Edelkrone SliderONE v2 vs SliderONE v2 PRO | HONEST comparison!

[@harbselectronicslab3551]

Have you pressed the Power Mode button in the App, and also adjusted the drag to stop it dropping down........mine will lift a much bigger heavier rig than that, so I would check.......update your firmware

[@PhillipSkraba]

When it comes to the PRO absolutely no problems, with the base version I've pressed power mode, though it didn't have too much of an effect, firmware is always updated as they force us to do that. Now, adjust the drag?? How can I do that??

[@prio.realestate]

Noise level? Could I conduct an interview with the slide/pan moving very slowly?? Camera at 3ft or 5ft from subject and mic positioned overhead or under.

[@PhillipSkraba]

That should be fine, it’ll be very quiet unless you put it on full blast which really isn’t needed in an interview scenario.

[@prio.realestate]

@@PhillipSkraba Thanks for the info!!! I have older SliderProPlus with the action modules but real need a smaller and easier rig for travel. While I typically use a A7s or R5 I am going with the Pro versions of the SliderOne because I am going to attempt to slide a C500.

[@PhillipSkraba]

I also have the Slider Pro Plus Long, and it's too loud on a full slide over 30% speed for interview situations, it's also a lot less smooth than the SliderOne in my experience. The Pro version will be a much better option as it has push and pull motors.

[@RDJim]

Nice review... so what's the difference tween the head1 and head1Pro?

[@PhillipSkraba]

I think there is only one head, unless you mean the big head. The small one can pan or tilt, the big one can do both, but it's huge.

[@fsb5370]

The haywired sound and move at 10:20 I encountered in the horizontal position. I have the v2 because I do not need the payload of the pro. Also, look into the tilt kit 2. I have a few edelkrone pieces.

[@PhillipSkraba]

I find I only get that crazy noise in tilt mode, when the payload is too much for it to handle, which is weird as it's below the 3.1kg stated by Edelkrone. It tilts smoothly to a certain point, then when it goes past that point it's almost as the motors give in and just let go. Same goes with the SliderONE v2 in vertical mode, it should be able to handle the headONE, a7III and 24-70GM, which it struggles with and as soon as it's done it's slide, just drops the motor power and lets go of the camera. I'm actually in the middle of filming a comparison right now when it comes to footage, as a LOT of people has been asking me if it's jittery. So that should be up in a day or two. I'll definitely look into the tilt kit 🔥 I personally think they are a really great company, nothing is perfect, I've shot a lot on these sliders and managed to pull some really beautiful footage out of them. Thanks for stopping by!

[@fsb5370]

@@PhillipSkraba the only thing I blame myself and somewhat edelkrone is additional accessories you should buy to avoid jitters. Flat base adapters for tripods, or simply tripods legs without the heads. That helped in jitters.

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@fsb5370 Well, if you check out the film I put out today, you'll see that both the v2 models do a pretty good job. Maybe one or two micro jitters, but apart from that on a stable tripod with a sensible lens, these sliders do a really good job. I'll pick up the tilt kit next month and see if that changes anything to the stability of the HeadONE, as that is my main worry, tilting.

[@robreichfilms9623]

Do either of the sliders make any noise? I couldn't hear it in the beginning when they were both moving, but perhaps you did a noise print or room tone? Great vid nonetheless!

[@PhillipSkraba]

Depending on the speed both are a little noisy, the Rhino more so.

[@robreichfilms9623]

@@PhillipSkraba So loud that it would be audible on a second cam during an interview?

[@LudoArtFx]

Great comparison! Any info about the battery life for both? How long do they last? I guess that the battery is not really used when they are not moving? Thanks!

[@PhillipSkraba]

Thank You! A couple of hours on the Canon batteries, it's worth getting the dummy battery if you want to roll all day, or the V-mount they just released if you want to stay mobile.

[@LudoArtFx]

@@PhillipSkraba Well I was actually looking a the website and they have the option of the dummy battery. I was not sure of what it was. It's basically an adapter, right? Thanks for your quick reply!

[@PhillipSkraba]

Yes, you plug it into the wall socket and you're powered all day. I use one on my camera on my KZbin studio setup so I can film all day long and not worry about battery life. It's a great choice for the Edelkrone too!

[@longfeilu2937]

Great Video! I have a question. If we left the battery on the slider, will it drain?

[@PhillipSkraba]

Thank You! Yes, yes it will.

[@longfeilu2937]

@@PhillipSkraba thanks, i remember slider one can be operated mannually without battery. is it the same on the v2?

[@PhillipSkraba]

No, I'm afraid the V2 is battery only. The SliderPLUS can be operated manually and electronically though, I have that too and it's pretty great!

[@lukejasso1183]

Hey Phillip it looks likes it has been about a year since this video was put out. Are you still happy with the Pro, or have you decided to go in a different direction?

[@PhillipSkraba]

Yes, I'm still very happy with the Pro, it's an excellent slider, especially when it comes to modular systems available now, I'd say it's the best micro slider. However, if you'd like to save money and get something just as smooth, if not smoother, but without any current modular devices that'll allow you to parallax, then the Zeapon is a great choice!

[@simonedeb]

Great and useful video. Is there any possibility to switch the SliderOne v2 slider in manual mode, like the his big brother, if the battery runs down?

[@PhillipSkraba]

I've afraid not! That is a downside when it comes to the v2 version, as the v1 version you could as the slider could be used separately from the motors. For this reason I actually picked up the v1 slider only from Ebay, just so I can have a tiny hand slider. Thank You for dropping by 🔥

[@simonedeb]

@@PhillipSkraba tnx a lot

[@martina-photo]

Thanks for the comparison. I noticed a similar behavior during a time-lapse recording with my SliderONE v2 in vertical position. The weight was even lighter. For this reason, the slider probably slipped back only a few millimeters. I had contacted Edelkrone about this problem. Here's the answer: "In the Time-Lapse mode, as you already know, motion is move-shoot-move, so system gets to a point, triggers your camera and wait there until interval is completed. While using SliderONE v2 on vertical alignment, SliderONE v2 tries to keep the camera at the same level throughout the whole interval and it may increase the battery consumption of the unit since motor is always running during this interval. So that, not to increase the battery consumption, in the firmware SliderONE v2 is programmed to stay at the same level for 3 seconds. " This explains why the v2 slips after reaching the end position. This is probably not a problem with the Pro version, since it is equipped with two motors, which increases the resistance. The timelapse was still okay. Before the camera was triggered, the slider automatically set the correct position again. However, it is still a restriction on the time interval.

[@PhillipSkraba]

Yes! Before I decided to put my money down on Edelkrone instead of any other slider company, I borrowed my friends SliderONE v2 and HeadONE, I used it a lot in a loads of different situations, and one that really got me thinking was the vertical position, it would slip like you know, so I thought the PRO version with its two engines using a push pull type method must work better in this case as well as smoothen out some of those micro jitters when horizontal, and I was right, it really does! The standard version still does the job until it lets go of the motors at the end of a move. I can see how the time-lapse option can be a pain when this happens as it comes to the end of a move a couple of hundred times during one slide. The one thing that keeps me freaked out is the HeadONE in vertical mode and the way it slips when it goes over only a couple of degrees, I still have to buy the tilt kit to see if that changes things as I'll be able to balance the camera weight. Fingers crossed! The great thing with Edelkrone is they always have new updates trying to help us out to make things better, I really have a lot of respect for them for that, it's like they never give up and are constantly improving their products for us.

[@engagef]

Im thinking to change my rov pro for the edelkrone SliderONE v2 do you think could be a good idea ? thanks

[@PhillipSkraba]

Yes! It is a whole different world!! My Rov Pro has sat on my shelf since I bought it, it's waiting for Rhino to do an update where I will have control over key poses and more control over speed, until then it'll sit there and gather dust. The Edelkrone on the other hand has programable key poses, goes very, very, very, very slow if you want it to, so great for macro, time-lapses, talking heads, and I find it to be a lot smoother. I'm honestly very disappointed in Rhino and the fact they can't do one simple update, Edelkrone drops updates all the time, you can see they are constantly working on their products and making them easier to use for us, so I really respect that. So yes, I think it's a very good idea!

[@engagef]

@@PhillipSkraba thanks ! BTW super useful video!

[@KarlsMovieFilmShow]

Hey, Great comparison video, I've been considering buy one of these soon and this video really helped. ;)

[@PhillipSkraba]

Thank You! I'm happy I could help, fantastic sliders.

[@jhavoc22]

Hey man which head are you using on your tripod for the vertical slides? Thanks

[@PhillipSkraba]

Do you mean what Manfrotto head I'm using?

[@jhavoc22]

@@PhillipSkraba Yeah, looks like it handles the vertical weight of the camera and slider very well.

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@jhavoc22 O very well! It's an excellent head, very, very sturdy. You lock that sucker down, it's not moving anywhere. It's the Manfrotto 808rc4 🔥

[@antipodesman]

I have thought about building a manual slider with a track and a roller-skate type mount that would be pulled with a reel. I'm wondering if anyone has tried something like that. It could be pulled horizontally or on an incline. It would be more work to operate but a hell of a lot less $$. Probably not suitable for professional use but who knows . . . it might be more reliable and no batteries or mechanical failures to worry about.

[@PhillipSkraba]

It's worth a try, I've seen various devices, and used odd adaptions myself. Give it a go!

[@Kawinwu]

Thanks for the great review. I was at the point to order the SliderONE v2, but I noticed the jittering in your video. I might go for the PRO version to avoid the jittering since I have a heavier camera + lens combination (Canon 1DX MKII and 24-70mm lens). Not sure if I want to use it in the vertical position anymore having seen your test... By the way, when you were showing the footage at 8:16, were you also using the HeadOne on the SliderOne v2 PRO?

[@PhillipSkraba]

You're welcome, it's great to see it's helping people! I would honestly go for the PRO version, it makes sure any headaches in the future are avoided, especially with heavier setups. The vertical position on the PRO is fine, unless you're using the HeadONE, however I still need to test that out with the tilt kit, that might work better. Yes, in that shot I was using the same setup and exact position for both sliders, and both had the same HeadONE attached to them. The footage came out the same with the 2nd HeadONE my friend lent me. It's more the pushing/pulling power of the non-PRO version that creates a little bit of jitter. It's something that would no doubt disappear with some post stablization, but some people really hate on it, which I can understand, it's a lot of money spent. Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment 🔥

[@shamp00-nl]

Thank you for this video! Very informative. By the way, are you from Sweden? Of Dutch maybe?

[@PhillipSkraba]

Thank You! No way, I haven't heard that one before! I'm from London 🔥

[@shamp00-nl]

Wow, sorry for that one haha. I just heard a tiny little accent and thought you might be from on of these countries. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@shamp00-nl Wonderful countries, I've been to Sweden and Denmark, stunning places and lovely people, but no, I'm from the UK, currently live in Poland though.

[@nomad0714]

Hi Phillip, Happy NY! Just subbed and appreciate the honest and not sponsored review! Get the new JibOne that just released! It is on sale for $300 less until Jan 31st (priced now at $999). It can do horizontal shots (i.e. slider shots) and vertical/angle shots (i.e. jib shots) with a flex tilt head 2 or HeadOne or HeadPlus, depending on your use case and/or budget. I just bought into the system a few weeks ago (bummer) but with the projects ahead, I'll be able to rationalize all these investment.

[@PhillipSkraba]

Nomad 24 the JibONE looks awesome, I would love to get my hands on it sometime this year. I’m guessing I’ll test it out at NAB first and see how it really works. It looks great in the reviews though! What products did you buy? I really love the SliderONE v2 PRO, it really holds up well, I wish the HeadONE was more powerful though. Happy New Year to you too, I hope it’s a great one, sure sounds great 2000 and 20, just rolls off the tongue! Thanks for the sub, great having you on board 🔥

[@nomad0714]

Hi Phillip, yeah the JibOne is a pleasant new product that is welcome. Let me know if you get to play with it at NAB. Planning on ordering it in next few days. I purchased the Headplus pro + silder plus pro long 25” + slide module v2. Very nice system. Looking to seeing more of your content in 2020 and beyond. All the best!

[@PhillipSkraba]

Nomad 24 wow! That sounds like a mighty purchase! I would love to get the JibONE in the future, I can just see all the awesome shots that can be created with it! Thank You! Let me know how the JibONE turns out. I’ll be getting lots more great content out this year 🔥

[@nomad0714]

Hahaha! Thanks Phillip. Yeah that purchase put a big hole in my wallet. Hopefully the upcoming projects will pay for it quickly. Keep creating!

[@PhillipSkraba]

Nomad 24 it no doubt ripped your wallet in two, that stuff is so expensive! You too! Keep creating 🔥

[@SHOOTITFilmPhotography]

Thanks a lot, just what I needed! Guess I will have to spend the extra cash to get the silderONE PRO v2 and the headPLUS PRO. Quite a lot of money but I think I'll be more satisfied with that setup than any of the cheaper bundles.

[@PhillipSkraba]

Fotograf Markus P I’m happy my comparison could help you in some way. I am not 100% satisfied with the HeadONE when it comes to vertical movements, the SliderONE PRO v2 though is perfect, the head, not so much. If I find one on sale I will test out the tilt kit and see how that works with my setup. Stay safe 🔥 Thanks for dropping by!

[@SHOOTITFilmPhotography]

@@PhillipSkraba I ordered bundle #022 from Edelkrone, with the sliderONE Pro v2 and the headPLUS PRO. Also added the standONE. With all that extra money spent I really hope it will have no issues with load capacity. We'll see! :)

[@sccts]

Thanks Philip. This was very helpful.

[@PhillipSkraba]

You're welcome!

[@FamilyofTech]

Love my Edelkrone gear!!! Thanks for the video

[@PhillipSkraba]

Me too! What gear do you own and what do you use it for?

[@FamilyofTech]

Phillip Skraba Hey! For KZbin! I have slider plus, headone, slider V2 and Headplus! I pretty much own all of their camera gear! Keep pumping good videos!!

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@FamilyofTech Fantastic! Looks like we're in the same boat in that case! You have a lot of their gear, wow! What do you use more, the Slider v2 or the Sliderplus?

[@FamilyofTech]

Phillip Skraba well I basically use the Slider V2 almost daily for shooting indoor videos. The slider plus more for outside and timelapse.

[@PhillipSkraba]

Family of Tech I will try to pick up the SliderPlus, I’d like something with a little more travel outside. Inside for YT SliderOne v2 is perfect 👌🏻

[@PaulMrPKcom]

Hi, is there any vibrations/shakes ?

[@PhillipSkraba]

Not really, sometimes tiny micro-jitters when then slider starts moving a little too fast, nothing a bit of pot stabilisation can't sort out. Every slider will have a tiny amount of jitter, so I wouldn't worry about it. The Edelkrone sliders are surely the smoothest I've ever tried. *not sponsored.

[@FamilyofTech]

Hey! We are in the same boat! Slider one v2 for product reviews is priceless.

[@PhillipSkraba]

It is! I really love mine, and it's great Edelkrone constantly is updating it, making it more stable. I really don't find mine to be jittery at all, unless I stick a ridiculous lens on it, and like I stated, if I do get some jitter, I just smooth it out in post. I find that all the sliders I've used to far have some kind of jitter anyhow. Let's make 2020 a great year 💥

[@arisariawan6490]

which one better? SliderOne Pro or SliderONE V2 ?

[@PhillipSkraba]

As in the v1 vs v2?? If I were to choose one it would be SliderONE PRO v2. That's my honest opinion, not because it is the most expensive, but because I love the power of the two motors and because of the push and pull of the two motors, it seems that little bit more smoother.

[@amazonas-for-our-planet]

Thanks Phillip, could you use it manually?

[@PhillipSkraba]

No, I'm afraid both of these are power only, you can't push them.

[@youssefnosshy4024]

thank you very informative

[@PhillipSkraba]

Thanks, you're welcome!

[@PS-ys9yg]

Funniest chaotic review ever! thanx

[@PhillipSkraba]

You're welcome! This was a fun one, and quite important for me as it helped me really understand the differences between the two.

[@minimin0425]

10:24 who else had a minor heart attack? Cuz I just did 😨

[@PhillipSkraba]

Me! Everytime I tried that!

[@warathanuts.1005]

Jitter problem?

[@PhillipSkraba]

Warathanut S. yes, people seem to have a lot of complaints about it. I don’t find it to be much of a problem though. It happens when the slider is not secure and or has a front heavy lens that stresses the motors out. I find that if it happens a little post stabilization and it’s smooth as butter, but that’s when I’m really stressing the motors out.

[@varshachaudhari6719]

Nice video...!!!..

[@PhillipSkraba]

Thank You, I'm glad you liked it!

[@sayedmohamd5223]

this could be a 5 min video, thanks anyway.

[@PhillipSkraba]

You're probably right, I like talking though 😂 I really, really fight that feeling, but sometimes it gets the better of me. Thanks for dropping by 🔥

[@sayedmohamd5223]

@@PhillipSkraba thank you for accepting constructive criticism, some ppl have a problem with that, i suggest that you right the script in advance, or you cut whats not needed in the editing phase, thank you and good luck.

[@mertkaracayil]

i found it to be very slow after testing the product. wouldn't buy it.

[@PhillipSkraba]

Yeah, it’s a camera slider, what did you expect??

[@mertkaracayil]

@@PhillipSkraba all I'm saying is i would of expected it to be faster in movement. i would rather use a normal slider. this product is very slow. i was looking to get it for high end property films and let the slider do the movements perfect without human pushing. i will just continue using a gimbal. you can fasten your footage in post production but what if you have subjects moving in your shots footage will look odd. next version needs to be faster for sure.

[@PhillipSkraba]

I'm afraid this slider is not made for high speed shots, however I have used it in "high end property films" in the past, along with a gimbal, handheld work and a drone. The thing about this slider is that it is a motion controlled slider, so it'll repeat its movement to a dot hundreds of times. IF you want a faster slider you'd need to look at something like the Rhino with the high speed motor, however that has its share of problems. Real estate videos in my opinion should be slow, smooth and allow to view to take in the scenery, so for my use, this slider has been fantastic when it comes to property videos. That being said, I personally prefer to use a gimbal for property videos as its faster and less limiting.

[@mertkaracayil]

@@PhillipSkraba thank you for sharing your experience. im not looking for something really fast. just normal speed. i just found it to be very slow not usable even though my style of property films are slow. i just dont see the sliding even when shooting behind a door etc. anyways :) hahah

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@mertkaracayil With this type of slider, of this length, you need to use a lot of things in the foreground, which can look great, but also take time to set up. Only then will you see movement in your frame. You can do this with a gimbal, but using a slider gives you two free hands you can use to open doors, slide objects out of the frame, etc. You can see in one of my videos here I mix the Ronin-S, Mavic 2 Pro, Osmo Pocket and this slider all into one video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHXIpnmBqr-nrpKcttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHXIpnmBqr-nrpI

[@daghanis]

dont make that sound with your mouth man shap!!shap!!

[@PhillipSkraba]

I will. Oh snap.