EFAP #41 - Alchotisms and Chaos... with The Critical Drinker, Jay, Shadiversity and Fringy

[@prkr07]

But the final confrontation between Kylo and Luke DID fit with the theme of failure! It failed to be a good final confrontation.

[@marvalice3455]

don't you get it? Luke _failed_ to actually be there!

[@Telcontar86]

Well played

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Also, how does Rey fit into this "failure is the theme of the movie" claim? What does Rey fail at doing?

[@marvalice3455]

@@KneelB4Bacon sure. Rey _failed_ to make audiences connect with her.

[@robinthrush9672]

@@KneelB4Bacon Failed to turn Kylo to the light. I mean, she's talked to the guy 5 times or so, so she totally should have won him over.

[@crossbones116]

Soon EFAP will evolve into a 24/7 continuous broadcast.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

You say "soon"...i don't think it will be soon enough.

[@dusky5535]

This podcast is forever. No ones ever truly gone.

[@MrFanboy24]

Sooner than Game of Thrones S8E5 Unbridled Rage, at least.

[@SuperHorsecow]

@@dusky5535 Geta didnt stand much of a chance

[@AnAmericanMusician]

Be careful what you wish for.

[@TrajGreekFire]

MauLer: “6 man EFAP is hard to manage" also Long man: *this*

[@Arphemius]

2:31:41 "Things are limited in this finite world." When you realize that Thanos did what he did because he worked in retail for one too many days...

[@dahelmang]

But he's holding an infinity gauntlet...

[@DiZtheJedi]

@@dahelmang Which is a large part of why his crusade is fundamentally flawed.

[@dahelmang]

@@DiZtheJedi yes! He complains about finite resources, then destroys the most powerful magic items we've ever seen! And his plans are so short-sighted.

[@HerohammerStudios]

​@@dahelmangthe real issue with the infinity gauntlet is just that we don't really know what it can and can't do. There's nothing to really imply it can just create unlimited resources on a large enough scale, but they really should've covered that definitively

[@dahelmang]

@@HerohammerStudios yeah when he got the reality stone he said reality can be whatever he wants it to be. But then to actually do whatever he wanted he had to get all the stones for some reason. But then the only thing he could do with it was wipe out half the universe. So if you wanted to set some ground rules maybe he can only transform reality from one form to another, like turning the knife to bubbles, or turning people to dust, or turning dust back into people. If it can gather the dust and the dead souls back into real living people why couldn't he gather space dust back into stars and make them all appropriate sizes for livable planets? Then like the Titan project from Titan AE he could make habitable planets. The possibilities are endless, but he lacks imagination. If he really wanted to help people there are many things he could have done that would have more lasting impact than killing half the population.

[@literalvampirepotbellygobl5629]

Mauler, our freezers are on top of our fridges because we never kneel, you redcoat.

[@thinkwithurdipstick]

blackrave404 then just bend down slightly and use the length of your arms, there’s no need to flop on the floor like some tea-gargling neanderthal

[@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486]

Unless you need to get something from the fridge...... which is likely more often than you’d need to get something from the freezer

[@TheCalamityCain]

Pay no mind to these colonizers, Sean. They just don't know the smell of freedom. >:D

[@rockerknight25]

@@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486 That's what kids and midgets are for. Just don't get a giant midget.

[@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486]

@@rockerknight25 but we need to have giant midgets for diversity!

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

I just want to mention, Shad, your kid makes some great arguments.

[@PViolety]

Very well articulated

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

Yes.

[@TwentyPercentDash]

12-hour EFAP's are objectively the best type of EFAP... in my opinion.

[@bigdiccmarty9335]

The length is implied

[@goalie1703]

Must become standard

[@SaintMaxxi]

Heres the thing... I fucking hate long man. His videos are long, his points are stupid, and the fact that hes popular is proof that KZbin is full of idiots.

[@MalePifko]

@@SaintMaxxi That's very interesting. Tell me more about it. Please

[@SaintMaxxi]

@@MalePifko I dont want to because I dont feel like explaining the definition of objective to you

[@ThatMfTaika]

Oh cool Shadiversity. I legit didn't expect that!

[@bigdiccmarty9335]

The person above me has the big gay.

[@orenalbertmeisel3127]

The Word of Wolf well subverting expectations usually involves something negative so actually no

[@Kavemancast]

"IMA YUGE COM ICK BOOC FAN"

[@SefniAsheforr]

@The Word of Wolf If you brought Quinton on and starting praising TLJ. Now THAT would subvert our expectations......

[@SaintMaxxi]

Mauler debating even drunk is top notch. Next EFAP should be the homecoming response. Since we should stop talking about Spiderman because Spiderman is out now

[@joaopedrolinsmassan6123]

When Mauler was telling his reatail stories, i could just imagine a suited skull working in wallmart lol

[@Narolamamama]

Oh shit, I was scared that Jay would leave because he said he was getting tired. Glad he stick out for the full 12 hours, what a geode boy!

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

I put down agreements.

[@deathsdoor07]

@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Now in FFH, he just wants to fuck instead of saving the world.

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

Hah. It certainly was a _rocky_ road for Jay.

[@MarkIn4D]

God, how can Mauler survive 12 hours without food? Anyhow, those retail stories were hilarious, keep up the good streams.

[@smugalice6206]

His digestive system is exceptionally long.

[@kernal1127]

Your forgetting that he was drinking rum the whole stream.

[@MarkIn4D]

​@@kernal1127 Of course, but for me alcohol only increases the hunger. Guess these Welsh Boys have it the other way around.

[@crossbones116]

Skulls don't need food.

[@artilyon]

@@crossbones116 only grease for the wheels

[@marvalice3455]

so the "decloaking scan" is an obvious analogue for sonar ping, but that still doesn't work for a bunch of reasons. mostly 2 1. the only ships that bother with single sonar pings are submarines, other ships run the sonar constantly. this is because a ping will give away a sub's location, but a surface ship can be seen by eye. so in order to make this analogy work, both ships need to be in stealth and the scan requires a break in stealth. this set up does not work for star destroyers at all, they would run constant scans the way a conventional destroyer runs constant sonar scans. 2. a sub can hide because the ocean is Big, and a destroyer can't look everywhere at once, so even though they are constantly running scans they can stay outside the the view of the destroyer. this logic _cannot_ be applied to a whole planet. that makes no sense. what is more, they don't seem to need to direct the Decloaking scanner, it just lights up everything so again, the analogy just doesn't work. the decloaking scan is the same as the bombers at the beginning of the movie. someone who does not understand war trying to draw from it and only managing to ape a few tropes while making all the characters look like idiots. to anyone who says "it's not about being totally accurate, it's about the *drama*!" I tell them 1 it's called Star *wars* not star sitcom, and 2, if you don't want to focus on battles, _don't add battles_! war is what we are best at, and we will notice if some snooty lizard in a human suit can't get it!

[@mrrm5456]

Mauler streams for 12 hours straight *IS IT POSSIBLE TO LEARN THAT POWER?!*

[@smugalice6206]

Not from a massive.

[@mrrm5456]

@Tesla-Effect Blake Gilbert 😂🤣😂

[@mrmackellar3337]

Mohamed Ramadan not from subjectivity

[@Sigismund697]

Woah 12 hours?

[@SoftisNelaris]

Not from an essayist...

[@Zansatsu-0379]

Mauler's laugh at the Sausage Raider could serve as a mini audition to play the Crypt Keeper.

[@StupidWeb]

The Jay=manager joke started in the Eric taxxon/Jack Saint EFAP#22/23

[@Sinnthedemiurge]

This needs to be documented

[@CDavis49]

The fact that Shad knows Dragon’s Dogma fills me with pure, unadulterated joy.

[@robertf3606]

Such an underrated game.

[@afonsogomes4647]

He has made videos on the game. They are quite good, as usual

[@rowdeemunkee]

I put 5 hour into, i must not have gottem it cause it just didnt hook me. Idk abit too open ended? I usually give open world games 2 separate play sessions to get me invested in the world.and it just did seem to happend. Its alot of peoples favourite so i acknowledge i must be the issue. Bummer

[@HerohammerStudios]

​@@rowdeemunkeeyou're not alone. I play a lot of jrpg's, but it really didn't grab me at all. I lost interest some time after creating a full team of followers

[@samuel5591]

Took me a few tries to get going but found it most fun playing as a tank with a single healer / magic dps pawn to keep me alive. Provided a good level of challenge with minimal pawn gibberish.

[@S4ns]

I didn't like the whole Spider-Man being basically Stark Jr. I didn't like him having an A.I. in his suit and he didn't invent the different web settings. Peter Parker is supposed be a nigh genius with science in his own right, so getting these hand me downs from Tony kinda invalidates one of his defining qualities.

[@crab7405]

S4ns I just accept that Hollywood just purchases the rights to use the image and likeness of whatever dearly beloved franchise. I went from idealist (expect 100% true adaptation) to cynic (whatever, it's gonna suck) to realist (Hollywood buys rights to use established franchise to lure established fanbase but also changes things to get general audience for maximum returns). He really was nothing without the suit until 20 minutes left in the movie where the scene demands he can get out of that sticky situation. Man, Stark is so ahead, I dunno why he even needs a Spider-Man. Put that spider suit on an Iron Man suit and it won't cry at all and do as it's told.

[@dragonknightleader1]

He's Millenial Spiderman. He inherits what people made for him instead of making things himself. That's one of the key differences between Millenials and Boomers. As far as drama is concerned, Stark has replaced Uncle Ben as the father figure for Peter, which is why his character didn't have the ghost of Uncle Ben over him.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

I can accept the suit being made by Tony Stark (it makes more sense than Peter being able to afford all the needed materials), but the A.I. was kind of dumb, and one of the weaker parts of the new Spider-Man (although I like Karen, I will admit her existence is an insult to the character of Spider-Man). And then Iron Spider... again, cool, but kind of steals Spidey's thunder.

[@reneepeck8094]

Alex It doesn’t matter if he is a millennial or not. Peter Parker is still a high intellect genius who should able to make suits of his own accord. Tony basically giving him shit makes it look like he’s an idiot. If they want to make Tony overshadow Ben then that’s completely fine, but how come he hasn’t been mentioned even once? He was the one who teach Peter about responsibility as a hero and Ben died because Peter didn’t have responsibility. Why hasn’t anyone talked about him at all in this universe?

[@SPTX.]

The biggest problem is that we're expected to believe he's Stark's level of genius when none of it has been set up in civilwar/homecoming. I'd be fine with him getting stuff from stark if they had kept it consistent, instead they make him one of the world biggest genius out of nowhere so he can take his place. I mean, never mind not matching historical Peter from the comics, even within their own universe they can't keep their story going straight.

[@lucaseveretts1067]

Jesus, I've never seen Mauler this angry. I WANT HIM TO MAKE A HOMECOMING VIDEO!

[@keithringer7799]

I'm trying to find the time stamp for when he gets mad!!!

[@SleekDiamond41]

@LudvigSky games I’m diving in. Will provide timestamp soon (so like, 12 hours or so) Edit: success! 1:11:43

[@MegaSpideyman]

​@@SleekDiamond41Thanks.

[@besesb]

1:11:42 - MauLer's meltdown. Have to save it somewhere.

[@keithringer7799]

You, good sir, are a legend

[@MegaSpideyman]

It's a very rare sight.

[@KissShotAcerolaOrion]

Amazing timing MauLer, i just finished part 1.

[@AlphaGarg]

same

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

No joke.

[@connormoorerocks]

I couldn't love the Don anymore than I do, thank you to EFAP for creating the worlds most decent character

[@MooncricketsInc]

The epic conclusion to the drunk efap.. Blessed be the Don and all the N Words 🍻

[@mr.potato8270]

Wait wat

[@Fernisvale]

Dragon's Dogma?! Shad, you freaking legend...

[@occultnightingale1106]

Just commenting on the Homecoming/Far From Home stuff I think everyone's problem with MJ is the thing that MauLer didn't really understand. Yes, she's not in the movie for that long. However, that is exactly the problem: by naming her MJ, the writers were clearly telling the audience "She is a significant character to both the story and to Peter Parker." However, she was not given anywhere near enough screen time to justify this significance. She just came of as an edgy teenager trying to undermine people. This is not an Argument from Adaption, because even normie audiences who have no clue about the comics understand the significance of MJ. This is why her portrayal in Homecoming was woefully inadequate: they barely gave her a character to her *and* to Liz, which was disappointing. Both of them could have used a lot of fleshing out, but the writers chose not to give us much of anything for either beyond "Liz is popular" and "MJ is rebellious." And then we come to 1:07:39, when the Drinker talks about the trailer for Far From Home. Yes, MJ makes a joke out of her comment, but that isn't really a defense for her. In fact, it's kind of a further condemnation of MJ as a character, showing that she doesn't really give a shit about someone who is supposed to be a potential romantic interest, and is willing to make him uncomfortable on a date just for a laugh. It's extremely poor etiquette, at the very least, and I very much understand people being put off of the movie by the presence of that joke in the trailer. I understand little of this matters, because Far From Home already came out and the discussions have been had on both it and Homecoming, but I still felt the need to voice this complaint I have with the defenses made for MJ. I feel they are weak and unhelpful in discussing either of the movies.

[@krennicsaspirations4883]

Shad The Serpent Slayer

[@lorddolamite6141]

Praise our lord and prophet, Schloooooongald Blow for allowing this longmin to be viewed in its entirety by proudly standing at attention.

[@Paool]

i love shad. the excitement and energy he has is awesome. he just makes me smile

[@TheRaviotar]

He is a really friendly and positive presence, yeah. A nice counterpoint for the Drinker (who I also think is great).

[@thesultanofswing8706]

​@@TheRaviotar Perhaps there's a factor that plays into The Drinkers attitude, maybe a particular depressant that he consumes copious amounts of. Don't know!

[@danishcartoonist545]

2:53:17 - MauLer correctly predicts that Tonald will appear in Episode 100, not Episode 50, making him somewhat comparable to Oda in terms of foreshadowing!!

[@KeacePeeper]

Oda reference. Legend.

[@PAGrunt]

Took me 3 days to get through the entire EFAP. Thanks Mauler 🤣🤣🤣

[@endrelad1306]

What we kinda forget is thanos nerfed the asgardians 3 times before the time shit. Lots died when hel invaded. Thanos attack on ship. And then the flick to half universal peps. #Asgardianslivesmatters -Bilbo Bell Blessed Don be with us my fellow spiders ^^

[@jonclark1405]

My reason for not liking Homecoming is based entirely on the comics so I guess my argument doesn't matter...

[@forestelfranger]

Yeah they keep going why don't people like this film. Than dismiss it as if it doesn't matter or not valid. Than keep screaming why don't people like this movie. They need to stop efapping so hard or drinking. I think it's effecting their mental ability.

[@mgeiger2341]

@@forestelfranger I think they tried to use batman doesn't kill to support their argument, when he did. With a gun, no less.

[@arenkai]

The idea that people need to be humbled in order to respect retail workers is insane to me. But that's how some people are apparently, basic respect for other human beings isn't in their habits. It always seems like a shock to telephone solicitators when I tell them to have a nice day

[@Wario64100]

Shad: MJ is unlikable Mauler: She’s not in the movie for that long Isn’t this the exact excuse IHE made for the Canto Bight side quest in TLJ?

[@urokhai1270]

Yeah when Mauler said that is kinda pissed me off. Regardless of how much screen time she has she is still a main character thanks to her initials and the impact she has on Peter's life.

[@rockerknight25]

MauLer said she isn't in the film long enough to have much of an impact. Canto Bight is a part of the plot. A needless part.

[@Galvatronover]

MJ isn’t a major part of the plot

[@HerohammerStudios]

Definitely poorly worded. Think I understand what he meant though

[@ponyboy696]

Why would you make up a lie and then put it in the comments of the video that you are lying about.

[@shrek2534]

OH BOY, heres the second part.

[@FecklessDuoYT]

Man, Mauler becomes really pessimistic when he drinks doesn't he?

[@ginge641]

Because he's always so hopeful about the current state of movies.

[@TheWingusDingus]

I'm really tired of hearing massives say "watch a movie for it's themes." How about the movie makes at least a little bit of sense and has some damn consistency. After that, I'll decide if I give a shit about the themes. Spoiler - If one of the themes is a generic "hurr durr capiztaltism be bad cuz casino planet" then I'll think it's shit.

[@kieranholmes8086]

Mauler would you agree that Peter doesn’t even really need to go after Vulture in homecoming at the end? If Vulture had stolen the avengers tech then Tony would’ve finally seen him as a threat and just gone after him himself and get the stuff back anyway surely?

[@forestelfranger]

Yeah i think Mauler needs to talk to people who truly have issues with it.

[@kieranholmes8086]

Forest elfranger Yeah and I think it’s valid for people to complain about no mention of Uncle Ben, guilt is Peters main driving force in most adaptions and I don’t get get that in homecoming

[@joshuaslawson9125]

Hearing Schafrillas say Thor was only there for fat jokes hurt... The dude was depressed and so was doing Levity to hide the pain that he literally lost most of his race and his entire family.

[@StupidWeb]

My only demand is that at some point you do an EFAP on a Game Theory

[@StupidWeb]

CJED it’d be fun (I think) depending on what theory

[@gub4941]

Stupid Webcam god I despise matpat id be glad to see him taken down by mauler and co

[@gub4941]

Stupid Webcam though maybe film theory would be more relevant to efap

[@Nick_Hammer]

i used to work in food service and yeah dealing with customers was far and away the worst part. you either had people who get angry over nothing at the drop of a hat or people who are trying to bullshit you into free stuff. our policy was to replace whenever possible and only give a refund at the last, last resort.

[@JTViper]

So, *this* was the "Tonald on EFAP 100" episode... ...truly the spiders have been kind.

[@worstwordmonger]

I work in retail myself, but this story happened when I was a customer. My friend I was with was asked by an employee if they had a sister who frequented that store. My friend said no, then a few seconds later went up to the employee yelling “Are you hitting on my mom?!” He got management involved and I had to defend the employee from my friend. I still have no idea where that came from

[@IntelligenceBuild]

You got the drinker on, my thanks.

[@АндрейШибанов-о1ъ]

I had to master google translate to tell you guys, that that EFAP was great.

[@omnefarious1455]

[slices and dices in Russian]

[@HerohammerStudios]

But what's the point if you couldn't even understand them? What are you getting out of it?

[@АндрейШибанов-о1ъ]

@@HerohammerStudios i can understand what they're saying, but I not that good at writing stuff in English. Better than 4 y.o. but still

[@HerohammerStudios]

​@@АндрейШибанов-о1ъ fair enough lol

[@willconway6176]

Episode 40/41 is probably my favorite one so far. Always awesome to see Jay, Shads is great, and I'd been looking forward to seeing the Drinker on, hope you guys have him back. EFAP truly is the Avengers of KZbin film criticism.

[@bsgold1329]

MauLer I love Civil War, I do enjoy homecoming, probably rate it currently (haven't seen Spider-verse or Far from home) as the third best solo Spidey film. However I do have a few problems with it, MJ I dislike, I couldn't care about skin colour but her personality is awful, and Shad is right, she is a low key stalker in the film of Peter Parkers. But that her personality is of course subjective. I have to say out of everything is once Spider-man becomes a big deal, or at least after the scene at the Washington Monument, and especially after the Ferry scene where Iron Man had to get involved how come the UN doesn't try and arrest Peter for not being part of the Superhuman registration act, since he wasn't signed before and thats the reason why Tony told him to keep a low profile in the first place. Tony doesn't have the authority anymore after Civil War with what he pulled with Ross to keep Spidey under the radar with some sort of deal (which is why I think Tony tried to get Spidey as an official Avenger at the end) and its not like the government will have a hard time tracking him since he operates in Queens NY, and it all leads back to Stark with the suit, so if he was caught Tony would be faced with some sort of problem, so yeah, my question is basically how come the UN security council doesn't get involved in finding who Spider-man is after those events, like interrogating Tombes, who knows and could cut a deal. There isn't a in movie explanation why, and I don't know if Far From Home explains it but I'll thought I'll bring it up in this comment and hope you have an answer I missed.

[@deathsdoor07]

What do you think of FFH?

[@bsgold1329]

@@deathsdoor07 I will tell you when I see it on Tuesday. Hopefully it will answer some questions like this, or who brought Stark Tower, what was Tombes and Scorpian planning in prison, stuff like that would be nice to find out. However I have seen Spider-verse which I thought was ok, it has some problems, like how does Gwen's Spider sense take her to Vision school and Miles but none of the other Spideys get that. How come Peter B Parker was the only Spider-man to not appear until after Peter Parkers death. But I guess those are minor details to push the plot along.

[@SobriKEyt]

A bit of a bummer to see the hopes that were had for Thor's story arc before Love and Blunder came out. There's just so much that could have been done as opposed to what we got

[@massivetism]

Holy shit that moment where Wolf played the ice cream truck music when they were talking about homecoming XD glorious

[@wrayday7149]

Easiest way to know Tony Stark is the badman in Civil War. He demands a world government consensus before the Avengers take action... then proceeds to not ask permission from said governing body but also taking a child into combat which is against the law, and in direct violation of many treaties in many of the supporting nations.... /oops.

[@80krauser]

Same said government that allowed Hydra to subvert and grow for 70 years unimpeded. How did the entire world get overturned by that?

[@Neo2266.]

We want more stories from the SkullWheel toy shop

[@neropunkt]

wouldn't that have been the coolest hot wheel in like 2008 though?

[@HerohammerStudios]

​@@neropunkt it existed and it was.

[@wsimmons920]

Rey: ok students just close your eyes and when you open them youll know everything Students: it didnt work Rey: well obviously youre not as good as me. You should all give up because youll never be better than you already are so if you cant do it now you never will bestestest jedi eVaR

[@Phiro00]

Oh my god, i just stumbled across this channel and its amazing, time to dedicate my whole life to binging everything here, rip free time

[@athosdumas4360]

Belated comment, but I am slowly working my way through the EFAP catalogue and felt compelled to leave a comment. MauLer; I completely agree with your assessment on working in retail or hospitality. Everybody should do around 3 months in either sector, like compulsory military service, and it would go a long way to changing the way some people treat each other.

[@rockerknight25]

I want my children to work a summer in retail and a summer in fast food. But first I need children. Also, this might be a terrible idea, so I think I need to kidknap someone else's kid to try it on.

[@JoeRobertshaw]

​@@rockerknight25 I hear the Don has some orphans to spare...

[@JoeRobertshaw]

Fellow EFAPer workin' through here

[@SefniAsheforr]

Objectively, Homecoming is a good MCU film. But as a person whose favorite superhero has been Spider-man his entire life, I hate a lot about it. It feels like such a childish, shallow iteration of the character.

[@DiZtheJedi]

Strange. I disliked it because I've got no real connection to Spider-Man whatsoever. After it fell short for me, I thought I'd never find a Spider-Man story I liked... then Marvel's Spider-Man for the PS4 came out, and I was confused. Ultimately, I just don't find the awkward kid element of Spider-Man to be charming at all.

[@SefniAsheforr]

@@DiZtheJedi The awkward kid element is fun, but people confuse it as his main trait even though most of his best stories were when he was an adult. The Venom saga, Kraven's Last Hunt, and many others were set with a more mature, adult Peter. He still quips to hide his fear and trip up his opponents, but he's not a bumbling kid worrying about prom and shit. He is more concerned with balancing his superhero responsibility with his responsibility to his aunt, MJ, his job/s, and his scientific ambitions. He's the opposite of Batman who buries a personal life in favor of his mission, while Peter embraces his personal life and still feels an immense responsiblity to prioritize his role as Spider-man. He has a guilt complex and personal sense of responsibility due to Ben's death (which Homecoming and FFH completely ignore because of "muh whacky fun). He's actually a deeply mature character who's been misinterpreted as a silly, awkward teen. He was only that way early on and then grew up like a regular human. These movies completely missed the point of the maturity and confidence that he gains due to Spider-man as well as the heavy burden that it plays on all aspects of his life. Not just silly trips and dates.

[@Adorni]

Oh god. Now I have a mental image of the Death Star firing on a planet, and Rey is just... force-flying and Force-punching the beam, Max Fleisher Superman style. It even has Superman’s music set to it. Thanks, Drinker.

[@albertocruzado2899]

More like Dragon Ball then.

[@GAdmThrawn]

When you guys look into Homecoming videos, you should bring in Jeff from WCBS. He is a big Spider-Man fan and he has changed his mind on the movie since it came out and not for the better.

[@forestelfranger]

Yeah it seems it would be for the best. Given that way they could deal with someone who is not chat and would be able to more easier state their point of views. Due to no character limit and not being flooded by others, having their messages hidden. That way they could reply to someone on more even footing. Rather than going why do people dislike this movie i'm emotional connected to. Given Mauler has to be just a tad stupid, if they think chat is going to be able to put up a reasonable counter part. Given how often chat will get flooded with a new meme or something that would wipe away the counterpart. Given it's already hard enough to explain their point with the character limit. That and given how easy it is to miss their next point or post where they explain their reasoning to a greater degree. Given it's alot like twitter. It's not a platform for communication, it's a platform of misunderstanding. Given heck i am rather sure my post here is alot longer here than what i could post with the character limit on chat.

[@alikahubbert52]

“This womb shall be your doom” -Rag

[@alexhayden219]

I really do like Homecoming quite a lot. Tom is the best Peter/Spidey and Keaton is one of the MCU's best villains. It's one of the better written MCU movies. BUT, I agree with the things HiTop has a problem with. So, I'd love for you to cover it and deep discuss it.

[@christianbjorck816]

I’ll stand by saying Homecoming is a really solid film, but a terrible Spider-Man film. If the source material don’t matter then it could have just been called Iron-Boy with a new character that is somewhat similar to Spider-Man and that would be fine. It’s just too many changes that I just can’t get behind and Tom Holland isn’t that great as the character honestly.

[@alexhayden219]

@@christianbjorck816 I just can't agree here. It is a good Spider-man film. Yes, things are changed. Part of it is certainly the rights issues, but I'm sure some things would be changed, anyway, because it's the third version in a relatively short time. Some of those changes do annoy me quite a bit, but I think Tom is the best version of the three. I like the way he fits into the universe and the relationship he had with Tony and how that affected him. In spite of the differences and the way he fits into the universe in a (i think) nicely cohesive way, I think he is still very true to the character. I don't think that a completely 100% accurate to the 60s source would fit well as a movie taking place today or as a part of the MCU that would make any sense. I think that the character is intact and reacting mostly well to the circumstances he finds himself in. Yeah, Ben's unmentioned, some of the Miles stuff has been transplanted into Peter's life, other characters have familiar names but unfamiliar faces and personalities. I'm annoyed by it, but I also like most of it. But Peter is Peter. I think his character is pretty well intact and he's simply in an alternate universe, reacting to it the way Peter would. And I think in costume, Spider-man is the best he's ever been. He's proven himself without Stark Tech and he's made his own tech. He's Peter and Spidey through and through, but does have certain advantages the classic young Parker didn't have. All of the MCU characters have been altered to some degree, while staying mostly true to the spirit of their source. I love the first two Raimi movies, but they changed quite a bit about the character and reinterpreted things, too. Garfield was written as the worst Peter. Even though names were the same and it was technically closer to the source, it was a terrible two movies and the character of Peter Parker was a mostly unrecognizable person. Anyway, just my opinion and I'm sure we won't agree. I'm glad that you think it's a solid film, in spite of not thinking it's a proper Spidey. In spite of the differences from source, I think it's one(two) of the better MCU films.

[@ww2-epicbattles]

EFAP with Major Lee is my favourite episode. I have watched it 5 times.

[@smugalice6206]

So you were never bored?

[@ww2-epicbattles]

@@smugalice6206 no I always laugh my ass off. Sometimes at my boring job I let it play. It gives me a good time. The way Major Lee desperately tries to find excuses for that shitty movie and Mauler with Rags can't believe it "whaaaa...." I lose my shit every time. Or when Vito says about Battlefront "is there a mini game with Luke Skywalker where I can drink green milk? I would definitely play this one" XD

[@devyboo2]

EFAP 3 is objectively the best EFAP, in my opinion

[@JoeRobertshaw]

​@@smugalice6206 I giggled

[@erizpeek2797]

Two parter!? The cosmic chicken blesses us this week

[@thewickerman5121]

Got to say that Mauler’s defense about MJ being bad is pretty terrible. Her barely being in the movie doesn’t rid the problem of her character.

[@leinadhtims]

Have you seen the trailer to the new Rian Johnson film, "Knives Out?" Looks like a Clue knockoff but not funny. Or good.

[@ginge641]

It looks like the most dreadful think to come out of cinema since...the last thing Johnson put in cinemas.

[@danielboyle1647]

And here we are with it being a really good movie

[@AnAngryMarauder]

@@danielboyle1647 no it was utter shite.

[@forestelfranger]

Mauler. Your straw poll has a flaw in it for homecoming. There is no the movie is just ok. You only have good or bad. Thus forcing someone who thinks it ok to not vote or vote for it's good or bad, due to having to think if the good or bad outweight one another.

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

That might be a Straw Poll problem (I've never used it myself, don't know if there is an option for 3+ choices). Otherwise, I agree.

[@yor9783]

@@insulttothehumanrace3807 You can make many choices, not just 2

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

@@yor9783 Ah, I see. So it was just in how MauLer put it together. Thank you for informing me.

[@raymondrmrz0244]

He literally said that if you think the movie is okay, don’t vote

[@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486]

Are you trying to tell me that a straw poll put together in 5 seconds by drunk hosts after 6+ hours of a podcast was flawed?

[@vashviper9346]

The new MJ put a sour taste in my mouth when I watched it. As a character she's irrelevant in homecoming, you can replace her with literally any character and it serves the exact same purpose. Plus she has this insufferable social justice ideology crap, she's not a character in the movie she's a meme. I still REALLY like the movie for everything else but whenever O think homecoming. Sadly the only thing that comes up is that terrible MJ moment.

[@robinthrush9672]

I don't know what Peter sees in this MJ. Her personality clashes with his so much and he doesn't really seem to get her sense of humor. Just feels like a superficial crush that should have faded as he got to know her better.

[@mgeiger2341]

Wasn't it originally gonna be Liz and then mj shows up at the end?

[@castleaether1965]

35:53 This was the same dude who, when asked, said that Rose Tico was attractive. THAT is the level of Major Lee's delirium.

[@radf-zf7ev]

Oof, I didn't see The Not So Great Debate. Reckon I'll have to now. Major Lee was a damned train wreck, frankly, it's hard to imagine someone did worse than him.

[@winkles2314]

You’ll be frustrated, but at a certain point it just gets funny.

[@neropunkt]

it's gold. have you seen the just write debate?

[@CyberBolt21]

1:07:40 Mooler triggered over spoodermin 1:12:23 Wolf pizza alarm

[@childhoodisthatyou9869]

Hitop films videos on Homecoming and Far From Home are VERY accurate and I even like Homecoming. You guys will have a hard time tearing his video apart.

[@Hashbrown1682]

I dunno man the toxic brood is blessed by The Don

[@childhoodisthatyou9869]

@@Hashbrown1682 Why are you talking about The Don, Spider-Man is coming out.

[@ginge641]

My sarcasm sense is tingling.

[@khankrumgaming8926]

2:33:00 That customer who waited for you tto search for his item and then simply said "OK" when you couldn't find it, has experience in retail or customer service. That's why I think that every teenager needs to have experience working retail or in customer service, it will ground them faster than a slap to the face.

[@milkbutter117]

2:58:04 Starts the Skittles debate

[@SefniAsheforr]

Love the discussion about retail. Thank you for that. I worked at Walmart for 2 years and right now I'm working at Sprouts (have for a year). Retail can be hell as you put it. Depending on the place and customers though, it can be a decent job. Sprouts is the best job I've ever had and makes life a little easier since I don't dread work like it's the gallows pole everyday. But people who've never worked retail will never understand what we actual deal with and how it all works. The amount of times I've been asked "can you check in the back?" over the most trite shit is just 😑

[@deathsdoor07]

Or when they want you to unlock the glass doors even when you tell them the department is closed and the keys are locked away.

[@kevind807]

Now I need a Dark Souls style game as Shad where you battle your way across the Australian outback.....

[@teddyharvester]

Silly Mauler, you think Episode IX will provide answers and conclude plot points... They never had an idea for this series to begin with and I'm pretty confident that they have no idea how to finish it now as well.

[@Le-cp9tr]

WHEN DID I MISS ALL THESE EFAPS?

[@thekunninglinguist2397]

Le0 90 1 happened on Sunday evening US time. They split it up in two parts after they got to seven hours in Ep 40 then WB blocked Ep 40 almost immediately so both episodes couldn’t be uploaded until Mauler got that settled

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

0:00 \Alcohol talk/ 1:20 \What it would take to repeal the Emancipation Proclamation/Supreme Court Discussion/ 2:00 \Mauler plans to set up the memes while waiting for everyone else/ 2:30 \Shad has returned/ 3:04 \Meme time!/ 4:36 \Wolf has returned/ 5:13 \Thanos Madea, with the Don and his sidekick Rags/ 7:09 \Meme break over, back to the video/ 7:34 \Video Starts/ 8:47 \How does Luke Skywalker save everyone, discussion about the Millennium Falcon or other ships being able to ferry out people during space chase/ 11:00 \It’s still paused, discussion shifts to “decloaking scan” in Last Jedi/ 16:16 \Another Brief Meme Break/ 18:56 \Video resumes............ for four seconds. They discuss about what Last Jedi Luke ‘learned’/ 20:33 \”You need to kill your family members when you realize they’re being evil” -Mauler/ 21:46 \”WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE SAYS NO. He says no to saving Kylo’s soul,” -Mauler. Luke wasn’t positive in TLJ, etc/ 23:44 \Luke’s death wasn’t meaningful in TLJ, what does he do and accomplish in TLJ? How does he even die?/ 25:34 \Quote from video, “Luke’s death scene it’s not pointless!.... Shut up! It’s like saying Obi Wan’s death scene was pointless, watch the movie for the theme,” Obi Wan in a New Hope is far more logically written then Luke in TLJ, his motivations are clear/ 29:30 \Video still paused. Question from viewer, “Mauler, where do you draw the line between writing a movie to interpreting the movie.”/ 31:46 \People’s head canon on Rey absorbing Kylo’s force knowledge and abilities, it’s still paused/ 33:40 \People’s defense of TLJ is all based on emotion and subjective-tisms, objective standards don’t matter to them etc. 36:00 \Still paused “He’s, he’s famous for saying you should just look at women and that’s a reason to like the movie.” -Wolf. I think this is a majorlee quote not sure 42:46 \”The entirety of the debate guy’s arguments were something to the effect of ‘well, you see, Luke is old,’ and, my personal favorite. ‘I’m axing you, is this part of the Disney fanatical Star Wars universe?’”-Wolf/ 44:10 \Kylo and Rey touched fingers therefore they are in love/ 48:00 \Back on track. Video continues/ 51:06 \”Watch a movie for its theme and subtleties for once instead of taking everything at face value. STOP COMPLAINING THAT OLD MAN CAP MAKES NO SENSE, it’s beautiful!”-Quote from video 51:56 \Shad claims that old man cap can make sense, discussion ensues/ 53:37 \Mauler has challenged the Warner Brothers copyright claim on EFAP #40, discussion about fair use and copyright claims/ 57:47 \Video continues/ 58:18 \Thor has no endgame, is/isn’t worthy of leadership, etc/ 1:04:26 \Spiderman Homecoming/Far from Home, lots of people hated homecoming apparently and thought far from home would be bad/ 1:06:27 \MJ in homecoming annoyed Shad, she isn’t likable, is self possessed and arrogant/ 1:11:43 \Mauler has a tism live on air/ 1:14:36 \Stuff about homecoming that Shad liked/ 1:16:59 \What would you give homecoming out of 10/ 1:20:00 \Mauler loves Captain America civil war, so does all the other guests, (besides Wolf)/ 1:22:18 \Critical Drinker’s only criticism of Captain America Civil War/ 1:23:30 \Rags interrupts Mauler when he starts playing the video again to ask about Interstellar/ 1:24:38 \Video resumes/ 1:32:18 \Rags asks what is Wolf’s favorite Lord of the ring movie/ 1:35:53 \Video resumes yet again/ 1:36:18 \Critical Drinker, paraphrased, “All this ties into is the idea that you don’t like something therefore you don’t understand it”/ 1:37:30 \Video resumes, Luke’s ending compared to Thor’s is apparently more mature and poetic. Also Shad and Critical discuss Fat Thor and how he is self conscious now/ 1:40:40 \Shad cries out like a baby live on stream/ 1:42:00 \Video resumes/ 1:42:19 \Thor’s story will still be continued, Iron Man and Captain America’s story was wrapped up In Endgame. Mauler thinks they have plans for Thor/ 1:43:01 \Paraphrasing Critical Drinker, “But what can you do with Thor’s character now?” 1:45:00 \Even if JJ had a plan Rian would have veered away from it anyway/

[@jolean_cujoh]

Thank you sir. Your efforts are greatly appreciated 👍

[@mrmackellar3337]

Just as i finish episode 40, i see this come up, perfect timing Mauler ❤️

[@stupendous7848]

Saw Far From Home last night. It had some good moments, but i think overall I’d put it in Thor: TDW territory.

[@devyboo2]

I'm curious to see what the viewer dropoff will be after endgame

[@forestelfranger]

Yeah Mauler can';t seem to get the idea maybe the movie wasn't good but ok. Maybe it was ok. Given just due to something being bad doesn't mean it's good. It can just be ok. It can just be ok.

[@jebalitabb8228]

I’m not used to being in the minority lmao I thought the movie was great

[@jebalitabb8228]

Phil Mike Hunt the PS4 game is definitely way better although I might just be fanboying over the endcredits & that’s making the rest seem better lol

[@forestelfranger]

Mauler at the end of this you say Homecoming is a decent movie. Which is different from the term good you been using this whole time. Decent would apply it is of a lesser quality than good.

[@Leotheleprachaun]

I just realized something when they were talkin'aboot Pepper and that Extremis lady havin a chat. Pepper has that shit inside her still, what are the longterm side-effects of having it but not having continued doses....and what are the effects on Morgan?! Is she some kind of hybrid mutant??

[@challengingyou212]

They covered that in the shit fest that is iron man 3. "I almost fixed the issue in 1999 when I was drunk I think i can fix it now" he could've fixed it at any time but didn't because then the big bad would be an even bigger bad apparently.

[@99IronDuke]

Love The Critical Drinker's channel, really good takes.

[@lordjimbo2]

The first five minutes of this had me in tears and I didn't think anything could top it. And then 2:57:20 through 3:02:20 happened.

[@gilsonpassos1047]

I am not attached to the comics at all, MJ jokes sucks anyway.

[@denkerbosu3551]

Exactly! Calling her MJ was just the cherry on top.

[@icameisawicringed6644]

Rags's's = Best Scottish accent ever!

[@Arturhorn]

feels good to see ones art on efap, and hear you guys chuckle at it ^^ Cheers!

[@therobotchickenMLP]

Rags's (I think it was him) summary of The Not So Great Debate is spot on. That shit was amazing.

[@Miyuki2319]

20:45 Being from the future and having seen what Rise of Skywalker becomes, this is actually a thing that the trilogy is about now.

[@Fesquishety]

Update on the guy whose video you covered, Glass Onion was in his top 5 films of last year, and Rian Johnson is one of his favourite creative people alive and active. Reee. It's been fun to rewatch some early EFAP, though, lots of classic memes!

[@herrikudo]

Approx. 1:12:00 he didn't tell Peter the FBI was on it they continuously acted like it wasnt anything to Peter

[@Muck006]

1:44:40 Obviously the way to "fuck up Thor's character" is to MARRY HIM TO CAPTAIN -MARVEL- Plank ... and use him as a drunken deadbeat dad while "brave mommy Plank saves the world". It could be the Gillette ad in movie form. This is something they COULD do ... if they are smart and preserve Spider-Man and dont team him up with Captain Plank while persisting with the "the force is female" and "M-she-U" propaganda.

[@SeiferTV]

I didn't know Shad was here. I thought it was shadman for a second.

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

Gobbledygook is my life. I hate myself.

[@thegaminggman266]

Speaking of horrible moments in retail one time a woman walked up to me and asked where the diapers were and I told her “I’m sorry I don’t know where they are but I can ask one of my coworkers”. She told me not to bother, about 20 minutes later came back, asked for the manager, and demand for me to get fired for wasting her time for not knowing where they were. I worked in the the back of the meat department packaging up the meat and occasionally coming out to restock.

[@SaintMaxxi]

Also God damned, fringy, turn your mic down! Literally heard every click from his mouse, and spoon being banged against a plate.

[@christianbjorck816]

Homecoming is a great film? *Insert JK Simmons laugh right here*

[@ProxyDoug]

After the MauLer pointed out the laser cut behind Luke, it was easy to see it around every character even in motion.

[@janehrahan5116]

Jay, im axing you, please watch the great debate (and never watch lotr just to mess with wolf). Great efap everyone.

[@aTalkingKoala8294]

Merely axing him wont be enough. You must pay rhino milk as tribute

[@robinthrush9672]

Or at least pretending to have never watched it while dropping tidbits and using the books as an excuse for knowing them.

[@randomwhittyname41]

How could the EFAP get this long? "How many sides are on a skittle, and if you invert it is the S still an S?" "I'm not a Skittle connesurier!"

[@alexlee4154]

If schaffy is on efap that that makes him a twist villain SO NOW THE TIER LIST LOOKS LIKE THIS!

[@neropunkt]

i got that reference

[@kevinnigins9488]

Alex Lee ahahahahahahahhah (inhales) ahahahahahahahahahahadhahah

[@CornishMoose]

I know it’s one of those “it wasn’t in the movie so it doesn’t count” cases but the Russos explained in an interview that Cap jumped back into an alternate timeline with Peggy and then returns to the main timeline for the shield hand off, just not to the pad. They said they might explain it in future media. So it fits with the way time travel was established in the movie.

[@dragonknightleader1]

Which is why the Multiverse is such a bad idea for the MCU. Suddenly all weird stories get shoved into alternative universes so that no one has to care about continuity. So, here's my explanation of how we get old Cap. We see a total of THREE universes in Endgame. The first one is the one with dead Thanos, the second one is where Loki got the Tesseract (which rightfully should have fucked the Time Heist), and the third one where Tony meets his dad and Steve meets Peggy. So, Cap returns the Tesseract to universe 3 after going to universe 2 for all the other stones where he lived out his life with Peggy. Which means he waited 70 years to come back as an old man to give his shield away when he could have done that as a young man. So he Steve got inexplicably lazy. Why? Much like every Universe 3 scene, character epilogues matter more than the story itself and if that means deus ex machina to do it, so be it. Which is why Endgame isn't that good of a movie. It doesn't even obey its own fantasy rules well.