Edmund McMillen on The Making of The Binding of Isaac, The Legend of Bum-Bo & More

[@Tleilaxu0]

As someone who spent a lot of time on Newgrounds during their teenage years, I've got a lot of respect for Edmund McMillen. That place, in that time, was lightning in a bottle (gross, immature, edgy lightning, but lightning nonetheless), and he was an invaluable part of that ecosystem. Edmund, I don't know if you'll read this, but never stop being you.

[@wyllydw]

I love how genuine edmund is in all of his interviews, we need more people like that.

[@nautilus2342]

Can't wait for Repentance. Edmund is a genius.

[@Jovalliere]

And Vihn and all the Antibirth team are too. There wouldn't have been Repentance without Antibirth !

[@demalex-nv7ut]

Not your saggitarius appreciation here

[@basiloregano]

Jack and Ed's chemistry is amazing. I hope they do more interviews or talks in future.

[@krayzoman]

I have never been so engrossed watching a developer interview. 90% of the time it's VERY clear that everyone is aware of the industry they're in and that what they're doing currently is simply dressed up advertising. I got some of that from Jack with the few overly-inclusive topic changes but every time Edmund talked it felt like watching someone open up, it was incredibly real and personal, it was super informative for any creatives out there, and I'm definitely glad I tuned in. Gonna spend the next few days checking his stuff out. Also that last point hit a little harder than it probably should have. Thanks for that.

[@gabe1ist]

thats why his dang games are so good, because he doesn't bow to other people's opinion.

[@Akira-cd2qs]

@@gabe1ist he's a very genuine guy

[@EhCloserLook]

Gotta agree with @Akira, that’s just how Edmund seems to be.

[@Lobotomistmankyeh]

"I think people are gonna shit when they realize what's in it" high hopes for repentance good luck ed and thanks jack for interviewing this legend!

[@Akira-cd2qs]

I really hope a lot, i mean, we pretty much know what's gonna be in the DLC, because, well, it's basically antibirth+, and if they only added antibirth it would have been awesome, but they are adding so much more and he saying that just confirms that this is gonna be pretty massive

[@zaephou2843]

And he was completely right.

[@aniruddhadas1011]

....Aaaaand he made a great dlc,on par and better than wrath of the lamb.

[@pyooming3098]

thanks for interviewing the edman

[@deebzscrub]

Ed seems like a really cool dude, this was a fun interview to watch

[@slippy5849]

I love his words about Vinh getting him sucked back into Isaac. I'm happy that Ed's motivated to start making games again, he's such a huge inspiration for me and I really just love him to death. I can't wait for Repentance and Mewgenics, and on that note all his future projects! Never stop Ed, you're an incredible person

[@Akira-cd2qs]

The dude is pure love, like i can't hate someone so honest and carismático like him, and i have played isaac for like almost 2000 hours, so he is a inspiration for me, even if I'm not a game developer.

[@kevinmercier9904]

I enjoy interviews with Devs. Thanks!

[@stevebob240]

Fantastic interview, I love it! Edmund is a true artist.

[@AdamChan318]

I've always aspired to be a dev like Edmund, nice to see him on the show ^^

[@samlipton7872]

After watching this, I had to finally pony up and buy Rebirth + for the switch. Edmund comes across as so knowledgeable, honest, and genuine that I just want to support him by playing his damn game with (nearly) all the add-ons included.

[@RESGorilla]

Always happy to see people playing Isaac, hope you've been enjoying it!

[@but_in_space_though2919]

Thank you Escapist, very cool!

[@Reniachii]

Incredibly good interview. Really loved how the interviewer does not get on the way, how edmund is also comfy, and overall it felt like a friend's chat rather than an interview and I'm so glad it was this way.

[@alanheavey6005]

Great interview, honest, funny insightful. I hope you do more Jack ✊

[@joeyparkhill8751]

Every time I see Jack Packard I'm reminded of my Uncle Curtis saying, in a movie theater, yelling "HEY BALDY! DOWN IN FRONT!"

[@shiknobi2055]

I love how comfortable this interview feels, like 2 friends having a conversation over beer and snacks

[@andrewhickinbottom1051]

I've actually never played any of these games, and almost wasnt going to watch this, but i'm glad i did! Great interview, and a really nice chap. Kudos for him to just making what he wants, and getting his pooey, dead baby vision out there :-D

[@michaeldunleavy3868]

Why hasn’t this got more views? We need more ‘real’ non glossy interviews like this. Great job 👏

[@pixeltrash5098]

Edmund seems like such a stand-up dude. great stuff.

[@shimotuazuma9485]

Love to see it again.

[@dentxn]

just randomly came across this interview, ofc gotta love Edmund but was pleasantly surprised to see jack as well!

[@mityakiselev]

Here's the deal with Isaac: the game has obviously grown a lot over the years. Vanilla Isaac was without any doubt a great game, but all the additional mechanics and content and little stuff here and there - it made the game elevate on a whole other level. The Binding of Isaac is imho one of the best games ever, and it's the small stuff that makes it so good. When I heard they're fixing a bunch of stuff, like making old items synergize better and create new weird effects, I was pogging out of my gourd. There's something incredibly satisfying for me in seeing these tiny details in videogames, like if you're this specific character and only them, this item now has that effect. Someone hand-coded that shit. There's always this sense of discovery in Isaac, this excitement, "does this item work with this one and what would it look like?" And the fact that they're adding as much of it as possible, fixing old stuff and making the game even better, it's just amazing. We have too few developers who are both big and decent, and every time I witness something like this, people genuinely creating something entertaining and carrying a powerful message, it gives me so much faith in humanity. Can't wait for Pépéntance.

[@tiberseptim37]

Is it weird that I’m more excited to see Jack than Edmund?

[@margotperez7162]

Yes, it's very weird... JK : )

[@MichaelDeGar]

Same. I found jack through redlettermedia. Hes the best

[@margotperez7162]

@@MichaelDeGar Although, like everybody at RLM, he gets a little cranky sometimes... : )

[@Deltaguy447]

Jack is a treasure.

[@manman-fq4zw]

he seems so proud good for edmund

[@MrTojans]

I enjoyed this thank you guys! :)

[@ace_sabo_luffy__7742]

Love you Edmund. Indie game the movie made me genuinely emotional

[@scenoptica]

Great interview, Jack. :)

[@puppysect]

Jack getting some use out of all the satanic panic videos from BOTW.

[@santiagoacosta3372]

Edmund is such a nice guy

[@MandleRoss]

Jack is such a pleasant interviewer and he makes the guest feel totally at home and lets them talk. BOOOORING!!! Can we please get a series where Yahtzee interviews game devs and there's a countdown meter for how fast he can make them cry or ragequit?

[@MandleRoss]

I'm kidding of course, this was an awesome interview and I'm going to share the link to it on the AGS boards. (But I still _would_ watch the hell out of the Yahtzee interview series!)

[@PyroSeeker]

great interview!

[@FrankCaves]

Thanks for this. I’m excited

[@EhCloserLook]

I believe the correct term is *RogueLITE* , Jack. *GREAT* interview BTW!

[@local_stranger]

is no one gonna talk about how he wears his headphones?

[@error17_]

edmund mcmillen and david jaffe need to make a game together

[@Troll_Juice]

Good interview

[@88Opportunist]

Can't stand The Binding of Isaac thanks to the imagery so I thought I would watch this and find out why it was chosen. I am not disappointed, I still find the game deplorable but this was a highly informative watch. He's like the HR Geiger of fart jokes and fun.

[@kendrel2099]

Can confirm that some people shower after a poop

[@ShoXwavee]

The only thing I play on the Vita is the Binding of Isaac

[@kevinbennett4945]

my hyper religious aunt stole my magic cards threw them out when i left them at her house, but at least she bought me a game boy pocket the next time i saw her. I then played pokemon red on it, a game about evolution. Ironic.

[@darthvader4339]

Bruh, did she throw away any good cards, my brother ripped my first edition Machamp the only first edition card I had.

[@J05TI]

Evolution in Pokémon is more akin to metamorphosis in the real world, to be fair.

[@robertlowe6367]

I shower after every time lol. Would love a bidet but I live in an apartment.

[@joakimhansen7733]

Awesome.

[@basiccaveman]

nice

[@wolfbro82]

I've been playing binding of isaac since 2014

[@DONTxCLICK]

Hi first video I watch from you and I have to tell you that the sound effect at 1:11 sounds like your car scratched something when you are listening to the video as a podcast. It freaked me out.

[@DaniloSouza-bt2xt]

I'm surprised they're so surprised by people showering after poop. That's like common sense where I live...

[@Quax0]

Does he mention mew genics in this?

[@meestabond7583]

I have a tattoo of evil Dr fetus. Who else has a Dr fetus tattoo?

[@jacobkilborn1738]

I stand

[@tommihalonen6471]

But why?

[@jacobkilborn1738]

Ima tall guy with long legs. Easier than hunching over the bowl...

[@tommihalonen6471]

@@jacobkilborn1738 Fair enough. But do you rip/fold the paper standing up too or is there sitting and standing involved? This is important.

[@jacobkilborn1738]

@@tommihalonen6471 Oh its of the utmost importance, but I feel it needs contrast. How do you conduct your business sir? I stand and fold the paper as well. I find folding helps reinforce the ply. Can we agree single ply is for people who secretly enjoy wiping their ass with their hand?

[@tommihalonen6471]

We can. P.s. I dont know exactly why but your reply just made my day. Thanks :)

[@NikolaiAvilov4446]

Pog

[@eaeaeafdfdfd3334]

Only thing missing is RICH.

[@ashleysmith38]

I love you he binding of Isaac but I know it would trigger some people I'm really close to

[@jordmcvlog]

Is Jack replacing Rich in The end is nigh?

[@viktorcaleis]

If you don't shower after you poop you're disgusting :D.

[@flightlesschicken7769]

You are aware showering everyday (or even multiple times a day) is terrible for your skin? Every other day is much better for you

[@viktorcaleis]

@@flightlesschicken7769 You're aware you don't have to shower to wash your butthole after you've pooped ?

[@bassfight2936]

Pretty sure showering that often is also not good for the environment

[@Jade-tr4ee]

This seems familiar

[@DwAboutItManFr]

No please make videogames. :(

[@Smithjaack]

Hopefully repentance doesn’t come out on Xbox, 3 years after every other platform

[@KyekOfficial]

Please put your logo over the video instead of having this thick purple frame

[@flynnjaman]

Interesting. I see a green frame!

[@DEATHrocket777]

It took getting banned from PSN for me to finally stop being as much of an edgelord. I have to reserve my dark comedy for actual people now, since everything's recorded on the internet and some people can't handle a joke, even in groups where the number one rule is "We do not report each other."

[@umlammy]

I like Edmund but the Legend of Bumbo is in no way shape or form a deck building game and it doesn't contain any deck building game mechanics.

[@kentmiller808]

Don’t you move through different floors collecting and discarding spells (cards)? Like there’s a shop and you can choose different actives and passive spells but only have so much space.

[@umlammy]

@@kentmiller808 Yes and these "cards" don't behave as cards in anyway. It's just picking power ups for a slot. Using card game terminology to describe other things doesn't magically make it behave in anyway like a card game. It's like if FTL started calling all its weapons cards and if you remove them you "discard" them, it doesn't suddenly become a card game.

[@kentmiller808]

@@umlammy they weren’t saying that it’s literally a deck builder, but it uses similar principles. You have abilities (spells, cards, etc), with associated mana costs, they are randomly obtained so each run you will have a different “deck”, and part of the game is managing your limited number of slots, forcing you to decide between keeping and removing certain spells, similar to other deck builders. Sure it lacks the random element of drawing your cards, and part of deck builders is deciding how to keep your deck a decent size, which bumbo also lacks. But I think it’s fair to say the game has deck building elements.

[@umlammy]

That's like saying it has deckbuilding elements because like in a deckbuilding game you can win.

[@kentmiller808]

@@umlammy no it’s not since the things I listed are fairly unique to deck building games. But go off

[@MichaelDeGar]

Terrible game imo but that guy seems like a great guy. im glad there is an audience and he was became successfull