Edgar Markov vs Karador vs Kess vs Marrow Gnawer | CEDH Gameplay

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[@arandomday3530]

The Virgin Jace/Consultation combo vs the chad Grindstone/Painter’s Servant combo

[@znachwd2015]

I loved how Adam was swapping faces on the playing cards. Quality easter egg.

[@Magnivore519]

I'm glad someone noticed! ~Adam, PwP

[@swirls5801]

also ryan, i love that flashing skull thing

[@bradenskaggs5350]

Ryan: Alright everyone, we're gonna be doing a Halloween special next episode. Deck ideas? Zack: Halloween? Reanimator Kess sounds good Adam: Kess seems too meta. Ill go Karador Reanimator instead Ryan: I like more spice in my life. Let's go Edgar Markov Reanimator Zack: So Will, what are you gonna play? Will: I like ratz Seriously though, cool Halloween episode guys. Also, that Leonin Relic Warleader looks like a homemade WGD combo. Pretty cool combo

[@olafthemoose9413]

Just the generic razacats combo

[@kingginger3335]

Didnt realize Angel's Grace can stop a Jace/Oracle trigger. Nice

[@Naozwc]

I won a whole bunch of games in 1v1 cedh (I have to play 1v1 because in my playgroup are not consistently enough cedh decks to play multi-player cedh)

[@kingginger3335]

@@Naozwc that just gave me a a sweet idea. We should start a new Commander format. 1v1 with 60 card decks and you start at 30 life. Its not Brawl because you can't use planeswalkers as commanders.

[@luke2261]

Oracle means they lose instead of just having to draw some other way.

[@arriasl3306]

@@kingginger3335 you know it's a known format in France, so much that we have to specify when we talk about "edh" if it is 1v1 or 4 players You can find the banlist and ruling on www.duelcommander.com At first it was 30hp but control deck were dominant so we are now at 20hp. The banlist is made by a French rule committee and sometimes is questionable. Have fun with it

[@AstridCeleste96]

@@arriasl3306 What a read for that ban list. I'd sooner ban Consultation than Thassa's Oracle, for instance, and then the extra turn spells that hit the graveyard get banned (except Walk the Aeons). How is Red nerf worthy with Fireblast and Eidolon of the Great Revel but so is Field of the Dead and such at the same time? Interesting.

[@mella4376]

Aw this was lovely. Rooting for the rattos all the way of course.

[@samzwick-lavinsky2498]

Kess: reanimates creatures Karador: summons creatures from the dead

[@JonathanHecht]

i am astounded that the marrow gnawer deck managed to score a win

[@briantheboss6124]

It’s my birthday today, and 3 games in one video is a great birthday present indeed!

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Happy Birthday!

[@nharviala]

Mine was two days ago, an awesome delayed present! Thanks for being an awesome channel!

[@derekmccoy2799]

I loved that painter's servant and grindstone combo. Never thought I'd see it at a cedh table.

[@RagnarokSol]

Cedh, Oh hey Marrow gnar, cute, "sees grindstone and servant combo" My mind: WTF Also my mind: "seeing rat colony with a sword, aww but bloody terrifying

[@maku175]

Honestly was a huge fan of the animation for each commander in the beginning! I honestly would love to see more of that!

[@Starcraftgamer97]

Best way to imagine Rat Colony with a sword is by picturing the Rats from Plague Tale: Innocence. Especially when they spin around in a tornado towards the player character, Amicia.

[@prashrad2382]

Hearing Ryan's voice narrate whenever Will did something was such a treat. Definitely some good new tricks for the cEDH meta now

[@adambandguy1173]

You guys really stepped up your animations! Love it.

[@RedRamDRA]

First time I see Painter's Servant + Grindstone combo - looks fun.

[@orsettomorbido]

The sad skull after the counter HAHAHAHAHA

[@CharlotteMimic]

The flashing skull was hilarious! . . . I can't believe the rat sword painter's servant deck won xD

[@brentgould958]

Thanks for the spoila

[@CharlotteMimic]

@@brentgould958 whoops didn't even think about that

[@vader1137]

nice message at the end, I'm certain that there must be more deck ideas for cEDH!

[@swirls5801]

rats deck really snuck out grindstone/painter's servant

[@Deviated88]

Really like that Marrow-Gnawer deck!

[@matthiesbrouwer6604]

Wow guys, I've been a fan of the channel ever since your first upload and the new production quality on this episode really adds to the experience. Loved the new animated commanders. You guys are by far the best CEDH channel on KZbin. Keep it up!!

[@koelkast9]

The spooky skull got me

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Rattled.

[@hectormorales4090]

Oh my, one of my favorite vids so far... on theme, good phased, unexpected... LOVE IT!

[@SamuelKacerik]

Great episode. I especially liked the fact that there was not that much blue at the table.

[@istarilight]

Wished to see a Jeleva build going insane on everyone's library, but that rat build sure made my day ! Nice games folks, as always !

[@apock2474]

THAT INTRO!!!

[@chaseshadows566]

I loved this video. It was great seeing all these spooky decks play together.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Much spoopy!

[@doggosuchwow1593]

Muddstah!!!! XD Your videos are also awesome!!!

[@orsettomorbido]

Force of Vigor should have been cast during Ryan's upkeep, since there is no "end turn" if a player loses. Well, these were three cool games! The spookyness was appreciated!

[@WhiteWizard42]

When someone dies during their own turn, I believe it actually moves to the Ending Phase (end step and cleanup) of the turn before going on to the next player's turn. it's a *spooky ghost turn* but it still happens.

[@miscellaneousgoblin910]

Awesome animations! Awesome theme! Awesome gameplay! Great job as always.

[@jfb-]

I was going to ask why Zack didn't play an instant speed reanimate effect from his yard on his Thassa's Oracle in his upkeep on game 3, but then I remembered the Dranith Magistrate

[@GamingBear_Q_E_D]

Fun episode, thanks gang :)

[@canadianhighlanderbremen7717]

I love this episode so damn much! Best halloween special this year, period.

[@lunaralymphea]

I love all the ways he said rat with a sword ^.^

[@raiynen]

Nice to see games that don't end by milling. rat with a sword? Master Splinter says hi.

[@addambarcelos]

Painter's servant and grindstone combo, Nice!

[@behemoth1158]

real missed opportunity to not put spooky scary skeletons for at least a bit. great vid tho

[@danielkuttel7867]

Hmmm the card combo Grindstone with Painters Servant is pretty sneaky. Nice one :o)

[@ComedIanMTG]

That opening was tight!

[@cmdrsausage]

Your going first game’s are actually the best, please never change 🤣

[@viniekoza]

So many games! What a Halloween gift!

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

Could have played Gitrog. Learning that combo gave me nightmares.

[@DudePossum]

At 18:00 Ryan's life total should have been 14 instead of 15. Losing half (rounded up) means losing the larger half of your life total.

[@joshuabundy4676]

I loved this episode. It was so cool.

[@orsettomorbido]

Ohh, the changing cards!

[@necrofeo]

animated kess looks dope tho

[@luuk7614]

Great work on the intro guys!

[@JacketedRock717]

Awesome video, but it was confusing at times with the kings on adam's side of the battlefield, especially when ryan used the ace card for his vampire token

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

Spoilers: When the games started, I thought to myself "No way the Rat Colony deck can win against these other CEDH decks." I shouldn't have underestimated them.

[@themadstudent]

Sure, but it certainly wasn't the rats that did most of the heavy lifting. It was the casual 2 card combo, tutored for, that got most of the kills.

[@Red_Male]

rats we're rats we're the rats we creep a night we stalk at night, we're the rats

[@IamALLin1989]

great episode, thanks!

[@TBeanAndTheSundanceQ]

Razaketh win was pretty cool. @18:00 Ryan should have gone down to 14 rather than 15. Half of 29 rounded up is 15 life he should have lost.

[@---vd9qd]

Loved that intro.

[@StackedEDH]

I love watching RATS get there!

[@Pendergast891]

finally some karador action!

[@criscofields7242]

Very fun games and a joy to watch!

[@danwilson9522]

Kinda surprised Edgar didn't target someone else with that Peer into the Abyss

[@tiagocordeiro2457]

Loved the efects and episode, but really sad for not see a reaper king deck

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

We considered it. But unfortunately we only had 4 spots.

[@BillyC500]

Great special!

[@themantyf1116]

Will was the one with a more original and consistent theme, to be honest.

[@angrytomasz]

How did enlightened tutor get cast when no non-creature spells were allowed during Zack's turn?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Ranger-Captain of Eos doesn't stop its controller from casting them, only the opponents.

[@angrytomasz]

@@DarkEinherjar I see. My bad.

[@necrocreature9117]

oooh spooky opening, I like

[@StormKyoshi]

Awesome video!!!

[@daniescc9622]

This channel is great!

[@sea81793]

5:26 I found the rule on demonic consultation. I've sorted my confusion.

[@edwardphillips7066]

Awesome playmats I would like to know where to get play mats

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

A link is in the description

[@P3RDT0]

That wasn't Edgar Markov, it's Vigo The Carpathian!

[@justinproco8042]

10/10 music

[@markwilliams6008]

Lots of cool interaction no Oracle

[@Fromaginator]

That was hella rad

[@JordanJansen101]

Love this 👍🏻

[@creew509]

Hell yeah! Rat bois represent!

[@Vuurgeest]

Was the music partly inspired by the music for Diablo? Because I feel like I'm recognising small parts

[@aidanquiett668]

I recognized it from club penguin. Must be free use

[@mrporkgaming7226]

Loved this

[@koanos2448]

5:08 What was the Phyrexian Altar Infinite combo?

[@IronGriffon05]

This is what happens when only one player plays blue. You get in lots of games

[@willbegaming2455]

Good games guys keep the videos coming I would like my play group to make videos

[@ofekm1996]

Game 1, if Adam had protein hulk in his deck then he could have won, by casting natural order on his mana dork. Am I missing something?

[@some_hippies]

The Karador deck didn't seem to get anything done in any of the games, was it just bad luck? Sweet new intro, great games, go rats!

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yeah, bad luck.

[@Magnivore519]

I did have bad luck for sure. Spoilers! On the turn I cast Carrion Feeder into Trinisphere, I believe I could have won the next turn. I would have cast Natural Order to get Protean Hulk and proceed to do a line from there. Unfortunately the board got wiped before I could do that. ~Adam, PwP

[@some_hippies]

@@Magnivore519 ah what a bummer, as a (more casual) Karador pilot I was hoping you'd get there!

[@javier6283]

Lets go Mill!!

[@kingginger3335]

Very nice

[@jakepetropoulos1074]

Will there be another round of the playmats/sleeves or are they put of stock forever?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Not sure to be honest

[@jeanvictor4723]

MARROOOOOOW-GNAAAAAAAWER My pet deck black krenko

[@mikeolsen1676]

Does anyone know the song in the second game? It kinda slaps.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Sad that Karador didnt win once. :'(

[@hambone5999]

You guys should do plainchace CEDH

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

We have! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6eqZqF9pppsq6M

[@Lordsofplural]

spoopy

[@kyojitakenouchi9706]

2 things about game 1: If you can't win the game because of angels grace, won't you lose the game? Or will you try to win but don't? Did everyone forget that trinisphere was in play during the last turn?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It's because he never tries to draw a card. the draw is replaced with jace's effect, which can't happen so nothing happens instead. "draw a card" becomes "win the game". Win the game can't happen, so nothing happens. He could've just cracked Fiery Islet on top of Silence and still win, so we let it go.

[@Lasor4]

Two questions: 1) In game 2, why couldn't the Edgar Markov player directly go for the 3 cards they needed? 2) What was with the king playing cards??? I am very confused 😅

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It has to do with available mana. Needing the ability to have enough mana to fuel Songs of the Damned was the original reason he went for them.

[@Lasor4]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Rewatched it and I see that I completely missed that! Thank you :)

[@ethanclaffy9585]

I thought painters servant was banned in commander?

[@omegacreate]

It has been unbanned since last summer. Iona was banned in its place

[@LoboGuarah]

No Orzhov commander? Oh ok...

[@erayhaselton]

Shouldn't Ryan have just lost when peer into the abyss resolved?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

You draw half of the cards in your library. Since his library had no cards in it, half of 0 is 0, so he drew no cards.

[@thoptertoken514]

Doesn't painters servant stop the red Elemental blast from working?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Painter's servant makes all cards the chosen color in addition. It appends, not replaces.

[@thoptertoken514]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG ty 👍

[@pefp2008]

Shouldn't angel's grace only let you to not lose? Why the others were saved? And in the 3rd match abyss should have killed him, as he had to draw cards equal to half his life after grindstone milled him?

[@kingl4789]

Jace makes you win, not your opponents lose, and angel’s grace prevents winning

[@Someblondeman]

So clarification on Angel's Grace and Jace, since the replacement effect of Angels Grace says your opponents cannot win and you still draw from an empty library with Jace's effect basically nullified would you not then lose?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It's because he never tries to draw a card. the draw is replaced with jace's effect, which can't happen so nothing happens instead. "draw a card" becomes "win the game". Win the game can't happen, so nothing happens.

[@Someblondeman]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG well that's not entirely true, drawing a card leads to winning the game, you still attempt to draw the card. If you can't draw the card and you can't win, then you lose.

[@Someblondeman]

And don't get me wrong I understand that is the ruling on it, I just disagree with how that is ruled

[@mikehalloran93]

Jace's replacement effect is still valid to put on the stack, it just doesn't win the game when it resolves. It's like targeting an indestructible creature with Beast Within. And since the replacement effect is being put on the stack, the draw effect doesn't happen.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

​@@Someblondeman I verified this with a judge. This is how the interaction works.

[@Tuskasami]

RATS

[@Purgar316]

Can someone explain why everyone plays dark confidant over phyrexian arena? It's 1 extra black and costs you half as much life if not less, leaving more life for ad nauseam and doesn't give your opponents information

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Too expensive. It also reveals the card instead of draws it, which gets around Hullbreacher effects. It's also a creature that can connect with things like tymna, and be sacc'd to things like Culling The Weak.

[@Purgar316]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG TY, but I disagree with the expense. Didn't think about hullbreacher effects though. And bodies are always good but easier to remove so I always viewed that one as a double edged blade but I do admit I'm basically a newborn in the competitive scene. Cheers again for answering

[@lasse3469]

Why do you always say ryan instead of me or I? :)

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

To avoid confusion of the game. It's easier to follow names instead of pronouns when determining who is doing what.

[@lasse3469]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG makes sense thank you keep up the awesome work :D

[@shampp5411]

Reanimation Kess that wins with a standard draw/win combo.. is that a meta joke or did he not have enough time to make a themed deck or something?

[@PhoenixRNH]

It's the most efficient dimir win con, just like LRW and AD in Ryan's deck, what did you expect in a cEDH match?

[@shampp5411]

​@@PhoenixRNH I completely expected it in a cEDH match, but I also expected reanimation in a reanimate deck. Just seems like they could have made it a regular video and said something like "so and so is playing vampires cause hes feeling spooky" and not tried to slap themes on tightly restricted decks.

[@TheRealAudioDidact]

Who is watching a Jace win and thinking "Wow! I didn't expect that?" So boring.