Edwin Jagger 3One6 vs DE89, Stirling Deep Blue Sea, & Having Some Fun with the Superfriends

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[@pjwroblewski]

Deep Blue Sea has been on my short list for a while.

[@IAMCDB]

It's really nice Patrick. I really enjoyed it:)

[@leventdepevent]

The 3One6 is on my wishlist. Thanks for the video.

[@IAMCDB]

I've really enjoyed using mine Levent.

[@gibsonmac1981]

I dont go by scent notes anymore, there’s been too many times where something I would have thought wasnt for me, going off the notes, that I ended up really liking a lot. Its good to hear you can mitigate the differences in efficiency etc by adjusting your approach, I was speculating that was the case but haven’t used enough de’s to really know if it went beyond the few de’s I have.

[@IAMCDB]

Oh yea, the scent notes will definitely lead you astray at times:) Yes, I've noticed that my comparison shaves come out close almost all the time. This tells me I have to be adjusting as I'm going without knowing I'm doing so:)

[@danilobernaschina1842]

Dear Chris I appreciate that you do not regret or consider the EJ 89 a minor razor. Daily shave for 25 USD and work done. The 316 is material and nicer to see and to handle perhaps, but the basic EJ or Muhle D86 are evergreen, basics, for everybody👍👍🔝

[@IAMCDB]

Yes sir, the EJ DE89 will still get it done:)

[@rodrigogar]

I am glad I found your channel IAMCDB, being watching your latest and past videos. Deep Blue Sea is on my wishlist so this video helps!

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks so much sir, I really appreciate it. I'm glad it helped:)

[@richardb4999]

Nice shave - Agree totally on technique, Milder shaver you just take more strokes (secondary passes) to get to the same result. Adding more water to my lather to match the photo's on your lather and my shaves have improved as the added water increases slickness. Stirling great stuff and totally agree on samples. Bought 9 samples of various scents that I am are great to go through. I would not have been able to buy such a wide range of scents in full tubs.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Richard. I hope you enjoy the samples. Those samples are awesome IMO!

[@The_Spectre.]

The first DE razor I bought was the EJ DE89L. It remains one of my favorite razors. Stirling Deep Blue Sea is one of my favorite shave soaps as well. Thanks for sharing the video, Chris!

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Spectre. I enjoyed everything I used today:)

[@Juraberg]

A nice comparison shave. I do not own a 316, since in my estimation it is too expensive, or not worth its price. I rather chose to buy the KARVE razor and I am glad I did, I love it. And keep in mind that you can buy a Rockwell 6S (including 3 plates) entirely of steel, not just a steel head with aluminium handle, for LESS than an EJ 316. Greetings, Patrick

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Patrick. I like the EJ316 but you're right, it probably could be priced a little better. That said, it's handsome and it works quite well for me.

[@JagannadhGosala]

EJ 316 has both aluminium handle and stainless steel handle versions. The coloured handles are aluminium. All versions cost the same.

[@gohabs365]

My DE 89 on a Maggard MR 5 handle outperforms many of my high-end razors.

[@IAMCDB]

I wouldn't doubt it bro:)

[@davesheppard8797]

Hi Chris, I recently bought the all stainless 3one6 as I heard the balance was better. I don't like them too head heavy. I shaved the same day I received it as I had about 3 days growth. I paired it with a blade I had never used before, the Super shave X blade. I got a super smooth shave and I was still smooth 16 hours later. So I love the 3one6. I also have the polished chrome handled DE89. I haven't used it for ages though. I hope you are well mate. Stay safe Sir! Dave.

[@IAMCDB]

That's awesome to hear Dave. I'm so glad you are enjoying your 3one6. Yea, it's kinda hard to use the DE89 once you have a 3one6:) Have a great day brother!

[@davesheppard8797]

@@IAMCDB Thanks Chris!! 😁😁

[@davesheppard8797]

Oh! I meant to ask if you had tried the Super shave X blades Chris? I found them superb. Like a Nacet but I think a little smoother. Dave 👍👍

[@IAMCDB]

@@davesheppard8797 I can't recall ever having tried them.

[@IAMCDB]

@@davesheppard8797 My pleasure!

[@TBROWN423]

Still have my sample of deep blue sea and I’ll get a whole tub once that’s gone but Sterling does send a great sample size and I’m still using it. Great vid brother.

[@IAMCDB]

Oh yea, their samples are the best in the biz for sure:)

[@TimShaves]

Nice shave Chris! I have to revisit my DE89 soon; It's my first razor and I remember it being really mild. Always enjoy watching Stirling shaves. 👍👍

[@IAMCDB]

It is mild but I bet you can still get a decent shave with it:)

[@jeffdurheim9153]

Those samples are all you need, you can try many scents, and their bar soaps are great also

[@IAMCDB]

They are excellent Jeff, I agree.

[@boostedbliss07MK5]

I can vouch for what u said. Ruffled feathers of not! I didn’t like stirling the 1st few times I used it when I started shaving. It was MY fault. I didn’t hydrate the lather nearly enough. As soon as u add enough hydration u feel the cushion start to form and the lather gets dense. U shouldn’t condemn a soap you did not use correctly! I am now a big stirling fan & find it performs just as well as soaps $10+ per puck more!

[@davidhill3939]

I put my Lupo head on my red 3one6 handle and now have my favorite razor (ebayed the rest). Thanks for the video!

[@IAMCDB]

Ahhh, that sounds pretty good David.

[@nicetna2010]

The DE89 is a fantastic shaver. It works exceptionally well regardless the brand of blade. Imho, it's an automatic inductee into the Shavedom HOF. Thx for the comparison.

[@IAMCDB]

I agree, if there were a shaving HOF it would be in it:)

[@SoSharpDavid]

Finally got to see this videos and yeah its pretty hilarious

[@IAMCDB]

Haha, it was done in good fun:)

[@TallysVids]

I used Stirling on my shave tonight (Executive Man) and the matching balm. Phenomenal soap and the same can be said for the balm. Post shave my skin feels way softer and more soothed than with any other soap, balm I've tried. I have you to thank for making me aware of Stirling soap (as well as the Lancaster Shave Towel 😀👍🏼). There's not a heap of places that stock Stirling in the UK, but there are some.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks so much for this comment. I'm so glad to hear you're enjoying these products.

[@williamcass68]

Nice razors and the scent of the Sterling sounds like something I should check out. Great video! 👍👍

[@IAMCDB]

It's a nice one William.

[@manishbhoola]

Great shave there brother! The 3one6 is an excellent razor. Paired with a Gillette 7 O'Clock Super platinum black blade and slick lather - complete Shave Nirvana ! The high praise for Stirling is very well deserved and it's one of those soaps at the right price point which doesn't push Wet Shaving to an elite category! The praise is well worth stepping on a few toes ;) Really good stuff. Keep those awesome reviews and compares coming. Be safe !

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks so much my friend. What have you been enjoying the most lately?

[@manishbhoola]

@@IAMCDB Mostly vintage straight razors, and triple milled soaps from Razorock, Tabac, MWF, PDP 63, MDC...

[@IAMCDB]

@@manishbhoola Very nice!

[@leehaseley2164]

I bloody love that piss tàke, Chris! Well done. Great shave, and although I have neither of those razors, I love that you do not look down upon the de89 as a "beginner" razor.

[@IAMCDB]

Haha, thanks Lee. I certainly don't look down on the DE89, it still works great for me:)

[@hughneek12]

The DE89 is the razor I would recommend to any beginner and as a razor for life. I've got two and they are amongst the last I would sell. Great product.

[@galenhuff8267]

Great comparison on the Edwin Jagger.. Last month I sold off a few of my DE for a new DE that I have on order. It's about an 8 week lead time on getting this razor and I am thinking I will have it end of September if I am lucky. With that said, the DE89 that I started this with is the only non vintage razor I now own. Over the last decade or so I have only picked this razor back up a handful of times and only keep it due to the fact it was my first DE razor. My thinking was I can grunt it out with this razor for a couple months. I have to say, I really have been enjoying the shaves and it will not be the chore to use I made it out to be. Great jabs at Chris and the Chief I have noticed the same things you mentioned.. I appreciated not being hit with a hammer about value VS perception blah.

[@IAMCDB]

Yes sir, the DE89 will still get the job done. Thanks for your constructive comment regarding luxury vs value. You're right, we've debated that one thoroughly. I hope you didn't mind the poking fun though:)

[@LordSHADY]

LOL!! The accents you made tho!!! HAHA! I love Jack and Corey, and the fact that they have different views from the majority, makes for great debates.

[@IAMCDB]

I enjoy watching them as well sir. They say things that often lead to productive debates in the community.

[@androxavanti]

Soon enough Jack and Chief will have their periods synced

[@CoreyS816]

Funny you should mention that.... I was a bit early this month 😉

[@androxavanti]

@@CoreyS816 That's less stressful than being late, I suppose 😂

[@IAMCDB]

Ohhhh...... I wouldn't go that far now. Their bond is strong but I'm not sure it gets to that level.

[@TakeCareMan]

🤣

[@Samuel-ge7im]

Hey Chris good to see you again.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks so much Sam!

[@chrisspertos4849]

Hello Chris, so many good razors out there. I think that if you are a daily shaver, a mild shaver like a EJ89, Merkur 34c or a Muhle R89 will be perfect. I believe that a mild shaver with a 3 pass shave can shave any beard type and length. Especially if you drop a sharp blade in. Anyway good seeing you shave again.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Chris. I think for the most part you are correct. Every now and then someone has a special use case but these razors would probably be ok for the bulk of shavers.

[@chrisspertos4849]

@@IAMCDB 👍

[@mellymelshaves]

Hi Chris! You got me intrigued about the Deep Blue Sea by Stirling. Sounds like a scent I may like.

[@IAMCDB]

It's a nice one Mel!

[@bourbon646]

@@IAMCDB hey friend, I have a big problem. I started shaving in 2015. I didn't know what's a WTG, XTG and ATG. So I just used a cheap safety razor and a cheap blades in 2015. I did passes from all directions. On the right side of my facebive got a lot of ingrown hairs. Never knew what it was. I would bleed a little and it would sting me badly in that area after the shave. I didn't have bumps there. But my hair in that area would grow in circular formats. Earlier it was straight up to Down. Did a little research and came to know that its ingrown hair. Some said just doing a WTG shave would heal it in the longer run. I've been doing WTG shave since 2017. The situation and the buring had become much less. But still the ingrown hairs were still there. I cant even do a cross grain in that area. It becomes red. Since Jan 2020 I started using a trimmer that has really improved the situation. I dont shave now. I will only start shaving after the situation becomes better and that circular hair growth vanishes from that area. Do you know what to do to cure ingrown hairs? There isnt much information available on the net. Some of it sounds dubious!

[@BrettzGaming56]

@@bourbon646 unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a ton of info on this. Maybe your skin is just more susceptible to ingrowns. My skin gets pretty sensitive in the colder winter months. I know it is really annoying to get bad shaves, then come to the internet and it seems like everyone's shaves are going perfectly, even with aggressive razors. Maybe try a really mild razor like one of the vintage Gillette tech's? Also, be sure not to use too steep of an angle and too much pressure with the razor. Set it to where the razor blade is perpendicular to your face, then tilt the handle slightly upwards just until it starts to cut and try a pass WTG. Also, using a mild astringent such as alum or witch hazel with alcohol might help a little. Good luck, mate.

[@bourbon646]

@@BrettzGaming56 thanks man! Shaving with the grain also hasn't helped. I cant see the grain pattern in that area properly as hair grows in all directions there. That's mainly because of ingrown hairs. Using trimmers have helped a lot. I can see the grain more clearly now. Still a few places the grain grows in wierd directions. That's not natural because my grain was up to down in all places. Its wierd to explain this. My barber actually told me not to do a clean shave on that area. He said that when guys have circular hair patterns it always gives them cuts and bleeds. That was his observation after working.

[@BrettzGaming56]

@@bourbon646 I agree with your barber. It might be better to just use the trimmer and sacrifice a super close shave. I know I would definitely be doing that if I suffered from ingrowns. Have you ever tried a pre-shave? Many people claim they don't do a whole lot, but personally, I think they give me a little more lubrication, YMMV. There are many kinds: Oils, gels, soaps, and more. Proraso makes a wonderful pre-shave cream that is widely available internationally. It comes in the green jar (menthol and eucalyptus, smells like Vick's vapor rub), red jar (sandalwood), and white jar (for sensitive skin). I would give the white a try, or green if you like menthol. The green is pretty cold feeling.

[@dimitardimitrov5366]

Awesome comparison!

[@IAMCDB]

Thank you very kindly sir!

[@bendycard]

Nice shave Chris, that was funny. 😌 I like that they both approach the hobby in a way that is different to a lot of us, there’s definitely more than one way. 😌👍

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Dave. I agree, their approach is different and that's what makes it enjoyable.

[@RKinNJ]

LMFAO you got me crying over here listening to you go at Jack and Chief Much love to you bro!

[@IAMCDB]

Haha, thanks Ray!

[@carlitos_shaves]

To me the 3 one six is more comparable to the Razorock Game Changer (.84). Great video Chris 👊🏽

[@IAMCDB]

I think that's a good comparison Carlitos. I might have to run those two head to head one day and see what happens:)

[@Fernando-fr5cu]

Stirling, Mike's Naturals, Shannon's, Soap Commander and Razorock, best bang for your buck.

[@IAMCDB]

Oh yea, all of these offer great value for your money.

[@ChrisGarciaorlzzt]

I actually had to lol when you did your Brit accent for Jack and the Corey "alpha" take... DBS is a great scent.. My younger son loved that one. The Chanel cologne on which it's based is beautiful. Thanks for the video (and the laugh 😂)

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Chris. Thanks for the package as well, I'm saving it for the next unboxing.

[@ChrisGarciaorlzzt]

@@IAMCDB as always, the choice to use (and/or broadcast results) is entirely at the discretion of yourself. I wish I had an atomizer or something to send you one of the splashes... I have work to do.... 🤔

[@IAMCDB]

@@ChrisGarciaorlzzt I love to use these samples for head shaves:)

[@danielsbackforty8094]

I enjoy my EJ3ONE6. Just wish it had a little more weight to it.

[@IAMCDB]

I like it as well. You could always pair it with a heavier handle I guess.

[@davesheppard8797]

Hi Daniel, I bought the all stainless 3one6 and the weight and balance are much better. The coloured handles are nice but are high quality aluminium. I love the red one but wanted all stainless. Best wishes, Dave.

[@IAMCDB]

@@davesheppard8797 I really enjoy the razor. It's pretty nice IMO.

[@JMac.]

Great shave Chris! Hard to beat a DE 89(if you like a mild razor) it’s actually my cleanup razor for the straight razor shaves at the moment. In fact, I always keep a mild DE kicking around for the cleanups. I’ve heard that the 3one6 was a bit more aggressive which is great for those looking for more efficiency out of an Edwin Jagger. Have a great evening my friend!

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Justin. I bet you're still in the afterglow of that razor you were using yesterday:)

[@JMac.]

IAMCDB you’re most welcome Chris! And I am lol..... definitely still thinking about her, have been working on a presentation box for it today lol.

[@IAMCDB]

@@JMac. Nice!

[@JMac.]

IAMCDB yep! I didn’t have a choice... it’s so big it won’t fit in my straight razor storage lol.

[@IAMCDB]

@@JMac. A fella has to do what a fella has to do:)

[@Matteo-sc2lz]

Nice shave cris! I would love,to be part to this community

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks so much Matteo, I appreciate it.

[@axelcielo3359]

I appreciate Stirling's very affordable price point, simple ingredients and extended arsenal of scents but my face doesn't want cooperate with the soap. I don't get any irritation or discomfort but will activate an over production of sebum on my face and brake the lather before I even start shaving.

[@IAMCDB]

Hey Axel. This is an excellent comment and an example of someone with a rather special use case. We don't talk about it often but use case is always an important thing to consider. Nothing works perfectly for everyone across the board.

[@TheShavingTulsan]

They have a new beeswax soap base, have you tried that by chance?

[@ianc1638]

Chris I’ve got my first Cube 2.0 on the way and as a bit of a frugal minimalist do you think I could get away with it as a daily shaver? I’ve previously used all the cheap shave sticks under the sun with great success and prefer to spend big on my splashes and hardware. Thanks!

[@TheShavingTulsan]

You can 100% get away with it as a daily shave soap! The Cube is very versatile

[@ianc1638]

The Shaving Tulsan thanks man. I love your channel too!

[@IAMCDB]

I have used it by itself for shaving several times and it worked just fine:)

[@ianc1638]

IAMCDB thanks boss. Can’t wait to give it a go!

[@jesserlund1339]

Love Stirling Soaps, maybe The Deep Blue Sea will be next. I been looking at buying the 3 One 6, the price has held me back.

[@IAMCDB]

You kind go wrong with Stirling:)

[@johnshaves1996]

this scent is pretty awesome I have a splash sample. Need a tub! 3ONE6 shaves pretty great

[@IAMCDB]

Hey John. I agree, it's good stuff all around:)

[@shave326]

Funny I thought you were going to go another direction with this video: a cheaper razor vs a more expensive one...I was almost TrIgGeReD because Corey and I were just talking about how the DE89 is a good razor 🤣 Had some good laughs regarding our favorite synchronized swimmers

[@IAMCDB]

I still enjoy the DE89 for a shave now and then. It still gets the job done. I''d pick the 3One6 if I had to choose between the two but I still like both.

[@aqtor]

I had a good laugh as well ... but it was pretty provoking at the same time. The comment about the life stories and Jack pulling his shirt off .... hmmmm ... that had a bit of spice. Lets see if Corey and Jack are having fun with IAMCDB now.

[@IAMCDB]

@@aqtor They did do the life stories at roughly the same time:) It's all in good fun. I definitely deserve a good poking back:)

[@bronzedragon18]

My other issue with EJ razors is their high price relative to their competitors IMHO.

[@IAMCDB]

I can understand that.

[@barbusthecompany9265]

Hello big Dude, you can't sleep Master shave?? Great shave Man

[@IAMCDB]

I can't sleep, I have to answer to the shave.

[@barbusthecompany9265]

@@IAMCDB Ok your Hobby plus Advertising I know

[@nydieselinfl]

Yes sir!!!

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks you.

[@nydieselinfl]

Can you do a comparison video between the 3one6 and the Muhle Rocca please? I'd love to get your feedback on how they compare side by side.

[@デイブ-k9e]

The V4 of the Rocca ist a touch more direct but otherwise very similar in efficiency while being very smooth with a touch of blade feel. Both punch way above their price point.

[@IAMCDB]

I don't have the Rocca but if I ever happen to have one I'll give it a go.

[@GeorgeKanatas]

@@IAMCDB Chris, a comparison with 0.84 gamechanger would be interesting. If you put Rex Envoy in the mix too, that would be even more interesting.

[@carlitos_shaves]

👍🏽

[@IAMCDB]

@@GeorgeKanatas Good ideas sir.

[@alanh8101]

They are both Great Guys as I seen Jack and Chief...very true and it’s funny and great 👍🏼👍🏼 Chief reminds me of some guy from Lockheed Martin who flew F117 and few Blackbirds every time I see him man I know this guy..lol And I told Corey listen man I don’t like to call you chief last time personally guy call me chief I called him ass I find that offensive to me at least lol.. Great chat 👍🏼 Alan H

[@IAMCDB]

Hahahah, thanks Alan. That's pretty funny.

[@alanh8101]

IAMCDB I took a picture of one of my Original Posters signed by SR-71 pilot check out imgur my name AlanH81 you’ll see it’s for Corey... Great topic tho very funny and they are great guys with Humour Alan H

[@IAMCDB]

@@alanh8101 ahhhh, I see.

[@banockabrunette1749]

lol funny video. keep up the great work

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Banocka.

[@akashpatel8399]

How this razor compares with RR GC 68 & Lupo 72 SS

[@IAMCDB]

It's probably more akin to the Lupo 72. It's medium aggressive but a nice smooth shaver.

[@bronzedragon18]

I briefly considered the &DE89, until I read several reports about the screw breaking off in the handle. This might be pardonable in a ~$15 razor but not in a $30 razor.

[@IAMCDB]

I certainly understand that.

[@TADDs101]

I have used a DE89 for over 7yrs now and it's still like new, the problem lies when guys think they have to crank the handle on as tight as possible then it weakens the threaded stud part in time. For my money i don't think you can beat a EJ89

[@dk.damnfineshave]

You had me cracking up! 🤣

[@IAMCDB]

I was hoping people would take it that way:)

[@peterbdavies]

I have and love the DE89. I am considering getting the 3ONE6. Is it worth it?

[@kostasvasilioy2308]

Hello my friend,I want to ask you what is inside the spray bottle ,my favourite razor is de 86bl

[@IAMCDB]

If it's before passes it's just water. Just before the aftershave it's thayer's witch hazel.

[@chrisspertos4849]

Hello Chris, another good side by side vid. I would've preferred the 3one6 vs. the gamechanger 84 side by side comparison. Let me ask which one do find a smoother razor between the 3one6 and the gamechanger 84?! Thank you

[@IAMCDB]

I can't say to be honest. Both are very smooth for me.

[@chrisspertos4849]

@@IAMCDB ok thanks Chris👍

[@IAMCDB]

@@chrisspertos4849 You are most welcome sir.

[@ghelley]

Great comparison video 👍 👍 Stirling for the win .😊 😊 Stay Safe and Mist On...........................💦💦🦑🦑

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks GSM!

[@Bob-Horse]

Yes, I was expecting more talk about the razors etc. not Jack and....

[@IAMCDB]

Sorry to disappoint.

[@alanh8101]

Hi Chris Great Video 👍🏼💈haven’t tried many Stirling soaps have to save up and get best one by Stirling... Let me know which ones you think it’s Best by Stirling... Take care Alan H

[@IAMCDB]

It's impossible for me to say which one is the best because scent is subjective. Executive Man is their best selling soap of all time.

[@alanh8101]

IAMCDB They all make outstanding products Stirling and will order something maybe executive man heard it’s great scent like Creed.. Take care Alan H

[@IAMCDB]

@@alanh8101 it's a darned good one sir!

[@alanh8101]

IAMCDB I would like to ask you since you have more experience regarding wolf whiskers brush you have 3 of them and two are Plisson knots if I’m correct where do you get em or can Peter get it?? I have Yaqi black knight brush look like Plisson but not sure if Yaqi make Plisson quality tho? Anyhow tell me your advice or maybe Peter have good knots too.. Alan H

[@IAMCDB]

@@alanh8101 you get on the waitlist at this site when it opens up: www.wolfwhiskers.com/

[@spyrosyannaras8953]

Does the 3one6 gives a shave as smooth as the Karve does? Thank you !

[@IAMCDB]

Both are very smooth shavers for me. The Karve offers more options so it's more versatile.

[@spyrosyannaras8953]

@@IAMCDB Thank you very much!

[@IAMCDB]

@@spyrosyannaras8953 My pleasure.

[@kirkbac]

what liquid is in the mister Chris?

[@IAMCDB]

At the end it's witch hazel. When I'm wetting my face it's just plain tap water.

[@scottbruce8951]

316 is on my short list of future razors. Been watching you since the TSE days. Just started my own channel and would appreciate some feedback. Check out BrownBag Gentleman.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks so much sir, I really appreciate it. I subbed.

[@billgarci]

Portland is a quirky place??? Maybe you meant to say a mostly peaceful place. 🤕

[@IAMCDB]

Could very well be. They market the city as being a little different though.