WHO'S THE BEST CASUAL TRIBAL COMMANDER - EDGAR - KAALIA - XYRIS - MUXUS, feat DRAGONSHIELD

This week we're joined by Chris from Dragonshield to play some casual commander!
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[@marcellusjordan5681]

The dialog about the number of vampires vs cast vampires, highlight 😂

[@frans95]

1:12 for those wanting to watch it again

[@calum1234100]

Happens every time when I play my Edgar deck! "Technically two vamps" ;)

[@gypsieking3280]

Spiritually, Tyler is always the player whose playstyle I connect with most.

[@Chromie-Homies]

Same, no matter the commander’s I end up routing for Tyler

[@ronburgundy5730]

Routing? I think you mean rooting

[@bigdon9999]

Dylan here

[@jadigennaro]

Way more of a Cam, in that I'm constantly saying, "Oooooh. I could've...oh well."

[@JbesAsrail1]

...Elaborate on that.

[@FecklessSpoon]

Hey guys, I had a cEDH event last night, and I used Cam's Jeska Ishai deck (with a few of my own tweaks). The deck was really fun to play, and I managed to get top 8!

[@Skywarp2099]

One thing I've learned about tribal decks, the more efficient tribes are INSANE. Goblins, Zombies, HUMANS (thanks to MID), Vampires (always), Wizards and even Merfolk can lead to some spectacular games.

[@kingfuzzy2]

I prefer the lesser played tribes like nightstalkers, licids, nagas, frogs, and leeches no one sees their synergies coming. One often played tribe I do play tho is dragons and they are beautiful

[@zoienjooy]

Whats is MID? Asking because i dont think human tribal is good

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@zoienjooy midnight hunt had a few insane selesnya commanders

[@Skywarp2099]

@@kingfuzzy2 Torens, Katilda, and the new Sigarda help do everything the human tribe wants to accomplish. I guess being able to do infinite combat damage in something other than Boros, or drawing your entire deck in another color besides blue, never occurred this guy. Also, the lifegain synergies and really nasty stax pieces are ALL primarily in these colors. How many tribes can say they're able to Aetherflux people by doing nothing other than entering play and smashing people (no infinite combos required).

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@Skywarp2099 right on ( :

[@richardleary5522]

Chris plays a myriad landscape in untapped to cast muxus at 18:25, doesn't look like it mattered...

[@salehabdulhadi8493]

Tyler shouldn’t have died in that second game. When he cast Xyris the very next turn Chris used Skull clamp to draw two cards which should’ve given him 2 snake tokens. If I’m not mistaken when Dylan swung out at him he would’ve been able to block at least 6 more damage allowing him not to die to the one 3/4 attacker from Dylan a turn later. Big Xyris lover here wish to see more of it!! Edit: This is my personal High Power Xyris list with Primer if anyone is interested. www.moxfield.com/decks/uMq252_F4Um-uvNyVSFJUA

[@salehabdulhadi8493]

Unfortunately I was favorited by the channel but not anymore😢

[@aaronhallene6364]

The "BEGIN" is going to be etched into my nightmares.

[@Flip4Crypt]

Haven't even watched the video yet, just wanted to say you guys are easily my favorite mtg channel out there, If not my favorite channel overall, I love your guys energy and the commentary in game and Shit, it's a really nice format and I think the both of you bring it together perfectly Thank you for all of the work you do for all of us to enjoy!

[@DylanCEdh]

When I saw Edgar was in the vid I thought it’d be Kaalia of the Vast. It’s nice to see something new

[@BuleGamer96]

Tribal is super funny, its one of my fav things of casual edh. Muxus was quite inspirating. Edgar is devastating 😂

[@geoffreygarfein9169]

Thank you all for reminding all of us, and by us I mean me, that Commander is fun. These games were great! On a side note: Could you all podcast about the difference between CEDH/High Powered/EDH? There has been some real debate about this and I feel, as the vanguards of the CEDH format, I think you all are the correct folks to explain this. Thanks my bois!

[@Cordonlee0703]

Still waiting on this video!

[@Death_by_Tech]

thank you for including a primer in the vampire deck! haven’t looked at the others yet

[@darbymckilkannoncaid3279]

1:18 to 1:24 is peak editing, hilarious stuff

[@kstandish42]

You can tell right off the bat how excited Dylan was to play Edgar haha Also, I wonder if Dylan is running Bloodvial Purveyor which is a house in Edgar.

[@aklepatzky]

Its actually trash. Best Edgar lists are low to the ground and very aggro

[@jondavidenns]

I’ve been watching this channel for a year now? This is the first time I’ve read the comments. This is easily my favorite MTG channel. The energy and joy you all bring to the game is a delight. Thank you for doing this. Casual, competitive, doesn’t matter. If any of you PTW guys are on Kauai ever, hmu. Would love to cruise.

[@MeIsAPumpkin]

I really enjoyed this, was nice to see you all show off some casual decks; excited to see more cEDH though!

[@GIANTCADET]

I have a muxus deck that I love very much, it used to be a wort, boggart auntie deck (my first edh deck). I know krenko gets most of the love for the mono red goblin tribal, but I hope this makes people look at muxus a little more. He won’t go as wide, but he’ll get the bigger players out and most times krenko will show up anyways. It’s always fun to roll the dice.

[@TripsAhoy]

That last turn with muxis was amazing!

[@RubertoPaulo]

Really enjoyed this episode! You guys piloting casual decks is awesome.

[@ljlk8583]

I love this edgar list!! Edgar was my first ever commander deck since I've always loved mtg vampires, but since I was just getting into magic at the time, I really didn't know how to make it good. For a while, I tried updating my edgar deck as I learned more about magic, but still didn't know how to make a good edgar deck. Recently, I wanted to revamp the deck, and came back to this episode for inspiration! I absolutely love Dylan's edgar deck and love the new edgar deck that I made.

[@xtigerbotjoe]

Really enjoyed these games! I like how you all approach these games the same as you do when playing cEDH. Same vibe and fun!

[@vitorroberto8694]

To me, it's really funny as even your 'casual' games are the best gameplay I see here on youtube, from the other CEDH channels and even comparing to the 'cinematic experience' of gameknights. I believe that this is due to you guys being REALLY skillful at Magic, somethimg that I personally strive to be, in CEDH, yes, but also in the more 'casual/noncombo/combat damage' side of commander, that's also cool! Would love to see more of these gameplays from you!

[@Cal-fr9mw]

I love it when y’all make games like this for the channel

[@Highwang]

God, If I got to play my Grismold deck in this pod I'd be foaming at the mouth in hype. So many tokens.

[@moxavenger]

Enjoyed the games very much. Love the speedy editing style and scary **begin** scream!

[@aishiw7434]

I've been telling myself this for months now but I love every single deck Tyler plays on this channel!

[@kzulonas]

You make the most entertaining casual content on the internet imo

[@musashibriem1352]

Love the forray into casual while it still feeling very much like a normal PTW episode

[@supersam5802]

you can put a fitter bedsheet around a window frame to make a cheap light defuser when glare is an issue, just by a cheap white twin size

[@Sucrose_Mother]

What a really good tribal episode. So satisfying to see them all working.

[@ivernedit4132]

Your “begins” are the highlight of my day

[@orsettomorbido]

12:15 LMAO, i loved this editing.

[@camerondavis7668]

I would love to see some highly optomized tribal games in the future with some of the top tribes out right now. Maybe like BR Grenzo vs Marywn vs The first sliver vs Edgar or a zombie tribal, maybe merfolk.

[@kingfuzzy2]

I'd like to see tribes with lesser support like licids or mono u nagas personally.

[@camerondavis7668]

@@kingfuzzy2 while the idea sounds fun, it would be a headache to get a cohesive deck with such a small card pool.

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@camerondavis7668 it is fun and it isn't hard to build I know because I've built a few of them.

[@jannamcjanna6802]

What a fun game. Loved seeing the creatures flooding the board.

[@casperpedersen223]

Love the attitude you guys have while playing at any power level.

[@Rezzik]

Really good matchups, great episode

[@christopherpho9424]

Dylan making those Crimson Vow set boosters do work.

[@TripsAhoy]

Impact tremors that early in the game was nice!

[@Cuervoazulgrana.]

One of the BEST episode of the Channel keep this edh High level tribal wars please

[@PhantomRXY]

This was so fun to watch I dint know tribal snakes existed

[@StackedEDH]

"You can call cards whatever you want." Go off, king.

[@jimbomctimbo1610]

I love the idea of high power tribes even though they are not cedh the limitations breed creativity. I've been doing an ad Naus glissa tribal creature based combo with phyrexian altar and another with Liliana untouched and shambling ghast been fun.

[@lordkeyblade1936]

I watched this while waiting for it to be time for me to go to my new job really help me calm down since I was super nervous thanks

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

This made my day, I’m glad we could help! Hope it went well!

[@GeorgBauer]

This was four ways of awesome. Glad the Muxman took the second game.

[@joshuajinsu2559]

Love your vids guys. But how did Chris play myriad landscape as his land for turn untapped and then played muxus?

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

Loved it, also not Surprised at how it Ended...but yeah good times

[@frankdetank9126]

Love seeing it! Now consider doing a best enchantress deck in cEDH video? Thanks!

[@Audric66]

That was a fun episode. Enjoyed it greatly. :D

[@quantumlandbooks4005]

Those are such good games. Love it. Though I kinda wish you had tried to make merfolk work in this setup.

[@edwardcastro4276]

How do yall distinguish between cEDH and high power casual? Is there any card quality or budgetary limits when you guys play casual?

[@didupaytheone2678]

First game love the my big green boy..that's alot of damage..big gg there ..love to see it ..

[@Rulox665]

I really loved this style of gameplay

[@christerjhonpascual3218]

Very nice games! Cant' wait to see Edgar Markov in the competitive scene.

[@BobbyBev95]

I love all of your content but I think some more of this more casual gameplay would be awesome. These games were great

[@johnayala771]

I’m convinced it’s not even about cedh anymore. Eventually we will see into god and satans eyes at once in an intro.

[@robertburns22]

Awesome video! more casual games with Players that want to win :D!

[@thebookscollective8543]

This was a super fun vid to watch 🎉

[@Starkipraggy]

18:20 hol up, myriad landscape ETBs tapped!

[@SSolemn]

I need more faeries for a good tribal deck, right now it is very difficult to make it work as tribal. Good games, I really enjoyed this video.

[@jakeschwartz4580]

Nice seeing good, strong EDH that isn't cEDH. Great episode!

[@styfen]

As you guys are branching out a bit, any chance of seeing some Conquest occasionally? I'd love to see what y'all do with the differing format rules/restrictions/bans

[@xeli748]

Good video, hope to see some under represented tribes (golems, ooze, etc.) the next time :)

[@yulyeon]

What deck boxes do you guys use in Cam’s background?

[@vaporeon344]

18:22 Myriad Landscape should enter tapped, right?

[@bulbasaurappreciator]

The Patreon names are the end are getting funnier and funnier

[@jakobleurs]

Shouldn't Myriad Landscape at 18:21 enter the battlefield tapped?

[@ElderAlchemists]

Any of you guys ever consider playing inalla? Would love to see that

[@TBeanAndTheSundanceQ]

Would Muxux have reentered the battlefield during the Conjurer's Closet trigger? The 'Return to battlefield' trigger for the Lighning Crafter is a trigger that wouldn't resolve until after the closet.

[@ziege5165]

Sad to see no Rat tribal deck, would love to see one of you guys brew up a Marrow Gnawer list

[@orsettomorbido]

I see last game's victory as Tyler being kind of avenged by Chris XD

[@mthlay15]

Can yall imagine how wild it would be to have 30k people watching yall play these games in real life? You guys are famous. Hahah Thanks for the great content

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I can’t even really fathom how many people 30,000 people is. It’s bonkers

[@ingolf82]

I assume you play that white seedborn muse from the new set in Edgar right? It is so good with captivating vampire

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

That’s not a vampire

[@NINtastisch]

great games, lots of fun watching! but That was not snake tribal. 2 cards that actaully are snakes (Steve and Xyris) 0 cards that care about snakes. imo that's "cheating" on the theme of the game :|

[@jeremyhaupert7513]

18:25 Myriad landscape should’ve come in tapped. Would be able to cast his commander that turn… from one yr in the future.

[@Fogshaper]

that begin was impressive

[@RandomCommenter955]

The volume is very off between the scenes. It would help increase video quality a ton to level out the volume as it's extremely quiet when it goes to face to camera scenes.

[@Kallastin]

It is always nice to see a casual game knowing Tyler's quote "As the resident casual player." I had a question anyone can answer. Which in your opinion is the best Commander for Merfolk tribal?

[@nicolafierro1]

kumena

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

Chulane

[@mtgstrategy1391]

I love xyris. Thats actually my pod commander for my cedh deck and man is jt a fun backup plan.

[@M_orcan]

Great content as always, Chris could have done with de-essing tho, that sibilance from his mic is piercing

[@trash_panda_commander]

I love my First Sliver deck, very fun and can go nuts, but is that casual?

[@BigHoar13]

2nd game felt kinda bad with Tyler feeling hated out but Xyris just has a tendency to win out of nowhere. Chris wasn’t attacked much but he also wasn’t much of a threat most of the time.

[@BigHoar13]

@Ren Stimpy he had nothing going at that moment. Tyler drew Chris SO many cards to help him out, then the windfall for 10 I think gave him the game.

[@camerondavis7668]

Xyris being tribal is also kind of a stretch.

[@pikapika4208]

@@camerondavis7668 Yeah, "Hello, fellow tribal decks"

[@kirbbar2258]

Anyone know the song at 9:48? Trying to find it to add to a D&D playlist

[@amarauk9687]

"eminence is a perfectly balanced mechanic, and fun to play against" Nope... not even Sun Tzu said that

[@SuperElfhunter]

Myriad Landscape enters the battlefield tapped! I think that missplay would have changed the outcome.

[@ManTheMaker]

Great games, though I'm a bit disappointed that the Xylis deck was just a Xylis deck and not a tribal one.

[@MrAsinella]

These casual matches were amazing! Do you plan to do more `casual' content? If so, we will ever see a Rin and Seri, Inseparable deck?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Possibly!

[@kaijukraken]

I'm a sucker for art, I have a mighty need of The Great Wave off Kanagawa playmat

[@zachpenrod8109]

Well I need to add my impact tremor to my xyris deck now. Idk how I didn’t think about it

[@PhoenixRNH]

Also Purphoros

[@toaster4598]

Play to win casual. Tyler on Xyris. You love to see it

[@ricardopena7875]

i wanted a xyris list so bad for so long xD

[@connorl0204]

With snoop and all the multi draw effects that happened (skullclamp and windfall), isnt the “play with your top revealed a state-based effect? And state based effects are only checked at any time a player could have priority right? So in the middle of a spell or ability resolving, no one has priority so you would only see the first card drawn since it was already revealed? I feel like im missing something, can someone explain where im wrong here?

[@PhoenixRNH]

I believe the change is more static and no matter what you do the top card will be revealed, even in between multi-draws

[@Capybara496]

First: it's not a state-based effect. The state-based effects are predefined in the rules, and abilities of cards cannot create new ones (if I'm counting right, there are 18 of them). Snoop has a static ability which alters the way the game is played, meaning it can impact events that occur in the middle of a spell's resolution. Second: Rule 121.2 says "Cards may only be drawn one at a time. If a player is instructed to draw multiple cards, that player performs that many individual card draws." So, when you draw 10 cards with Snoop out, you draw the first card (which was already revealed), reveal the second, draw the second, reveal the third, etc.

[@connorl0204]

@@PhoenixRNH arent static abilities checked at the same time as state based effects? Right before a player is given priority? The same reason you cant sacrifice a dork to some other effect before elesh kills it (after elesh resolves)?

[@connorl0204]

I promise im not trying to be difficult, im trying to be sure i have a better understanding of how the cards interact so i can use them better and more correctly.

[@PhoenixRNH]

@@connorl0204 see above ^ it is neither a state based effect or a static ability in the way you're thinking of it, it doesn't cause a trigger, it simply changes the way your library works

[@agoogleuser1085]

Id say that was fringe competitive. Still nice to see tribal. The power level these days even in "casual" is pretty insane.

[@elias833]

18:20 myriad landscape enters tapped

[@astuteanansi4935]

Does just having Xyris as a commander qualify Tyler's deck as snake tribal? I didn't really see any Snake synergies, just the usual Xyris wheelin' and dealin' shenanigans. Not that snakes *have* a lot of synergies, but still

[@307butters]

Why zenith seeker over Kaalia of the vast?

[@johnblake255]

Question for Dylan. Edgar is my favorite commander also and everyone I know says he can only be played in CEDH as a Razaketh combo deck whereas I think there could be a stax version of Edgar that is CEDH viable especially being in Mardu colors. Thoughts?

[@MasterDecoy1W]

What are you getting out of Edgar as the General? Najeela has better aggro, Winota has better stax synergy, Kaalia has more explosive potential and synergy with cEDH lines. Even Marchesa seems like a superior choice to synergize with stax creatures.

[@clrl936]

What would be the point of Edgar? He need vampires to do anything and there arent any Staxy vampires out there to make a stax deck. If you are going to just use generic stax pieces, than any other mardu commander would do the same thing if not better

[@johnblake255]

@@clrl936 that’s not entirely true. Vampires are very good at being aristocrats for the relic warder combo, and very good at using the black stax pieces in grave pact effects while Edgar provides the free tokens to sacrifice to grave pact effects and keep the board locked out of creatures. The meta, least near me, has really become more creature centric lately and grave pact effects have become a lot more potent as a result.

[@johnblake255]

@@MasterDecoy1W right so, your statement is 100% true. Edgar, in my opinion as well, just isn’t as good as other commanders in that color combination. The point has more to do with, if you did want to play in CEDH, how would you play him since your statement can just as easily be applied to him as a commander in a combo based variant as well.

[@Slack-3R]

At 18:25, Myraid landscape should enter tapped. Unless I missed something

[@brianknowles3980]

“Conspicious.” Alexa, add to dictionary. 😂

[@DaxVerus]

Remember when the 'begin' was intelligible and coherent? Pepperidge farm remembers.

[@Mavczers]

I was looking at bottom right and was wondering why mother named him Xyris and why is he playing Tylers tribal.