So cool that you could hear the switching frequency, it sounded pretty awesome.
@MrCarlsonsLab10 жыл бұрын
Great tear down as usual! Would have been nice to see the output waveform on a scope, with a variable load, and with no load. I didn't think we built anything up here in Canada anymore, maybe there's still hope..... Not holding my breath :^l
@FooBar897 жыл бұрын
Point Grey cameras :P
@mikeselectricstuff11 жыл бұрын
Big holes in PCB may be for airflow rather than isolation
@doomprophet11 жыл бұрын
The frequency sound at the end made the whole thing worth while. Big thumbs up!
@RobCCTV9 жыл бұрын
Superb. Even if I was not fascinated by electronics design (for my retirement hobby), I would still watch this for the many throw-away funny phrases that this man uses. I hope he is making a comfortable living out of such videos, because he deserves it.
@DanielLopez-up6os3 жыл бұрын
Love coming back to these teardowns.
@yngvai7777 жыл бұрын
I've worked on quite a few Absopulse power supplies. They all came from the rail industry where they were mounted inside train cars.
@ronaldlijs11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Dave, back to the roots. I need to get one of these myself for my products, at the moment just have a variac and that's it.. Keep it up,
@mikeselectricstuff11 жыл бұрын
Black thing on ceramic stilts probably a NTC inrush limiter
@uniment11 жыл бұрын
You're correct; when switching higher voltages, transition losses increase fairly quickly so lower switching frequencies are used. The more interesting noise here though is not the main switching frequency, but what is apparently an intermodulation product between the switching frequency and the output frequency. This IMD product is heard as a rising and falling frequency, and though it'd be technically incorrect, some people would call it a "beat" frequency.
@MrDubje11 жыл бұрын
As afbor said: It's basicly a temperature sensitive switch (a pre-set bimetallic switch). These klixons can be bought in a variety of pre set temperatures. Other than NTC or PTC sensors these over-temperature switches can't be used to accurately "measure" a temperature of-course (like an analogue value). :)
@EEVblog11 жыл бұрын
Smaller and lighter transformers than 50/60Hz ones. But 400Hz is no good for long distance transmission, so only of use in a confined system like a plane or ship.
@BMRStudio11 жыл бұрын
38:59 - Dave goes to the space :))) Best turbine engine spin up sound ever :)
@glenwoofit11 жыл бұрын
Big Thumbs Up! I had to fast forward and skip the specs as I couldn't wait to see inside...
@ScramblerUSA11 жыл бұрын
Dave, it would be nice to have a follow-up video with scope-probing the output of this unit. I'm very interested to see its sinusoidal output. How it performs with and without the load, all this stuff. Thanks.
@HeartOfGermany11 жыл бұрын
Arw, finally something new about frequency stuff. Will love it!
@Andrew_Sparrow11 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for one of these for a long time! wasn't sure they exist as didn't know what to search for. Was basically looking for an electronic version of a variac. Now I know they exist! Would have liked more of an explanation of how they work, I pretty much know how they work but never hurts a second, third, fourth opinion and run through :)
@rfcarlson111 жыл бұрын
Also needed in applications where you're trying to detect very small signals that are normally in the range of the line frequency (like passive sonar signatures).
@EEVblog11 жыл бұрын
I of course forgot to mention that a variac is the traditional way to adjust mains input voltage.
@CH_Pechiar11 жыл бұрын
500!! and I've watched them all. Ohh my brain.. poor brain! Seriously, congrats Dave!
@Coolkeys200911 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, Please runs some loads, an induction motor or shaded pole fan motor and a high power halogen lamp. Can we see the output waveforms on scope loaded and unloaded?
@sebastiang229611 жыл бұрын
The sound it made (at the end of the video) was the best part.
@oliglaser11 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Dave, thanks. Just to point out a small mistake, @35:57 you refer to the PIC16F's as being "variations of 16-bit PIC chips". I know you now they are 8-bit uCs, so I'm guessing you meant to say "variations of 16F PIC chips" here. P.S - Congrats on reaching 500 - here's to the next 500 videos!
@AbdullahKahramanPhD11 жыл бұрын
Great teardown Dave! You have mentioned diode matching and paralleling. Could you make a video on it with maybe some demonstration?
@wemme11 жыл бұрын
We had one of these they are bloody handy for testing usa motors and magnetics in nz/au. They heat up at the low freq due to lower inductance than 50hz magnetics
@cognetic8 жыл бұрын
"What a dogs breakfast". Truly love Dave's witty descriptions.
@squawkBirdies11 жыл бұрын
That switching frequency sweep sounded so trippy, man.
@rikvdmark8 жыл бұрын
Psychedelic frequency noises. That sounded really cool :D
@nodariel11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks Dave!
@ceecrb111 жыл бұрын
9:02 The amazing disappearing hand! A teardown and magic in the same video? Bonus :)
@pjlegault615311 жыл бұрын
Inductors, like transformers will have issues with a higher frequency. The grunty work of filtering is left to capacitors in most power supplies and adaptors, and capacitors filter better with higher frequency input. That is a big part of why a full bridge rectifier will filter better than a half wave. You include positive and negative alternations into your DC conversion and double the frequency of your AC in your DC Input. A 60 Hz AC will become 120Hz DC pulses which filter much better.
@STBYRUD11 жыл бұрын
Hmm, thanks for the confirmation, I had similar thoughts - I doubt that a bog standard AC to USB power supply would have any PFC in it, so they should definitely be okay then - cheers!
@00101110o11 жыл бұрын
Listening to that frequency switching reminded me of older game audio. Something akin to a spaceship readying itself for launch (with the fan ramping up in speed).
@Mr_Wh111 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video as always. Thanks Dave!
@aerofart11 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Dave.
@38911bytefree11 жыл бұрын
Dave, you can do in a totally lineal fashion. not the best but ouput wave is clean, without any THD, and its even simpler to understand. Just put an audio power amp chip like the LM3886 or the want you have, an output tranformer to gain voltage (i.e. loss current) some feedback at the output and you are done. In that way you only need a decent DAC and a sine wave table in your uC. if a good power uC you can still generate THD that is useful, because real mains is not sooo clean.
@TheOriginalEviltech11 жыл бұрын
It sounds like it's going to fly off to space :D Love the overpopulated boards! Feels like real quality when you pick up something made so good. I guess the voltage control is on the input board, otherwise i don't see why they'd do so much control on it.
@DaedalusYoung11 жыл бұрын
In The Netherlands, mains wiring has Ground, Null and Phase wires. So PH probably just means phase. If you check Wikipedia "Electrical wiring" page, they call the wires phase, neutral and ground as well.
@RandyLott11 жыл бұрын
It must use a PLL with a multiplier/divider in the loop, or maybe a DDS chip? Obviously, I'm still watching :) Can't wait for the teardown, haha.
@CH_Pechiar11 жыл бұрын
yes, that would be nice to see. Varying the load too.
@chuckvanderbildt11 жыл бұрын
I now read all datasheets in your voice, dave. That includes the automatic pitch increase when you hit the odd marketing bs.
@eggraf11 жыл бұрын
YAY Representing my hometown. Go Ottawa Canada :)
@ChipGuy11 жыл бұрын
Love teardown tuesday. Even if an item would be boring as ratshit still big thumbs up for the effort you put into these videos. Btw congrats to your 500th video (German counter).
@gglovato11 жыл бұрын
Dave, what about checking the output sinewave in one of the scopes?, maybe at the low voltage range or using the scopemeter
@k25001478311 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they made it go up to exactly 440Hz to get a clean A
@berni8k11 жыл бұрын
Well if its a switchmode charger it wont matter because its just rectifying mains in to DC, but might cause problems when there is a active PFC like here. But the old heavy 50Hz transformer wallwarts might not like 400Hz because the iron core in it is not designed to be used that high and may start to heat up a lot due to eddy currents just like inductive heaters work.
@ValdemarCamilo11 жыл бұрын
"that's probably the last voltage I set it at". Is there something you're not telling us dave? :-P took a peak before taking it apart? excellent video as usual.
@keithminchin18172 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been interesting to see the frequency and resolution of the SPWM signal off the PIC.
@MMegaHz11 жыл бұрын
That thing makes the coolest sounds
@philpem11 жыл бұрын
I'll wager they're probably using high-frequency PWM to avoid running the FETs in linear mode (and thus keep the FET temperature down). If that's the case, the chokes will be acting as lowpass filters to keep harmonics off the AC output line.
@uyjulian11 жыл бұрын
happy 500 videos
@EletronManiacos11 жыл бұрын
Tanks for the answer Dave =P (Live Stream Question)
@EEVblog11 жыл бұрын
It is connected to the case, just rather poorly.
@EEVblog11 жыл бұрын
Yep, you certainly could.
@malcolmtill11 жыл бұрын
Hi In the UK we refer to phase and neutral hence PH and N Kind regards
@mattmanslim11 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, given the variable range in voltage and frequency, does that mean you could potentially run aircraft equipment from that unit? Apologies if it's mentioned later on in the video.
@icesoft111 жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you'd be doing a review with output characteristics as well would ya? Kinda curious how clean the output waveform looks... You might check out Tesla500's review of a APC SmartUPS, which also has PWM Sinewave output.
@philpem11 жыл бұрын
32:00 -- Looks like it could be a UC3844 to me. AC/DC power supply controller -- would link to the datasheet but KZbin won't let me. It's on TI's website anyway...
@electronixTech11 жыл бұрын
Hey nice, I live here in Ottawa and know about Absopulse.
@Lodorenos11 жыл бұрын
New video, awesome!
@STBYRUD11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave! I have a somewhat related question - I work on airplanes, they have single phase 110V 400Hz sockets scattered throughout the cabin and the cockpit. People use those to charge their phones and laptops - obviously way out of spec for the regular power supply. What happens to such a power supply if it is fed with 400Hz AC instead of the usual 50 or 60 Hz?
@275drago11 жыл бұрын
Hi dave i am watching your videos for about 2 months i am enjoing every single one of them :) i watched a lot of old ones too. And i would like to see you make your own audio power amp like you did with a uCurent and others.
@ElectronicTonic15611 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Johnny-5 making love to the Electric Dreams computer.
@NerdNordic11 жыл бұрын
Yup. Especially at the lower frequencies. :)
@Ghlargh11 жыл бұрын
That would be UC3844, not 3644 It's an SMPS Controller.
@kfishy11 жыл бұрын
39:00 sounds like old 8-bit video game sounds, and then it sounds like a jet engine as the frequency goes up.
@MrClaudiodonate11 жыл бұрын
It's so easy for you to unscrew those screws that looks like you opened it before the recording.
@vacuumboy6.011 жыл бұрын
CLEAR!!!!!!!!!!
@javedkhan025811 жыл бұрын
high frequency doesn't mean smaller motors. Can you explain how? Adjustable speed drive or variable speed drive are used to control the speed of machinery. n=120*f/p, where n is synchronous speed in RPM, f is frequency and p is number of poles of AC or induction motors.
@1337NoMad133711 жыл бұрын
As for mains earth: The spec sheet says it's got a floating output. So they probably didn't hook the mains' earth up to the case to keep it floating... Which for me doesn't make sense - shouldn't the mains' earth be connected to the case as a safety measure rather than the output?
@chris74656846211 жыл бұрын
What is the price of this unit? I don't see prices on their website. They do a 1kW and 2kW version also!
@youbecha6411 жыл бұрын
I am not an engineer, but I am sure a standard 'wall wart' power adapter, or cellphone charger designed to run at 50-60 hz would have filtering issues or other issues when plugged into an aircraft 115v 400hz socket. Could you spend a couple of minutes and test what happens in that situation? (now that you have a device that can generate that kind of power)
@GerardHook11 жыл бұрын
Sounded like the audible switching was at a harmonic of the set freq.
@dasten12311 жыл бұрын
39:00 nice sound effects :D
@magoostus6 жыл бұрын
Ive got an audio amplifier (Yamaha T5N) Thats been kinda fun use to power 120v equipment from. just hook a 60hz sine generator to it :P
@RealZomBiE81929 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have one to adjust my tabletop fan speed. :D
@PhattyMo11 жыл бұрын
32:05, Might it be a UC3844N (not 3644)?? UC3844N is current mode controller. (pretty common in smaller SMPS's.)
@AmirHakimiRezaei11 жыл бұрын
Hi fives to everyone from here in Canada
@toast_recon11 жыл бұрын
With how much manufacturing costs were disregarded, I can't even hazard a guess at how much something like this would cost. 10K US?
@touchsmart73211 жыл бұрын
Just getting into electronics so this might be a nooby question but, What are the advantages of higher frequency AC and why do they use those frequencies in military?
@Armchaircmdr11 жыл бұрын
Where can I get one? I am currently using a Behlman P1351 to test aircraft parts.It has been sent back once for repair (warranty), and it is about to go back again. It takes a good hit to the top to turn it on.
@petersage51574 жыл бұрын
Saw all those little film capacitors on the riser boards and thought "HAH!...or possibly hah." Looked like a place where any bean counters involved might have pinched a few pennies...but no, those all appear to be Kemet and Panasonic, and the big honkin' poly capacitors are Electronic Concepts. "Very impressive - spared no expense." I agree that the missing mains earth lead was a major oversight. If that were a piece of consumer gear and not pro-jobber test equipment, I can't see how that would pass certification in the US.
@Fan11910 жыл бұрын
Maybe those Canadians had a kettle bit too much maple syrup while designing it.
@TheManLab77 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between "voltage" and "working voltage"???
@defaultuser00011 жыл бұрын
That's a UC3844 chip...It's a fixed-freq current-mode PWM controller.
@MrMac515011 жыл бұрын
Very Good
@david48603811 жыл бұрын
New T-shirt "Screwdriver Time"
@aptsys11 жыл бұрын
PH just means Phase. It's the correct terminology for any line conductor not at PE potential. Hot/Live etc are technically not the correct terms.
@TheManLab77 жыл бұрын
39:00 sounds so cool.
@billa86717 жыл бұрын
lol i know right? sounds like the mothership landing