EEVblog 1540 - The $80 Zotek ZT-702S Osciloscope Multimeter REVIEW

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@zotekmultimeters4774
@zotekmultimeters4774 Жыл бұрын
Nice review! Thank you Dave! Actually, this was the first version Dave tested. However, we have since addressed several bugs and made upgrades to the instrument.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Is this a firmware update I can apply?
@zotekmultimeters4774
@zotekmultimeters4774 Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog😀
@zotekmultimeters4774
@zotekmultimeters4774 Жыл бұрын
sorry, I am afraid it is not a firmware update yet. But I can send you an updated sample if you like.
@zotekmultimeters4774
@zotekmultimeters4774 Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog
@zotekmultimeters4774
@zotekmultimeters4774 Жыл бұрын
And the user can apply a firmware update with the new version.
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 Жыл бұрын
Dave, please do more testing on this unit on your 2nd channel. Also please do more testing of "cheap" test gear!
@rocketman221projects
@rocketman221projects Жыл бұрын
That doesn't seem too bad for the price. It's nice they used an 18650 in a holder instead of a custom lipo that will puff up in a year or two.
@pburgvenom
@pburgvenom Жыл бұрын
Puff up like a hollywood actress’ lips
@WooShell
@WooShell Жыл бұрын
Since the 10A range is essentially just a shunt over the mA sensing circuit, it's actually quite common for cheaper full-digital meters to show a reading in the mA range when attaching current to the 10A range. All the setting does is replace the mathematical scaling on the output value. Nothing to worry about. Teaches you to check twice what range you're in, especially when reading unexpected values. Also, reviews of affordable measuring kit is definitely appreciated. Much more useful than teardowns of multi-thousand dollar gear.
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a couple of meters that use two shunts in series and you can get confused on the mA an A settings since both appear to show a reading. You can fix this by simply blowing the fuse and the only the A terminal works, thus fixing your problem.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
Same thing on lots of old instruments. Moving your probe to the 10x input doesn't change the indications, it just scales the signal.
@ploed
@ploed 10 ай бұрын
Yes please more Low Budget Reviews, not everyone has the budget for such big equipment.
@jessicav2031
@jessicav2031 Жыл бұрын
1:18 Because Zotek is not a member of the TMA. Thank goodness we have non-monopoly manufacturers to supply us with illicit switchable probes.
@hoverbovver
@hoverbovver Жыл бұрын
Why are they illicit?
@qzorn4440
@qzorn4440 Жыл бұрын
Hobby world stuff. 🥰
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis Жыл бұрын
@@hoverbovver Big oscilloscope are trying to make switchable probes obsolete using some very dubious arguments (including "muh environmental crisis"). The biggest takeaway seems to be that they'll be able to sell more single range probes.
@ScottGrammer
@ScottGrammer Жыл бұрын
@@hoverbovver Jessica V is making reference to an April Fools video where it was said that switchable scope probes had been banned.
@transmitterguy478
@transmitterguy478 Жыл бұрын
I'm 64 and I dreamed of a device like that in the 70s. I think it's a great tool for the beginner or in my garage doing auto diagnostics. The price is unbeatable. I've worked with and owned many Fluke meters over the years and they ALL have quirks too, you just gotta get used to them. The scope function would be great for car audio hum tracking. If you run over it with the big ole truck you are not out that much money compared to a $1000 Fluke. I will probably buy one to play with.
@killer2600
@killer2600 Жыл бұрын
70's? This tool at this price was a dream even 20 years ago.
@change_your_oil_regularly4287
@change_your_oil_regularly4287 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be great in the shed for general automotive use
@shaunmorrissey7313
@shaunmorrissey7313 Жыл бұрын
For anyone that is interested, after the latest firmware update it now boots into the mode it was in when you shut it down. it no longer defaults to oscilloscope mode.
@relutzzzu
@relutzzzu 5 ай бұрын
Where can we get firmware updates from?
@WereCatf
@WereCatf Жыл бұрын
As someone on a shoestring budget, I'll chime in as someone who is always on the lookout for useable, cheap tools, since you asked. I don't know if you find the topic interesting yourself, but I would appreciate taking a look on more budget-friendly tools.
@kaziq
@kaziq Жыл бұрын
16:30 They don't have probe insert detection, so the meter has no way to tell if you have the probe in the A or mA socket. That's why you have to select the proper mode yourself. Physically disconnecting all the wrong sockets in each mode would be too expensive. Like with any normal DMM you could have the probe in the volts socket while having it switched to amps, and you will just get zero value, because the switch physically disconnects the volt socket. This meter doesn't have a physical switch. Also they have put the sticker, because they cannot detect the probe in the amps socket while measuring voltage.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science Жыл бұрын
I agree with Dave that this is not acceptable. There are many solutions to this problem, some of which will be pretty cheap to implement. You dont need to physically disconnect everything for that.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the point is it's bad design to have a meter that's capable of giving you a wildly wrong reading like this. I have not traced out the circuit to know exactly why it's doing this, but no meter design should deliberately give false readings.
@MrAwyork
@MrAwyork Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be easy enough to tell which one is powered and buzz like hell if it's the wrong one?
@SAerror1
@SAerror1 Жыл бұрын
You probably don't need to electrically disconnect the wrong socket, just move the current mode selection buttons inside the socket so it automatically picks the right one when you insert a cable. That would also give them the ability to beep and put an even bigger DO NOT MEASURE VOLTAGE WITH THIS HOLE warning on the display whenever you plug something in :)
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius Жыл бұрын
They don't need to detect where the probe is, just select which input they're measuring. They don't even need to switch the load to do this. Just use a relay of some type to select which current shunt that's being connected to the ADC. This would then show 0 A/mA when the wrong range is selected. This would be better than showing a completely bogus value with a large magnitude.
@electrifyingvids3545
@electrifyingvids3545 Жыл бұрын
It's quite amazing that we went from "Pocket" oscilloscopes from the 1970s and 1990s such as the Tektronix 200 series that cost thousands USD to less than 80 today!
@runforitman
@runforitman Жыл бұрын
the fact its actually a removable 18650 and not a soldered on silver li-ion bag with no markings on it is great i first thought "oh, rechargeable, so very limited life without modification." but that is a really good implementation only better way would be to put an easy to access door on it 😉
@paolomartini150
@paolomartini150 Жыл бұрын
Right. One could swap it with a charged cell in a zip.
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 10 ай бұрын
Great for us vape mod box users lol
@ivolol
@ivolol Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely amazing how if you don't over-advertise your product's specifications by 10x, suddenly Dave doesn't think it's absolute trash. Boggles the mind.
@zanpekosak2383
@zanpekosak2383 Жыл бұрын
I mean, dont we all agree? If you know what you are buying, you at least wont be disappointed when you can plan ahead and decide if the device is for you.
@TesserId
@TesserId Жыл бұрын
Spent so many decades craving my own Tektronix o-scope, I'm totally jealous of today's young electronics hobbyists.
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 10 ай бұрын
free trade baby
@X8051
@X8051 11 ай бұрын
Newly launched ZT-703S (3 in 1) 1.All-in-One Device: Oscilloscope, signal generator, and multimeter. 2.High Precision: 50MHz bandwidth, 280MSa/s sampling rate. 3.Clear Display: 3.5-inch IPS color screen. 4.Ease of Use: Intuitive interface, user-friendly. 5.Portable Design: Compact, lightweight, ideal for field use.
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff Жыл бұрын
6:07 that screw looks like it bypasses most of the creepge distance from the input socket
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Doesn't look good. You'd have to trace it out to see how those traces are actually used though. But your working assumption has to that it's poor layout.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It is very close to those traces. There needs to be a plastic washer underneath it.
@ikocheratcr
@ikocheratcr Жыл бұрын
They could "easily" fix it with a plastic/nylon screw. Still, not great design.
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын
Should have an insulating washer under it, right?
@Mr.Unacceptable
@Mr.Unacceptable Жыл бұрын
My little scope works well for use on site. Drones and RC car issues. Works as a multimeter so don't have to carry both. I've only needed the scope function twice testing PWM and RF output. but nice to have. Other fliers that borrowed it liked it 2 of the group bought one. Can't have enough scopes. Also another time I used it for an FM transmitter I use for portable dive in movie nights and needed to find out what was up with it. Drive out somewhere dark and put up a screen if not a wall and make popcorn, eat licorice with a cooler full of pops and watch a double feature. Pop the projector on the roof plugged into a battery bank for 2-3 movies. FM transmitter plays the audio on an FM channel on everyone's radio. Invite friends or post on social for people to meet up.
@tangomonky7
@tangomonky7 Жыл бұрын
For a DIY hobbyist this thing is pretty sweet honestly.
@LarsBgildThomsen
@LarsBgildThomsen Жыл бұрын
At 20:48 - talking trigger level. I've seen that on some of those cheap scopes and those had a way of calibrating. Check the manual :)
@stefanbruns6209
@stefanbruns6209 Жыл бұрын
And Dave gets the clearance wrong again (6:50) ... - You *don't* need clearance between traces at the same voltage level. The screw can not be touched from the outside, and is far away from the Common trace - You *dont* need clearance between Common and the *fused protected* Current trace (only between Common and the actual Current input socket) - You need clearance between Common and Voltage input There may be such issues, but you can't tell with such a short glimpse.
@ulfg1409
@ulfg1409 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it does what the specifications claim, unlike some other cheap scopes we've seen you test (I'm looking at you, Fnirsi!). This would be great in the tool bag I always bring when I go anywhere else to work on cars or things like that, you wouldn't need it very often but it's small enough to always be there when you do - it would replace the regular multimeter I have there now.
@johnsonlam
@johnsonlam Жыл бұрын
They should monitor Dave's review and update the firmware to eliminate the possibility to go wrong, I love how Dave test it with professional equipment, fantastic test!
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 Жыл бұрын
They sent it to him for review so I would assume they would take note of his ... review ??
@MelroyvandenBerg
@MelroyvandenBerg Жыл бұрын
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 indeed. Furthermore this was a prototype and not he final product yet
@dianeattaway8733
@dianeattaway8733 Жыл бұрын
If this multimeter was open source and reprogrammable, that would be a game changer and a magnitude closer to perfection
@HNedel
@HNedel Жыл бұрын
I think Dave started such a project some years ago, but it didn’t go beyond rough design and component picks. Just a multimeter though, no scope.
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky Жыл бұрын
There's been several hanheld open source (or semi open with alternative community firmware) scopes, I got one from Seeed studio. Sadly they kinda died and after couple years no more updates.
@PrinceWesterburg
@PrinceWesterburg Жыл бұрын
As someone who builds valve guitar and hifi projects, this is flipp'in amazing - I just wish it had an FFT freq res display, that would be simply off the chart useful.
@solacedagony1234
@solacedagony1234 Жыл бұрын
Or some way to dump out the storage trace over the USB for post processing.
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian Жыл бұрын
Whereas I love that bench oscilloscopes are available with function generators, FFT spectrum analysis, and enough inputs to handle proper valve amp biasing and plenty of diagnostics (sometimes simultaneously), the costs are certainly intimidating. Of the brands typically covered by Dave, only Rigol offers products meeting that general description for less than US$1k. Siglent, Rohde & Schwartz, and Keysight bench oscilloscopes cost between US$1k and US$2k with that array of features (of course, bandwidth is not a practical consideration for valve amp work in this era of oscilloscopes). That the most basic subset of that functionality can be covered by a handheld unit costing less than US$100 is pretty amazing.
@howlinhog
@howlinhog Жыл бұрын
I just received mine and decided to put it to the test. My standard scopes are a Fluke 190-204 and a USB type from Pico. I don't remember the model, 4000 something. So this little guy is sharing space in my tool bag (I'm a mobile tech) with some fairly heavy hitters. I work on battery operated Industrial equipment. Anyways, I discovered a very funky signal on my 5 volt reference circuit, a suspiciously familiar pattern, exactly like what you'd expect from an ac motor controller phase. A very nice crisp thin trace on the display made it easy to see the issue. Turns out one of the motor cables was pinched and shorted to frame and wreaking havoc on the five volt circuit. Anywayyyyys! Very impressive display and performance from a $71 scope. As a side note, in the multimeter mode min max and average volts are constantly displayed. That is really really important for someone who works on equipment running on lead acid industrial batteries. I can't count how many times I've been stung by a battery that has a reasonable state of charge but falls on it's face or even goes open under a small load and recovers to a reasonable voltage in a split second. I wouldn't own a meter without a min/max feature, but this meter has it displayed constantly! I absolutely love that.
@1HotLegendLS
@1HotLegendLS Жыл бұрын
You should put out your own portable oscilloscopes Dave, I'd totally buy it!
@Electronics-Rocks
@Electronics-Rocks Жыл бұрын
Looks handy to test sensors while out in the field. A bit disappointed that it is not fully cat rated. Very handy to see this review. The battery life is good enough for most jobs as mostly use my uniT clamp meter and voltage stick for standard stuff. Regulations in UK force us to use sticks like the fluke T150!
@tin2001
@tin2001 Жыл бұрын
5 hours of use between charges isn't too bad... In that price range, it's going to mainly be hobby use, so 5 hours will be several days usage at higher usage rates, and probably a month or 2 for most users who'll just use if for half an hour or so every few days. It's not like these will be used for 8 hour work days in a lab situation.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing the great cheap gear you can get now 👍 I love that it uses an 18650. Fairly clean design, the soldering is really agricultural tho'. Hand soldered ARM chip ??
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
"agricultural" LOL, I like that.
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius Жыл бұрын
I remember someone doing some investigative journalism to figure out where cheap SD cards were made in China. (Might have been Andrew "bunnie" Huang.) They figured out that one "factory" was actually a farm building with chickens running around outside.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 Жыл бұрын
@@Gameboygenius Bunnie is a freaking legend in the Maker community 👍😆
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian Жыл бұрын
@@edwardfletcher7790 Even my father (age 72) knows who Bunnie is.
@orbita1
@orbita1 Жыл бұрын
MIT multi book 'how to hack an xbox' Bunnie. Bunnie is a lyrical genius. We're lucky to live in the same timeline.
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 Жыл бұрын
"Stop testing current in voltage mode" LOL, well deserved sticker.
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine seeing this even 5 years ago? I've gotta think Dave has driven a LOT of development.
@asmi06
@asmi06 Жыл бұрын
One gotcha of this scope is that it's essentially a differential probe since it's not grounded UNLESS you connect it to PC, at which moment it suddenly becomes grounded. Can potentially make for some fireworks if operator is not careful.
@tristangates2797
@tristangates2797 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would be possible for products like this to have the ability to use the multi-meter inputs usable as differential probes. It could be useful even at even a tenth of the bandwidth.
@qijia4769
@qijia4769 Жыл бұрын
The mA problem is not exactly a problem. It is a point they may do better. But conflicts between the software settings and the hardware connections will often cause confusion. Another example is the x1/x10 probe attenuation, we need to use them properly.
@Drlava_00
@Drlava_00 Жыл бұрын
Nice little scope for the price, and review. The battery life could be upgraded with a flat pack battery, a 5 AH could fit in there
@ryanokeefe12
@ryanokeefe12 Жыл бұрын
I cannot stand that the world seems oblivious to how confusing buttons are when the UI shows one state or another.. The function buttons on this device obviously control what is displayed above them. at 18:36 switching between AC/DC modes.. Does the function button activate the mode that is shown above or is the mode that is shown above, the actual mode that the device is in? Some devices display what will be achieved by pressing the button, like the play/pause button for music on a phone (Pause symbol is shown when music is playing and pressing it PAUSES whatever is playing and the 'PLAY' symbol is shown). Some devices show what the current state is, like the volume mute control on windows PCs (when unmuted, the speaker with three audio waves is shown - pressing/clicking that button mutes the audio and the icon changes to a speaker with 'X' in front of it). A new piece of software I'm using at the moment has button that either reads "Auto Update ON" or "Auto Update OFF". The software is full of bugs and sometimes requires cycling of that button a few times to get things to update at all.. I still have no idea whether or not auto update is ON when the button says "Auto Update ON" or if it's OFF and I need to press "Auto Update ON" to actually turn it on. I feel like I'm the only person in the world that notices this - but it's EVERYWHERE. It brings me great pain. I hope someone reads this and tells me that everything will be okay.
@mattb9664
@mattb9664 Жыл бұрын
May have to pick one of these up. I had to toss out my 15 year old Craftsman DMM since the batteries corroded after moving from the old house to new house last year...and I really need to have a DMM and now an oscope in the home for all the projects and repairs I do.
@bill392
@bill392 Жыл бұрын
Another cool feature that might be nice would be to chart the digital meter value on the screen, like a scope or chart recorder. It already is printing the values to the screen as digits so why not add a trace plot? I get why it's so common that these devices have only 1 scope channel, but I'd pay a few bucks more for a 2 channel even if using 2 channels cut the bw in half so long as using just the 1 channel went back to full bw.
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 Жыл бұрын
One channel on the BNC, the other on the multimeter leads - just software to implement (admittedly probably externally limited DMM probe bandwidth)
@strehlow
@strehlow Жыл бұрын
@@paulstubbs7678 Or at least an external trigger using the volt/ohm probe jack.
@1kreature
@1kreature Жыл бұрын
I think the trigger thing is maybe also dependent on the divs hysteresis which it does not display. May be why it looses trigger.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 Жыл бұрын
6:46 That screw should have a nylon washer underneath it. Its very close to those traces. Especially the left one where your plastic yellow pointer is pointing.
@BM-jy6cb
@BM-jy6cb Жыл бұрын
I would have given my right arm for something like this as a teenage hobbyist back in the early 80's when to own an oscilloscope was merely a fantasy. For young makers today, just needing to check a signal is there and intact and check a few voltages, it is just the job. It may not be perfect , but looks like most of those issues are tweaks that could be easily fixed. One thing I don't like about all those Aneng meters is the convex display. Arggh. Why??
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
Good review. More low cost items please, but keep a reasonable perspective because we all know that a $80 scope can't be as good as a $2000 one or even as a $200 one.
@cashewmilkfan
@cashewmilkfan Жыл бұрын
my astroai DT132A multimeter (which I'm actually pretty happy with for the price) also suffers from that incorrect amp reading design. it's an obvious misuse case they probably should account for in the future. I'm pretty sure the DT132A uses the same chipset as this meter or at least a very similar chipset and so comes similar issues.
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын
I like the meter's internal construction and apart from the obvious screwup at 6:50, I'd say it's okay, you could compare the meter part against the UT61E+. Meter display, meh. 7-seg please! I like the probes, though they could use some insulating covers revealing the end of the tip. The current meter, it's pure craziness! 1.1A on a mA socket with 10mA going through it? Damnit, is there no socket detection on this thing? Hope they fix that, unless they make a firmware update that locks you off basic functionality unless you pay them ransom, like Rossmann recently mentioned. Calibration port under the cover next to the USB3 port is pretty clever, I like it. The inaccessible BNC socket, on the other hand, is not. 21:17 I can imagine Fran getting more and more pissed off at this thing. 5MHz bandwidth? Fine for power grid and audio applications. Some of those old analog Tek scopes went that far and no one complained, LOL. I like the separation of grounds. Imagine measuring the interphase voltage on a 3-phase grid and touching that BNC sleeve... Ouch! C'mon, what's with these people who buy a good quality meter and don't know it has a fuse (often not just one) in it, that can get blown?
@loslosbaby
@loslosbaby Жыл бұрын
"...Charging your shoe phone..." lol 1965 says hello! Thanks for takin' the time to look at this gizmo!
@henryganzer4685
@henryganzer4685 Жыл бұрын
it looks like an interesting device for that price. the times where you get mostly trash for cheap priced devices are definitively gone.
@HashanGayasri
@HashanGayasri Жыл бұрын
I quite like this one. If they let us muck around with the firmware and make customs mods (even without warrenty), this is an awesome product.
@0xc0ffea
@0xc0ffea Жыл бұрын
Yes please, more testing of cheap and even garbage tier gear. Not just because it's useful and sometimes you have to poke with the stick you've got, but also because it's entertaining 😁
@dusliangames
@dusliangames Жыл бұрын
I've been trying it out past week. Very nice form factor and works great.
@Petertronic
@Petertronic Жыл бұрын
According to comment replies made by Zotek on their firmware update video, the mA measuring issue is fixed now. Dave, I'd love to see you test the Owon handheld scopes, they are better than most, the range now has 40Mhz, 70Mhz, 100Mhz and 200Mhz models.
@stevenspmd
@stevenspmd Жыл бұрын
Is the probe calibration ground connected to the BNC ground? Accidentally touching the cal ground could be dangerous no?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
That's why it's behind the rubber cover. But this is obviously not the safest meter, user beware.
@stevenspmd
@stevenspmd Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Yeah, my OWON HDS272S is the same. Being the noob I am, my radar went up.
@hamkaasburger6142
@hamkaasburger6142 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, I love the review and ordered one immediately for my "on the road" toolbox.
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a firmware update might be in order to correct the erroneous reading in A/mA mode? Whilst they're at it - bigger MM digits please (and ditch the bar graph) 👍😁
@madmanmapper
@madmanmapper Жыл бұрын
As for the ammeter weirdness... I have a Snap-On multimeter, probably 10 years old now, that does the exact same thing. I've made many screw-ups by having the meter in amps mode, and having the leads in the milliamps jack. It still measures it, but the reading is always way off. Not sure why.
@jayzo
@jayzo Жыл бұрын
I bought a similar one from RuoShui/Victor (270) and I've seen a suspiciously similar one branded OWON and another branded Hantek, with versions claiming 2 oscilloscope channels with max frequency of 30MHz, 70MHz, 100MHz and 200MHz, and variants with a signal generator, they all seem to be built off similar software and hardware. Mine also has a warning about making sure you've connected everything properly in current mode that appears _every_ time you switch to it. Might be worth getting these clones and finding out if they're better/worse/the same.
@sandy1653
@sandy1653 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a decent meter to have in my go-bag for those quick troubleshooting jobs, especially at that price range. Sorta thing I won't be too broken up if it gets left in an equipment shelter or yeeted off a tower or something. Especially after a firmware update or two to square away a couple of those quibbles.
@jeremywinnett6352
@jeremywinnett6352 Жыл бұрын
Definitely good enough for the binary "do I have signal?" checks. For me, it may be worth it because I can leave it in the vehicle 24/7 without waking up over it. For me, I have two kinds of measurements: is it there? And is it right? These tools are good for is it there checks. If it's not right, I replace the part as it's not usually field serviceable.
@fiatlux4058
@fiatlux4058 Жыл бұрын
Thought so also. But it is unresponsive and eats 2600mah battery real fast even when i just use it for basic multimeter tasks. Got a little dso 154pro and made 3d printed case for it. So far so good. Multimeter and oscilloscope combo is a neat idea but in practice i found it is be better to have it separate. So at least for now in the 40-60$ price range you can get a decent little oscilloscope and compact multimeter with some degree of safety as separate devices or 2 in 1 but with serious compromises.
@romainf145
@romainf145 Жыл бұрын
Dave, can you test if the thing can charge with a USB-C PD charger (USB-C to USB-C cable) ? Many cheap products don't have the 2x 5.1k resistors on the CC lines to enable charging.
@KrotowX
@KrotowX Жыл бұрын
For the price it look as very nice budget meter. Would like configurable multimeter display mode with big digits as Dave said. LoZ mode presence would be nice too, but then this meter probably would cost $30 more. Possibility to lit up white LEDs in diode mode is a big plus. You don't need someting separate for LED strip testing or when you have no idea are LED itself is dead or something behind it and don't want to solder the LED out. Oscilloscope is very basic and only for low frequencies. However for fast PWM or other control signal presence check on field it is fine. LOL-ed hard on camel toe glitch for saw signal at 24:56. In short - for casual repairs and DIY this device is fine enough.
@mysomervda
@mysomervda Жыл бұрын
Nice review - I would love to see Dave do a similar review on an Owon portable oscilloscope . It has a similar use case of having a small oscilloscope for use when travelling around but specs seem better and I would probably be more confidant of what it was telling me.
@yur4al
@yur4al Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to test other low cost oscilloscopes! How about Dual Channel DSO2512G Oscilloscope for about 85 USD?
@littletear27
@littletear27 Жыл бұрын
I would like to have seen that oscilloscope connected to high voltage, such as the gate of a mosfet of a switching power supply. 😉
@guhropitu-ec2gd
@guhropitu-ec2gd Жыл бұрын
Would it make any difference as it is essentially a differential probe without any ground reference?
@johnelectric933
@johnelectric933 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea how many of those expensive Fluke fuses I have blown forgetting to move the probe! Some of the upper models beep when you change current to voltage or back.
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 Жыл бұрын
I recon you need a perspective for what alternatives there is out there.. quite a few multimeter/oscillioscope on the market these days, around the 100 dollar mark, that seems way superior on specs. I wondered about buying an Owon version in first half of 2021 so a few years back. It was a HDS242 at just over 100 USD with incl-. 25% VAT and shipping.. Its an 20.000 count, 2ch. 250Msa/s - 40MHz, 10.000Wfs also with 18650 usecase though 2x and 3.5" screen. but 8bits and merely 8k record length. there is also other HDS-models (3-1) going to 100Mhz & 500Msa/s and models with an inbuld signal generator (labelled with an "S" in the modelname) but they are around 200US, there is also tons of other models of this exact scope/multimeter (HDS class) but with names that aint that wellknown here in the west, like fx Victor and others.. they have an orange sleeve or an Green sleeve, instead of Owons blue variant.. not sure who makes it, .. as I doubt its Owon when other brands also have a version of this exact scope/multimeter.. but great video.. what I wanna see.. taking a look at new tech hitting the market.
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom Жыл бұрын
Zotek approached me a while ago about doing reviews, maybe I should have done it, just didn’t look that interesting at the time.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
They pestered me to do that bench meter with bluetooth radio thing, it's just dumb so said I'm not interested. This one looked interesting.
@matt.604
@matt.604 Жыл бұрын
If they fix some of the issues and release a new firmware, can you please do an update video?
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 Жыл бұрын
Nice review video
@MrRfries
@MrRfries Жыл бұрын
Definitely interested in affordable test gear for us home shop guys! Not looking for the cheapest item, but more decent quality gear in the home shop price range. Thanks and great video as always!
@mikrotech3103
@mikrotech3103 Жыл бұрын
Several meters From UNI T like the Uni T ut139C and the uni t ut33D+ also had the same issue in the mA ranges. When you switch into ma reading it shows wrong results
@peteleoni9665
@peteleoni9665 Жыл бұрын
Loved the signal tracing lesson.
@davidf2281
@davidf2281 Жыл бұрын
Be interested to know if it can do any sort of graphical temperature logging (over say an hour or so) using the thermocouple.
@nameredacted1242
@nameredacted1242 Жыл бұрын
There are dedicated instruments for that. Usually multi-channel.
@fullmoon6661
@fullmoon6661 Жыл бұрын
Lucky ZOTEK getting the free (beta?) testing
@floodo1
@floodo1 Жыл бұрын
wow looks pretty cool. I may have to pick one of these up to have a real portable scope for basic uses
@bill392
@bill392 Жыл бұрын
During the "A vs mA" misreading, I was screaming at my monitor "Dave, it's in the wrong mode dude!". Funny stuff. Been there, done that.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be possible to do that and get a wrong reading though.
@benedicthewson1180
@benedicthewson1180 Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Actually at 17.03 after switching back to A range the meter did correctly display the right(ish) value of 11.0 mA . Probably a software bug in there somewhere. Acutally scratch that, I missed you switching to 100uA.
@supralapsarian
@supralapsarian Жыл бұрын
The EEVB gang has been burning up the Amazon search for this unit. Ha! Thanks for giving us a heads-up on it. Seems like a great addition to the go-box!
@DrWhoRocks333
@DrWhoRocks333 Жыл бұрын
Page 28 of the manual shows a max peak voltage of 150V for the oscilloscope. I saw the meter handle a 240V AC input. What does the oscope do with that input?
@sonic2000gr
@sonic2000gr Жыл бұрын
The fact you can buy a small scope for the price of a half decent multimeter these days is just amazing. As a student I would be thrilled to have one of these back in the day. I couldn't even afford the basic 20 MHz Hameg analog scope...
@CliveChamberlain946
@CliveChamberlain946 Жыл бұрын
Is that MELF at the bottom of the PCB the shunt for mA? If so, it shares a connection with the 10A shunt possibly causing confusion.
@666Tomato666
@666Tomato666 Жыл бұрын
still bad design
@csimet
@csimet Жыл бұрын
For a cheaper all-in-one tester, it looks good. I would also not use it for high voltage testing or really anything that needed super precision, but certainly worth a look as a secondary meter to keep around. Amazon has it for $76, but is charging about $25 shipping (USD).
@Farm_fab
@Farm_fab Жыл бұрын
Dave, Temu has some digital oscilloscopes, some for about $28 USD, and others for more than $80. What is your experience with these?
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz Жыл бұрын
I don't think the battery life is an issue. I know lcd meters last forever with a pp3. But nornally you use it at most for 20 mins probing then usually it will auto off until you use it again. If it does go flat usb charging is ubiquitous these days.
@DelticEngine
@DelticEngine Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a 'scope or scopemeter with a built in spectrum analyser. If I can have a phone app with a 'scope and spectrum analyser and storage then why not a device like this?
@catalinalb1722
@catalinalb1722 Жыл бұрын
Dave: "You get what you get and you don't get upset!" 😂👍😀👍
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon
@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon Жыл бұрын
Please 🙏🏻 test more of these low cost products because some turn out to be decent quality products too!!! 😊
@ikocheratcr
@ikocheratcr Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if they add a graph in multimeter mode, instead of the "scale" on the top. Way better use of that display.
@glenng.8254
@glenng.8254 9 ай бұрын
The last part "for charging your shoe phone" I just cracked right up 🙂
@greybeard4034
@greybeard4034 Жыл бұрын
Same build as the: Aneng Aos02?
@Compasscard
@Compasscard Жыл бұрын
Hi, the old metex M80 that I had was doing the same thing with the mA/A range. It was an Intersil ICL7xxx based meter which served me fine until the LCD became unreadable due to age.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the scopemeter, I expected a completely shared front end with all ranges etc. So the scope can examine the exact mains waveform or measure microamp waveforms.
@biomed2560
@biomed2560 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting review of a bargain price meter. You had a quick look at the manual - well done. The manual is an integral part of the instrument. Is it intelligible or is it in Chinglish which is not intelligible?
@wurl
@wurl Жыл бұрын
Hi, Dave, maybe I missed it, but have you measured the off-mode current consumption? BTW: Is ZOYI pronounced as "So why?"
@tarunarya1780
@tarunarya1780 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, Dave. Please could you do more videos of such devices, or please tell us how to reversibly alter out modern light oscilloscopes in a cheap manner to prevent us blowing it (or attached equipment) up
@tallescg7
@tallescg7 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Could you make a comparison between Zotek ZT-702S and Mustool MDS-8207?
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 Жыл бұрын
dang, the prices, dont pay VAT in Australia when buying from China? 28:44 or do you need to declare it at arrival.?
@Mescherje
@Mescherje Жыл бұрын
A lot of multimeters have that mA/A issue. It's quite common, I'm surprised by your surprise 🙂
@The-four-o-five
@The-four-o-five Жыл бұрын
Please test more of the low cost stuff. Pretty interesting how quickly things evolve in this price range these days. I'd appreciate a follow up on the Zotek ZT-702S.
@HilaryCheng
@HilaryCheng Жыл бұрын
I just brought another cheap Osciloscope which is around US$44. It just provides a SIMPLE multimedia function. For me, I won't use that Osciloscope for high voltage. It is too dangerous. I just use it for MCU low voltage for see the waveform / power.
@dj6769
@dj6769 11 ай бұрын
Like the info I was interested in the functionality of this scope and you nailed it 👍
@caseyrevoir
@caseyrevoir Жыл бұрын
Sweet trusting optimistic Dave, 2,000 mAh battery... probably like 800 mAh. (or 500)
@Stef25k1
@Stef25k1 Жыл бұрын
I like your evaluation of low-cost electronic meter Thank you
@chrisf8584
@chrisf8584 Жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you could run out to your car and test your alternator and post back the results? I have this scope and so far can't say if it's a good test or not.
@tommiller1315
@tommiller1315 Жыл бұрын
I like my ~£20 ANENG AN8008, (marked as AUTOOL DM700) for its square wave out function, for testing Piezo and dynamic mic / speaker function. Was the current draw with the backlight lit? 300mA does seem a lot. Thanks for the review Dave. Always like to know what I really need one of - since I never knew existed before 🤣
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