AHSOKA | Part 1 REACTION!

[@jasonvoorhees310]

I love how baylon said it would be a shame killing Ashoka seeing how there are so few jedi left. I know in Disney star wars it seems like alot of jedi survived order 66, but i did appreciate his character saying that. Adding depth and layers to his character like that.

[@neutchain7838]

They don't look evil to me. He wasn't gonna kill anyone on the spaceship if they allowed him to take the prisoner. They do bad shit if they have to but it doesn't looks like they're inherently evil like the Sith. I think they're closer to someone lime Dooku.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

@@neutchain7838 redemption is probably in their future. It's safe to say at least for one of them.

[@emilylewis5373]

I mean there were 10000 jedi at the time of order 66. Even if only 1% survived that is still 100 Jedi. And we have yet to see 100 Jedi that 'survived'. And most of them died within the reign of the empire.

[@thattrickytrickster612]

The music playing while Sabine was on the speeder fit a lot, at least in my opinion. It's like a Alien rock song, and i think it's supposed to be what Sabine was listening to herself.

[@n1c3s43]

the music while Sabine was on the Speeder was the best thing about both episodes imo

[@pizzadoog]

it totally fit her. riot grrrl music for the rebel

[@mrsmi1ey]

it was perfect

[@JeremyCoolDude]

Yeah I've heard people complain about any non-orchestral music in Star Wars and I seriously don't get it. With such a vast, diverse universe....wouldn't one EXPECT to hear different music genres? Of course there's going to be punk rock in Star Wars. Weirdest thing to complain about IMO

[@mrsmi1ey]

@@JeremyCoolDude One of my favorite parts of the recent Jedi Survivor game was hearing the variety of in-world music you can unlock in the cantina you help improve. All of it sounds so different, while somehow still sounding extremely "Star Wars." I think the song played in this episode was no exception!

[@Lycan4647]

I knew Dave would deliver with this one! Hopefully it gets better and better as the season goes on

[@victoriavicky7960]

Seeing Home 1 again in live action felt so incredibly good.

[@kirkhassett8726]

LOVED both premiere episodes!! Beautifully written, filmed, lit, acted, and scored. I do wish the pacing was a bit faster, but it’s a minor quibble in this case. These episodes have not shaken my confidence in Dave’s mission to give us this story with no unnecessary filler or side plots. I agree that Rosario Dawson was born to play Ahsoka in live action. But I have to give special mention to the late Ray Stevenson. His presence as Baylan onscreen is magnificent.

[@Bruceisthemask]

"Her fighting style gives me huge chills" as you look away from the best moves of the fight choreography. C`mon!!! Much love brother, May the Force be with you.

[@SunshineSahn13]

I’ve awaited this review almost as much as these episodes it seems 😂 greatness as always bro.

[@WhatDayIsItTrumpDay]

No, Clancy Brown voiced the same character in Rebels as he's playing here. Ryder Azadi. So this was a great call back. It just so happens that his animated character looked a bit like the voice actor.

[@Anuthika]

Like with Bo-katan, Filoni did get a few characters designed to look like either the already cast actor or the actor he wanted cast.

[@cenotemirror]

They subtly told us what Morgan Elspeth was back during her episode of Mandalorian. “Her people were massacred during the Clone Wars,” Ahsoka told Din. That combined with her name and ability to fight a Jedi like that made her being a former Nightsister an easy guess.

[@wolffpackracing]

I don't usually watch allot of reaction videos but I'm a huge Star wars and especially Rebels fan, having said that I really like this vid and I can really relate to your connection with this series. I also think Fanoni and co hit it out the park.. Subbed and heading through your back catalogue mate. 👍

[@Doodchillbro]

and the senator Ryder had step in for Sabine I realize is that kid that ezra kept in touch with throughout rebels. nice touch Dave.

[@Anton_OORer]

Great reaction as always!

[@k--music]

Qui-gon’s ghost gotta be mad as hell to be the only one who died from a stab

[@neutchain7838]

Only if he got stabbed in the Disney Era lol

[@ryanflake3481]

The sentiments expressed in the intro here echo my own thoughts pretty closely. Star Wars needs new Icons, and I think that Rebels, Mandalorian, and now this are providing those icons for our love of this universe to deepen while a new generation falls in love with it as well.

[@izabelasiczek3547]

I loved watching Mandarin with you so I knew I be watching this with you too love your passion for star wars

[@scarlettsugar8159]

I liked the music when Sabine was racing down the road because it's *very* 1990s Riot Grrrl style music. If this wasn't Star Wars I can almost guarantee they would've chosen "Rebel Girl" by Bikini Kill for that scene. I can totally see someone like Sabine being into the Riot Grrl movement of the 90s.

[@timkennedy8766]

Sabine's Speeder Bike music fits her Star Wars Punk Rock style... Space Punk. And the E-Wings were spot on.

[@danielsiriphongs]

Really enjoyed it. I'm hopeful for the rest of the series.

[@STUDZiammanythings175]

I really like this channel and your input!!

[@basicwolfe6707]

been a long time lurker man, always enjoy your content. idk why i havent subbed sooner

[@jackietreehorne9596]

We luv you Skyman! ^_^

[@sandhater2887]

Happy to see you back reacting to Star Wars ❤

[@S.E.Walker]

I think Qui-Gon got stabbed through the spine, whereas Sabine only took it to the gut. Since lightsabers cauterize, such a gut wound might be more survivable than a gunshot to the same place, which people survive in movies all the time. Plus the advanced healing tech of the world… I think it’s all medically reasonable depending on what internal organs get damaged. That said, I thought the Obi-Wan show was really sloppy with it, but I don’t mind it here.

[@undie3x7]

Completely agree. I don't know why people have a hard time with it. Sabine was stabbed in the side of the stomach(very survivable location) and almost immediately got medical attention. Qui Gon was stabbed more in the middle and he didn't die immediately anyway. Difference is it wasn't possible to get him medical attention. It's not that he couldn't have survived it but the circumstances prevented it. Don't know why that's a difficult concept to understand.

[@k--music]

I don’t think Sabine took it to any vital organ either it seemed pretty clear that it was intended to be a side wound, similar to cal’s in fallen order

[@undie3x7]

@@k--music absolutely. I never thought lightsaber stabs meant automatic death but just like in real life what it actually went through and how quick you can get medical attention matters.

[@k--music]

@@undie3x7 yeah I always assumed saber wounds were less severe than actual blade wounds would be since you don’t tend to lose a lot of blood, assuming vitals aren’t damaged

[@djsugarbear6715]

....this

[@neutchain7838]

I'd say we're off to a good start. The room where she talked with Hera is the same room ( on thr same ship) where they planned the battle of Endor. Nice to see you're back mate. 😀

[@neutchain7838]

Also, Kevin Kiner is killing it with the soundtrack. Outstanding work as usual.

[@jeffnmichele3296]

Hello there! Really great to see you again. From Newport Rhode Island on an amazing beach day. Been waiting for your reaction 👍😎

[@rylanthereee]

The amount of saber fights already had me so hype!!!

[@waynech370]

Good to see you back Thor Wars 👍

[@MrSamu149]

"The nightsisters of dathomir" 🔥. "For Ezra"

[@JangTheKim]

You have the absolute best SW reactions. Love when a new series comes up so that I can get your take. Love the channel brother

[@Blixer7]

It is good to see Clancy Brown cast in this serial. I always liked him at the start of his acting career as the Highlander antagonist the Kergan.

[@sixthscale501st5]

One of the best parts of a new Star Wars series is that it means more Skyman! Love your content bro! 🫶🏼

[@TheGamingLeopard95]

Lost time I watched your videos I forgot to sub and I lost your channel but KZbin just came in clutch with this W recommendation

[@jamesdaniels8007]

I've been looking forward to this!

[@mattwhelan13]

me looking at the live action Lothal buildings* "Magnificent aren't they?"

[@unincognito3689]

The rock music playing with sabine on the speeder is in universe music. Like that is what she is listening to when driving. So not usual star wars music but makes sense they would have that type of music in the Star Wars universe.

[@shawkins92]

The music Cal was listening to when I first started Fallen Order threw me for a second, then I didn't want it to stop lol I'm totally okay with including more than just Jabba's palace music and tunes from the Cantinas, makes the star wars galaxy more realistic, bring on the pop rock lol

[@unincognito3689]

@@shawkins92 Cal has an entire playlist u can listen to :)

[@NuclearFridge1]

I've heard it called "Huttese Punk Rock". Now I can't get that out of my head 😅

[@tmhargreaves]

My prediction - Luke will help defeat Thrawn but Thrawn will give him an understanding of his father he didn't know! How clever he was, an amazing warrior and hold darth in the respect he deserves

[@HansCholo619]

AHSOKA will be great I truly believe that...Love your reactions/reviews and knowledge of SW universe.

[@aidanjude2110]

If thrawns organ theme doesn’t play when we first see him or at some badass point. Imma riot.

[@mandyfox9376]

Dam it good to be back ❤

[@adrianrhodes2816]

I appreciate your videos and honest reactions. I also just appreciate how your mind works. But, we, as a fan base have got to understand that the sequels exist in canon. Their reality is inescapable. If you are such an opponent of the sequel trilogy, then I think the best you can hope for is good content and storytelling that "bridges the gap" from original trilogy to sequels. It's so interesting having been witness to the original trilogy and to have watched the collective opinion on the prequel trilogy change so much over time. I don't fully understand the vitriol that SOME have for the sequels (not most, though the detractors are always more vociferous--was the same for the prequels). I suspect I know what is at the heart of it, but that's for another discussion.... I will sit back and try to allow myself to be transported by the stories and universe that I have loved since 1977, and hope (as I always have) that we as "fans" don't strangle and kill the very thing we claim to love so much. Keep posting and reacting as I do genuinely enjoy your honest discussion.

[@connorredshaw7994]

Really enjoyed the first two episodes well done Dave faloni 8.5/10

[@AlphaLeader42]

Senator Jai Kell, the one Governor Azadi talked to was the same boy who was with Ezra when he infiltrated the training academy on Lothal, and eventually helped Ezra and the Ghost Crew escape the Imps via the sewers in the last season.

[@deadstreet1675]

I loved it!

[@joshritz7067]

Qui Gon didnt have a ship right there that could take him to emergency medical treatment. I took Reva's servival as the same as Maul's: the dark side keeping them going. Reva obviously wasnt nearly as strong as Maul so that's why she was barely holding it together against 2 farmers. You want more people to die to light sabers then you need more people getting cut to pieces Kenobi style

[@Billzor991]

Seeing Clancy Brown as Governor Azadi genuinely was a real, real treat. I mean the whole thing was a treat.

[@squashmallow2006]

22:07 I'm still not sure as to whether Sabine is Force-sensitive though. Cuz she has been trained by Kanan in saber combat, and I'm guessing Ahsoka continued that part of her training. Can she actually use the Force tho? I don't fully know. SW does have characters who are aware of and in tune with the Force (i.e. Chirrut Imwe) but is she a telekinetic?

[@undie3x7]

She's not. At least not any more than any other living being(i think your Chirrut reference is a good example). It's all but confirmed in the second episode. Ahsoka just decided to train her, and it's not like Ahsoka cares about Jedi protocols anyway. So, the fact that she's not force sensitive wouldn't necessarily stop Ahsoka from trying to train her further. Besides, Sabine was already trained by Kanan somewhat, like you said.

[@unincognito3689]

Huyang says it himself that she isn't. Her "aptitude for the force falls short of all of them". Ofc he is a droid so he can't "sense" how strong she is with the force. But his experience with younglings is a good replacement. And I would assume he saw Sabine being trained by Ahsoka. And she also says she never had the abilities, probably meaning she never actually used the force at any point during her training.

[@snokones]

I had the same reaction when she got ran through, almost cried.

[@cruzjacknife8699]

19:40 pronounced that like a Star Wars name lol, Orr-Kestra 😂😂😂

[@thebeaverqueen2096]

The music is Hutteese Punk Rock

[@zaandarbrow]

Man I gotta get my reaction editing up to par lol y’all r fast

[@Jackson_Scott]

If you don't do a Baylen cosplay by the end of this series I would be very disappointed. Loved the reaction!

[@ObiBrownKenobi]

Canadian actor Clancy Brown has the privilege of being 3 Star Wars characters. 😊 Rider Rizotti - Rebels Savage Opress - CWAS The Davoronian on Mayfield's crew on The Mandalorian......

[@jayjaygeez]

I got mad Episode I vibes from this episode right off the bat. Loved it. And that's fuckin' Mr. Crabs!

[@davxlau]

Yeah, they aren't selling the "You were Like a sister to me Sabine" line. Ezra was hard crushing, there wasn't familial feelings on his part XD Also, the fact it looks like Sabine is wearing Ezra's outfit from season 4 without the pauldrons. I am holding out for the EzBine Shipping

[@connorredshaw7994]

I believe Dave said a few years ago that he sees Ezra and Sabine more like siblings instead of lovers.

[@TattleDelta]

@@connorredshaw7994 That's great, but he didn't do a great job at giving that vibe.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

Ezra was only crushing at the start of the show

[@unincognito3689]

Ye Ezra crushed on Sabine in the first Episode, and then after that not really. More teasing than anything.

[@k--music]

I didn’t pick up on a lot of crushing past the first few rebels episodes tbh

[@milanbanas101]

Dave Filoni and his love of wolves. Baylen Skoll and shin Hati. Skoll and Hati were two wolves in Norse mythology. Chasing the sun and moon across the sky in a never ending race. And in other mythology's marrok is created into a wolf by a witch named Morgan

[@DarthSherm94]

“I’ve been looking forward to this.” No really I have, ever since they released the trailer at celebration I’ve been hyped for it with Dave overall director I knew this was gonna be good, plus Ahsoka along side Vader is my favourite character I’ve loved both episode, yeah was more of a catch up and set up but it was brilliant nonetheless and it’s only gonna get better, can’t wait for ep3 next week!!!

[@lrmorin]

I see what you are saying about the lightsaber wound however master Qui Gon was hit in the middle of the chest maybe caught both lungs. here we se its on the side so there’s an explanation to Sabine. How ever I do agree there are two scenes that should be kept in mind whenever a light saber comes out, Obie Wan on the cantina and Lukes hand on Bespin.

[@SawdustFilms]

It was good but the caliber of Andor is just so high. It's pure art. We'll see how this progresses though. Solid start though

[@oXRaptorzXo]

I loved these eps

[@PlanetLinuxChannel]

I’m not real keen on the stabbing either, but to be fair, it was quite off to the side, and she was more seconds away from medical attention. As long as it didn’t puncture a vital organ, there’s little reason she couldn’t survive with quick medical intervention. As for the parallel to Qui Gon, he was stabbed centre gut and stuck laying on the floor for the entire time Maul waited to let Obi-Wan in and an entire saber duel. Plus Qui Gon never feared death and didn’t feel the need to artificially try to hold onto life. Regardless, I have to think Dave has a reason for doing this since he could have ended that scene in any other number of ways. I have a theory that their orange lightsabers might be Kohlan crystals (from the Master & Approntice novel) which are considerably weaker and wouldn’t cause as much damage depending where they make contact. Especially considering Kyber would be hard to come by these days, especially rare orange Kyber, they very well could be Kohlan crystals since they were (almost?) always orange.

[@jedigeek442]

Sabine wound was more to the side and not directly in the chest / spine like qui gon was

[@fullnelson4986]

We back babyyy🎉

[@yamcha65]

i think the only thing i wish is that we had more context to Sabine and Ahsokas relationship as master and apprentice. We see Sabine retrieve lightsaber training from Kanan, and then we are just told now that she was in training by ahsoka after rebels. I think this is a perfectly fine development but it does feel like we are missing a season of story when you think of this as just the next season of rebels, just wish we had a book or a comic detailing more of this, cause the state that Ahsoka walked away from being a master and abandoned Sabines training, that part feels a bit rushed and would probably feel better with more context. Overall though im super excited, i think it is probably going to be very important for Ahsokas story to be a master, to be in Anakins shoes to some degree.

[@beanbag9696]

The most Star Wars thing to happen since Rogue one!

[@adrianpallis4568]

While I do admit it feels like nobody dies now adays by lightsaber, I will say Qui Gon did get a Lightsaber through Plexus and the Spine, while Sabine got it in her kidney which you can survive by.......

[@smallvillefan72]

Remember when getting run through with a lightsaber meant you died?

[@Atom-E.B.E.]

Poor QuiGon

[@sakisaotome6753]

Lightsabers have never been as fatal as people seem to believe they are. Literally qui gon is the only major character who has died from being injured with a lightsaber from everything we have seen lightsabers are only somewhat more dangerous than a sword. The difference being they can cut through because of how hot they are which means they also cauterize the wounds. Based on where quigon was stabbed the lightsaber actually delayed his death over being stabbed with an actual sword and his world almost certainly severed the dual aorta. Because if the cauterization he had more time to move but if that had been a true sword he would have bled out extremely fast Sabine's injury was off center likely sticking only her intestines out possibly the edge of her liver. Plus Sabine was likely on the air to a hospital within seconds of being stabbed where as quigon had to wait minutes before Kenobi finished his fight with maul and even then they were deep in the middle of some factory or wherever. Mane if he had gotten stabbed near a ship and got immediate medical care he could have been saved but he wasn't everything was against him. Sabine would have needed surgery sure but her injuries are treatable even with it current medical abilities much less the more advanced tech they have in Star wars

[@Matthew-bx5yf]

The E-Wing Starfighter is such a wonderful nod to EU fans. And it looks so, so good in this universe.

[@BLSFL_HAZE]

Remember, Skyman, that the orchestral music is not an "in-universe" thing. The characters wouldn't listen to that kind of music. Sabine is clearly into "Star Wars metal".

[@snack_bar2474]

Justice for Qui-Gon.

[@Pinkielover]

I think the saber stab was just Dave Filoni saying I can kill these characters anytime I want.. I get it from the reactions of other KZbinrs everybody's pretty shocked with that moment , Then a few seconds later realize she's not gonna be killed... But I'm sure Dave did it for a reason And it's probably that I could kill these characters at any moment.. But yeah the stab made me rate this episode a little lower I deducted .2 points.. So yeah I give it an 8.8 out of 10

[@Raymail-tj4cf]

I watch multiple reactions after a show. A few seem to complain because it’s not like the cartoon. I enjoyed it and realize you can’t do cartoons with real people. Also she was stabbed in the stomach area and people live from that all the time.

[@ssotkow]

Seeing the excitement of Star Wars fans is quite contagious for normies.

[@omgnuub]

The music was not a nod to any audience. It essentially explained Sabine's character in seconds. I haven't looked it up but I hope it's huttese or something similar. I could see Sabine being into huttese punk.

[@ssotkow]

It's okay for showrunners to diversify and introduce new characters. As long as the story are epic, delivered in ways the journeys touch viewers, the new characters may be cherished like the memorable names SW fan base are attached to.

[@Nay-kp6uu]

"Did she just sign into Xbox?" Omg lol

[@MaximusMeridiusDK]

I feel like they heavily nerfed Ahsoka and her powers... I mean, she defeated Maul, even taking him in alive. She went toe to toe with Vader, even injured him... She was basically playing with the inquisitors on Rebels... Yet here she seems to have problems with 4 droids... (look what Luke did in ep. 16 on Mandalorian with a lot more than 4 droids...). She doesn't force jump onto the ship when fleeing the explosion... She could have held back the explosion like Kanan on Rebels, she could have made a forceshield like Grogu did on Mandalore.... But noooooo, she runs and climbs like a "normal" person..... I'm ever so disappointed in them not showing how powerful and capable she really is 😔😔

[@mikew4022]

So the show is not That feministic?!😂

[@MaximusMeridiusDK]

@@mikew4022 - I don't mind a female cast on the protagonist side, although I will argue Chopper is "male" 😉😂 It also goes well with the antagonist being mixed, but the primary antagonist is male... So to me, that's all well and good. I'm just not really ok with how much they underpowered Ahsoka... I mean, Obi-Wan and Anakin could sense the killer worms in Padmes room, Vader and Luke could sense eachother across a fair distance of space in RotJ... And yet they want us to believe that Ahsoka can't sense her former apprentice leaving with the map, IN THE NEXT ROOM!!!! Come on now 🙄🙄

[@youalreadyknow5003]

Sabine isn’t force sensitive lol

[@Balor22]

Kinda sounds like that band from Visions.

[@calmsquirrel7124]

Shame episode 3 is even shorter than 2 “We’re supposed to be going up not down”

[@edgarbrooks7695]

i was disappointed when he said she was like a sister to him. i wonder if he only said that as to keep from developing to strong an attachment to her.

[@waynech370]

Yeah they just about got away it this time. I watched closely where she got stabbed and knew she would get medical help ASAP. Off topic.... Google the cast of Ashoka and you'll see Hayden Christian there 👍

[@briansmith2739]

The hoverbike scene with the rock music is homage to Star Trek 2009. I like the easter eggs.

[@pauljt29]

So, you want Luke, Anakin and all of the Rebels but you want it to be new? 😊 As for the sequels, there’s no avoiding them. We know that story is in the future and it’s coming. You do have to be moving forward, as much as you want to sit in the past

[@meklavier4664]

Omg it's thor

[@mattwhelan13]

I think in your worries about Luke having no one to train you're forgetting two crucial things, even in the sequel trilogy where he was treated very poorly it was established that he rebuilt some form of jedi order and had learners under him and also that Ahsoka has met Luke and seems to be working with him. Wouldn't be surprised if she ends up collecting people and sending them to Luke

[@JayLaliberte-xs3ky]

Ahsoka is the epitome of a True Jedi, when she says I am no Jedi, She means she does not agree with the Jedi ways or the Jedi Council. But is the Personification of a true Jedi to the Living Force. Qui Gon Jin!

[@jasonrandell6523]

...blimey man...6 minutes in and you're still yapping 😂 Get on with it 🤪

[@alexdeghost2729]

Sabine got stabbed in her side similar to Cal Kestis.

[@southc4463]

#JusticeforQuiGon

[@Keitek]

I feel like making Sabine, Ahsoka's padawan was unnecessary. Sabine is already an interesting character without the need to be a padawan. I think (it might still happen) it would've been better to make Hera and Kanan's son Jacen, Ahsoka apprentice instead of Sabine but I get the feeling that Disney is saving Jacen to be Ezra's apprentice. Other than that, I really loved the first 2 episodes of this series and the ending credits are definitely the best credits of any Star Wars/Marvel series on Disney+ so far.

[@unincognito3689]

He would be 12 years old. Yes he could've started his training, maybe we will see him casually use the force to grab something to imply this. But he ain't gonna be able to help the same way Sabine can. Even without the force Sabine would be much greater help as a mandalorian than Jacen would.

[@timjones990]

I loved the first 2 episodes but the nerfing of lightsabres irritates me. I get that biologicals loosing limbs and decapitations isn't kid friendly but just burn marks on the republic troops was lame, and it seems everyone can survive a gut piercing sabre thrust these days, 3 count so far? Grand Inquisitor, Reva and now Sabine.

[@timjones990]

Also to add that Ray was incredible, what a great character. RIP Sir.

[@Anduril74871]

So, I'm getting incredibly tired of the "retcon the Sequel Trilogy" crowd. That's not going to happen. They're not going to tell all the people who worked on them that their time and effort was a waste. Just because you didn't like it doesn't make it universally hated either. This rhetoric has to stop. You do not speak for all Star Wars fans.

[@nativeman1174]

Kinda sucked that it didn’t make a continuous from where “Rebels” left off at. They just pretty much made the last few moments of the last episode of Rebels Live-Action. So for me Ahsoka is Starting of a lil poorly.

[@HeyItsRicki85]

Thor?

[@WeekendWeakling]

Qui-Gon Jinn is rolling over in his grave.

[@andrewsyouniverse1870]

Technically it's much further in the future after episode 1, maybe they have new technology that can heal stab wounds, the new republic especially

[@noeezyfluff]

It’s been, what, 30 years since then? I’d imagine they’ve got some technological advancements by now!

[@chazo1367]

Not really. He laid there with his wound for ages until Kenobi beat Maul. Sabine pretty much got immediate medical attention.

[@connorredshaw7994]

​@@chazo1367if he got the immediate medical attention like Sabine did no doubt he would have survived or at the very least had a far higher chance of surviving.

[@chazo1367]

@@connorredshaw7994 yeah he probably would, but he laid there for awhile whilst Kenobi was dealing with Maul, so he was pretty much done by time at that point.

[@scottishjp5082]

hey i think in ep 1 defence we see the apprentice lady hit sabine in the side where as qui gon and others camera shows it right through middle of his chest so i think they tried to justify her surviving but tbh i am loving the series i just wish it was not set before the new movies id rather it have an alternative future from the new triology

[@Doodchillbro]

did she just sign into xbox. lmfao

[@paulmurphy4723]

the icons exist, you not liking them doesn't wipe them from existence and you're only prolonging your own frustration/disappointment by denying it. this generation HAS their icons and they're getting more no matter what anyone says. just get past it man, for your own good. 👍 Mtfbwy