the rest of the concert was phenomenal. Eddie played “Little Guitars” on that classic miniature Les Paul and blew me away. Sadly, Hara Arena was destroyed by a tornado in 2019, and Eddie died in 2020. That closed a chapter of my life.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
Wow man - that must have been awesome to see them in '82! Lmao - most singers would just shrivel up or mumble their way through it, Dave just gave it straight up apparently lol. Such a shame to hear about the venue, and of course we were all completely bummed when Eddie passed. Definitely a chapter closed for sure.
@silverliner4894
@silverliner4894 6 ай бұрын
The first time seeing Van Halen was 1980. They backed up the Doobie Brothers with Michael McDonald and people started leaving after Van Halen left the stage. I went on to see them 3 more times after that
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That is freaking awesome! Had to be pretty cool to see them during that time.
@christyler6234
@christyler6234 7 ай бұрын
Wow, great video on one of the best bands of the 80’s.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!! 🙏🙏
@christyler6234
@christyler6234 7 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience Sure thing man, you’re welcome. Absolutely earned my subscription!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you man!!! 🙏 Always glad to meet a fellow VH fan 🤘🤘
@kdm71291
@kdm71291 6 ай бұрын
I can tell you that they closed the show in ‘82 with Happy Trails, much to our delight. I have always contended that Fair Warning is possibly their best album, musically speaking….and that darker, kind of cynical tone was a great fit for my friends and I at that time and for a couple of years after.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - fair warning has so many cool things going on. It was great to hear the band with their original lineup in such an experimental stage. I think it's their most inspired and creative album of the bunch.
@dirtydave2691
@dirtydave2691 5 ай бұрын
I was at the Anaheim Stadium gig. I was 13. Van Halen were absolutely on fire. Sammy was good and Sabbath although cool were running on fumes. Boston was the headliner but came on nearly 3 hours late.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
@@dirtydave2691 that had to have been awesome to see in person!
@Marco-tg3nk
@Marco-tg3nk 7 ай бұрын
First 80's best time ever
@charvelshredder
@charvelshredder 7 ай бұрын
Roth era is the best era! It’s like comparing Black Sabbath to Simon & Garfunkel hehehe! Listen to the bootlegs from the first tour…Eddie was burning! DLR brought the best out EVH🎸🤟🏻
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - the bootlegs from that first tour are amazing! They wanted to show everybody They had arrived and they certainly did!
@armara70
@armara70 6 ай бұрын
The Roth years were the only years that mattered, unless you want to listen to Survivor meets Journey.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
😆 survivor meets journey.... Good one!
@clutch2827
@clutch2827 7 ай бұрын
Fair Warning is perfection.
@tomlewis5542
@tomlewis5542 7 ай бұрын
Great work man!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much man!!
@davidstock2713
@davidstock2713 7 ай бұрын
Eddie was a repeat customer, at station unocal 76, coldwater blvd/ventura blvd, approx every 2-weeks mr smiley would arrive, he knew the lead mechanic at point time, planned with mechanic a surprise christmas present for two of us young employees, an auto graphed diver down newest release. They both planned this surprise during summer, to give at christmas season. Even came with valerie couple couple occasions. Many others loyal repeats as well, barbara eden weekly, christene lund weekly, charleston hesten bi-weekly, chevy chase weekly. Diver down with eddies/mechanic idea, towards auto graph. One of a kind non-purchasable gift. All due to eddie being eddie. There goes eddie down coldwater cyn to 101 on/off ramp.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Wow what a first-hand account that is pretty awesome! Thank you for sharing that!
@davidoverstreet6900
@davidoverstreet6900 7 ай бұрын
What a coincidence; I'm listening to all of my Van Halen CDs right now. Listening to 'Girl Gone Bad' from the 1984 album. Van Halen ll took a week to record because most of the songs were already originally singles.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Right on!!! It's funny because I do that periodically as well - and I'm always struck differently each time I go through the collection. So much depth to their work
@davidoverstreet6900
@davidoverstreet6900 7 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience from January to August of 1978 I remember hearing single songs, that were, later, on their 2nd, 3rd, & 4th albums. I definitely remember hearing 'Beautiful Girls', 'And the Cradle Will Rock', 'Take Your Whiskey Home', 'Could This Be Magic', & 'D.O.A.'! And there were probably several others that I don't distinctly recall😄
@Waterschei
@Waterschei 7 ай бұрын
Real VH years !
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@SupraRy
@SupraRy 4 ай бұрын
Although fair warning is my favorite roth era album, i really do like diver down even though thats an unpopular opinion.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 4 ай бұрын
I'm in that camp too - that was actually the first album of theirs I got so it was a strange introduction. It's got some scorchers on there too!
@andrejz8954
@andrejz8954 Ай бұрын
Hang em high my fav VH track just a little under Ain't talkin bout love. I'd prolly still pick the latter for my definite no1 tho
@in5d
@in5d 6 ай бұрын
How crazy would it have been if Sammy Hagar was in Montrose in 1978 when Van Halen opened for them, Journey, and Black Sabbath?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That would have been pretty wild!
@superflysoulbrother
@superflysoulbrother 7 ай бұрын
Well done!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏🙏
@hellboundrubber4448
@hellboundrubber4448 2 ай бұрын
Hot For Teacher sealed Van Halen's greatness. Just when it seemed like they couldn't do any better they blew everyone out of the water. It was all Alex on that one. Nobody could believe how crazy those Drums were on the intro. Pure Van Halen insanity.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! Friends of mine were trying to do it on their drum kits - one of them actually came up with some kind of double bass pedal contraption and turned floor toms over. Got pretty close but still no cigar lol
@davidbutler8850
@davidbutler8850 7 ай бұрын
The best.,.. did Harmony in lead vocals and everything., this is what made Van Halen great whatever anybody's opinion is.... I would say David Lee Roth invented the sound.... With Eddie... And I think in the early days they needed each other dearly 😎😎
@denniswilliams2385
@denniswilliams2385 6 ай бұрын
While I love Sammy and the band definitely laid down some killer tracks with him, what they managed to achieve during the Roth era was truly magical.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely right!
@ScoobyDooby530
@ScoobyDooby530 7 ай бұрын
David Lee Roth was a singer 👍
@bluemichimusic9507
@bluemichimusic9507 7 ай бұрын
And lyricist!!!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
And one who could come up with a great PR stunt!
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 7 ай бұрын
​@@guitarmeetsscienceSammy couldn't . The band put on a better show with Dave . The US Festival is better than LIVE WITHOUT A NET .
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
They just had so much swagger back then. What a time for Van Halen!
@TomGrubbe
@TomGrubbe 7 ай бұрын
I didn't know that about Mr. Big taking the Pretty Woman riff and playing backwards for Wind Me Up. Great classic rock tidbit.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Right on! I'm glad you caught that part. Having listened to Mr Big a whole lot, that pretty much floored me when I read about it and then decided to give it a whirl and reverse it. It had to make it into one of the videos somewhere. Similar to when I found out that Dee Snider wrote the chorus of we're not going to take it with the same melody as o come All ye faithful. Crazy stuff lol... Thanks so much!
@everydaystuffandthingsguy4554
@everydaystuffandthingsguy4554 2 ай бұрын
Saw the Fair Warning tour on I believe August of 1981 at Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati. I sat dead center and as far back against the very back wall that you could get but didn’t care because I was seeing the Mighty VH at 12 years old! As far as the previous year when they appeared after the Who tragedy and the police making all arrests I remember Dave during a musical breakdown talking to the crowd reference the police but quickly changed course to talk about a girl he met in the local Cincinnati bar probably realizing that taunts against the police wasn’t wise. But after the Who, the city was on edge and asking your parents if you could see VH at Riverfront was almost a gar untended NO. The arrests at the previous show after the Who made sense especially if you lived in the area. The city was so paranoid and facing multiple lawsuits that The Carpenters, or Air Supply would have had multiple arrests. FYI: I am not a fan boy that makes cheesy comments for a like or a comment back but I do have to say that by far this is one of my favorite channels for so many reasons. So comprehensive and well produced. I love how the storylines and the inclusion of the videos that just tie everything together perfectly! I fall asleep to the stories so hitting like and subscribing is the least I can do. Thank you!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 2 ай бұрын
Wow - that is one hell of a story, and what a time to see Van Halen live! Damn! And man can I just say that that is such a huge compliment, and I truly cannot thank you enough. Sometimes it's hard to stay motivated doing this stuff, but then somebody like yourself comes along and drops kind words like that and that is what keeps me motivated. Huge high five brother!
@Chainsaw_HM-2
@Chainsaw_HM-2 6 ай бұрын
Fair Warning: My favorite *=VH=* album and my absolute favorite guitar tone. So many Marshalls were modded because of that album.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Oh I believe it - everybody was chasing that tone, and a lot still are
@brenthatcher5748
@brenthatcher5748 7 ай бұрын
Women and Children First is my fave VH album. Mike and Alex kill it on this one.
@DMDvideo10
@DMDvideo10 6 ай бұрын
Based on Steve Lukather's video interviews Eddie recorded the solo for "Beat It" to a hand tapped MJ click track well be fore Steve and Jeff recorded the rhythm, bass and drums for that song.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Only one problem with that - Eddie's tapping at the very end follows the chord progression of the verse
@DMDvideo10
@DMDvideo10 6 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience Watch the Lukather interview. It took Jeff Porccarro a week to figure on MJs click timing. Wasn't exactly perfect.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
I've watched the interview numerous times. But according to Eddie he actually had to rearrange parts of the song and he found the verse better to solo over. And sure enough melodically his notes follow the chord progression during that tapping part. Eddie's side of the story makes more sense
@DMDvideo10
@DMDvideo10 6 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience All Lukather would have to do is listen and play the correct changes behind the solo. Too easy.
@DMDvideo10
@DMDvideo10 6 ай бұрын
So yes Ed arranged the solo based on movements he like but there was nothing there for him to play to. It was added after.
@TheCousinEddie
@TheCousinEddie 6 ай бұрын
I've always wondered about the part of the video where Dave is being escorted by the police wearing a towel and handcuffs. I'm almost certain it was staged but it looks really, really good. Anyone know the backstory?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I'm not sure which part you're talking about. He's worn the cuffs a couple times.... But I only remember putting in backstage stuff so maybe you caught something I didn't catch
@delanoarts3703
@delanoarts3703 6 ай бұрын
I get why rhe band was pissed about beat it but seriously it was one of the most iconic guitar solos ever recorded that's straight facts and van Halen who was already a legend became a icon in pop culture from then on it was totally worth it in the long run
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
You absolutely nailed it on the head! It was a crossover before a crossovers were even the thing. My only guess is that they didn't realize just how big it would become. If I were Dave I would have been pushing Eddie to do that one
@richardmitchell8213
@richardmitchell8213 7 ай бұрын
To me it’s actually very sad that DRL didn’t stay for the “keyboard” era of VH. We got a preview of what it would be like with 1984 and it was actually very good. My argument is that era would have been better with DLR than Sammy. What do ya’ll think? Love to hear your take on this.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
I agree - Roth brought so much personality to the band. I think that they were great with Sammy, but also I think Eddie was getting a lot of pushback from Dave - so they probably would have ended up splitting either way. I'd like to see what other people think too.
@ugaais
@ugaais 7 ай бұрын
Add in DLR influence with the Eat’em and Smile vibe and the formula would have been special..
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
@ugaais now THAT would have been a hell of a combo!
@dukeford8893
@dukeford8893 7 ай бұрын
Dave got out at the right time. He was still in the band when Eddie was writing the music for "5150" and he didn't like it.
@scottnorris8071
@scottnorris8071 6 ай бұрын
Roth can’t sing
@marsMayflower
@marsMayflower 6 ай бұрын
Fair warning is the G.O.A.T.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Ohhhh yeah
@jessekauffman3336
@jessekauffman3336 6 ай бұрын
Is 5150 still in the Van Halen family?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - Wolfgang records in it all the time. A lot of is more current videos show him in the studio. It's definitely being used quite a bit these days.
@almatsas351
@almatsas351 6 ай бұрын
Fair Warning and the tour were The Mighty Van Halen at their Mightiest!
@messi8921
@messi8921 7 ай бұрын
VH1 & VH2 are great albums 🎸
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely slamming albums!!!
@gilt2349
@gilt2349 6 ай бұрын
Have you heard fair warning?
@RobertRagolia
@RobertRagolia 2 ай бұрын
The Roth years means the best years, the only vh that matters
@ugaais
@ugaais 7 ай бұрын
My list 1)Van Halen I 2) Fair Warning 3) Van Halen II 4) Woman & Children First 5) 1984 6) Diver Down 7) A Different Kind of Truth NOTE: There is a very slim difference between them and Fair Warning could be number one depending on the day….Love The Mighty Van Halen DLR era only..the soundtrack to my youth…
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Awesome breakdown and I like the ordering! I think had different kind of truth been done earlier, like for example in place of diver down I bet it would have ranked very highly with that lineup.
@damianbowyer2018
@damianbowyer2018 7 ай бұрын
No Band has made such an Impact on Their First Tour, as a Support Act. Van Halen blew-away all the Headliners in 1978 and even Toured Japan with Black Sabbath, which I don't think any other band went to Japan in their First Year, not even The Beatles or Led Zeppelin. Cheers fm Damo😀
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
You got that right!!!
@JimFreeman-h6g
@JimFreeman-h6g 7 ай бұрын
It was I'll Wait that M. MCDONALD WROTE ON... He said when he got paid, it was the single most lucrative piece of work he ever done...lol.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Yep - and he didn't even have to lay down a single vocal track. He got flown out, wrote some lyrics and headed home. Pretty easy gig.
@stevemundy9886
@stevemundy9886 7 ай бұрын
I can only listen to a few songs from the years with Sammy
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
They are kind of two different bands.
@TheB00Man
@TheB00Man 6 ай бұрын
That's a few more than me 😜😆
@theycallmerisky619
@theycallmerisky619 3 ай бұрын
You can actually stand those songs?? 🤢🤢🤮🤮
@TheB00Man
@TheB00Man 6 ай бұрын
*1984* Was the last Van Halen album but what a great album to end on... after that they should have changed their name because it wasn't the same at all.
@ScottMasson
@ScottMasson 6 ай бұрын
Do VH fans not like giving 1984 credit because it was wildly popular? I mean….some of the band’s biggest songs are on there?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
It's a great album! I actually see it as total redemption from diver down. Even diver down I love it brings back great memories, But it was almost like a comeback bridging the gap with their earlier awesome album fair warning
@DJSpecialSauce
@DJSpecialSauce 7 ай бұрын
Nice video. One error. My understanding - from all of the articles I've read over the years - Michael MacDonald was called to help Roth with I'll Wait... NOT Drop Dead Legs. Might want to correct that.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much - it's funny because somebody else said that too. I thought I must have had a real brain fart so I had to go back and watch that section. It turns out that I covered the part about I'll wait concluding it talking about how Michael McDonald was brought in, then I just moved on to drop dead legs. I'm thinking The transition just wasn't smooth - because I immediately uttered title of the next song instead of saying "another song on the album.... Drop dead legs...." Or something to that effect. It's a good lesson in making sure topic transitions are done smoother. Thank you for pointing that out!
@dougsteeleguitar
@dougsteeleguitar 7 ай бұрын
Cmon. Whiskey is a great song.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
You got me all wrong Doug! Whiskey is an awesome tune! I just kind of wished that they kept to the groove that was kicked out by the acoustic guitar - just add that little bit more swing than it would have been perfect. But yeah it is an awesome tune!
@dougsteeleguitar
@dougsteeleguitar 6 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience It's all good my bro!! I need to watch all your vids.
@davidbunch1080
@davidbunch1080 5 ай бұрын
Used to bug me that EVH guitar was shoved to one side on the 1st three records. It's like there was room left for a 2nd guitar. VH 0 isn't like that.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 ай бұрын
Yeah - I think Ted templeman was trying to recreate the feel for when they were on stage. Of course it was kind of neat for people with a balance control, you got to hear the Van Halen albums in a different light depending on the panning position.
@theycallmerisky619
@theycallmerisky619 3 ай бұрын
VAN fuckin' HALEN!! 🤘👌
@lee-daniels
@lee-daniels 4 ай бұрын
I think Panama is one of the best guitar tones ever.
@jeremias4792
@jeremias4792 7 ай бұрын
Defenitely needs a van hagar version! This was AWESOME!!!!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! It is definitely coming next Sunday - I'm glad you enjoy this one!
@ButOneThingIsNeedful
@ButOneThingIsNeedful 6 ай бұрын
I wonder why so many VH fans feel the need to go full-on tribal and pick sides based on the band's front man. I agree the dynamic changed with the departure of DLR, but that doesn't make Sammy trash. I think Dreams is a terrific VH song, for example, and there's no way on this planet Roth hits those stratospheric highs that SH does. By all means have your favorite, but how 'bout we all enjoy the best of both iterations?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Excellent point!!
@troyelliott390
@troyelliott390 7 ай бұрын
Sharing
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Troy - I appreciate it man!!!
@vincentroberto9789
@vincentroberto9789 6 ай бұрын
Smoking!!!!!!!
@BruceStephan
@BruceStephan 7 ай бұрын
Dave took alotta 💩 for having the band play pop songs in the bars BUT that's what they had to do when they play the bars . That's what they bars were there for drinks and dancing . Dave has always been a better PR man than Hagar .
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Excellent points! They definitely paid their dues - and Dave played a big part in paving their way to success.
@doodlebob3758
@doodlebob3758 7 ай бұрын
Dave may not have been what you would call musically brilliant, but without his influence, Eddie's songwriting suffered, growing more formulaic as time went on.
@doodlebob3758
@doodlebob3758 7 ай бұрын
also, it wouldve been godly if someone lugged a heavy camera to one of their backyard party sets. 4 hours of covers, all Van Halen-ized wouldve sold millions, easy.
@stephensmith2736
@stephensmith2736 7 ай бұрын
I was there Van Halen and Black Sabbath and Van Halen didn't blow Black Sabbath off the stage Sabbath played we sold are soles for rock and roll album. The best and in 78 I went to every rock concert that came To Massachusetts.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Ozzy always had a good sense of humor about it. I had to throw in his quotes....
@FrankTerzo
@FrankTerzo 7 ай бұрын
Very ccol
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Frank 🤘😎🤘
@joetanaka6446
@joetanaka6446 7 ай бұрын
The Roth years are the only years. 4th generation Californian born in the 60s. Seen Van Halen 3 times outdoors, 5 times indoors.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Very cool!!
@the_atomic_punk487
@the_atomic_punk487 7 ай бұрын
Feel the same to an extent, I like 5150 as well
@DtotheK88
@DtotheK88 7 ай бұрын
Na.. Sammy years were great too.. just different.
@edwincrain986
@edwincrain986 6 ай бұрын
I do love me some Van Halen!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 ....Remember me?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - good to see you bud 🤘🤘
@ElGatoPardo693
@ElGatoPardo693 7 ай бұрын
The Rothen Years
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!!
@themattlewisexperience
@themattlewisexperience 6 ай бұрын
I think you meant Argent.... Not argon
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Right.... Good catch 👍
@mmiller303
@mmiller303 6 ай бұрын
Came here to say this.. Hold Your Head Up is almost as important in the pantheon of rock as any single during the 70's. Love this walk down memory lane though and Fair Warning is my fave of the Roth era.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
It is a great track! I know Argent lol sometimes when I'm doing these videos I think my brain and mouth sometimes run on different circuits. I'm glad you enjoyed it - and I'm on the same page when it comes to fair warning.... Great album from start to finish
@johnferreira7419
@johnferreira7419 6 ай бұрын
Sammy Hagar years were boring, let’s face it back in the day you can’t replace Dave it’s just like replacing Robert Plant our Steven Tyler some singers have that character, I’m sure it worked for some bands but certain bands you can’t replace certain singers.
@scottnorris8071
@scottnorris8071 6 ай бұрын
4 1# Albums say differently
@MrCheekyrust
@MrCheekyrust 6 ай бұрын
Yeah no, Sammy was way more talented and as far as Eddie went , he was in heaven bc he had a singer who would do what he wanted and could also hit those notes without making gimmicky noises , I love Dave, but Sammy is the MVP
@bobcast6024
@bobcast6024 6 ай бұрын
🤣😂 🤷🏻‍♂️ @ 17:15 “and Roth, not knowing the difference between Spanish and Mexican, made the lyrics more Mexican in nature to compliment the song.”
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
🤘🤣🤘 You caught it man - great catch haha!!!
@bobcast6024
@bobcast6024 6 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetssciencetoo funny😂
@bobcast6024
@bobcast6024 6 ай бұрын
@@guitarmeetsscience
@shaunclifton5281
@shaunclifton5281 6 ай бұрын
Nothing comes close to The Mighty Van Halen. 1985 was like a funeral. Just like Andy Griffith without Barney Fife.
@andrewreed1329
@andrewreed1329 6 ай бұрын
the band needed rhythm guitar, in the studio eddie would play awesome rhythm, but live there is a hole. also their is a reliance on covers as their song writing was not the best.. they just fell short in a few areas, which makes most albums feel a bit of a mixed bag
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That's definitely an interesting take. I'm more particular toward the four piece sound with a single guitar, but they did use it to great effect when Sammy joined because Sammy is also a pretty ripping guitarist. They complimented each other - so I guess even if early VH had a guitar player that worked really well with Eddie it might have been a pretty explosive sound live. Very interesting take Thanks for that
@TrashyLobster
@TrashyLobster 6 ай бұрын
1984!
@MichaelCoughlanmusic
@MichaelCoughlanmusic 6 ай бұрын
SO WRONG DUDE. YNG AS AN OPENER ON VHII IS PERFECT. THE ARRANGEMENT IS PERFECT.
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Fair enough man! It is a great track no doubt. 🤘😎🤘
@E.C.2
@E.C.2 3 ай бұрын
Diver Down was the last great VH album. 1984 was a let down,the sound was thin and treble heavy.
@M.H.I.A.F.T.
@M.H.I.A.F.T. 3 ай бұрын
You are even more knowledgeable about Van Halen than Patrick Bateman is about Huey Lewis or Phil Collins :-)
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 3 ай бұрын
Hahahaha lmao that makes my day thank you! 🤣🤣
@davehoward22
@davehoward22 7 ай бұрын
14:00 Then? she looks about 14..
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
Probably was - didn't meet Eddie until she was much older though
@ernesteison7979
@ernesteison7979 6 ай бұрын
VAN HALEN is EDDIE ALEX DAVE MICHAEL .... PERIOD
@scottnorris8071
@scottnorris8071 6 ай бұрын
I must of dreamt the Hagar era
@wayne387
@wayne387 6 ай бұрын
Women and children first
@almatsas351
@almatsas351 6 ай бұрын
Edward was quite the dishonest schemer. But Roth was labeled as the troublemaker?
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
Well Ross had his moments as well. After a while I think they just grated on each other's nerves
@Tomana_
@Tomana_ 6 ай бұрын
"Excellent PR stunt" Translation: they DECEIVED the audience
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
That is all PR stunts are
@anthonybarlow1767
@anthonybarlow1767 6 ай бұрын
Has to the worst dressed band. Poor Micheal.... even his so called friends didn't stop him from wearing that uh shirt? 😮
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 6 ай бұрын
😆😆😆 It was cool at the time.... Well, save for the shirt that Michael was wearing 😆
@andrewreed1329
@andrewreed1329 6 ай бұрын
agree, also roth although good and better than hagar was still way too clowny and cringe…
@AnchorMeenuPawar
@AnchorMeenuPawar 7 ай бұрын
1lk
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 7 ай бұрын
🙏🙏 Thank you so much
@pookiemartinez1745
@pookiemartinez1745 7 ай бұрын
unfortunate same riff Down in Flames became you're no good.
@BubbaThaumaturge
@BubbaThaumaturge 7 ай бұрын
Roth made them. They became nothing after his departure. Like it or not, those are the facts.
@scottnorris8071
@scottnorris8071 6 ай бұрын
4 1# Albums say different
@sircassian5568
@sircassian5568 6 ай бұрын
I LOVED ROTH'S SHOWMANSHIP BUT HIS VOICE SUCKED. THE MUSIC CARRIED HIM.
@andreavelinodacosta1418
@andreavelinodacosta1418 6 ай бұрын
If you prefer Sammy ' era , you are not a Van Halen fan ...
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