Edgun Leshiy 2 - Questions Answered

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[@gd6938]

Steve Allan’s L2 LIST . . . 1. Make a point to deliberately not mention that the authorised EDgun UK dealer is Graham Denney. 2. Recommend it’s better pay extra to buy abroad. 3. Start by saying the sub-12 won’t work unless it’s had the “right work done by the right people,” then repeat all the inherited misleading errors of how NOT to tune the Leshiy 2 for best performance, accuracy and shot count. My dear Steve, we met at last years Northern Shooting Show where I introduced you to my boss Eduard Gafarov . . . and I thought you was likeable chap and a genuine bloke. It’s not my intention to embarrass you, Steve, however, there are so many red-herrings and technological contradictions in your enthused review, it would take me some hours to formulate an antithesis of your well-meaning attempt to please your viewers. I say ‘well-meaning’ Steve, because, clearly you show Good Will to the EDgun brand, which of course, I welcome. And you go out of your way to pile praise upon praise for your favoured dealer abroad, which again is your rightful prerogative, and I’m sure deservedly. You will forgive me then if I choose to not invest my time to afford you the education - point by point - to more properly correct your misguided review, as you have equally gone out of your way to ‘blank’ me as the EDgun UK dealer. And I’m sorry to say, Steve, you deliberately omitted to include me on your LIST even after our recent correspondence that politely reminded you of my official position. Whether or not you chose to blank me out of your LIST because I had the audacity to invite you to contact me for a free consultation on how to better understand the technological peculiarities of the Leshiy 2, or simply out of sheer bloody-minded spite, I guess is a mute point now that you’ll join the ranks of the know-alls and never be the wiser. For up-to-date info on the EDgun Leshiy 2 phenomenon. Viewers are invited to visit EDgun UK's recently updated FB post: 'The method, don't you see . . . is unsound.'

[@airgunology]

I need to reply to this properly 1. You did not introduce me to Ed, I had him on my list to interview and I seeked him out. You were just there, so stop biging yourself u, I barely remember you. You may have tried to act as a chaperon, but trust me it was not needed. 2. I give a link to people where there can buy a rifle, that is up to me. Also there were multiple disclaimers and warning on the video. Stop complaining because you were not invited to the cool kids party. It was your fault for being an ass on Airgunology and accusing me of many things. See point 7. I would never recommend someone / dealer who is so rude to their potential customers. 3. The right work was done in my opinion by my dealer to get to sub 12 and I and many others are happy. 4. I have no obligation to mention you, Are you my mentor, employee or mother ? 5. When I wanted a L2, I searched around, googled and Edgun Spain came up. At the time I did not know it was Spain and I pinged an email. They replied courtesy and they got my money. They even suggested I went to you, but after seeing your rants on FB, I decided to go with Spain 6. So you suggest the wrong things are done to the L2, but refuse to mention what they are, another rant an nothing to back it up to potential customers. I have tried finding the FB post you mention and can't find it. BTW, i know the changes you have done to the L2 and even congratulated your customers after this video was released. 7. You never contacted me with regards to a L2 as I went direct to Spain. See point 5. When you saw I had one, you were EXTREMELY RUDE and ACCUSED me of many things on MY FB GROUP and this was BEFORE I launched this video. Why would I even contemplate speaking to you after that. I should have banned you, but I took the wiser approach and ignored you and let you shoot yourself in the foot with your accusations and rants. The way you have treated your potential customers on FB, by telephone over the last few months is TRULY SHOCKING. All of these posts are for people to see on my FB group when you decided to publically get into a rant with a customer on Airgunology I have even had 4 potential customers asking me directly what the crap you were doing and them telling me that you had told them to basically f off and you did not want them as a customer. I must have missed that part of the "how to win customers" training course. Then there was the rant about the L2 being unsafe and needing a recall. This is from a Edgun dealer claiming his rifle was unsafe ? Yes you saw sense and deleted it eventually. The only unsafe thing about the L2 at the time, was you and your complete unprofessionalism I have basically kept out of the infighting between you, other Edgun dealers and your potential customers, but enough is enough and you have pissed me off therefore THIS POST IS PINNED FOR ALL TO SEE.

[@donpay1714]

Well said Steve you put that knob in his place

[@gm0hzi]

and this reply an example of why i will never have any dealing with edgun uk

[@harmoneedj]

Well said Steve. I've seen him on the fb page, the things he's said to his customers, coupled with his severely patronising tone are doing nothing but causing massive brand damage to EdGun. I really hope EdGun are watching how this guy is conducting himself.

[@dochomster1242]

When making a point about educating someone and using derogatory terms in that regard, it is always more effective and indeed treated as more valid if the correct language is used by the so called educator. It is ‘moot point’, not ‘mute point’. Your recourse to attack this reviewer in this manner, for doing what he is fully within his remit to do, leads me to believe it is better to take my business elsewhere and have no dealings with you, as is the right of any customer. Your actions should also be referred with reference to your continuing dealership rights.

[@mikewolfensberger9326]

Thanx mate! A good one to start the series off. Glad to see ya so excited. Keep it up! Cheers

[@airgunology]

Thanks

[@philiphodge4254]

Fantastic video.... what a piece of kit!!!!!!! Keep up the great reviews. 👍

[@airgunology]

Thanks

[@philipwells2793]

Glad to see you still super excited about it!

[@airgunology]

Oh yes :)

[@donpay1714]

Good video Steve cleared up a few things, cosmetically not keen on the bottle, looking forward to a full review

[@airgunology]

Glad it helped

[@wookieecantina]

You're just a humble chap. Those are terrific groups, especially for a new rifle! Thanks for sharing.

[@TheXone7]

These are absolutely the best reviews about EL2 on the whole internet! Thanks!!!

[@davidrouth9901]

Try the Hawke AirMax Compact scope - it’s awesome on my Leshiy and makes a real long gun!

[@arnoldtm31]

Keep up the good work Steve. I'm going to place an order from Francisco as well. Cheers.

[@airgunology]

Excellent, I suspect he will be getting a few orders.

[@ptescreen18]

Thanks a lot we’ve been waiting for a video like this for a long time thanks for your hard work can’t wait for the next videos, is that the .35ltr bottle ?

[@airgunology]

My pleasure, more to come as I get used to the rifle.

[@ptescreen18]

Steve Allan what size bottle mate ?

[@airgunology]

@@ptescreen18 300cc

[@ahmedelzahed3099]

Thank you for the wonderful explanation.. Is it prone to stops and malfunctions like semi-automatic rifles

[@christopherworthington7000]

Former US Army Sniper...Outstanding groupings at 30 meters😊

[@recipio6561]

Looking forward to seeing you shoot it. Will the lower regulator pressure still power the magazine auto rotate to give rapid repeat shots. ?

[@airgunology]

Coming soon and yes no problems

[@MrRossi78]

Nice video Steve. Good looking rifle that !! looking forward to seeing how it performs in the future once you work out the pellets. How was the scope in your test?

[@airgunology]

Scope was excellent, playing with a few prototypes and watch this space for more on them

[@69sugeng]

Nice Video Sir... , how about multi cal issue? Heard some issues change the cal from. 177 to bigger cal will not working properly.

[@airgunology]

.22 takes less air than a .177 for same power. Therefore if you are swapping barrels, you will need to change the regulator (easy to do) to get the correct power. Important if you are legally limited on power like uk sub 12ftlb laws.

[@clinteastwood3164]

Hi Steve i have a question about the hinge pins do you have any movement in the pins when the rifle is open and closed cheers for any help ATB Phil

[@rbkhaimeichho5042]

When will it come to India,, I wanna buy long moderator one

[@tonymorg1]

Top review Really want one really can’t afford one . Or can I 😜

[@POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser]

Even though steyr called their hunting 5 SA semi auto,they did win a battle in court for the self indexing rifle,hence..everyone is doing a catch up.I doubt if they will be banned,unless some idiot turns one into a rim fire or centre fire.keep up the good work ste

[@airgunology]

Yeah, more will follow as long as they are responsible.

[@airgunsniper-elite7385]

@@airgunology I'm guessing if any other manufacturer do it, it could be one of the Turkish airgun manufacturers. One because they already make semi and full auto fed through the barrel, and two if they get around the law with self indexing magazine fed rifles, then they will be able to hopefully produce one for the UK market and at a price most can afford. Love the Edgun, but well out of my price range, like the Steyar models, so hopefully a budget self indexing one wont be to long coming. Keep up the good work Steve.

[@joshturner9766]

nice review, i dont listen to much to people saying grps are bad ect... i got told my puncher breaker was a crap group and i kill field mice at 30m and rats at 40m on my youtube so its just personal skill

[@gordon238]

Hi Steve, does the gun still lock closed with the smaller plenum and the carbon bottle? Also does your puck have a 2.8mm hole, my puck hole is smaller and the gun is underpowered. Would love to see video on regulator before I tackle it.

[@airgunology]

Yes locks close ok. Mine hole for a 350mm 177 is 2.3mm.

[@gordon238]

@@airgunology Thanks mate, I'm also running 177 so looks like I'll be enlarging hole to 2.3mm.

[@charleswhalen7332]

Excellent videos, Steve, great info! I too would love to see a video on the regulator, specifically how I can check what it’s set at, e.g. 130 bar, 95 bar, etc. Thanks and keep up the great work on these Leshiy 2 educational videos, which I’m learning a lot from.

[@charleswhalen7332]

Another video request, Steve - if you could do a tutorial video on how to adjust the valve opening timing, once you figure that out. Thanks!

[@richardwaddams6598]

Looks a great fun rifel, a good option for light weight sporting rifle competitions, I presume the delivery is several months?

[@airgunology]

Depends on where you get it from. Check the link in the video description. You are probably looking at December delivery from Spain now.

[@richardwaddams6598]

@@airgunology that’s better than I was thinking, think I’ll wait till after Christmas as see how you’re getting on with it, looks fantastic, I managed to try one at vector air, feels a real quality item. Looking forward to the full review

[@hunterx2210]

Hi Allan, how far the shoot from the gun can be heard? for both Suppressor and non suppressor case.

[@brentconnock2513]

With the Anericans currently being sticky with everything gun related, SPAIN is the way to go. The Service from Edgun Spain is very good!

[@patriciacristobal6977]

Did you get your favorite pellet for the Leshiy? Tell us your opinion. Many thx.

[@newsnowminnesota817]

If my gun is set at 25 yards and I have a target 300 should I aim 2 to 3 above it? I have an asshole from hell that cost Me $5000 3 years ago so I want to make him buy a new roof from 300 out. Cheap as possible.

[@jerrymclaren6663]

Where and how can I can get the Leshiy 2 I live in Ontario Canada

[@charleswhalen7332]

Question for you, Steve: The “Technical data” on page 7 of the Leshiy 2 manual lists the “Rail incline” as 0.5, but it doesn’t state what the unit of measurement is, whether it’s degrees or mm (as in a 0.5 degree angle from horizontal, or alternatively a 0.5mm vertical drop measured over the 180mm length of the rail). Do you happen to know? If the rail incline is 0.5 degrees, that would make it a 31.4 MOA rail. If the rail incline is 0.5mm, that would make it a 10 MOA rail. I asked Francisco, but he wasn’t sure.

[@airgunology]

I am not sure either

[@lastsamuraione9565]

I have problem about valve leshiy2..please your video to repaird.. Thank u

[@Danny-outside]

What are your views on pp700 I like to know the rules about turning up 11.5 fpe of when you put the stock on it.

[@SBBoy68]

Hi forgive my ignorance, new to air rifles. Just got my Leshiy2 in the last couple of days. Filled the pressure up to about 200bar. Used it a bit had around 100bar left, put it down when I came back a few hours later the reservoir was empty is this normal? I don’t know doesn’t seem right to me. But what do I know. Thank you.

[@airgunology]

no not right, you have a leak

[@SBBoy68]

Thank you

[@bondy3044]

How long is it 'folded'?

[@MrRockstar1968]

I'm assuming that when you had the rifle shipped from Spain that it was sent to a local rifle dealer for you to collect it from and not sent directly to your home?

[@Dmit747]

what is the optic you are running on this setup?

[@hardworkhardplay]

What scope is that?

[@clyde305]

Quel est la marque de la lunette svp ?

[@heathhalfhill6867]

Is it that hard to get a FAC in your country? I’m in the USA and was thinking about the firing system on the Ed Gun in comparison to my LCS SK-19 and thinking mine would be near impossible to make in a sub 12 for the UK market. I am a 3rd Gen gunsmith- NOT!!! an airgun smith, but I am learning...I could easily be wrong, but if possible, would also be legal in the UK if it were sub 12 rifle. I would think a FAC is as easy to get as a carry permit is here. Pass a background check, pay your 20$ and away you go. Your good for 5 years. Yes...I have watched you video with Tony from Daystate talking about this subject, and UK laws but...I’m sorry if I missed it...is it really that difficult to get an FAC in the UK?

[@airgunology]

It is not as easy as USA where firearms are normal life. Here you have to have a reason, be vetted and visited by the police and if you are lucky, you can get a FAC.

[@heathhalfhill6867]

@@airgunology wow that sucks sorry and thank you for helping me understand.

[@bertbccfu9564]

I know these comments are old but I am in the USA also, was wondering the same thing about the fac license, it's too bad that you guys could not get a politician on your side to try to relax some of the fac rules considering air guns, like as long as you are a Law Abiding adult Citizen with a clean record that you could be trusted with a full power air rifle, As I think myself if I lived over there I probably wouldn't bother spending that much money on a sub 12 rifle, I know it's probably been tried but maybe could start a petition and you could possibly get one of the politicians on your side to help you with the fight for at least those minimal rights, even here in the USA in 2023 ATF is trying to take our rights away bit by bit , seems you give them an inch they want to take a mile, but anyway good review and I am going to subscribe to your Channel,

[@shirtlesslager]

@@bertbccfu9564 You can get rifles easily there, but apparently a period key on your keyboard comes quite dear.

[@iankenny79]

What’s the waiting time for one?

[@airgunology]

A few months I think now

[@ianrudd2668]

Hi Steve, great vid as per usual, I have two of these an bloody love them, may I ask where you got that sexy little bipod from…? Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@marymilvalen1]

simply an airgun that is "GAME CHANGER"....it's a hammerless system that leads to its superior accuracy over a hybrid pcp AG today. oneday all pcp AG will be that way, a hammerless so it will be far more accurate and more fun to shoot and more satisfying AG will be.

[@allenschmitz9644]

Lee-she..is that how you call this kit mate?

[@ziadkadi]

I'm just here to give that gun a big kiss mwach

[@1000000volts]

Cant decide on the Edgun or a Huben K1 both self indexing and can go below 12ftlbs

[@BurhanMuntasser]

Where is the gun actually made? US or somewhere else?

[@bertbccfu9564]

Russia

[@Lorwildrose]

Why would you want 3000£ gun like this in sub 12FB?

[@gongwo6311]

da bao nhieu a

[@johnnyventurino8947]

Steve ease up on the Coke Cane buddy. Your gonna have a heart attack.

[@TurbotoTaLL]

Q: bottle volume?

[@airgunology]

300

[@lachcao1102]

Cây này báo nhiêu vậy sohp

[@alanmullock381]

Good news Steve,don't get lending it to Abby,you'll never get it back😁😁😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@airgunology]

hahahaha

[@adrianhurley3909]

...it's stressful this Youtubing! 😳......good vid though! 😉

[@airgunology]

If you on about my hair, that was my IT job that caused that.

[@adrianhurley3909]

@@airgunology more like your stressed face and voice at the unlimited numpties on KZbin! Lol

[@ohiotalonss9098]

Damn, haven't watched you for a while. Looks like you've put on about 40lbs.

[@airgunology]

I have due to lockdown. I am pushing 50 now and thinking of retirement :)

[@heathhalfhill6867]

@@airgunology retirement from??? Video reviews???

[@airgunology]

@@heathhalfhill6867 IT Consultant. I don;t want to work forever

[@heathhalfhill6867]

If I’m spending that kinda $ on a pellet gun...I better have an FAC to get the full potential out of it. Sorry, but it really seems like such a waste. Kinda of like buying a Ferrari with a 1 ltr 55 HP engine in it. I understand the action but not the need with the power restrictions and the distances it only good for. Sorry...not being disrespectful at all...mad respect. Just don’t get it...for real. I totally dig the setup, the length, the extra bottle, but the non-FAC power??? No sir...I don’t get it. Please help me to understand so I don’t sound like a complete ass.

[@airgunology]

For some, it is about the hobby and owning it. I tend to agree that our UK sub 12 laws are a pain, but them are the laws and if I want a rifle, I have to follow them if I am not FAC. The same could be said for most of the rifles made as they are all castrated for UK (and other countries) sub 12 laws. It would be very boring hobby if I only stuck to rifles made for sub 12 only. May as well take up air soft or nerf guns.

[@heathhalfhill6867]

@@airgunology so true

[@tomconner2326]

British government does not trust it's citizen's with a full power air rifle, what a shame.

[@kaybee2810]

Audio engineer here, so with the placement of your lavalier mic you need to start breathing from your nose because it's just bad and I couldn't even clean that audio up (without a lot of work and software) and I've been doing this for over 15 years. Still the video is good with lighting and great detail but the mouth breathing is very off putting. Still you may have a cold so if that's the case fair enough.

[@paulstamp1208]

Fine for me

[@heathhalfhill6867]

@@paulstamp1208 doesn’t bother me either

[@peewee007654321]

I’m fine with it too 👍 annnnnnnnd,,,,, how rude 🤣🤣🤣

[@donpay1714]

Doesn't bother me, I'm from the Midlands nobody understands half of what I say

[@MrPeterschmit]

Why are British airgunners so obedient about the sub 12 fpe ? Are there actually police going around checking? Just curious.

[@robfleet5345]

Please at least pronounce the name correctly.. it’s Lesh- ee. , not leash-ee.

[@airgunology]

I prefer my way and it annoys people :)

[@robfleet5345]

@@airgunology i guess you can, just makes you sound like you don’t know what you are talking about.. You also say “ It’s designed to be a full powered rifle, as are most air rifles.. Impacts, Daystate, they are all designed sub 12 foot pound”!!! Contradicting yourself...

[@mikewolfensberger9326]

@Steve Allan ...as Eric Clapton stated early in 1976 already: "There's one in every crowd"... Or Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young ""Don't let it bring you down" 😉

[@willybee3056]

But I know a Russian lady, and when we talked about it.. She called it a ( Less - ee )... A rose by any other name, smells the same...

[@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining]

Please don’t take any offense to this, but if you don’t know anything about these air guns, why is it that you have a channel doing airgun reviews? You don’t know anything about the regulator you don’t know anything about really much of anything as far as the internals of the gun, you’re just showing how it shoots, and the most basic things that there are to an air gun, so what exactly is the point of this channel? I have a channel where I not only show the entire internals of the guns, but how to machine your own parts. So, like I said, it’s not meant to be offensive, but if this is not your thing, and you don’t understand it, why not find some thing that you do?

[@chriszanetti2619]

Bro chill out...

[@derivas007]

too expansive

[@airgunology]

For some, not for others. I want a Ferrari, but they are too expensive. Doesn't mean I don't think they are great cars and should be disregarded to all.

[@petarobradovic1326]

ZASTO NIKAD NIKO DA SE SETI DA NAPISE KOMENTAR NA SRPSKOM JESIKU...BUDICI DA IMA MNOGO NAS KOJI NE ZNAMO ENGLESKI A JAKO SMO ZAINTERESOVANI ZA OVU MARERIJU...?,,,....!

[@Sidelinefighter-expert]

Avoid this POS 2023 buyer The gun Jammed and would not open or unlock, form cocked stance. Needed to be disassembled. In first time Out of the box, It would Dry and faulty fire, again when filled and fresh out of the box After 3 8 shot rounds It not fill at all. It took many attempts. Then finally, when filled the Cartridge / air canister twisted and bent, when filled to 246 bar, the canister and stock butt twisted and would not fire / at all, rendering the gun a complete hunk of useless junk. The company are delayed in response, flippant in their response quality and simply blame the user and will not review the $3.5k USD one month old purchase. This gun and product line are an entire scam and waste of your time and money, avoid the Edgun Leishy 2 9mm