EG4 12000XP Isn't Just More Of The Same

[@rodneyhunt]

Yeah really like the specs on this unit! EG4 made a great decision changing all inverters to luxpower. Good work

[@TheWickerShireProject]

Love hearing you talk about solar. Feels like a podcast!

[@Jasonoid]

Just bought me a 6000xp for a fun project, looking forward to seeing how it works.

[@P81OS2]

Thank you for the awesome breakdown! This is gonna be one heck of a unit.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Good breakdown of the specs. I’m looking forward to seeing this inverter.

[@johnguilbert1349]

Excellent video!

[@BeeneEnergy]

Thank you!

[@ReverendGreg]

Welcome back sir!

[@richardcox4772]

Good stuff Mr Beene.

[@cainweber1978]

I have a Sunsynk (Deye) max 16 8:47 kW since May in the UK with 13kW panels. 60kW UFO batteries 🔋 been moist ever since charging my Tesla for free. The Sunsynk interface is amazing and can be programmed from your phone. I limited battery output to 100amps (5kW) and residual to make high loads can come from solar or grid or both at once, ie 3 inputs sources of energy which is crazy. Very impressed so far.

[@JM-yx1lm]

Wow thats pretty powerful!!

[@wbarkwell]

Love your approach to discussion about this new XP ... For a novice at all this ,,, FYI - I am not using any solar ... I am using GRID to XP (LOAD) to a Critical Load breaker panel to service a portion of my house. Question #1 - If I can feed 100 Amps from the Grid to this inverter, why can I only get 50 Amps out to the LOAD ? Question #2 - I see there is a SMART LOAD option but can I combine the regular LOAD with the SMART LOAD to generate a 100 Amp combination out to the Critical Loan panel ? Question #3 - If the XP has a 100 Amp bypass and I have limited the Critical Load panel to 50 Amps (assuming the batteries are full) where does the other 50 Amps of the 100 Amps go ?

[@BeeneEnergy]

Oh sure so the way that works is if the grid is up and the inverter is in bypass mode using grid to power the loads then up to 100a can flow through from the grid to the loads. If the grid is down then the inverter can supply 50 amps (12kw) to the loads. If the grid is up and the inverter is supplying loads via battery and solar but loads call for more than 12kw/50a the inverter should drop into bypass mode and pull all of the energy from the grid instead of the inverter going into overload and shutting off.

[@blackknightruffneck3205]

wow... I m that guy...I have a growatt 5k...Thinking of next unit

[@BeeneEnergy]

Ha ha I found you! Curious, what has you looking for something different? What does or doesn’t work well with the 5k?

[@LivingthedreamDIY]

Glad to see you putting out more videos. I’m going to have to look at getting one of these next. Can you tie this one to the 6000xp to the 12000 or will it have to be two separate systems?

[@BeeneEnergy]

Thanks! I’m trying! I haven’t looked at paralleling but suspect it cannot parallel with the 6000xp.

[@LivingthedreamDIY]

@ I have a few videos going out this week that I talk about your help

[@AskIveSolar]

Welcome back my man, hope all is well. Me and setite were just taking about you. How's business?

[@BeeneEnergy]

Thanks Ive! It’s good to be back. Business has been…busy. Which is good but it’s taken me away from here! Need to get back with you guys and collaborate on some things.

[@UnkyjoesPlayhouse]

still a HF invertor, even though I have the 6000XP and use it for my mini splits, I wonder if it will last as long as my Victron 48v 3000 va lf invertor ""powers the house loads" I bought the 6000XP as it was too good of a deal to pass up.

[@davefroman4700]

You can run a 5 ton air conditioner on this thing with ease. And not worry about the well pump kicking in at the same time either.

[@gb6041]

​@@davefroman4700 I think the question was about longevity between Victron and EG4

[@RETRIBUTION_TIME]

Great. Maybe this will flood the market with used 6000XP units. Save this poor boy some coin.

[@BeeneEnergy]

Hey that’s one way to look at it! Already saw someone wanting to dump their brand new 12kpv in favor of one.

[@SmithOffGrid]

I’m just hoping they come out with a 3kW LuxPower variant to replace the 3000EHV

[@lunatik9696]

In off grid mode you can run a generator as input to charge the batteries.

[@BeeneEnergy]

Oh yeah that’s how you free up the gen port for an ac coupled device or smart load right? And off grid mode prevents back feeding the generator through the grid port. So many settings to change, lol.

[@SetitesTechAdventures]

The spec I am excited for is that it says 24kW AC pass through. I just want an inverter that can pass through enough power to run the big stuff that's not good for solar. I have been hoping tona oud getting an 18kPV. Since I bought through a reseller they won't give me the trade in deals.

[@BeeneEnergy]

Yeah and the fact two of them are less than a single 18kpv but double the ac output is pretty slick. I want to see double 28kw solar arrays on a double 12000xp, lol. Thats a beefy system.

[@farside87]

I'm curious what the noise level is with this machine compared to two 6000xps.

[@BeeneEnergy]

Yes I’m excited to see as well.

[@CarlWilcox-n6r]

Do you install these for people

[@jamesg6071]

I have the new midnite aio but if this was coming out a few months ago I probably would’ve gone this route

[@BeeneEnergy]

How are you liking it? I've seen it but haven't touched it. Any bugs you've had to deal with? Do you know if it's a rebadge of another brand or is it a Midnite original?

[@jesusdominguez4874]

For the 12000xp, do you guys see any issues starting with just 1 eg4 wall mount battery and then picking up another one later on for the recommended 400ah battery

[@BeeneEnergy]

It won’t hurt anything but it could be a nuisance. I had a 5kw 48v inverter connected to a battery that was 95a output. A circular saw would use more than that at startup and trip the inverter/battery.

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

The 5 year warranty on this XP model is a show stopper IMO. The KPV's have a 10 year warranty.

[@BeeneEnergy]

Curious your thoughts on that. I think the grid the inverters have to be 10 years for financing and installers as they have minimums. I was looking at midnite and outback and it seems they are standard at 5 year. I mean don’t get me wrong 10 is better but maybe 5 is the industry standard for off grid.

[@samfish6938]

I would buy all your solar now as Trump's tarrifs may add 60% to the price

[@theMekanik]

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@bobmonztr]

Remove 2 panels and you have 1 string, insane pv , 38x 745w (warree?) panels to max out, or 56x 500w panels, 10k in panels on sale. 3kw+pv in heavy rain with dark clouds. This is going to fuel my solar addiction, Lux enablers.

[@mikekrueger3929]

Is 70w ideal consumption a lot?

[@BeeneEnergy]

No I think it’s reasonable. I was only ranting that it’s slightly higher than the 6000xp.

[@Solarbitcoin]

why only 5 year warranty? Will it only last that long? interested in it but want something that will last

[@BeeneEnergy]

5 years seems to be standard for off grid inverters. Midnite and Outback are the same.

[@davefroman4700]

I'd say the most exciting thing about this unit is the 50 amp smart load. If off grid people realize just how much heat they can actually store up for the winter? These things are going to sell like hot cakes.

[@cb.7814]

Could you please explain what that means?

[@davefroman4700]

@@cb.7814 Ive basically built myself a miniature version of this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIuchayAZseEabs

[@davefroman4700]

@@cb.7814 Do a KZbin search for Polar Night Energy. Ive basically built myself a small version of their design. And buried it next to my house. You can copy anyone, as long as you are not selling it to others for profit.

[@theMekanik]

Is grid tie ??

[@BeeneEnergy]

This unit will not export to the grid. It can pull from the grid as needed.

[@styes1]

I which they had more variety of inverter like an 8k or 10k😔

[@Time-Trvlr]

Exporting power, It is critical for the inverter to sequence the sinusoidal waveform with the grid. If it connects and is out of phase there is a short circuit up to the capacity of the inverter.

[@danielcraig9349]

lol If electricians had a calendar for their 'models', this dude would be December. lol ( my gf said he's cute af.. does not do good for my ego) lol

[@BeeneEnergy]

Ha ha made my day.

[@lifewithbootstrap2087]

only 2 mppts is kinda a drawback

[@BeeneEnergy]

That is going to be interesting. We going back to combiner boxes? Gonna need three strings of panels to max out an input unless it’s 650w 40voc monsters.

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

Grid providers do not have the time or manpower to investigate individual consumption idiosyncrasies. Your entire streets power consumption is completely with the utilities margin of error.

[@BeeneEnergy]

I have multiple stories of people getting a knock on the door from the utility due to odd power usage. One was using an eg4 off grid inverter and it was back feeding the grid occasionally and the other had gone off grid so their monthly consumption was zero and utility had to come by and check they hadn’t bypassed the meter. Two different utilities. So yes they find the time apparently.