Educational Overwatch 2 Tiktoks Have Evolved Beyond My Understanding

[@austinmoe4865]

Let's be honest, everyone would like emotes and even souvenirs a lot more if you could cancel out of them instantly. I don't see why the devs haven't added this quality of life change

[@crowsnest420]

Exactly, I hate accidently emoting

[@Omar_MH]

I think they're worried about people exploiting them and then the game would be accused of being pay2win.

[@perseusapollon1926]

@@Omar_MHbut you can do exactly that with the standing still emotes

[@Koreley]

I don't have this issue since i binded my "hello" to Z

[@LEMON_2U]

it funny tho

[@blazevoptixzz9748]

As a reddit style Lucio main, he is correct. You can absolutely DOMINATE matches, attack everyone without dying

[@GirusBetterThanVirus]

Yeah, Reddit Lucio is great to pick off the enemy supports to give your team the advantage.

[@genghiskhan6809]

@@GirusBetterThanVirusExactly. I start off matches doing reddit Lucio by diving the enemy supports, then when someone dies at the frontline because they’re not getting healed, I run back then speed boost my team and boop frontline enemies into my team so we can run them over.

[@ofixge]

Yes reddit lucio can destroy ennemy backline moral if your good enough in low elo

[@FreezinLeo27]

I do megamind manager lucio playstyle and kill the enemy with my brain

[@archerdavidson6066]

Nope

[@scottarmstrong5155]

My favorite thing about any competitive game. When something happens that shouldn’t happen, so both you and the enemy just stop and you can’t help but look at each other like “are you seeing this?”

[@Xthebest_YT]

"Wise men say, forgiveness is divine but never pay full price for late pizza." - Michelangelo

[@amptheire5687]

I gotta get a new route

[@jamesdavis-hc2su]

"YOU TWO MINUTES LATE DUDE"

[@jasperdawnstar8530]

Wise words indeed

[@BrainDent]

youve just reawakened core memory from my childhood

[@ctopd6621]

Michelangelo is a party dude

[@SnoozySl1me]

Fun fact if you’re a lw and your teammate is emoting and is stuck in it put a petal underneath them let it go up a bit and then break it. This will force them out of their emote. That is all, have a great day everyone!

[@swagglesworth33]

this is the best tip ive ever seen for this game. thanks bro love you

[@skeletor_118]

You are definitely good at explaining things and why we should do them. You are a massive reason I climbed from plat to diamond in OW1 and now have hit masters in everything except dps in OW2. Because of you, I have a much better understanding of the game

[@lennypanier712]

Yeah that's true, however i must say that if i hit diamond in OW2 it's because of the rank inflation, but if it's not your case then well done cause i can't get better

[@maxdavis7722]

@@lennypanier712is there tank inflation in ow2 I’ve found it much harder to climb.

[@lennypanier712]

@@maxdavis7722 From what i have seen there is a rank inflation in every roles, but maybe if you find harder to climb in the tank roll its maybe because of the change from a more tactical approach with 2 tank to what we have in OW2, or maybe you are placed in your true level and now you face stronger opponent than before, or its the 50/50 OW2 problem

[@maxdavis7722]

@@lennypanier712 lol, I have no idea if my experience is just strange but the tank role is literally the only one I’m finding it easy to rise in. I jumped from plat to diamond in tank but I’m not very good, I’m hard stuck low plat in the other roles.

[@theeliteofficer625]

Funny story about the long emote one, I was playing Junkrat on the new Flastpoint mode, after the teams bloodied each other I beat a Torb in a 1v1 to cap point, and did the slurp emote (the one where he sips on a cup), it lasted so long the enemy team had time to respawn, walk back to point, and kill me. After respawning I then came back in time to beat the same Torb in a 2nd 1v1 to win the game

[@RaidenKunii]

Omg i wish they just let you cancel emotes without letting them run til the end

[@hitbyatank]

That’s one of my favorites but I have it unequipped because it takes forever

[@niggachu420]

Things that didn't happen part 1:

[@snowy6944]

@@niggachu420and then everyone clapped

[@Sleepy49914]

i love how in that clip it wasnt just the ram looking at the ball but also the doomfist, seeing both tanks cease fire to admire funny collision physics happening was beautiful, i was sad cuz ram's team kept attacking but laughed my ass off when i saw doom being pulled by lifeweaver when he was probably one bullet away from respawning lol

[@uncleasmo657]

Back when the ranking problems came in, I had a t500 lucio in my gold/plat lobby and he solo carried the entire game on his back. We rolled their entire team and he would hard hold the point on his own until his team got back and then rinse repeat until we loss through sheer lucio bs.

[@gimik2593]

3:45, this hit me personally because all through calc 2 in college my teacher just told us to use a formula without explaining why. It wasn’t till calc 3 (barely passing calc 2) that I got a real Professor who was able to explain the formula first day, and suddenly all my struggles with calc 2 went away got an A in that class.

[@adminanonymous1521]

It's extremely difficult for people who have a skill to remember and understand what it's like for someone who does not have that skill. There are a TON of different weapons and abilities in Overwatch and jumping in and trying to learn even if you are familiar with shooters it is very overwhelming at first.

[@Real_MisterSir]

The thing about climbing from low ranks, is that it tends to favor heroes that benefit from a change of mind, rather than a change of mechanics. Chances are if you're stuck in silver for months in a row, you are not exactly god's gift as a mechanically skilled gfuel predator. So if you base your climb on a hero whose effective playstyles either demand teamwork or high individual mechanics, then you have to improve at an exponentially higher rate than everyone else in your rank - which is extremely difficult to do when it comes to improving mechanically. It's one of those things that just takes time. So instead, the better option is to pick out heroes who can achieve high value not from mechanics, but rather from switching your playstyle and general mindset about how the game functions - and here some degree of coaching or educational content can help as a catalyst to make those changes more obvious, so you don't have to figure everything out on your own in regards to what works and what doesn't. It could be that you just instalock Moira and become an enemy backline dps god who simply learns to time their engages and understand when to go offensive, and when to chill back. This doesn't take mechanical skill, it takes intellect - and even if you lack some base understanding, at least you are more than likely to possess the intellect to learn from others who have mastered these playstyles and know how to teach them. Here you can acquire skill at an exponential rate with far more likely success rate, than if you were to focus just on mechanics. The only case mechanical heroes should be your go-to, is if you are already mechanically skilled and it's simply your 2head strats and playstyle that is sending you face first into a meatgrinder every teamfight, but more often than not good mechanical skill, even with dog playstyle, will get most people to plat fairly consistently.

[@NanoMp40]

Which heroes would you use as examples?

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@NanoMp40 Some go-to examples: Tank: Sigma / Orisa / Winston DPS: Junkrat / Pharah / Mei Support: Moira / Brig / Moira (yes) In Overwatch, everything that matters in the end is improving your ability to see mistakes from the enemy, as well as your own. And your mechanics are going to be the leverage that defines how far you can push your ability to punish those mistakes. The heroes I highlighted excel at having high potential to punish, with minimal mechanics required to reach above-average leverage, hence why they are most consistently rewarding your efforts. It doesn't mean they're easy to play, it just means their potential is accessed differently than many other heroes that rely more on mechanical brute force methods. Playstyle is all that is needed to unlock their potential, but most players don't actually seek to improve their playstyle, they try to bruteforce their subpar method, typically by thinking mechanics is the only way to overcompensate for their lack of understanding the game.

[@xyeona9624]

The good 1 second it took for flats to register the top 20 lifeweaver clip is pure commedy gold honestly

[@shadynasty2125]

About aiming advice, there really is only so much you can teach someone about aiming in PC games. While Overwatch has some hero specific tips that are useful, I find the most solid and long lasting advice you can give someone is just to learn the fundamentals of aiming (crosshair placement, reaction gaps ((even though reaction gaps don't apply to Overwatch as much as some other games)) etc.) and, in most cases, LOWER YOUR SENSITIVITY! More people than I can count on both hands have fought me when I tried to help, telling me their sensitivity was fine while it looks like Michael J. Fox was controlling their mouse, only to later lower their sens and then tell me "you were right! this feels so much better!"

[@Koreley]

The thing about aim, is that it's more about muscle memory than theory. You just have to put in the time, in anyway possible, to make your aim be consistent, both without and with your movement. I personally like the approach of building consistency in aimlabs first, to have a baseline for your aim, and then move on to overwatch directly, and learn to apply your muscle memory to moving aswell. Aimlabs helps build consistency regardless of if you move or not, but of course, you'll feel weird moving around and aiming with aimlabs aim in OW. Most people just have to learn to understand how much of their screen they move with their mouse to begin with.

[@shadynasty2125]

@@Koreley That's exactly why you can only teach someone so much. It's far more about playing the game and developing that muscle memory. There is no tip, secret or method that can make you good at aiming in a very short amount of time, which I see a lot of people trying to find. It's about being willing to put in the time more than anything else.

[@brown9671]

I tell them to lower their sense and then once they do they say “it feels slow” yeahhhh obviously because it’s slow to what you used before. I lower my sens everytime it starts feeling “fast” just dropped it to 4.5 800dpi feels great. There’s no reason you should be in the double digits at 800 dpi

[@brown9671]

@@Koreleyif you mean muscle memory in general I agree, but I think muscle memory at a certain sense is bogus. If you change you sense from 5 to 5.2 you should still hit the same amount of shots. And the fundamentals are still extremely important, which if you teach can actually improve someone’s aim very quickly

[@Koreley]

@@brown9671 There is something to be said about how precise you can get with really fast speeds, there's physical limitations in our muscles that DO make it very hard to be precise the faster you go, but in general, unless you're above, say, 2000-3000 dpi, or below, say 800-400, you should be more than fine with any sense

[@jamestrout9871]

When I first discovered your channel I thought you were just egoing every person you reacted to, but I absolutely agree that the best way to retain knowledge is to just be given the harsh truth which is something I've grown to respect about your commentary

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

Ok, I like that about the pros and explaining stuff. You can learn from stuff pros do but don't just take it at face value. Someone could be a Top 500 player, know everything there is to know about their Top 500ing of choice but if they can't explain well then learning from them is gonna be rough.

[@ctopd6621]

To add to this, you don't bring a 5 year old to College/University.

[@mattiOTX]

4:27 i would say mimicking is fine so long as you learn while you are doing it. See what the difference is between what you normally do and what you can do there and what the benefits are. Mimicking good play can help you realize why its good. Thats how I worked on my ana. I watch ML7 and then I thought about what sightlines do I have. What protection. Can I be dove and if I am where are the health packs and where would another support play. Same with Dps. You see them playing high griund, why? Oh they can shoot over the tank easier. It makes tracking easier and people on low ground dont have the same amount of cover you have by simply walking backwards. Mimicking can be the first step in understanding.

[@mentarium]

i think that's what flats was trying to say though. he was saying not to blindly mimic, but to apply thought to your actions. what you explained was beyond just mimicking the actions. you won't learn if you copy pro play page by page. you learn by observing why the pros do what they do

[@nahnvm8493]

Lucio is actually really easy to climb with if you have the right play style. Low ranks just go for frags and occasionally heal, high ranks abuse speed boost, com your team’s engages and don’t die. Got me to masters

[@Cuddlingus]

its def easier to wall ride on pc than it is on console as someone who swapped to pc

[@nahnvm8493]

@@Cuddlingus yeah for sure, I did the same thing as you, but that’s not to say that it’s impossible, just a lot harder to learn.

[@johnallen6281]

As someone who used to play this game for a living I will say. Being a heavy Lucio main on support thanks to frogger, and a heavy rein main thanks to flats, frogger’s gameplay kinda just explains itself since he’s that Reddit style Lucio. Flats explains why he’s creating space, saving ult, using ult ect. Sometimes, it really just comes down to who you’re teaching too

[@jairoperez9921]

Flats I never noticed but you are very well spoken in your explanation and how you articulate your thoughts. 🔥.

[@genghiskhan6809]

That bouncing vortex had me giggling for a solid minute.

[@Gabytron]

"cha cha slide around the bubble" lol

[@TheScottishMutt]

4:00 Some days in comp though, I really really wish players would at least mimic what the pros do. I tell the dps "go high ground," they don't do it; I say "high ground is the better position for you," some of them do it. If I ever try to explain and tell them "because there are so few routes to get there, you're basically going uncontested, and you can use the floor as cover to hide behind because they are physically lower than you are," then it's like their last two brain cells just blew through the last of their food and atrophied.

[@happystalker.]

6:16 to that guy in chat who said "being a couch is hard" is spittin😔💔

[@funwalkthroughs1285]

One of my first jobs I was promoted to manager and was responsible for training new shift supervisors. I learned how to explain and teach very well from that job/experience and it has helped me out a ton! That point that guy made in 2nd tik tok was great

[@FallenEvaneskyro07]

You know the funniest thing about Lucio's kit in lower ranks? Have u seen emogg's Bingos where he has a square for "Doens't know what to do with Nano", well in the case of Lucio's teamates (Reins included unfortunately) we could actually said "Doesn't know what to do with speed"

[@jamesmiddleton8335]

What you were saying about not knowing something is difficult when explaining/ teaching is so true. I started teaching a friend of mine a little while ago how to play guitar, I showed him a thing, he did that thing and it sounded awful and he asked why, I literally had no idea. I learned guitar when I was a young kid, I don't know what I do I just do it. We ended up spending the next hour trying to work it out by comparing him and myself playing something, slow motion recording me and him playing it so we can see what is actually happening because I had no clue lmao.

[@DeK-]

Nah better idea discord orb does 15% damage amp in Tank and 20% on DPS

[@Dabbernec]

I really like seeing the meta of games I don’t play so these videos and this channel are really interesting to watch. Thanks for showing me other games metas

[@TheScienceNerd100]

I think the main reason why Pros (Not all Obv) aren't good at explaining, is because they have to speak generally to appeal to a wide range of ranks, but it may not apply to you and your specific rank and/or skills at the game. Yeah they can explain every mechanic of how to play a character, but if you can't do them yourself or understand why or when to use them, then you will still fail, not cause the Pro is bad and their information is bad, its just you can't use what they said because of your own skills at that time. But just cause YOU can't use the information, doesn't mean that NO ONE can, so again its not that the information is bad, its just you at that time can't use it. But they have to speak generally to appeal to more people especially in the realm of TikTok. So you can listen to them, just don't take it 100% and say that's the only way it is.

[@crossdaboss8914]

Also not all tips apply to every rank or game like low elo if your reinhardt with shit supports you can't be as aggressive as a pro might tell you cause your team just won't let you play that certain way cause they arent doing x when you try Y Low ranks you really have to develop a solo play style till atleast high gold maybe low plat

[@speedsters4556]

you are good at explaining! Reason, you understand what you are talking about and know how to work with the problem you're dealing with. It's a skill and experience to have!

[@BonkVibin]

Spent 6 hours playing dps support yesterday. The fact that i was able to confidently jump a soldier and rail his man hole faster than his healing could save him while playing lifeweaver is just morally questionable. I was able to melt faster at a distance than that poor soldier. If he was in the team fight at all i would take high ground then use my platform to easily hop above him then drop down right next to him just to get 7 headshots and a kill confirm. I did that to him about 5 different times. Me and my other support duo ended that game both having 30+ kills. It was so funny. Playing dps support is arguably the funniest and most enjoyable thing to exist in overwatch. You won't change my mind and you won't be able to convince me to stop. You think my shenanigans will end when i hit diamond again?? No shawty. I'm going all the way and with my tendency to verbally sexually harass toxic players will be coming with me.

[@mayitakeyourhatsir8632]

Such a foul at 6:40 shooting the Doom without letting him witness when the Vortex falls. It's a QUICK PLAY cmon guys

[@mentarium]

how do you know it's qp?

[@tamas21145]

Our math teacher says straight up that he doesn't understand why it has to be done this way, he just knows 😂

[@TgPepper]

Wait until that hanzo realizes LW can cancel someone's emote by petaling them up and then breaking the petal

[@AbdulazizOla]

The tip that changed my life was: remove emote from your communication menu and put sorry or any shit in its place

[@lo-keyloki9986]

3:59 Ultramagneticc in chat could not be more incorrect if they tried.

[@diemrcupcake]

Lucio is hard to climb with because no one communicates. If you are really good and reddit its a lot easier.

[@RealWorldGaming]

Second video: me listen while looking at a soldier Lazering the enemy brutally

[@Levyathyn]

Ah yes, tips to play against Zarya. I will remember these for when I start playing quick play matches with teammates who actually know that they are supposed to stop shooting her when her bubble appears.

[@ghostlyswat12]

Whoever put the thank you wheel part next to the emote part is pure evil

[@sicklysweetdenouement]

the big issue with being able to quick cancel an emote would be corner peeking with them

[@samuelcoward4613]

It's fun to ride in to the final point on the payload eating sushi and yelling Saki!!!!

[@samuelcoward4613]

That hanzo emote has fucked me up so many times. It takes 9 seconds to cancel it.

[@StealthBomber422]

One of the best things that helped me in track and field was recording my race and watching it back and seeing what I did here... What I did there and then asking Multiple People who did the same thing What could I improve?? My coach (A great one who could explain it well ) helped me so much

[@lukasg4807]

Is it more complicated than just run fast?

[@arthurbarboza6258]

top tier video, love to see it!!

[@BobOrKlaus]

"dont play lucio diamond and below" holy shit, dont let that man cook ever again

[@tylerellison3722]

That wasn’t a stray, that’s was a coordinate strike…..

[@Rianoria]

my man, i don't touch Lucio, i can't even wall ride striaght properly

[@CanOfGrass]

I think the first guy got bullied by a menace of a Lucio

[@AMQWERTY379]

8:05 haven't they fixed that lifewever bug where you could pull people from grav with your abilities?

[@michaelmiller4465]

You’re the goat at explaining

[@doge9455]

For the guy at 3:00 more than a few strats pros use just wont work for lower skill players because they arent good enough to make the strats work

[@1stNumberOne]

First dude has a point. The higher you go, the better people play. Using cover, better positioning etc. so yes, you probably do take LESS damage unnecessary damage.

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

From what I can tell, it's not about whether or not they need the resource, it's more about how the resource is used. That being said, my main experience with Lucio is in Heroes of the Storm so I have a very different experience with him compared to Overwatch.

[@averydixon8670]

YAY NEW TIK TOK VID!! I LOVE YOUR CONTENT MAN(sorry caps lock)

[@zeezaoakenshield9781]

That emote has killed me so many times but i dont have the heart to unbind it 😭😂

[@brandanbates7622]

Im just gonna say that explaining video is the reason i watch you because if dont know what im doing and i need to know why not just the how

[@Pam234]

The first videos gameplay was crazy 😭

[@Mugthief]

Hey there, Mugthief here, creator of the first video! I stand by what I said, anyone with godlike Lucio mechanics will have an easier time getting out of lowranks on any support other than Lucio IMO. Thanks to Flats and his community, and happy to be featured on one of these for the third time!

[@ofirmedini6561]

The winston tips was sooo fumny and also good tips

[@thisisrox]

Thank you o7

[@valkyrie_592]

How many times i try to kill someone and then suddenly i start emote dancing like no ones business

[@ChazRoyalty15]

Every game that has emotes has you cancel them instantly if you tap a button or move, yet Overwatch locks you in place forever

[@kin-3877]

To prevent 3 peaking. Apex let's you cancel them but they had to add a mechanic that removed all enemies from your view if you emotes while they weren't there.

[@garretthopkins7035]

Right off the bat, I had a game as a Gold DPS where I watched a lucio slowly cross point on heals (not wall jumping, not toggling speed to get himself there faster) to try and help our doomfist who was on double digit hp and anti-naded. Next game, get a lucio who’s flying along the walls practically playing a third dps, but we steamrolled that team. I also saw a healbot mercy that day with the slowest reaction times and awful decision making. I hope those hero courses actually do a good job of teaching what makes the character good because I don’t have the aim to climb on DPS

[@NewEnglandArt]

I play him and become obsessed when my tank is Rein I become his backpack. Call me Gluecio

[@tqkf8878]

The Lucio one was crazy - brother didn’t swap speed until the end of the clip, stayed as far away from the walls as possible, and blamed lucio’s heals for the reason why he’s hard to climb with. Also the utility not being used isn’t even entirely true, as you can still use speed reactively to what your tank is doing. Also, he has good damage output if you use him correctly, and of all the otps I see Lucio is probably the most common in terms of how high they rose undeservedly

[@wolfman3131]

I have never been faster to press a vid in my life xD

[@joyfull4499]

His TikTok following list 💀 bro really told on himself lol

[@Fuzzimations]

I always ask myself why they wouldnt let people skip their emotes anymore

[@cime62]

7:00 it's not a bug it's actually logical but very unlikely to happen, only works if certain conditions are gathered, it's just very lucky that the walls have the perfect distance between each other and perfect angle too

[@tblake1203]

Flats is very good at explaining things

[@Battleress2]

and this is why you don't keybind emotes directly, only the emote wheel 😂😂

[@RealWorldGaming]

You can Bully anyone with Lucio(except Winston) but everyone else can get bullied

[@jimbobadoo]

R.I.P. JIMMY BUFFET! 💔

[@joelles]

flats laugh iis so contagious

[@al_w]

“No they’re allocated more properly” 🤓

[@Notafemboy385]

In fornite you can move when emoting to cancel the dance they should put that into ow

[@ClintEllis]

I learned that Doom's ult has a zoom button from a tiktok

[@minitiger101]

6:20 YOOOOOOO, this is my tiktok clip, so sick it's here! Too bad the Ana and Sombra ruined our fun 😭

[@Rami-rin]

Is no one gonna talk about the Soldier’s aim in the 2nd video? it’s kinda sus but it’d be insane if thats his actual aim

[@mentarium]

it's most likely legit, but that tracking is like asmr for the eyes

[@brown9671]

It’s cuz those are his aim highlights or whatever.

[@keatonlaubach5256]

Rau while not being an amazing OW player does have some of the best tips. When he used to do Apex videos which he was an amazing player at (at least to me) his tips were the best and definitely helped me.

[@Agent_Apostle]

I remember that hanzo emote had to take it off would let you get off of it so bugged lol

[@beartrap9367]

We need longer videos flats please 😢

[@spacekrill]

6:35 it's moments like this that make games great! 😄

[@minimalgrammar1276]

5:14 I disagree with that. Saying "you just sorta do it" when it comes to aim isn't unhelpful. In fact, I think telling people to do something specific to help their aim is probably just more likely to fuck them up. If you want to aim well... You just kinda gotta... Do it. Get used to it. Do it without thinking. Or maybe not, maybe everyone has their own way of aiming. Either way, I think this dude picked a bad example.

[@EggyYoke1]

As a lucio one trick with well over 1k hours I am offended

[@insertclevernamehere6607]

3:45 Flats Mansplains Blazblue Central Fiction.

[@devastatheseeker9967]

The people who say overwatch 2 is a bad game have never played a bad game in their lives

[@eggur0ll289]

I share my screen a lot in the OW2 discord server. When I play, I get the same question every time; “How is your tracking so good?” It gets to a point where people accuse me of aimbot, but I digress. I disagree about Flats’ view on giving one dimensional answers. I could give people bs like “I do this and that every day, work on your this, do that,” but I genuinely don’t know how to answer it. I’ve built the skill over the years. I just play the game. That isn’t me being ignorant or not wanting to answer. It’s just that I don’t use any of those “How to improve your aim FAST” videos or anything. I have just accrued the skill over the years.

[@cryha8789]

Idk I got like 14k heals on Lucio on flashpoint in lower ranks while having over 60% on speed boost.

[@Justarandomriceenjoyer]

7:08 brain go weęęėëêéèëéėęèéê

[@natebriggs542]

Yo what’s up flats! Love your content man, I have a question for ya, my birthday is in a few weeks and I’m asking for a pc, I currently main dps and support and hover around diamond, do you have any tips for making the leap between the two platforms, if not it’s totally all good, keep up the awesome work man

[@bananawillrule193]

I climbed from silver to masters on Lucio alone. I learned the Reddit style and it helped climb up until high plat low diamond

[@Fixer48]

Good thing im leaving this nightmare of a game for xdefiant and starfeild

[@Rios-ov3xi]

Ya know, you really should be able to exit emotes early

[@XGoldenx03]

Frogger and Redshell the best reddit lucios

[@josephpolk9660]

Isn't the Surefour rant with Seagull ON KZbin

[@TheChryystal]

I love Lucio and he is absolutely climbable... It's about knowing when to flip healing/speed. It's really not rocket science.

[@duncanhawk4500]

Im the Chessmaster support player but with the way the game has changed its not really as impprtnat as the mechnical player now

[@milamber319]

As a maths teacher i can tell you that because maths are a 2000+ year nested of theory and tradition, the answer is more often than not actually "just because". Or even more often its "because if you did it differently the answer would come out wrong" or "because it is faster" Sorry.