Edgar Markov Vampire Tribal! | Commander Tune-Ups #81

Edgar Markov is the king of Vampire tribal, and we have a spicy vampiric upgrade to do for this deck! Can we take this powerful beatdown deck and make it even more resilient?
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[@user-up9rg1yc6r]

feel like my main concern with a lot of this is that his best method honestly not attacking. In my experience, Edgar is one of if not the best aristocrat commander, with cards like butcher of malikir and grave pact available too him, he can sacc tokens and make his enemies wide open for his vamps that have words and effects.

[@someepicnerd7821]

How could you not mention the most important part of immerstrum predator? It’s a vampire DRAGON. that’s the coolest thing ever

[@NitpickingNerds]

it is REALLY cool

[@jesper1029384756]

every deck needs at least 1 dragon right

[@edwardfearan5708]

There is also Vampiric Dragon too lol

[@Fishlampclock]

@@jesper1029384756 yes

[@LifeCompanionDogs8083]

And what’s about mirri the cursed. Vampire cat

[@joshdean7523]

Perfect timing! I just received my Edgar in the mail and I’ve been having fun trying to optimize my deck with so many options! Another great video Nerds!

[@markgaudy]

I am a little surprised Anointed Procession wasn't in this :)

[@aklepatzky]

Cause it sucks

[@markgaudy]

@@aklepatzky You should be specific in feedback (especially if it is negative). Why does Anointed Procession suck?

[@aklepatzky]

@@markgaudy if you have to ask then u dont have enough understanding of how deckbuilding works to deserve an answer. Try to think for yourself

[@tiagothinks]

​@aklepatzky what an asshole.

[@mfitkin]

Slaughter specialist is a windmill slam dunk in Grismold

[@NitpickingNerds]

TRUE

[@Cantthinkofname-rp3iw]

Oh my that judge promo art is bussin

[@NitpickingNerds]

It’s really good!

[@firstandlast.1254]

70k, on the way! To the moon, gentlemen!

[@NitpickingNerds]

We’ll see you there! 🌝

[@pedrosimoes4751]

I think Unclaimed Territory works really well in 5c tribal EDH. I don't understand why you said to always cut it.

[@mleet3125]

I played Edgar last week and did not go wide faster than tymna/kodama. I got pub stomped by tymna kodama. Turn 3 smothering tithe, turn 4 parallel lives, turn 6 scute swarm. Turn 7 vindicate against my dreadhorde general planewalker. Turn 8 fiend hunter against player 3's avacyn. He had over a dozen treasure tokens, an online scute swarm, beasties bigger than my tokens. The moment edgar hit the field, swords to plowshares.

[@collateral9159]

This is my problem. Everyone gets scared and gets rid of Edgar and it always is why they lose because they get their panties in a wad and someone else woops them

[@mleet3125]

@@collateral9159 Yep, Kingmaker plays. Gotta love it.

[@bubzettel922]

I actually had half of the cards you guys cut in my deck. Even though I normally hate following online guides 1:1, I ordered alle the cards you added for them immediately because I just couldnt argue with you on them :D

[@ygaudreault]

A crazy card in edgar markov his possibility storm. Does not really affect your deck since you will mainly be rolling 1 1mana vampire into an other one. But it make's it so hard for your opponents to interact with you.

[@JcNanito]

This video was very helpful! I just bought a judge promo Edgar Markov. I’m currently making a bunch of changes to my Strefan precon deck. Some of the cards I will be tossing in are Fiery Emancipation, Impact Tremor, Ojer Taq Deepest Foundation, and Mondrak Glory Dominus. I play with a group of guys who always plays competitive. I needed another deck that stings back 😂

[@starmanda88]

I don’t know where it came from because I was a baby but I couldn’t say grams so I just called her GG. I moved to Louisiana from New York 5 years ago now and I miss my family very much. Oh and I’m saying my daily hello! Love you guys and you make my days much brighter.

[@awsmex5399]

Could just be me but I think you guys brought the mana curve up to high here. Edgar really thrives off of 1,2,3 costing vamps. In my experience anything above that has to be an absolute bomb to be worth it.

[@georg9831]

I agree. The deck runs too many 5 and 6 cmc cards with just 2 pieces of ramp. If u cut that many you have to run a super low to the grund agro list

[@moreplease394]

Edgar Markov is so strong that you could literally play blindfolded and probably win. This is just their opinion on how to build around him and they did a great job because if you have an army of weak vampires then they'll get picked off 1 by 1

[@starmanda88]

Meh I think it’s ok. Edgar is so broken you have to actively try to lose with him.

[@michaelthompson8736]

I kinda agree, but cards like elish norn exist

[@magnusberge]

Fun Fact: The guy who made Edgar Markov said that he regrets making him so OP XD

[@jessesandburg]

It is broken but it is manageable.

[@raresux]

@@jessesandburg managable meaning everyone jumps the edgar player immediately and try to whoop them out of the game before they win 💀

[@aishiw7434]

@@jessesandburg Pretty sure it's manageable only because the vampire tribe isn't necessarily good

[@jessesandburg]

@@aishiw7434 Indeed. It can get out of hand with Cordial Vamp / Indulging Aristocrat, etc etc but it's definitely manageable. Get a Vampire Nocturnus on the field though and you'll start having problems!

[@maxmustermann1111]

i´d never cut blade of the bloodchief. This equip is so nuts in edgar decks. Obviously in a 4 player format with a lot of sacing going on, the value itself is massive. Also it does give the counters to the creature, not the artifact. That means you can pass it around in your squad to make multiple threats that can not be dealt with with 1 single removal. Also it combos with SO MANY cards that you wanna play in this deck. Put that badboy on elenda duskrose => every dying creature (including your selfes sac enginges) puts 3 counters on elenda e.g. This is value engine and boardwipe protection. Wrath is played => sac all your stuff into any outlet => elenda gets like 30 counters and creates 30 1/1 vampires with LL after the wrath resolves. Essentially with a sac outlet you can transform all your free edgar 1/1s into 3 LL 1/1s if need be. Thats wicked. If you play lords, easily make that 2/2 or 3/3. You can create lethal by width incedibly fast. You play karlov? Enjoy getting 4 +1/+1 counters for every single dead creature on the board. You have a creature thats evasive and you cant quite finish sb of? Att with all, sac all blocked creatures into an outlet to boost your evasive creature for +2/+2 for each of them. That thing is 1 mana. Its nuts. Its easily the best equip there is and it benefits basically anyone. This is the artifact in my deck that pulls the single most hate. Maybe Bolas Citadel is on par, because that just wins the game instantly.

[@tab021]

Grandma, Nana. Grandpa, honk honk. Cuz when we were crawling around hed say, "HONK HONK get outta the way kid". We have called him honk honk as far back as I can remember

[@joshholmes1372]

What did I just read.

[@starmanda88]

That’s adorable

[@Darwingreen5]

bummer, I thought this was about Edgar, charmed groom. that's a deck that needs all the help it can compared to his mardu predecessor.

[@joshhudgins5228]

me too my dude crushing disappointment

[@schumerus6786]

I mean toss any Vampire in Markov and you’re good, that’s enough with an house just like him

[@zonimi]

They need to make a Vampire Commander in the same colors so you can play a "high power" vampire deck and a "mid-power" Vampire deck just by swapping the commander out. (or is there one that I didn't notice?)

[@dylanfarley8136]

I was really really hoping that Crimson vow would've gave us a better new vamp commander. I started to look at making a strefan deck but then stopped cause I wasn't excited about building around blood tokens. I agree, a new Mardu vamp would be great to see.

[@stephenstrange5663]

Can always swap out for Licia, Sanguine Tribune if you're trying to lower power drastically for a game. Nowhere near as synergistic or good as edgar and keeps your mardu.

[@starmanda88]

Oh and some quick constructive criticism, when y’all put cut/add maybe move it down off the text box. Sometimes it makes the card impossible to read ❤️

[@thedanath]

Blade of the Bloodchief is broken if you can get it on Elenda. Also if it sticks around it can make any vampire huge. Iv actually won Games With Blade of the Bloodchief. Twilight Prophet is a great vampire, granted not a budget card, but most times youll have the city's Blessing and the extra "draw" is nice.

[@jessesandburg]

I used to think Elenda was hot shit, now I just have her in my binder. Also don't like Blade of Bloodchief myself.

[@rileypowell5354]

Ouphe. Cutting Anje's Ravager? If you're playing Markov right, ravager just says "when Anje's Ravager attacks, draw 3 cards." Crazy good

[@DrHyde-hj3ym]

No Anointed Procession? You had the room and budget for it. It can make this deck got out of hand real fast.

[@Spartan-P]

Olivia Crimson bride + yahenni, undying partisan + patron of the vein is a pretty fun way to remove opponents creatures turn after turn. Throw in a kindred boon and have some enchantment removal handy and you'll be able to steamroll your opponents.

[@supernova86]

Why don't you provide a link to the original deck, and a link to your altered one?

[@anriasi6333]

Cordial vampire,nullpriest of oblivion,blood Lord of vassagorh

[@kylarcheng1346]

The humans from wedding announcement are like servants serving blood, I think it makes humans to prepare the wedding

[@jessesandburg]

Such necessary swaps! 40 creatures is a tad high. I'd take out Immersturm Predator, Callous Bloodmage and New Blood and add the Teferi's Protection, Boros Charm and Night's Whisper, since you're not running much ramp. Or swap those 3 for ramp. That's just my take on it.

[@aklepatzky]

I agree except for whisper

[@emerson685]

I'm just going to throw this out here as I did in another tribal-focused video... buy Tsabo's Decree and/or Extinction if you have to play against these decks frequently.

[@Caktusburger]

Out of curiosity where were you looking at the decklist for cutting cards? Bc patron of the vein was in the precon

[@edwardfearan5708]

Rolled this deck just last night with my own Toxrill deck. Tasty vampires were melted down into happy sluggy bois.

[@stevenwilliams1140]

Sure

[@alarmsytem3351]

In my opinion Anjes Ravenger is more useful as you think, in very aggressive deck you can draw 3 cards after attack, through falkenrath gorger you can summon them again with madness or through reanimate effects

[@Vidious808]

Is this the strongest you guys could get it or is it on the lower power scale you guys are using now? 🤔

[@NitpickingNerds]

We don’t really use our own personal power level for upgrading decks, we try to make the submissions as strong as we can under the patrons restrictions!

[@PawzBrownMTG]

This is such a great tune-up thank you guys I'm changing my deck cause of this upgrade

[@sonsysy4195]

White vampire conquistador in ixalan that has a harbinger effect to tutor captivating vampire. My edgar markov strategy is based around cap vamp. Reviving it and even getting it back from exile like pull from eternity

[@mleet3125]

Only 3 spells to destroy enchantments? And one of those is 6MV? What are we to do against blind obedience, ghostly prison, propaganda on turn 2 or 3?

[@christophervelasquez2063]

I love my Edgar Markov deck, one of my favorite kills is Vampire cutthroat and Hatred lol pay the life and get it all back lol see ya whoever was my target lol

[@nolankatz6555]

Hello, where is the decklist?

[@randomguy6232]

I think Edgar and Disclaimer guy would have a lot in common 👍

[@Kagebushin01]

I love heavy token drops with black when using Gravepact, Edict of Erebos and Yawgmoth

[@marcmarchiano8624]

Amazing

[@savagestoltz]

Best of luck with your challenge guys! I bought 2 cyc rifts to pitch in.

[@BstFrmThEst]

My grandparents on my dad's side were Gramma and Papa. On my mom's side they're Granny and Grandaddy.

[@dylanfarley8136]

Slaughter specialist doesn't do much? Damn, hard disagree. Sure it doesn't have trample or evasion, but at only 2 mana it can very quickly become a serious threat. Imagine you have cordial vamp out or play patron of the vein/olivia's judgement. At the very least it'll force your opponets to spend resources dealing with it and potentially take some heat off of some of the other vamps on the field or what you'll soon be playing.

[@ArchangelJaceAscended]

My Edgar deck is go wide + Aristocrats as a backup. I have most of the vampires you cut in my deck along with the vampires you added. I put Felisa in mostly because I just wanted to play her. I agree with Falkenrath Noble. It's just too expensive for an aristocrats trigger when you have so many other, cheaper options. Also, I bought 2 boxes of TSR. How did I miss Minions' Murmurs for this deck AND Liesa?

[@damonhymer5960]

I won with rakish heir last night. It delivered. Funny, I hadn’t played Markov in months. It’s pretty good, especially 1v1

[@83erMagnum]

Its banned in 1v1 tho ;-)

[@andrewhennelly4782]

Oh boy I love these

[@obadijahparks]

I love the judge promo. I'm glad I got it.

[@psychozen7169]

My Edgar is low to the ground with creature protection and recursion it so broken most folks won't let me play it. I also play 2 broken combos that go infinite with so many other stupid cards in edgar

[@SWUDAD]

do you have a list? i am currently building one and looking for ideas. Thanks!

[@Chaoslorden]

I bought Eddy and was planning to build a deck with him. But.. I find him extremely boring to build around since his main ability is to never be played. I have had him for a year and I haven't even started building him yet because I already know how the deck will perform and there's really no exiting tricks. Play vampire. Buff vampire. Swing with vampire. Is there any other way to spice it up? I could see some kind of sacrifice, altar of dementia, ping when creatures enters your table or something as a bit of extra spice. But it would still mean I never play him. I think they really missed with these eminence commanders and made them stupidly powerful. Especially Edgar.

[@DigitalinDaniel]

Hahaha I'm never not gonna imagine Edgar with a bad Italian accent now :')

[@rubenantonioplasencia4727]

Sick Tee, Joe

[@atsuensteve3843]

Hey Nerds, I love these “tune up” video ideas. I was wondering how I would go about submitting a deck of my own for you guys to look over. I could really use some help with it.

[@kirinblight]

You need to subscribe to their $250 tier on Patreon

[@finks1]

My kids call my parents Oma and Opa because their moms Dutch. My mom Italian but loves it.

[@3weiter]

I use mercadian downfall. It mostly kills any player with only a few vamps attacking

[@ThMnCompwnnt]

Did you hit your goal?

[@jessesandburg]

Also Throne of the Pharaoh God is brrrrrrrokennnnn. I've won games (damn near) solely with that card. Flood board with low drops, play aggro af.

[@zachwilliams6109]

why cut pathway tho like why not take a basic swamp out instead

[@HomeCookinMTG]

I was going to make an argument for three color decks playing pathways but I realize the ones I’m playing them in are, 1 a landfall deck, and 2 A deck that needs to play as few basics as it possibly can for hermit druid

[@antfayden4559]

I can relate so hard on throne of the god pharoh. Card just always under performs for me

[@ConstanceMists]

I’ve only ever played it in a few decks and the only one it ever felt worthwhile in was Lathril

[@jessesandburg]

I'd always performed for me. I like low CMC and playing aggressive. Also with @Full Hero Manga - It does work a lot better in Lathril, in my opinion. More synergy.

[@BornFromEmbers]

With 41 creatures that also come with a 1/1 token Purphoros NEEDS to be in this deck.

[@thenamedoesnotmatter]

10:54 "Fangs" for the games.

[@Spartan-P]

I love that I got the precon for free lol.

[@mufasafalldown8401]

Eminence is such a mistake 😆 Same with Commander Ninjitsu.

[@jessesandburg]

Commander ninjitsu is way more broken. Eminence is just being lazy. Especially Edgar, just play low CMC and you'll be competitive in mid level games.

[@sweetandsaltyminx7310]

My weird family member name is calling ny Aunt Kerry "Tay" what I assume my little baby brain was doing was trying to say Aunty, and landed on Tay

[@mastershake42019]

My Elenda the dusk rose deck is always sad when I see a awesome red vampire. I just dont like Markov. Eminence is just so broken.

[@sinistermind33]

Go Bills!

[@NitpickingNerds]

Hell yea!!!

[@sinistermind33]

@@NitpickingNerds you guys aren't local are you?

[@RedCometNurse]

I would love to see cards come out that absolutely hose Eminence abilities. Something like "Enchant player. Commander cards of enchanted player cost 1 more to cast. If the Eminence ability of enchanted player triggers, that player takes 2 damage". It is literally the worst rule they have ever added to Commander.

[@roflsnpwncakes]

or just errata eminence out of existence. make it only work if the commander is out

[@RedCometNurse]

@@roflsnpwncakes I doubt they would do something like that, but regardless, it is a stupid ability and it needs to be hosed hard.

[@benoitc3070]

Guys - greak work and really good content every day. But, if I may, pretty sure you ranked Edgar as "poop" not too long ago .. so maybe, for the sake of consistency, don't do Edgar tech videos or at least show us the worst Tergrid deck possible :) ! All the best

[@NitpickingNerds]

I can’t remember the exact context for that but if we tossed him in poop it was probably for design or fun 😂

[@starmanda88]

I think that was because he has eminence and many people think that was a massive mistake on WOTCs part.

[@adamcappella8088]

That was because he was so powerful he can make games not fun and he doesnt have much diversity.

[@maxvinzi]

Would love to see this with Najeela without combos

[@cameronglenn6716]

Why not necrologia

[@dylanfarley8136]

My guess is that they don't like the idea of having to hold open mana for your entire turn in order to draw cards, that for the most part, you won't be able to play until your next turn.

[@maybeisuckatlife]

If you can't figure out this commander on your own then your father and I are disappointed in you.

[@suzzosuz563]

Ouf

[@ohdeasu]

You guys are so wrong about wedding announcement. It's a mechanical fail absolutely. No arguments, it's no good in the deck. But flavour fail? Are you insane? A deck of vampires where you can sack things. Human tokens make the most sense. Vampires eating humans. Ultimate flavour for a vampire focus. flavour wise it's perfect. Shit card for the deck though.

[@Snailster111]

First...

[@PawzBrownMTG]

This is such a great tune-up thank you guys I'm changing my deck cause of this upgrade