Eel Dealings | Chapo Trap House | Episode 486 FULL

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"We ring in the New Years with Trump’s second perfect phone call, Andrew Cuomo as Liberal Trump, Pelosi’s re-election, and end with some discourse on The Discourse."
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[@shayZero]

Ive just discovered this podcast this week. Glad to have something to listen to during lockdown

[@TheFreemanAlways]

please start listening to Matt Christmans cushvlogs on here, they are a perfect chaser for chapo. less cynical and jokey more sincere and emocional

[@eriknelson9490]

@@TheFreemanAlways way more high, and philosophical

[@dsadawrware]

for a superior social commentary, watch the (ignore the name, I swear its very mature) Cum Town podcast, you will get top political analysis

[@albertseverino5576]

@@dsadawrware True and you will become gay as a consequence

[@jackperdue5127]

Yes, I will also put in my recommendation for Cum Town. It’s a little high brow for some people, but very deep and intellectual.

[@Hud23]

Bring back the Grim Reaper, chillin

[@No.0.o.0]

just open a different tab?

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@@No.0.o.0 No

[@alexracy9165]

As a listener to both shows, hearing the chapo boys talk about the mbmbam boys was like watching two planets run into each other

[@daysjours]

Which other show are you referencing...?

[@alexracy9165]

@@daysjours my brother, my brother and me. They talk about it during the bean dad bit

[@BlaissezFaire9940]

"I could care less about social media" Banned from Twitter a week later.. 😠😠😠😡😡😡😠😠😡😤😤😵😵😠😡😡😡

[@nathanswann1198]

"....theyll stop drinking on their SSRIs....." -FELIX

[@flimflam6652]

We're living in a neoliberal hell

[@RH-ng9qm]

Hotter, while at the same time colder, and darker, by the day.

[@jooosiii01]

Cuomo's campaign slogan should be "Hope and Catch 22"

[@EsplodingBomb]

That Ol' Gill Trump impression was spot fucking on

[@GordonFreemayne]

24:53 well, smallpox is pretty chilling to see, so of course everyone would rush for a chance to avoid it

[@alex-qd6of]

I hope they publicly post their take on the capitol riot

[@berdyderg900]

They released a premium episode about it last night (they're all free on reddit/blackwolffeed)

[@jonsmith9838]

@@berdyderg900 saw it, there takes rather questioble on this one

[@daysjours]

@@berdyderg900 I am so dumb. Can you clarify how you can get the episodes for free..? I went to what you wrote and did not see it!

[@berdyderg900]

@@daysjours idk how explicit we can be with links here, the subreddit is /r/blackwolffeed and there's just one post per episode with a download link

[@daysjours]

@@berdyderg900 Many thanks! I tried and the download on my Chromebook said it would take 7 hours! What??!! Is that the case when you download? Appreciate so much your help

[@KarmaPaym3ntPlan]

1:03:27 the way Felix said “yeah, that’s true” got me

[@jonathannathan1754]

“If you’re Borat-“ “I am” shouldn’t be as funny as it is

[@averyterribleperson5292]

its funny you talked about the president committing crimes, there are masks of presidents in the game Payday 2 and all of them are called criminals in the flavor text

[@kambion]

Wait... so it's not just a grift? Damn. And I trusted you guys.

[@samswoman2009]

Jesus, cuomo with that fucking list. Please, please don't run in 24.

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

When forums went mainstream and became filled with the worst sort of nerds.

[@ANTIStraussian]

Well every September new nerds would join when they went to college in the early to mid 90s. Then when AOL disks went out everyone came on all at once. Every month new people. They called it the eternal September.

[@jordans6211]

god i never want these guys to roast me, i'm so glad i have so little ambition and it will only happen in my nightmares

[@retroactivehistory]

Is this a reupload?

[@mimikyuliker946]

Terrifying future: Andrew Coumo and Mitt Romney vs Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon

[@freakyzed8467]

Celebrity Deathmatch? I am up for that.

[@berdyderg900]

Unironically give me that, accelerationism is the only way

[@grahamcarpenter691]

Ohhhh boy I can’t wait for the episode they do about the coup. I’m so excited

[@skeletorpfunk6342]

Cuomo seems like a slightly more coherent Robert durst

[@davidhill2020]

Trump didn't say "excuse me" because he farted. He says it because someone was trying to interject and he famously doesn't like listening to anyone.

[@robertfreitag687]

Matt Re: @ 47:00 where you write off the squad's Pelosi vote as meaningless, you're missing the point. It's not about influencing the outcome of that vote. It's about exhibiting the kind of consistent principled behavior that builds movements. We all know Pelosi's final term is going to be an absolute fucking disaster, so this is not even a gamble. Voting against her in both rounds would have signaled to everyone that the squad represent a credible alternative. Yet another opportunity missed. They get so few opportunities, it's just about a war crime that they wasted this one.

[@the-craig]

And what value would that signal be? What strategic role would it serve?

[@robertfreitag687]

@@the-craig Are you shitting me? You honestly don't see the value in the moral high ground in building a mass movement? Fer realz?

[@WanderingIdiot81]

One year anniversary of the progressives voting for Nancy Pelosi and getting NOTHING in return! One year of the progressives FAILING to use leverage at every turn! ForceTheVote was correct AF, and we've been proven right all year!

[@seancondon146]

Ah cmon guys how could you not like Nancy Pelosi I’ve heard you empathise with Michael Corleone 😢😂

[@berdyderg900]

29:30 Felix manifesting reality

[@josiahjindrich7874]

The order of who gets the vaccine first is strategic for the most prevention of spread

[@PeruvianTreeProductions]

Where’s ep 485?

[@alex-qd6of]

Hidden from we plebes.

[@psmt1234]

@@alex-qd6of Eh...you look hard enough, not really even that hard, and it's out their.

[@eriknelson9490]

Where is hunter?

[@axes3562]

Black wolf feed

[@ewetoo]

join me in the vapourwave mr chapo

[@jtbfii]

This aged well

[@flashcloud666]

wut? This is only a few days old.

[@zainmudassir2964]

@DPRK-pop fan when?

[@enjikap1217]

worst part of phili laying down like they did was they did it with WASHINGTON! the most shameful of acts

[@enjikap1217]

also extremely funny hearing them trash mbmbam because it is true, but a bit of pot calling the kettle black lmao

[@welcometosociety3399]

Bin 'em boys..

[@philippedesruisseaux5621]

Christman is a temple

[@wrathofkaneeighty8]

35:21

[@damion2226]

The smug, loud guy, ranting about the intent of the squad, etc. is simply wrong on this. The whole idea is that people could hold their vote for Nancy Pelosi in exchange for something, which they didn't do or seem to try, especially since they campaigned on medicare for all. A majority of the country including some conservatives wants some type of healthcare/medicare for all system. How much more "will" do you need to start the ball rolling dude?

[@the-craig]

Can you tell me what a failed floor vote would tell us that we don't already know? If there are fake co-signers to the bill right now, they could safely cast a fake yes vote during a vote that's going to fail anyway

[@robertfreitag687]

@@the-craig Here's what the failure to even stage a vote did tell us: The squad aren't willing to even make a symbolic gesture towards their stated goals, even when there is absolutely no cost to doing so. AOC is never going to get her prized committee chair. You know that. I know that. The whole world knows that. Pelosi has never made her deep hatred of AOC a secret. Convincing herself that she has some incrementalist shot at the Cursus Honorum is just an exercise in willful ignorance. A lot of politics is performative, just making a commitment to the group, demonstrating trustworthiness, not achieving an immediate substantive result. That's not 'nothing', it's just the un-glamorous part of the job she signed up for. If the squad aren't going to do even this easiest part of the job of building a true Left coalition, I have to conclude that they are either hopelessly incompetent or hopelessly insincere.

[@damion2226]

@@robertfreitag687 Way better said than I could've Robert. Cheers.

[@robertfreitag687]

@Julian Pasqual You're missing a couple critical points. First, everyone knows that the # 1 priority in building a mass movement (one among many, but the first in sequence) is to get media attention. With AOC and the squad wasting precious bandwidth, the task of building a genuine Leftist movement becomes more and more difficult. It's not just that they're they're wrong, it's that they're getting in the way of a real solution. That's incredibly relevant. Second, which is a matter of debate out of the scope of this discussion of the squad, is whether a labor movement really is the most effective path forward for Leftist populism. Yang is controversial for a lot of well-founded reasons, but I don't think it can be seriously contested that his analysis of labor relations is fundamentally correct, at least in the context of the current size of the labor supply. Technology and global economic integration mean that the supply of labor is far too large with respect to the number of required laborers for any labor movement to exert much political leverage. I see no events suggesting to me that this trend is going to reverse itself anytime in the foreseeable future. That sucks because, lacking a clear model we can pull from history in order to create an effective Left populist movement today, we have to spend a lot of time inventing one. This is my bottom line: The Left needs real leadership. The squad ain't it, and they're just wasting everyone's time.

[@WanderingIdiot81]

@@the-craig I love this "we already know who supports M4A" line that your Jacobin hipsters always repeat. 1: who's the "we" in question? It's just those in the leftwing bubble! 2: we DIDN'T know who was actually for M4A before, because we learned that the progressives are just pretenders

[@meganvhhbbigvj9399]

Andrew Cuomo is in the Epstein black book :')

[@tomax9003]

Woohoooooo, First! My fav rift.

[@nissarevane4724]

My Brother, My Brother and Me is indeed hosted by a handful of soy boys making goofs and spoofs but not really saying anything of real substance or affecting the world in any meaningful way. It's basically Chapo.

[@MrRockrazer]

lmao, my thoughts exactly.

[@berdyderg900]

Is virgil dead?

[@jackgallegos5246]

He's doing the bad faith podcast now

[@berdyderg900]

@@jackgallegos5246 I have only heard strongly negative things about it and Grey so I haven't tried it. If he never returned to chapo it'd be whatever, I just wish her could take amber with him.

[@just4fun6671]

@@berdyderg900 Bad Faith is a very good show

[@HardenJID]

@@just4fun6671 if you wanna bury the left lmao

[@just4fun6671]

@@HardenJID Explain yourself. I think it's fine

[@AloisWeimar]

Make the sale Gil, make the sale

[@heidimelcarek3677]

47:09 - Like the TEA party. But Matt! Isn't that what the 'woke mob' is...? There is a movement. It's just not structured under something like the DSA. So the fuck what...? The DSA kinda sucks.

[@berdyderg900]

Woke mob is just libs who want to feel like they're not actively causing thee world to collapse. That isn't a politically viable movement, to "fix" american politics you're going to need hundreds of thousands and and willing to die, electoralism isn't doing shit for us.

[@meganvhhbbigvj9399]

@@berdyderg900 Exactly!!! There's no point saying hold people accountable who didn't believe about the coup happening what we need is extreme leftists who do shit not liberals clutching their pearls about the US empire collapsing

[@snot2late]

what about abortion??????