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@XOIIOXOIIO
@XOIIOXOIIO 10 жыл бұрын
So cool that you could hear the switching frequency, it sounded pretty awesome.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 10 жыл бұрын
Great tear down as usual! Would have been nice to see the output waveform on a scope, with a variable load, and with no load. I didn't think we built anything up here in Canada anymore, maybe there's still hope..... Not holding my breath :^l
@FooBar89
@FooBar89 7 жыл бұрын
Point Grey cameras :P
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 11 жыл бұрын
Big holes in PCB may be for airflow rather than isolation
@doomprophet
@doomprophet 11 жыл бұрын
The frequency sound at the end made the whole thing worth while. Big thumbs up!
@RobCCTV
@RobCCTV 9 жыл бұрын
Superb. Even if I was not fascinated by electronics design (for my retirement hobby), I would still watch this for the many throw-away funny phrases that this man uses. I hope he is making a comfortable living out of such videos, because he deserves it.
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 3 жыл бұрын
Love coming back to these teardowns.
@yngvai777
@yngvai777 7 жыл бұрын
I've worked on quite a few Absopulse power supplies. They all came from the rail industry where they were mounted inside train cars.
@ronaldlijs
@ronaldlijs 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Dave, back to the roots. I need to get one of these myself for my products, at the moment just have a variac and that's it.. Keep it up,
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 11 жыл бұрын
Black thing on ceramic stilts probably a NTC inrush limiter
@uniment
@uniment 11 жыл бұрын
You're correct; when switching higher voltages, transition losses increase fairly quickly so lower switching frequencies are used. The more interesting noise here though is not the main switching frequency, but what is apparently an intermodulation product between the switching frequency and the output frequency. This IMD product is heard as a rising and falling frequency, and though it'd be technically incorrect, some people would call it a "beat" frequency.
@MrDubje
@MrDubje 11 жыл бұрын
As afbor said: It's basicly a temperature sensitive switch (a pre-set bimetallic switch). These klixons can be bought in a variety of pre set temperatures. Other than NTC or PTC sensors these over-temperature switches can't be used to accurately "measure" a temperature of-course (like an analogue value). :)
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 жыл бұрын
Smaller and lighter transformers than 50/60Hz ones. But 400Hz is no good for long distance transmission, so only of use in a confined system like a plane or ship.
@BMRStudio
@BMRStudio 11 жыл бұрын
38:59 - Dave goes to the space :))) Best turbine engine spin up sound ever :)
@glenwoofit
@glenwoofit 11 жыл бұрын
Big Thumbs Up! I had to fast forward and skip the specs as I couldn't wait to see inside...
@ScramblerUSA
@ScramblerUSA 11 жыл бұрын
Dave, it would be nice to have a follow-up video with scope-probing the output of this unit. I'm very interested to see its sinusoidal output. How it performs with and without the load, all this stuff. Thanks.
@HeartOfGermany
@HeartOfGermany 11 жыл бұрын
Arw, finally something new about frequency stuff. Will love it!
@Andrew_Sparrow
@Andrew_Sparrow 11 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for one of these for a long time! wasn't sure they exist as didn't know what to search for. Was basically looking for an electronic version of a variac. Now I know they exist! Would have liked more of an explanation of how they work, I pretty much know how they work but never hurts a second, third, fourth opinion and run through :)
@rfcarlson1
@rfcarlson1 11 жыл бұрын
Also needed in applications where you're trying to detect very small signals that are normally in the range of the line frequency (like passive sonar signatures).
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 жыл бұрын
I of course forgot to mention that a variac is the traditional way to adjust mains input voltage.
@CH_Pechiar
@CH_Pechiar 11 жыл бұрын
500!! and I've watched them all. Ohh my brain.. poor brain! Seriously, congrats Dave!
@Coolkeys2009
@Coolkeys2009 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, Please runs some loads, an induction motor or shaded pole fan motor and a high power halogen lamp. Can we see the output waveforms on scope loaded and unloaded?
@sebastiang2296
@sebastiang2296 11 жыл бұрын
The sound it made (at the end of the video) was the best part.
@oliglaser
@oliglaser 11 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Dave, thanks. Just to point out a small mistake, @35:57 you refer to the PIC16F's as being "variations of 16-bit PIC chips". I know you now they are 8-bit uCs, so I'm guessing you meant to say "variations of 16F PIC chips" here. P.S - Congrats on reaching 500 - here's to the next 500 videos!
@AbdullahKahramanPhD
@AbdullahKahramanPhD 11 жыл бұрын
Great teardown Dave! You have mentioned diode matching and paralleling. Could you make a video on it with maybe some demonstration?
@wemme
@wemme 11 жыл бұрын
We had one of these they are bloody handy for testing usa motors and magnetics in nz/au. They heat up at the low freq due to lower inductance than 50hz magnetics
@cognetic
@cognetic 8 жыл бұрын
"What a dogs breakfast". Truly love Dave's witty descriptions.
@squawkBirdies
@squawkBirdies 11 жыл бұрын
That switching frequency sweep sounded so trippy, man.
@rikvdmark
@rikvdmark 8 жыл бұрын
Psychedelic frequency noises. That sounded really cool :D
@nodariel
@nodariel 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks Dave!
@ceecrb1
@ceecrb1 11 жыл бұрын
9:02 The amazing disappearing hand! A teardown and magic in the same video? Bonus :)
@pjlegault6153
@pjlegault6153 11 жыл бұрын
Inductors, like transformers will have issues with a higher frequency. The grunty work of filtering is left to capacitors in most power supplies and adaptors, and capacitors filter better with higher frequency input. That is a big part of why a full bridge rectifier will filter better than a half wave. You include positive and negative alternations into your DC conversion and double the frequency of your AC in your DC Input. A 60 Hz AC will become 120Hz DC pulses which filter much better.
@STBYRUD
@STBYRUD 11 жыл бұрын
Hmm, thanks for the confirmation, I had similar thoughts - I doubt that a bog standard AC to USB power supply would have any PFC in it, so they should definitely be okay then - cheers!
@00101110o
@00101110o 11 жыл бұрын
Listening to that frequency switching reminded me of older game audio. Something akin to a spaceship readying itself for launch (with the fan ramping up in speed).
@Mr_Wh1
@Mr_Wh1 11 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video as always. Thanks Dave!
@aerofart
@aerofart 11 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Dave.
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 11 жыл бұрын
Dave, you can do in a totally lineal fashion. not the best but ouput wave is clean, without any THD, and its even simpler to understand. Just put an audio power amp chip like the LM3886 or the want you have, an output tranformer to gain voltage (i.e. loss current) some feedback at the output and you are done. In that way you only need a decent DAC and a sine wave table in your uC. if a good power uC you can still generate THD that is useful, because real mains is not sooo clean.
@TheOriginalEviltech
@TheOriginalEviltech 11 жыл бұрын
It sounds like it's going to fly off to space :D Love the overpopulated boards! Feels like real quality when you pick up something made so good. I guess the voltage control is on the input board, otherwise i don't see why they'd do so much control on it.
@DaedalusYoung
@DaedalusYoung 11 жыл бұрын
In The Netherlands, mains wiring has Ground, Null and Phase wires. So PH probably just means phase. If you check Wikipedia "Electrical wiring" page, they call the wires phase, neutral and ground as well.
@RandyLott
@RandyLott 11 жыл бұрын
It must use a PLL with a multiplier/divider in the loop, or maybe a DDS chip? Obviously, I'm still watching :) Can't wait for the teardown, haha.
@CH_Pechiar
@CH_Pechiar 11 жыл бұрын
yes, that would be nice to see. Varying the load too.
@chuckvanderbildt
@chuckvanderbildt 11 жыл бұрын
I now read all datasheets in your voice, dave. That includes the automatic pitch increase when you hit the odd marketing bs.
@eggraf
@eggraf 11 жыл бұрын
YAY Representing my hometown. Go Ottawa Canada :)
@ChipGuy
@ChipGuy 11 жыл бұрын
Love teardown tuesday. Even if an item would be boring as ratshit still big thumbs up for the effort you put into these videos. Btw congrats to your 500th video (German counter).
@gglovato
@gglovato 11 жыл бұрын
Dave, what about checking the output sinewave in one of the scopes?, maybe at the low voltage range or using the scopemeter
@k250014783
@k250014783 11 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they made it go up to exactly 440Hz to get a clean A
@berni8k
@berni8k 11 жыл бұрын
Well if its a switchmode charger it wont matter because its just rectifying mains in to DC, but might cause problems when there is a active PFC like here. But the old heavy 50Hz transformer wallwarts might not like 400Hz because the iron core in it is not designed to be used that high and may start to heat up a lot due to eddy currents just like inductive heaters work.
@ValdemarCamilo
@ValdemarCamilo 11 жыл бұрын
"that's probably the last voltage I set it at". Is there something you're not telling us dave? :-P took a peak before taking it apart? excellent video as usual.
@keithminchin1817
@keithminchin1817 2 жыл бұрын
Would’ve been interesting to see the frequency and resolution of the SPWM signal off the PIC.
@MMegaHz
@MMegaHz 11 жыл бұрын
That thing makes the coolest sounds
@philpem
@philpem 11 жыл бұрын
I'll wager they're probably using high-frequency PWM to avoid running the FETs in linear mode (and thus keep the FET temperature down). If that's the case, the chokes will be acting as lowpass filters to keep harmonics off the AC output line.
@uyjulian
@uyjulian 11 жыл бұрын
happy 500 videos
@EletronManiacos
@EletronManiacos 11 жыл бұрын
Tanks for the answer Dave =P (Live Stream Question)
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 жыл бұрын
It is connected to the case, just rather poorly.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 жыл бұрын
Yep, you certainly could.
@malcolmtill
@malcolmtill 11 жыл бұрын
Hi In the UK we refer to phase and neutral hence PH and N Kind regards
@mattmanslim
@mattmanslim 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, given the variable range in voltage and frequency, does that mean you could potentially run aircraft equipment from that unit? Apologies if it's mentioned later on in the video.
@icesoft1
@icesoft1 11 жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you'd be doing a review with output characteristics as well would ya? Kinda curious how clean the output waveform looks... You might check out Tesla500's review of a APC SmartUPS, which also has PWM Sinewave output.
@philpem
@philpem 11 жыл бұрын
32:00 -- Looks like it could be a UC3844 to me. AC/DC power supply controller -- would link to the datasheet but KZbin won't let me. It's on TI's website anyway...
@electronixTech
@electronixTech 11 жыл бұрын
Hey nice, I live here in Ottawa and know about Absopulse.
@Lodorenos
@Lodorenos 11 жыл бұрын
New video, awesome!
@STBYRUD
@STBYRUD 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave! I have a somewhat related question - I work on airplanes, they have single phase 110V 400Hz sockets scattered throughout the cabin and the cockpit. People use those to charge their phones and laptops - obviously way out of spec for the regular power supply. What happens to such a power supply if it is fed with 400Hz AC instead of the usual 50 or 60 Hz?
@275drago
@275drago 11 жыл бұрын
Hi dave i am watching your videos for about 2 months i am enjoing every single one of them :) i watched a lot of old ones too. And i would like to see you make your own audio power amp like you did with a uCurent and others.
@ElectronicTonic156
@ElectronicTonic156 11 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Johnny-5 making love to the Electric Dreams computer.
@NerdNordic
@NerdNordic 11 жыл бұрын
Yup. Especially at the lower frequencies. :)
@Ghlargh
@Ghlargh 11 жыл бұрын
That would be UC3844, not 3644 It's an SMPS Controller.
@kfishy
@kfishy 11 жыл бұрын
39:00 sounds like old 8-bit video game sounds, and then it sounds like a jet engine as the frequency goes up.
@MrClaudiodonate
@MrClaudiodonate 11 жыл бұрын
It's so easy for you to unscrew those screws that looks like you opened it before the recording.
@vacuumboy6.0
@vacuumboy6.0 11 жыл бұрын
CLEAR!!!!!!!!!!
@javedkhan0258
@javedkhan0258 11 жыл бұрын
high frequency doesn't mean smaller motors. Can you explain how? Adjustable speed drive or variable speed drive are used to control the speed of machinery. n=120*f/p, where n is synchronous speed in RPM, f is frequency and p is number of poles of AC or induction motors.
@1337NoMad1337
@1337NoMad1337 11 жыл бұрын
As for mains earth: The spec sheet says it's got a floating output. So they probably didn't hook the mains' earth up to the case to keep it floating... Which for me doesn't make sense - shouldn't the mains' earth be connected to the case as a safety measure rather than the output?
@chris746568462
@chris746568462 11 жыл бұрын
What is the price of this unit? I don't see prices on their website. They do a 1kW and 2kW version also!
@youbecha64
@youbecha64 11 жыл бұрын
I am not an engineer, but I am sure a standard 'wall wart' power adapter, or cellphone charger designed to run at 50-60 hz would have filtering issues or other issues when plugged into an aircraft 115v 400hz socket. Could you spend a couple of minutes and test what happens in that situation? (now that you have a device that can generate that kind of power)
@GerardHook
@GerardHook 11 жыл бұрын
Sounded like the audible switching was at a harmonic of the set freq.
@dasten123
@dasten123 11 жыл бұрын
39:00 nice sound effects :D
@magoostus
@magoostus 6 жыл бұрын
Ive got an audio amplifier (Yamaha T5N) Thats been kinda fun use to power 120v equipment from. just hook a 60hz sine generator to it :P
@RealZomBiE8192
@RealZomBiE8192 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have one to adjust my tabletop fan speed. :D
@PhattyMo
@PhattyMo 11 жыл бұрын
32:05, Might it be a UC3844N (not 3644)?? UC3844N is current mode controller. (pretty common in smaller SMPS's.)
@AmirHakimiRezaei
@AmirHakimiRezaei 11 жыл бұрын
Hi fives to everyone from here in Canada
@toast_recon
@toast_recon 11 жыл бұрын
With how much manufacturing costs were disregarded, I can't even hazard a guess at how much something like this would cost. 10K US?
@touchsmart732
@touchsmart732 11 жыл бұрын
Just getting into electronics so this might be a nooby question but, What are the advantages of higher frequency AC and why do they use those frequencies in military?
@Armchaircmdr
@Armchaircmdr 11 жыл бұрын
Where can I get one? I am currently using a Behlman P1351 to test aircraft parts.It has been sent back once for repair (warranty), and it is about to go back again. It takes a good hit to the top to turn it on.
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 4 жыл бұрын
Saw all those little film capacitors on the riser boards and thought "HAH!...or possibly hah." Looked like a place where any bean counters involved might have pinched a few pennies...but no, those all appear to be Kemet and Panasonic, and the big honkin' poly capacitors are Electronic Concepts. "Very impressive - spared no expense." I agree that the missing mains earth lead was a major oversight. If that were a piece of consumer gear and not pro-jobber test equipment, I can't see how that would pass certification in the US.
@Fan119
@Fan119 10 жыл бұрын
Maybe those Canadians had a kettle bit too much maple syrup while designing it.
@TheManLab7
@TheManLab7 7 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between "voltage" and "working voltage"???
@defaultuser000
@defaultuser000 11 жыл бұрын
That's a UC3844 chip...It's a fixed-freq current-mode PWM controller.
@MrMac5150
@MrMac5150 11 жыл бұрын
Very Good
@david486038
@david486038 11 жыл бұрын
New T-shirt "Screwdriver Time"
@aptsys
@aptsys 11 жыл бұрын
PH just means Phase. It's the correct terminology for any line conductor not at PE potential. Hot/Live etc are technically not the correct terms.
@TheManLab7
@TheManLab7 7 жыл бұрын
39:00 sounds so cool.
@billa8671
@billa8671 7 жыл бұрын
lol i know right? sounds like the mothership landing
@laharl2k
@laharl2k 11 жыл бұрын
39:00 it's gonna blow!!! lol awesome sound effects :P
@CH_Pechiar
@CH_Pechiar 11 жыл бұрын
At first it reminded me the subway (metro, subte, whatever you want to call the train that goes underground) when it starts moving.
@misisisososo
@misisisososo 11 жыл бұрын
This gunk which components are stuck together with can be any material? I mean can I use basic silicon pistol to do the job ? Thanks
@UnrealVideoDuke
@UnrealVideoDuke 11 жыл бұрын
no review for the extech mini microscope?
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 11 жыл бұрын
I had that exact same association :P
@bnber18
@bnber18 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave sorry for the nooby question but what is a Choke I dont know all the english words for the parts. Greetings from Austria
@MrDubje
@MrDubje 11 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking too! It's a Klixon.
@malgailany
@malgailany 11 жыл бұрын
500 VA does not equal 500 W. this depends on load power factor.
@R4MP4G3RXD
@R4MP4G3RXD 11 жыл бұрын
lol that switching sound is like an outer space car that is speeding up to 3000 km/h xD
@Lukas.H9
@Lukas.H9 11 жыл бұрын
istn't the first transformer only for the PFC?
@MrSoundshark
@MrSoundshark 11 жыл бұрын
Pull the pics and have a look on you pic kit at the code im sure it would reveal some interesting stuff
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