Tweek Wins! Hbox Smash! Light Fumbles! | Lights Out Episode 58

[@xx_v_xx4373]

P Diddy: ☹️☹️☹️☹️ Tweek's Diddy: 😃😃😃😃

[@lokks2130]

might be one of the worst comments I've seen

[@xx_v_xx4373]

@@lokks2130 lighten up lol

[@kentwood6797]

bars!

[@oxicemusic]

😂😂

[@k0dori]

@@xx_v_xx4373pun intended? Lmao

[@sizzle9000]

TK bringing that up is so real because i know we're all trying to put it in the rearview and move on, but it's hard to when we're still very much feeling the effects of it today. i mourn what our community and top players, casters, TOs, production ppl, etc. lost in that whole debacle. the next smash on the switch 2 if we get another chance like that we CANNOT fumble it istg 😭

[@Lerkero]

Its probably better to build a community around a platform fighter other than smash. Nintendo has shown that they do not care

[@sizzle9000]

​@@LerkeroI disagree, they did show they cared when they partnered with Panda Cup. Whether they do now is another story

[@Lerkero]

@sizzle9000 thats not nintendo showing they care about the smash community, that was nintendo showing they want full control of it. Nintendo is entitled to have full control if they want to, but its obvious that what nitendo wants is to the detriment of evolving the smash tourney scene for the better

[@sizzle9000]

@@Lerkero We ain't evolving right now tho, that's the issue 😭 we're magikarp splashing around in a puddle going no where

[@Lerkero]

@sizzle9000 that leads back to me recommending the community to support a different platform fighter. Nintendo doesn't want the community to evolve in a way that players will enjoy. Its time to stop relying on smash and nintendo

[@tvftw1]

Damn, was looking forward to Light complaining about the Big D seeding after a week to prep for it

[@davyn8mccray]

D1 hater

[@MarioSMG64]

The infinite Hbox Pop off was instantly iconic. Truly a microcosm of his life as a competitor.

[@greythegandalf4675]

Is EE that guy that cheated and stole 50 thousand dollars from Extra Emily and Mizkif?

[@123iAmE]

Malee has no real scene anymore Hbox is making it more like the WWE and entertainment. most of their top players are friends and make content together its not that serious

[@Greeds_]

cosmos is so close to a top 8 he's been getting 9ths constantly. i have faith

[@SussyBaka_irl]

Idk, been praying for a Cosmos Top 8 since the start of the year, same for a Sonix major dub & both have consistently been gatekept from them. Starting to think these brackets may be rigged fr.

[@pbz7572]

I hope whatever tourney Cosmos finally top 8s at is a tourney he gets top 4 or wins at

[@pbz7572]

⁠@@SussyBaka_irl u might be a powerful jinx. I was the same way with the knicks this past month

[@__BlacklotuS__]

cosmos is my GoaT

[@SussyBaka_irl]

@@pbz7572 If that's the case, I have the power to save Ultimate!😤🙏🏼

[@Enviouslordshaxx]

Big Phil with the 11/10 Better Help transition 😂

[@EEvisu]

you already know!

[@wilsonsecaur1015]

Chairs: I have no fear Hbox: *exists* Chairs: one fear

[@restaurantrandy]

Goat hasn't been quite able to secure these top 5s but i love seeing him work through these top players one at a time, getting super close to closing out games even of that g5 went rough. Nature is healing.

[@mbrauner4434]

Cosmos! I love to see him make solid, deep runs at these top-tiers. You have been on fire lately, bro. Allow that confidence to guide you in the coming months. You are a top player and you belong amongst the best in every tournament. Keep it rolling, Mos!

[@jilvermazariegos]

It is sad to talk about losing SWT and Panda Cup, we all lost something and its showing in the quality and quantity of smash tournaments. This is the worst timeline but I pray a new smash game for the switch 2 will eventually change things.

[@TwinHacari]

Japans doin fine lol

[@roberthamelin5637]

​@TwinHacari if not making any money playing smash is "fine" then ya

[@dingo9696]

@@roberthamelin5637 it is, because their players end up being normal people with real jobs instead of social outcasts who want to retire off videogame money.

[@eanderson9599]

@@dingo9696facts

[@playboybrendo103]

Bro istg if Luminosity turns into the new Panda Global , we CANNOT fumble the bag. We need this scene to be bigger fuck being grassroots , it’s time to go to the next level n make this shit pop off.

[@parkerwicht800]

Marss being unsponsered for so long was surprising especially because he has the biggest brand of the top smash ult players. So LG picking him up is a big W

[@gracefuldrowning138]

Light is lookin a little blacker this episode

[@EEvisu]

lmao

[@__BlacklotuS__]

he getting in touch with his BPT hood certified mood

[@brethrenaccuser4021]

Tell Light if he dont start showing up youll chsnge the podcast name to Camp Cosmos

[@jerkstown2231]

Lord have mercy, we must stay focused brothers, we MUST stay focused. Light is in Conneticut clappin' cheeks 🤙 not stayin focused

[@Kuyajericho]

That transistion from hbox pop off to the better help ad was tooooo clean LOL. EE was born for this

[@DarkThomy]

Man, everytime EE pronounces "Akakikusu" I think of that Prozd's skit "When you have a non white name" xD It's crazy !

[@alexlol2428]

Tk is such an awesome guest, hope we see more of him in the future

[@hidalgopika]

it is pretty funny to see the same crowd criticize hbox for literally anything and will reach to the heavens for anything on him, but gave a lot of leniency towards bobby when he was drinking and driving 😂 the melee community is so bias.

[@lokks2130]

People still giving attention to HBox pop offs is crazy to me. Bro was definitely in full control of his emotions when he slammed that chair 😂 could feed a starving village with all that interaction farming

[@lokks2130]

When I say interaction farming I mean HBox btw, not you guys

[@jonny7444]

It was apparently the peak viewership at that popoff and created lots of hype. You want a boring event? Grow up

[@SolidStoned]

​@@jonny7444 throwing a chair is not growing up lol

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@jonny7444 lokks didn't actually criticize the popoff, he just said that it was a little insincere.

[@__BlacklotuS__]

yea they don't compare to Dabuz Demlipz popoffs

[@Oliver-et2ou]

Hbox actually fronted EE and myself our first 100 pack of percs back in the day

[@EEvisu]

truuuuuuuuu

[@__BlacklotuS__]

i could use one now shihhhh

[@dennisd.4726]

30s?? Hbox be wildn that's a $3k front

[@eanderson9599]

“Tweek dismantling Syrup” bro won game 5 last hit

[@Eddiepajor]

He said condone(accidentally of course) 😂😂💀💀 37:56 EE you’re one of the funniest mfs alive brother keep doing you

[@jackmccoy6800]

The better help transition was your best work as a podcaster by far EE. “Consider therapy”💀💀

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

Light be dodging especially after losing to Sonix I was hoping to see EE talk his shit about him getting 9th :’)

[@EEvisu]

im not letting him off the hook, he'll be on next week for the beat down lmao

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

@@EEvisutuning in next week especially if he folds at Momocon after the alleged “local practice” If he win, he secretly went to an underground local or something lmao

[@Inukitsoq]

I will forever and always enjoy TK being on this podcast

[@MasterAbeer101]

It's a great weekend whenever the GOAT Tweek wins a tournament. He was talking and everyone was LISTENING! Also with the Hbox Chair situation I am honestly kinda surprised how much controversy it got but it's Twitter so I shouldn't expect less from that platform 😂 imo it's not that serious of an issue

[@jublusion5]

Great episode this week! I love the HBOX portion, and as a person who has always rooted for people that I think the community treats unfairly. I am extremely happy that we are in an hbox redemption arc. There’s always going to be top player privilege, and HBox well deserves that. HBox pop off is always a known thing that garners a lot of interactions which is amazing for the community. Being down 0-2 in a puff ditto, I would have been extremely disappointed if he DIDNT pop off. As for the chair, it’s Hbox, we can assume that he will pay back the damages. And the TOs probably don’t mind that an all time moment just happened at their event. I loved that TK brought up the panda issue because I feel like it’s something that the smash community has always swept under the rug. I really would have loved to hear more of EE’s opinion, cosmo’s and definitely would love to hear Lights. I feel like the last time Alan was on the show, yalls kept it more neutral. As opinions are changing on that incident, I would love to hear more of it. Of course, I know yalls still have business relations to withhold so understandable that it was mostly TK speaking! At the end of the day though, there was probably nothing the smash community could have done to change that moment. If we simulated it 100 times, the result would still be the same. The community would much rather back a person who has been majorly involved in the community than a person who just recently got involved. It really sucks that this happened though, because I really do miss the PGR and things that Panda did on the side. Panda did not focus solely on tournaments and it’s sad that we lost those passion projects.

[@estebanruiz2429]

23:21 they did my boy dirty man 🤣 setting us back a couple decades

[@RemixkingDystansy]

Love to see My goat win. Cant wait 4 the back to back @ momocon

[@ryosuketakahashi1852]

Tweek came to Japan back in either April or early May 2019 and came to a local in Tokyo that my friends were holding. He played Joker the whole time since he had just released.

[@adamyohan]

EE needs TK on this podcast. The chemistry is unmatched.

[@HaruVibes_]

TK always delivers great vibes and a fun time. Also speaking of great vibes we def need Rod on the podcast some point.

[@ZombieReese]

Having join the Smash community two years ago... Yall really fumbled. Did anyone ask at the time, "is what VGBC saying true?"

[@EEvisu]

Above my pay grade

[@TheQuestion27]

That’s what I would like to know. People also gave into emotions in the heat of the moment. People need to learn to stop making snap decisions based on emotions and feelings.

[@TheVirginMeri]

​@@EEvisuIf you don't ask these questions you won't get paid at all though.

[@abghen2323]

​@DBlue92_ nah bro those dumbasses still think they were right, all over twitter and reddit. Not a single actual tournament goer wanted that shit

[@uchihaclan77]

Lmao Cosmos “someone was definitely snickers writing that script”

[@asianman7945]

The green hbox in the thumbnail be making hbox look like a zombie lmao. Also another heater episode too love listening to yall

[@EEvisu]

he's suppose to be the Hulk lmao

[@Kuyajericho]

Love seeing tk on the cast !!! Another dope episode 🔥

[@ugosinache22]

Liked and re-liked. One of the best episodes all time :)

[@erikrevier4053]

Okay, I let out a real laugh when EE said that they are a "Nintendo Friendly" stream. Fucking LOL

[@lemonpledge7198]

Damn putting together the avengers. Gonna have to start training, trynna be y'all's man on the inside 😤

[@T43055]

TK was throwing in facts

[@Ecstasy-21]

AYEEEEE CAN LISTEN TO THE PODCAST ON MY DAYOFF LETS GOOOO!!!!!!!

[@TwinHacari]

Congrats to sonix THE SECOND PLACE MASTER Bro earned them silvers 👍🏾🥈

[@wolfgangus3381]

When Nintendo hit the community with the new tournament guidelines, there was quite a bit of copium with people saying getting licenses is easy and that once you have it almost nothing is really different. So almost halfway through 2024, was this actually the case, or did it affect the tournament scene overwhelmingly negatively?

[@dingo9696]

It was true though. Tournaments are shutting down due to a lack of money, not because of licenses being hard to get. A lot of tournaments were only afloat because of sponsorship money through the panda pipeline. Its pretty clear that gimr intentionally weaponized the information about licenses to make people like yourself falsely believe that they would be extremely difficult to attain.

[@rambo3rd471]

When Gimr took PM from us, ya'll were laughing... But when Gimr took Panda, no one was laughing anymore... T-T

[@Anonymous25491]

Haven't been to a tournament since shut down of Panda , I will never attend another tournament since I found a part time job instead.

[@StretchDub]

27:10 EE: "We got the new Assassins Creed and we done inserted a N$$ga there" 28:25 The foreshadowing is real!

[@jorgelgarcia6619]

Dud I miss the good old days of the black plague. TK and EE in commentary was GOATed

[@SoraSomaFMAB]

TWEEEEEEK

[@danielgonzalez7153]

Gunfire sound killed me 😂

[@hxrmy]

bro i got so hype when i saw TK 😂 he isnt in the title

[@supermariomaker1734]

Lg might be one of the best esports team in ultimate besides the zeta division in Japan. I consider luminosity to be the second greatest team behind the zeta division and above the team of stride. The goml tournament proves it when two of the finalists were on the same team and they are a content machine with Marss making it even better at recruiting new members.

[@adrielsfx]

Admitting bracket rigging is wild

[@matthewgriffin7763]

TK!! Lights Out stay delivering the good content

[@DrWavy-fq2qk]

Tweek won GOML and aint leave a single one of his opponents untouched by his banana. ALL DIDDY 🐒🍌😤

[@dingo9696]

Oh hell nah

[@TheTvSmash]

Been waiting for this to be uploaded all day so I could listen at work. Now I see it and I am leaving work in 4 minutes. smh.

[@joey5745]

It’s fitting that the Smash community self destructs itself, because It’s the only fighting game where u can easily SD, All jokes aside, I’m glad TK is spittin facts about what happened back then,

[@swordre5805]

no one mentioned the new hero guy who upset Miyaa played smash for only less than 6month. He is a very new guy and he might surpass Acola .

[@EEvisu]

he ain't surpassing acola with hero lmao

[@swordre5805]

@@EEvisu I hope you are right and I might return to this comment xD

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

He's been on Smashmate for less than 6 months. He's probably been playing for longer than that.

[@TwinHacari]

Cant tell me ee wouldnt be at a diddy party 🥳🎉😂

[@EEvisu]

pause mah

[@angusdalton9320]

A band named P.O.D made a song called lights out. Just thought you should know what happens when you search lights out pod

[@chrispitts5999]

I need a TK podcast. He indeed is the goat.

[@Yela_indi]

I think cosmos and light have the some problem as to why they don’t win. It’s because their characters are so unabashedly broken that they actually get tired of winning literally every neutral interaction. Winning all the time actually gets boring for them, preventing them from locking in when it matters. I’m being serious right now, tell me I’m wrong about any of this.

[@TwinHacari]

Wut so you like being a loser?

[@eanderson9599]

Paris Ramirez: *Professional Bag Fumbler*

[@otakumaster4169]

Big fan of tk breezy since the black plague days lol but he can't expect to be picked up by LG when he has openly said hes not that hyped about smash anymore. Plus hes said he wants to get into other fighting games. You can't have your cake and eat it good sir lol

[@TKbreezy]

I’m sponsored by paragon. I don’t expect to be picked up at all and I don’t want to at this point but when we were in talks I would have like a follow up like they said they would.

[@roberthamelin5637]

"Snow always lands on top"

[@JusChez]

Breezy SPITTIN!!!

[@TwinHacari]

Diddys japans #1 played character. Tweek doesnt stand a chance yall better get light out there.

[@dingo9696]

Exactly lol. This is also why japan is comparatively weak against palu. Tweek will struggle very hard in japan.

[@Saucyandrew]

EY WE OUT HERE EE DROPPING BANGER

[@MrShadow0111]

tk speaking the truth here such a shame how it all went down

[@heraldofv3379]

Love how it starts with where is light but they dont know either

[@supermariomaker1734]

Oh my god I just realized sumbato47 is the first tournament in Japan in 2024 where Miya lost to players other than acola he got second at umabora and delta 8 which was all losses to acola that is an insane statistic that the smash wiki should have talked about more and first Luigi major win. This might be EE worst timeline since when can Luigi win majors I guess Raru is build different. Japan finally kicked Miyas ass that was the most insane thing to me in my opinion about that tournament.

[@alottaguala9766]

Bring TK on more

[@TheQuestion27]

Can anyone explain why VG pulled a Majin Vegeta Final Explosion? For the life of me, I still don’t get it. Luminosity is the last stand of trying to do something.

[@EEvisu]

reasons

[@crunchproductions2276]

Not the betterhelp sponsor

[@PurposeDriven7_]

I’m sorry Multiversus looking mid compared to Rivals 2

[@joy5949]

LG keeping smash alive

[@SarahFern23]

Cosmid the 65th place freak God

[@humouringg]

TK was kinda based this episode. What happened with all the money Ludwig raised for VGBC during his invitational?

[@ToucanBinks]

Got y'all with the like and comment 👍

[@justinjumariburner]

Hbox is fully in control of his emotions, he did that for entertainment and it’s obvious, people are so sad and depressed.

[@Axeloy]

the episodes Light isn't here should be titled Light's Out Episode X

[@abcrasshadow9341]

I think majors should just enploy a Hbox tax which is a shitty 50 dollar chair that is his chair every set on stream on stage that is his and it follows him. I think that would be mad funny for a TO to do!

[@Jje261YT]

That Smash T.O. Got connections to Dark Wizzy

[@EEvisu]

LOL

[@alexcoluna]

aye man hbox gave us coinbox and more let the man throw the chair.

[@BC0MBS]

No joke Hbox should be concerned with the people in today's world

[@supermariomaker1734]

Kannibe got 33rd that’s the placement he got. Clearly japan underestimated NA.

[@KryZenGraphics]

While i def disagree with the Hbox takes, as letting celebrities just do whatever never leads to anything productive, always good content none the less, plus its fun seeing my designs pop up in videos

[@TwinHacari]

Smash players beefing over slamming a chair. What a no buns streak does to a mf. Glad i delegated smash to a very small hobby instead of actual commitment

[@AdrianGarcia-uv1bn]

smash factor close registrations like in 5 minutes

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

28:37 o7 Rest in Pyra

[@OniiChanPls]

Dang Light really is always out

[@LuSiDious]

Super Bash Con also could a worked

[@xanander4693]

They done killed cosmos 😭 who will replace him now 😢

[@nathangrim4420]

as long as Hbox pays for the chair its fine

[@eddyspaghettiii]

Week 1 of asking for Goblin to be on the podcast

[@Lerkero]

24:53 - AYO??? EE GONNA DO A HOMIE LIKE THAT???

[@kudokey]

Japanese players who attends GOML actually got better ranking than Delta and Kagaribi

[@ogpaulw33zy47]

Sad to see my boy TKs flame for the game Start to dim 😢

[@WesleyFiles]

Been dimming for awhile.

[@patrickfitzgerald1251]

That Hbox pop off was legendary bro people are so fucking soft I swear to god. Grow up man that shit was hype lmao.

[@JonathanRodriguez-cl8gq]

I am Jonny but am I Jonny nobody??