Edwardian Cosmetic Surgery

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[@Ater_Draco]

You know n̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ quite a lot actually, John Snow

[@yayamene386]

I was expecting this comment

[@bertoandon9681]

Damn! I was planning the sentence structure of a v similar comment as I read this one

[@CindyLooWhovian]

😂 I made that same joke in my head, but your version is much more clever than mine

[@pliktl]

Now, stop that brooding!

[@davidshi451]

He's also a founder of modern epidemiology, tracking the spread of cholera!

[@victoryfaction]

John Snow is also the father of modern epidemiology. Even though by some accounts the 1854 London cholera outbreak was declining by the time he figured out the cause he DID give us the skills and concepts we needed to start battling infectious disease outbreaks in a meaningful way. Check out the book The Ghost Map for more!

[@KazakhToon]

The grandfather of epidemiology, of course, was John Snow's dad William

[@lindamaemullins-wr1jg]

🤔👍

[@billystokes3917]

Geographical epidemiology for the win!!

[@getspaded]

i love the ghost map!! one of the only books i have genuinely wanted to keep reading and every time i put it down i wanted to just get back to it

[@NatalieValentina6]

Oui, no more ✨MIASMA✨🙃

[@AkumakoCross]

Whenever I find myself wondering if XYZ thing was done at a given point in time, my general rule of thumb is that if the technology/techniques/materials to do a thing existed, *somebody* somewhere probably did, even if it was unpopular or there was excessive risk involved. Humans have always done dumb things in the names of beauty, knowledge, and curiosity, and I fully expect they will continue to do so.

[@roxyortiz8819]

And not to mention *at the time* that was modern, cutting edge, better than ever seen before technology and technique. We just have the luxury of looking at it from a modern lens. What will future peoples say about US I wonder lol

[@tambrabonds950]

​@@roxyortiz8819true! We forget how much hype could exist in ye olden times, whenever we think that is

[@gawd4582]

Is plastic surgery by a board certified doctor "dumb"?

[@AkumakoCross]

Sometimes, yes, and I’m not just talking about cosmetic surgery. People do stupid things, period. They always will, period. Risking your life for vanity by submitting to unneeded surgery in a time when surgery was likely to kill you is absolutely stupid.

[@tambrabonds950]

@@AkumakoCross thank you, like sometimes cosmetic surgery IS stupid. Even though I acknowledge that it can be beneficial and even necessary, it's not always. And then we get into leeching and bloodletting and amputation vs. treatment, bile assessment, etc. And then we get to sunning your butthole, eating only raw fruit and vegetables with no nuts or legumes, Botox that could kill you for wrinkles that everyone develops... Some stuff is dumb, because sometimes the solution is self-acceptance rather than change.

[@blakksheep736]

I love that she's in the mob boss outfit for this one.

[@kenc2257]

She looks really pale in this short, however.

[@deniseulmer642]

It may be the lighting making her look pale. I thought she looked quite good in this short.

[@EmelyPhan]

She reminds me of Emma Stone's Cruella Deville

[@tink6225]

she looks great

[@Butterflier00]

@@kenc2257 i mean....she IS really pale.

[@basicallyno1722]

Yes! Can’t stand to hear people say that they wish were “natural” like the stars of old….yet most were doing plastic surgery

[@carmengogeidnas9670]

Exactly! Marilyn Monroe had a nose job. Much like EVERYONE in Hollywood today. Look up a list of modern celebrities who've had a nose job, it's literally everybody!! It's almost like a right of passage, an unspoken standard

[@arsena5209]

the desire to stay "natural" is perfectly fine and understandable, but I will never understand pretending something is natural to achieve that, if people want to be "natural" there needs to be a stop put to pretending not to have gotten anything done by people who have as well as stop shaming people for getting plastic surgery done for any reason as long as it is to make themselves happy with how they look

[@violett874]

​@arsena5209 That can't happen until people stop valuing natural over unnatural. As long as society values natural beauty above all, which is not a bad thing per se, there will be an incentive to falsely claim natural beauty and shame those who don't possess it. As an aside, it's super weird to me that at the same time we highly value self love/confidence so we don't just shame people for being naturally ugly, we also shame anyone who even cares about being beautiful. There's really no winning.

[@adrianghandtchi1562]

Also, it’s a lot of chronological snobbery involved to think that the past made things very simple when it’s been complicated for a while.

[@AgTheFreeborn]

there are a lot of stars that are aging gracefully. Many of them have had plastic surgery, but with less untensive interventions for the most part. I think it's a fantastic way to touch up, but when you try to recreate your youth completely, it backfires. It's not that it's worse necessarily. It's that excessive use triggers the uncanny valley effect to some degree.

[@kaithdvd]

As an aspiring future doctor, Sewstine is an idol to me. I have so much respect for her being able to pursue her passion as a costuber while also being a medical professional. I know there are a lot of doctor youtubers who do the same thing as her (creating content while having a professional career) but as a historical fashion enthusiast, she's very special to me

[@Sewstine]

Thank you!!!

[@bluebelle9572]

Very interesting, I wish I’d known sooner. Kinda cool 😊

[@emilyx8377]

I didn't know you're a doctor!! Thanks for finding the time to share your interest and expertise in historical costuming and sewing. Doctors are so busy with work that very few of them, it seems, have the time to establish a social media presence related to a hobby, let alone a professional interest. I don't sew at all, but I'm passionate about late 1800s literature, which is how I took an interest in your channel and Bernadette's. @@Sewstine

[@clickclickbangbang]

Likewise there will come a time when people will wonder why in our time we voluntarily undergo procedures that are no doubt much much riskier than what future generations will have. (For example BBL's are the most fatal cosmetic procedure of the current era and yet incredibly popular)

[@mtk77621]

The question I have, why don't we wonder that today? Why don't we question those things right now, while we're in the middle of them, even if it's accepted by society at large?

[@bikerultimate]

​@@mtk77621 Because women are indicated subtly, hinted lightly, and sometimes taught outright that their pain is trivial. Read up on medical treatment disparities, this is systemic and not just cultural. Because they are tougher apparently because of childbirth. 😏

[@derianvandalsen]

John Snow out there altering appearances like a faceless man

[@alexyaparis7134]

After all, Jonh Snow knew something...😅

[@lynettefinnigan9540]

So they tried to fix cleft palette and harelip and such back then!! I guess if someone hadn't started it sometime, we wouldn't have the amazing repair surgeries we have now!!

[@mandalynn252]

I got to visit the spot of the Broad St. Pump in London and read about John Snow. His journey in medicine and public health is crazy fascinating. I did not know he did plastic surgery.

[@rhov-anion]

I recall seeing a 1800s magazine ad, and you could have a nose job or chin tuck for only $50. Of course, that's probably $5000 today, which is comparable to modern plastic surgery costs.

[@RegstarRogstar]

OHHHH WHAT A COLLAB THIS ONE IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Mvnst3r]

The amount of knowledge you give us is astonishing. Thank you

[@MorgothAce6099]

THE KING IN THE NORTH THE KING IN THE NORTH THE KING IN THE NORTH THE KING IN THE NORTH ⚔🐺⚔🐺⚔🐺⚔🐺⚔🐺

[@juleklemmer5647]

Please give us a long version!

[@willmfrank]

The link to the full version is in the description; enjoy.

[@kkemp221]

'Why would anyone voluntarily...' why letting yourself operate on a perfectly healthy body. Operations are ALWAYS a risk. Even in our modern days there is a chance for complications.

[@teachermichelle9632]

He started his practice at The Wall.

[@bernvlogs7391]

Here it is! 😂 I'm shocked I had to scroll so far just to find a GOT reference.

[@baishalideb5565]

the plastic surgeries dates back to the times of sushrut muni ,worlds first surgeon , a saint in olden india...he performed complex neurosurgeries as well as plastic surgeries.its documented in his sushrutsamhita...the modern day surgical instruments are adaptations of his tools ..those are documented too .

[@HolySteavy]

Opposite results in what way?

[@leafmicah8151]

the answer to your question is in the full video on her channel

[@thecolorjune]

One example: Sometimes they’d try and make small lips, whereas rn people usually make larger lips

[@layj1611]

+fuller cheeks were more desired back then because it gave a more youthful appearance and nowadays buccal fat removal is a thing 💀

[@fatoumfatoumeh]

@@layj1611 Small lips and full cheeks were in? I was born in the wrong era.

[@layj1611]

@@fatoumfatoumeh lol, dont worry, they'll come back into style :)

[@PandaMonium92827]

Playing a guy with the name of the father of moder anesthesia, kit Harrington is also descended from John Harrington. The inventor of the flushing toilet 😂 "All the toilets in this kingdom shall be known as...JOHNS!"😂

[@ladycavalier]

It was really weird to not hear a British accent come out of this lady, my mind was thrown lol

[@lolli_popples]

His name is John Snow? That’s free comedy right there-

[@_o6629]

Laughs in shusruta

[@erikaclark3870]

THIS MADE MY DAY. 😅 😊

[@justme_gb]

I'd have to be super ugly to undergo voluntary surgery in the 19th Century!

[@dragonof10jc63]

😂

[@lisaowen6103]

The TV medical drama The Knick touches on medicine practices during that time in history . Along with other subjects of that era. imo a good show.

[@lesyeuxsansvisage1157]

Heads up, I think you mean The Knick, with Clive Owen. Just thought I’d let you know, as it is an excellent recommendation, and I KNOW autocorrect seems to loathe the work “knick.”

[@lisaowen6103]

@@lesyeuxsansvisage1157 yes the Knick . Loved that show.

[@lisaowen6103]

@@lesyeuxsansvisage1157 thanks I made a edit😁

[@redlupo6193]

I learn so much from your vids and shorts, thank you! Come here for the sewing, stay for the education.

[@SarahAbramova]

I was not expecting him to be named John Snow

[@michaelsnider2484]

Used to achieve entirely opposite results such as?

[@rachelppython]

The full length video is super interesting! Highly recommend!

[@LinciCoronado]

I need the full video. Sewstine and Bernadette? The most ambitious crossover of all time.

[@nebucamv5524]

I was very surprised when a few weeks ago I read City of God by Augustine and discovered his descriptions of several surgeries. I mean, it was just the 4th(!) century and they already operated on cancer etc. I was really amazed! 😮

[@windmuser]

I would love to hear more on this.

[@yashipark]

Father of Surgery: Shushruta

[@jennyneedsmeds]

Thank you John snow for making surgery so much less traumatic for us now

[@morg678]

Even the name "plastic" surgery leads to so many misconceptions. I got my breasts removed (with NO IMPLANTS to replace them, mind you) and even that procedure was considered plastic surgery by my insurance. Just removing or reconstructing smth is considered "plastic" for whatever reason

[@e.d.3993]

love your take on this subject!

[@beththegreen]

Also always cracks me up thinking about the many rich Victorians who got nipple piercings

[@BitchyBubblez]

Fun fact!: the first documented case of plastic surgery was a nose job done in 1460 AD. I feel really bad for whoever had that done if they were conscious 😂

[@allieuncharted]

I’m pretty sure that 1847 is in the Victorian era as the Edwardian era doesn’t begin till 1901

[@angrymario8259]

It's lord commander for you

[@dalestaley5637]

I'm an anesthetist. People, like today felt it was safer and more advanced than ever before. People think by comparing time periods when undergoing surgery. Risks and benefits probably weren't described in detail like they are today, where we tell you ALL.

[@frankharr9466]

Sometimes, you have to do what you have to do.

[@BonnieLeeBee]

Forgive me if you have already done a video covering this, but can you do one about the surgeries asked for back then?

[@rachelppython]

There's a full length video on her channel, it is super interesting! Highly recommend giving it a watch!

[@BonnieLeeBee]

Thank you

[@carlyculver184]

Absolutely love this content.

[@goingslowlynowhere]

I do wonder how much of it was willingly though, and how much was ordered by husbands and owners.

[@pencilbender]

To be fair, they didnt _know_ that the medical field was more riskey. For all they knew the medical field was safer than it has ever been before.

[@octavianicole6958]

I love your outfit

[@catherinejustcatherine1778]

How wonderful!

[@Murraysmom2318]

I'm not surprised people would do surgery like this back then. Humans have been doing stuff to alter their physical appearance permanently for hundreds of years. Lotus feet can be used as a prime example. Men and women who did this surgery were most like convinced things were very safe like our doctors do. They didn't have as much understanding of infection risks amongst other factors that made this risky. I think one of the differences is that doctors will inform you of what can happen cause they know now what can happen.

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

John Snow knows a lot about cholera

[@jossue9120]

LOVE your suit

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

Do you have a whole vid for this??? I wanna know🤩🤩🤩

[@lotstodo]

I heard about a doctor using wax as a facial filler. One time sitting in front of a fireplace would make it all slide down and make wax jowls.

[@SUPPLEMENTS_R_US]

It’s Grace form will and Grace 😅

[@babybluesigh]

i thought this was that other girl that asks these really professional people really dumb questions

[@ellendiane27]

Maybe that's why they call it "getting snowed"

[@tintincholin]

I feel nothing John Snow

[@ninaschust3694]

Opus elenae and you are friends ❤. Love it.

[@aaasht2606]

Historycal fashion, you dont question it ...

[@pillbobaggins2766]

i read about Dr Snow huffing nitrous oxide under the table with his mates

[@RollingOnFire]

I loved this video

[@rosealielycan]

Its so funny at our current point in time if we continue on with medical and technological discoveries people in the future would think the exact same of us now

[@mapplemoore197]

Thatd Doctor Sewstine to you!

[@pannacottafUWUgo]

fun fact! the father of modern plastic surgery, harold gillies, also performed the first phalloplasty for a trans man in 1946!

[@yfelwulf]

Correction the 3 Stooges are the fathers of Anasthesia 🔨 the mallet was highly effective. People of any time considered current standards as acceptable it's only looking back we look and say what we're they thinking.

[@yukikun9685]

can someone please share link to longer version?

[@YAWSSSSSS]

You think John snow used snow to knockout his patients

[@sageisbored]

Are we just gonna ignore that name then?

[@stitchgor3]

I would have been so gorgeous back then😢

[@lindaheath784]

Is that how we got the phrase "snowed under "?

[@rachel_Cochran]

Where can I find the whole discussion

[@lifeisbutadreamm]

I would love a longform video about this topic @BernadetterBanner please!! I find this kind of thing super extra fascinating and you're one of my favorite historically knowledgeablr creators

[@danysnow3375]

My 5times great uncle is named John snow

[@wpatrickw2012]

Circumcision has been done for thousands of years, mostly without anesthesia.

[@allergicTOsunhats]

I love the part where you tell us what they were using plastic surgery for.

[@beththegreen]

It's a teaser, the video is on her channel as shown at the end It's too long to fit here in a short

[@allergicTOsunhats]

@@beththegreen I betcha its not lol

[@AvaNightingale]

​​​@@allergicTOsunhatsliterally saw the video, it absolutely is. Venturing an opinion without data is like pissing into a headwind and expecting to not get wet. Should you manage to avoid being doused by your own fluids, it's pure dumb luck!

[@allergicTOsunhats]

Oh my bad that I think that shorts should either have the full info or not any at all. When someone's say "like for part 2" or "find the link in the comment" only makes me want to never see their content again. Make a full video or a short, don't just try to waste people's time.

[@uncreativeprocess]

Modern anaesthesiologists, you know nothing John Snow.

[@caffienatedtactician]

I'm sure people 200 years from now will have similar questions about us! 😂 "Wait, you could be CAUGHT ON FIRE in the OR and people *still* did elective surgeries???"

[@martinemartin4779]

I thought William Morton was the father of anaesthesia...although it might be argued that the Chinese were using anaesthesia 500BC, so who knows.

[@tanviTM]

Plastic surgery was invented in ancient India and often used for cosmetic changes.

[@himanisuri5484]

No they were not used for cosmetic changes mainly

[@baishalideb5565]

it was sushrut muni ...although i dont think it was ever done for cosmetic changes ...the society at that time wasn't that shallow .

[@katharinafeustel5864]

Plastic surgery at least dates back at least half a millennium ago, but I do believe that there must have been procedures even way before that time

[@baishalideb5565]

sushrut muni , a indian saint was the worlds first surgeon ..performed neurosurgeries as well as plastic surgeries..read about him .

[@francevenezia]

"Entirely opposite results"....you mean like making noses bigger rather than smaller?

[@Lee-ox2vn]

Broad Street pump John snow!?

[@rjchavers9267]

BBL isn't worth it today. Too many serious complications.

[@elberethreviewer5558]

Running from the authorities? Facial surgery is an option!

[@angelav9838]

They did not think it was risky at the time. It's what they had.

[@ah5721]

Full video?

[@heatherthomas1659]

Desperate times come for Desperate needs

[@xowarrior]

JOHN SNOW

[@taradid409]

Scary freaky.

[@Rabbit-the-One]

Was that a wild sinistea?

[@GregoryMcBride-qf7hx]

Love where you explain what the opposite results are

[@Zveet]

Sushrutha used wine with incense of cannabis for anaesthesia and there was no literature on anaesthesia anywhere in the world preceding this practice. Sushrutha thus should be called the ‘Father of Anaesthesiology’. He lived in India around 900 BC

[@cyancyborg1477]

Wait that's the handwashing guy.

[@marlenegold280]

Ignaz Semmelweis

[@Shapoufiiie]

How interesting!

[@sourabhjain7639]

What about surgeries performed in INDIA

[@lycanliebt2252]

After being seen committing crimes, criminals would have work done to “get away.”

[@pcbassoon3892]

Is that the same John Snow as the cholera guy?

[@base99498]

Nice broach

[@RJeremyHoward]

You wanna know how I got these scars‽ Jon. Snow.

[@smpsailor]

Is this why we say " he / she is snowed" ? Makes sense now