Goodbye EG4 Powerwall... Hello to the RUiXU Lithi2-16 LFP - Only $0.21 Per WH

[@danielking2944]

When I bought my EG4 server rack batteries I paid $1,621 with taxes and picked them up one at a time in SS Texas. It’s great to see the reduction in cost and improvements in quality in just a few years. I don’t regret having paid a little more as an early adopter since my DIY self consumption system is paying for itself quickly. Even if this battery is a little less expensive I will still buy expansion batteries at Signature Solar because they are close by and have been very helpful to me with their customer service.

[@i_LOVE_solar]

That's a great deal on a storage battery! 16kWh, sheesh! Nice setup.

[@jamesg6071]

Yep looking to buy 2-3 of these in addition to my existing eg4 14.3kwh wall mount but may just buy the 50kw server rack setup from Ruixu

[@offgridgarageUSA]

I built my Gobel Power DIY 16kwh LifePo4 battery with Pace BMS on rollers (vertical like yours) for $2370 (14.8 cents per kwh).

[@Jasonoid]

Excellent price! How long would you say the install and assembly took?

[@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity]

I bought my Apexium diy kit with 314 Ah cells and jk BMS. Same price from Docan.

[@rooter-c5c]

Same here. Went with the Yixiang DIY box. $600 for box with JK 200A BMS. 16, 304Ah cells from 18650 store for $1,328. Perfetly happy with it.

[@Mike-01234]

Not certified as an ESS with any inverter most AHJ's are requiring ESS 9540A which means battery and the inverter have to be certified together. EG4-18kpv and their power pro battery have this certification. Verify with your AHJ, and Electric utility you can legally use the RuiXU.

[@mikeq5664]

Good video... enjoy ur Chanel. Those busbars are nice..... ur feeding ur panel with 240 volt twist lock? From the Eco Flo How many watts can you put through that ?

[@Jasonoid]

240v 30 amp cable is good for 7200 watts.

[@johntate5284]

In these days of more inflation, it's great to see this big battery come in at 21 cents per watt. Better put some kind of brackets or straps on the thing as it looks like it could be a potential tipping hazard. But, taking up so little floor space is a big plus. Can't wait to see you tackle this DIY project and take us along! Thanks for the initial look at this massive and relatively inexpensive battery!

[@Jasonoid]

It will be a fun project! Gotta decide on the inverter.

[@ruixubattery]

It comes with bracket then you can mounted the big battery to the wall

[@humanplaystation]

12000 eg4 off grid with 24k solar plugged in​@@Jasonoid

[@Thorthedognj]

show how hooked to eco flow please

[@fr373969]

I wonder if you can put 6000xp flat on the top of it, make it a mobile stand setup

[@toxin440]

I have a 6000XP on my 2x EG4 Indoor batteries. Granted, they are only 14.3kw but the way it integrates seamlessly with the inverter/conduit box/battery are worth the slight less capacity. LifePO4 anything from just about any brand is going to be rock solid and give fantastic service life. It's nice to see competition

[@Jasonoid]

I wouldn't consider this mobile due to its weight. I mean you can roll it around but any sort of lifting up or down stairs or such is a pretty big challenge!

[@Ryan-ff2db]

Good price and I'll be keeping an eye on this come black Friday, but like anything I'll be waiting for reviews from trusted sources as well various customer feedback from the usual places.

[@Jasonoid]

We have some big changes coming from solar and battery tariffs just put in place by the Biden administration on Aug 1st. We will have to see what happens to the pricing. Apparently the tariffs are increased by 50% so I'm not sure what will happen to pricing on these units / solar.

[@Ryan-ff2db]

@@Jasonoid Yeah, I guess August 23rd more tariffs come into affect. A shame cause battery prices are expected to continue to fall and even American companies use Chinese imports. There is no real alternative.

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

if I where to do a complete DIY Solar setup right now I would Pair EG4 12k up to it. It's like a slimmed down version of their 18k. I like how Silent their 18k model is

[@lexuslawn]

I've just ordered 2 of them.... should get it in about 3-4 days... and i will be connecting it to my EG4 12kpv... I cant wait. !!!

[@robertchristianson1187]

I am thinking about getting the eg4 inverter and would love to know how these batteries work with it. Did you get the hybrid inverter?

[@d.pollard5962]

@@robertchristianson1187 I hooked up the lithi 2 to the 6000 xp and it was plug and play. easy peasy. My next feat will be 2 lithi 2 and one eg4 power pro ess inside battery hooked to the Ruixu inverter in 50 days, I will let you know how that goes as well.

[@Towelie4200]

How is your setup going on? I wanna do your exact setup

[@d.pollard5962]

Who is that question for?​@@Towelie4200

[@Zakary79081]

@@robertchristianson1187 I know this is a bit late, but the EG4 indoor wall mount batteries are the same price and appear to be what this battery copied. I would expect the EG4 batteries to have a better warranty too.

[@linnmagic]

Hope you’ll show how to connect it to the ecoflow ultra on your follow up video. Thanks

[@Jasonoid]

Super simple process actually! I connect the 48v battery to the low solar charging port of my DPU with an inline fuse on the positive wire. The battery behaves just like solar, wired positive to positive, negative to negative.

[@mboseensco]

@@Jasonoid Would you please provide a link to the inline fuse you recommend. I am a noobie and have no clue.

[@Jasonoid]

Something like this 10awg adapter: amzn.to/3WXuk1R and then add this 30amp inline fuse: amzn.to/3AijaMB

[@mboseensco]

@@Jasonoid Thank you, Sir!!!

[@PhongNguyen-ov7jq]

@@Jasonoid I have the Anker HPP setup with 2 pairs of F3800/BP3800. I've seen some people using 2 EG4 batteries to drive all 4 solar ports of the 2 F3800s to get up to 4800W total, but they need 2 EG4 batteries because of the common ground problem. I don't suppose this Ruixu can emulate 2 independent ones to workaround the common ground issue, huh? Also, I presume that I can use an EG4 Chargeverter to charge it up with no problem, right?

[@robertchristianson1187]

I am in the process of searching all in one systems and will be interested in your choice of inverters

[@outbackeddie]

Great battery but i'm glad I decided to reduce my power needs rather than build up a battery bank to meet my power needs. I have a wood stove for heat, LED lights, water catchment, propane for cooking, triple pane windows, and lots of other power saving enhancements. I have 2.4KW of LiFePO4 battery and 800 watts of solar and that's more than enough to run my small home.

[@Jasonoid]

I respect that! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@chimpo131]

some people live in Arizona😂😂😂

[@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity]

A typical modern 2000 sq ft all-electric home in the USA consumes 50 kWh daily. 180kWh works great.

[@energiewender143]

You lost me at propane …😂

[@outbackeddie]

@@energiewender143 Oh, are you another propane hater?

[@jcstkd2345]

Can you show in the newer video how to connect these to popular Solar Generators, like the EcoFlow and the Bluetti AC300/500? Can you also point to what gauge wires and fuses?

[@Jasonoid]

I have a basic video showing what happens when connecting batteries (included a 48v battery) to power stations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnyXe36jm9OXnpo You'll want to use 10 awg wire and a 30 amp fuse. I can cover that in a future video for the DPU as well.

[@mosler302]

I don't understand why anyone would use an AC300 inverter with a 16kwh battery that's rated @ 200A. The AC300 can only handle a 3000W draw.

[@Jasonoid]

@@mosler302 they use it as an extra 'expansion battery'. Instead of buying more Bluetti batteries at a premium price, you can get a lot more capacity using a large storage battery.

[@Senthiuz]

It's like attaching semi truck gas tanks to your motorcycle. Just think of the range!

[@N_g_er]

I need a coupon

[@laurenceprantner8618]

Thanks for the video; I do have one gripe. I have two Sungold Bluepower wall batteries and two Aolithium rack mount batteries; both sets of batteries use the now prolific push on connectors, but the Sungold and Aolithium use DIFFERENT SIZE push on connectors which are ONLY available from Sungold or Aolithium at considerable expense and wait times. They are NOT compatible and need to go to buss bars for connection to my inverter. Would love to get one of these Ruixu batteries, but don't need the headache of another incompatible battery push on connector problem. The only thing I see as standard with all these new batteries is there is NO standard connector. Dang it.

[@Jasonoid]

Yeah, I wish they all used a standard push connector too! It's quite annoying. I say connect them all together using some heavy duty bus bars and you'll be golden. I've connected my 5kwh and the Ruixu together using their busbars. They are rated at 600 amps. They have been working well in parallel.

[@meganwinters5163]

Hello 👋, Just wanted to pass on some info for your plug struggles. The most commonly used connectors are "DEGSON" style (or knock offs of the real thing) connectors. They can be found online in most all AWG & Millimeter standards. If you want Current Connected typically have & or can get them directly from the manufacturer 👍 You'll need a good crimper though hydraulic preferably.! Hope this helps 🙏 all my best to you both. P.S. please, please, please be cautious here though. Different battery types, charge parameters, and C rates (change/discharge rates) need to be carefully calculated here! Direct connect wires even seen here on the video with non-fused or true DC rated breakers will cause wires to rapidly decay and cause fire hazard...

[@shelley131]

I just finished my first diy using the EG4 inverter and their LL battery you showed on a hand truck to power a window unit during my outages. I won't use solar panels as I do not have enough of them to create the 120V to start charging, but I have the inverter generators I can use for charging during outages. I was wondering that RUiXU seems pretty much plug and play as well. What inverter are you planning to use with it. Now that I built mine you come up with this battery and it has wheels. Seems like a great battery and can't wait for you to make the comparison with the Ultra from EcoFlow. As alway great video.

[@garryb.4560]

Looks nice for price.... only test I'm curious about is the A/C cold start test. Thanks for your videos

[@Jasonoid]

The surge ratings for the battery are decent, but I think that's more of a test for the inverter. Still need to find a decent 240v option

[@TsiRoadkill]

@@Jasonoid Get some sort of solark system

[@SmithOffGrid]

Very cool unit! I’d be curious to see if communication would work between the EG4 18kPV (what I have) or 12kPV. I’d love to switch out my EG4 LifePower4 server rack batteries for something with heaters and fire suppression built in. Didn’t think I’d need heating but had a few times cold temp protection shut the batteries down last winter in our garage. If inverter/bms communication worked that could be a good pair!

[@ruixubattery]

Yes, our battery unit can work with EG4 18Kpv inverter.

[@Jasonoid]

It lists many different brands in the user manual for inverter communication! It should work with most popular brands.

[@d.pollard5962]

it worked seamlessly with the 6000 xp, so 12 and 18 kpv would be easy peasy as well. It was literaaly plug, select inverter type on screen and the 6000 xp showed the battery stats seconds later.

[@turtle1723]

​@@ruixubatteryWhat protocol is it set at?

[@ryankshaw]

I'll be curious to see what inverter you pick to do your next test with. Specifically, I'll be curious to see if you can find one that beats the EG4 6000XP on a price to performance comparison

[@Jasonoid]

The EG4 6000xp is definitely on my radar!

[@gojeffgordon24]

Let me know if you come across a system that can use your AC Coupled solar panels in a grid down situation. I'm only aware of a few that can do this currently (Solark, EG4 18k and Schneider Conext XW PRO). The price on this battery is nice for what it is.

[@Senthiuz]

Those are your best options. In most other setups, microinverters anti-islanding will disable the array, or it won't charge batteries off the gen port, or there isn't a gen/non-grid AC input. Unfortunately, it's still probably cheaper to buy an unnecessary AIO and DC battery than it is to buy an AC coupled battery.

[@user--PM]

vertical server rack battery, with extra capacity, on wheels, very nice.

[@Jasonoid]

Vertical is a great option for my small storage room 😂 I really like the form factor and it's got loads of capacity!

[@tquinn63]

The new larger DIY battery kit options and cheaper batteries like this are VERY appealing. THE QUESTION - will they guarantee closed loop communications with the major inverter manufacturers (Sol-Ark, EG4, Victron, etc)?

[@Jasonoid]

In the settings of the battery it mentions it has all those languages for inverters.

[@MatthewYBarbo]

Enjoyed the breakdown of this video.

[@bkanegson]

Can you speak to customer service and communication that this company may or may not provide? So far, reports I've seen cumulatively indicate attractive products but little or no support, which can be a risky proposition for this level of expense. Any input on this aspect to possibly add?

[@yayinternets]

I think EG4 is rebranded from this same manufacturer

[@Jasonoid]

That would be cool!

[@d.pollard5962]

please let me buy one before you talk about it again. I need it not to go up in price, thanks. Can you place the ruixu and power pro ESS on the same circuit? I will have both batteries very soon and want to make sure they interact.

[@Jasonoid]

I'm not sure if they can interact, the can bot with with a bunch of different inverter languages, but I'm not sure if they communicate with each other. I bet putting them in parallel without coms would be okay since they have similar voltages.

[@d.pollard5962]

@@Jasonoid I hope so, I will have 60 kwh for 11500 when I am done 👍

[@d.pollard5962]

I saw you have the 5 kw EG4 on the table can you put that one as master then add the Ruixu them ruixu as the master and add the EG4. That would show they can parallel and communicate. First I will have them on a 6000xp then eventually a 12kpv or 18kpv once I put an emporia on my house and see what I use daily, and monthly.

[@d.pollard5962]

@@Jasonoid sent a post as an answer/request sorry couldn't undo it.

[@Jasonoid]

@@d.pollard5962 ill look into that as a option 👍

[@Sonoma_Coast]

That's a good price, and good proportions like you noted

[@Herry-y7e]

9500 cycle. Its about 26 years. Not 15 .

[@JerHAMM]

lol Math

[@Cris_Han]

But don't forget that the lifespan will decrease over time, by close to 1% per year(Calendar life)

[@LukeM-q6y]

What are you using to charge your Ruxiu?

[@Jasonoid]

A pair of two Epever 48v charge controllers.

[@josepheustaquio7375]

Love the info... appreciate all the knowledge here. Earned a sub!!!! Thank You.

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

I stopped watching Solar videos in General for a while after getting the DPU but this Intrigues me, I'm very interested in details about using that to supplement power to the DPU because their batteries are very expensive currently I'm using a Maxed out AC300 setup to supplement power to my DPU. I will try to run loads on it late at night when the sun goes down on that instead or if I'm really, really low on power I'll connect the DPU's AC cord to it.

[@Jasonoid]

The connection is super easy. Connect the positive and negative output wires into the low PV port on the DPU.

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

@@Jasonoid Could you include supplementing other Power stations with this battery in your Future video of this? I'm super curious about it

[@Jasonoid]

Did you ever see this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnyXe36jm9OXnpo

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

@@Jasonoid I'll watch it now

[@buixote]

I'm a little skeptical of those itty-bitty wheels.

[@Jasonoid]

The wheels seem to work well on hard surfaces. Way better than no wheels IMO.

[@LukeM-q6y]

Any info on the EG4 flex boss 21 vs 18kpv?

[@Jasonoid]

I think they are releasing more info tomorrow about it 👍

[@tecnologicoaldia]

And how you connect the eg4 and roixu to the same inverter

[@Jasonoid]

Using a bus bar to combine the power, then connect to your inverter.

[@tecnologicoaldia]

You have a photo of the busbar?

[@Jasonoid]

kzbin.infocCl5WRCUPc8?feature=share

[@tecnologicoaldia]

Thanks a lot for your video another video that you recommend

[@tecnologicoaldia]

Another question each bms regulate the charge of each battery?

[@davidbruce5377]

Can you charge it from a gas generator?

[@Jasonoid]

If you use the EG4 chargeverter 👍

[@nanjetyje9447]

Can you check if it has active balancer if not how strong is the passive balancer i?

[@Jasonoid]

In the settings it mentions two balancing options. I'm guessing it uses active balancing to keep everything equal but I will look more into it.

[@Bamabrute85]

Please do a feature video!

[@twloughlin]

I put one of these in the cart to check shipping rates. Flat rate shipping from CA to western NY was $420. That will raise the price per watt hour a bit to $0.23 (includes Jason's $50 code). A very nice-looking unit.

[@MaRo-u1y]

With the code and no tax the shipping was about 200. That’s not bad for a well packaged freight shipment.

[@Jasonoid]

I couldn't believe the package quality, it took a LONG time to get it open. It was the most secure package I have ever opened!

[@Senthiuz]

On their site they are doing free shipping over $5,000. Which would either be order 2 of them or wait for the inverter and order the pair. There was also a pop-up in their website for $100 discount; IDK if that would stack with Jason's code.

[@carrybigspeaksoft1758]

What would I need to connect it to a Anker dc ports ?

[@Jasonoid]

You'll need the busbars seen in the video, and then the adapters shown in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnfPg56Dop2lesU

[@carrybigspeaksoft1758]

@@Jasonoid thank you

[@Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration]

get the eg4 18kpv

[@Jasonoid]

I will consider that!

[@williamlo3249]

Which inverter can I pair this with a NEMA 14-50 outlet?

[@Jasonoid]

That's a 240v split phase outlet so you'll want to have a 240v inverter.

[@brucey5585]

Damn nice price. I want one but how to get it down to my basement without breaking my back

[@Jasonoid]

Getting it down there is WAY easier than getting it out since you have gravity to help. I guess it's like one of those old projector TVs, you just sell it with the house when you move LOL.... or hire a professional company to get it out.

[@Flowing23]

$0.21 wh very good!

[@humanplaystation]

Do the 12000 xp eg4 with this battery👍

[@Jasonoid]

That's a massive inverter! I did buy the 6000xp recently

[@OnusBones]

Interesting. This would be great for a tiny house, which means something like it may be in my distant future (8-10 years). For now, I was able to reset the 2KW FFPower unit I bought recently, so it is again working. It is NOT the same unit you gave an "F" rating! It is 120V, not 110V. I also added a Delta Pro (not the 3), and will be testing that on a Midea window AC unit this weekend.

[@Jasonoid]

The 120v model is a big improvement. I'm really interested in those midea inverter AC units. Only bummer is that all my windows in my house open horizontally, so it's a complicated install vs a vertical opening window.

[@OnusBones]

@@Jasonoid Our Midea unit is the smaller one, and it ran all day one day last weekend on the FFPower unit. It's only an assist to our central AC (which can't keep up on hot days), so it did not run the compressor constantly, but even so the FFPower was still at 64% at the end of the day; I was impressed (with both units).

[@Bamabrute85]

@@OnusBones What BTU is the Midea? I have been considering one of those myself. Those are great results!

[@OnusBones]

@@Bamabrute85 It is the 8000 BTU unit. We got it at Home Depot; their price was actually slightly better than Amazon's.

[@Bamabrute85]

@OnusBones What did you have the thermostat set at? My non inverter 8000 Midea uses about 2,000 wh in 6 hours. And that's at night when it's about 70-75 degrees outside. Also, is it the U shaped unit or conventional looking model?

[@samba2498]

Reliability issue of the manufacturer as emails to their technical support are bouncing back

[@ruixubattery]

May I know which email address you sent ?

[@JimMcPartland]

Like the looks of that!!

[@Jasonoid]

I love the form factor, tall and narrow.

[@drewadlof]

Lol bought this before the EG4 Flexboss/Gridboss. Smh

[@Jasonoid]

It's an awesome battery

[@dfwvtxman]

A little tall to install in the garage of a campervan.

[@Jasonoid]

that would be a beast of a battery in a camper van!

[@dfwvtxman]

@@Jasonoid For sure but A/C and induction cooktops pull a ton of power.

[@eddyburnett9854]

It was an interesting option as a home battery for me until I saw that the extinguishing module contains perfluorohexane. This harmful substance will be banned in Europe by 2025. Very unfortunate ☹

[@Jasonoid]

Being that it has LFP batteries, I'd hope that the fire module will never be needed.

[@SherwinWong-us8fx]

Use a hot aerosol fire extinguishing device, not perfluorohexane

[@cherylwin9364]

HAVE YOU SEEN THE ANKER SOLIX F 3800 PORTABLE POWER STATION THAT COMES WITH A SOLAR PANNEL FOR 3,099 DOLLARS ?😇

[@Jasonoid]

I recommend finding residential 400w solar panels brand new for $150 or so. Here's a video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn21fJ-gn8akg6M

[@goodcitizen4587]

I love these form factors, like the EG4 version of this. But this has wheels. Nice!

[@Jasonoid]

The wheels are AWESOME!

[@troyyarbrough]

Have you ever tried calling RUiXU customer support? If you do I hope you can speak Chinese or Mandarin.

[@Jasonoid]

I haven't tried calling them. The best way to communicate is via email or their Facebook group. They have been really responsive to my emails.

[@ehudgavron9086]

"I do plan to do a future video". That's great. I do plan to give you a thumb's up in the future. "Here's something I really like" -- without a WHY you like like it, waste of a moment. "Simple plug connector" - What, too hard to say which standard the connector adheres to? So based on your review I can't tell what it would plut ingo. Fail. Dude, good try. Fail. But good try. Get a day job.

[@Jasonoid]

Do you ever not PMS? Wow, I'm sure people love living with you LOL...

[@danielteegarden8982]

SO STUPID HAVING ALL THOSE BATTERIES BANKS UNDER YOUR HOUSE ! WIFE AND KIDS ! AND NEIGHBORS ! WHAT ABOUT YOUR HOUSE INSURANCE ? " CRAZY " ! " PLEASE DON'T DO THIS AT YOUR RESIDENT PEOPLE ! " .....

[@Jasonoid]

UL listed LFP batteries don't have a fire risk. You think these are lithium ion?

[@mosler302]

​@@Jasonoid... I'm very glad this issue came up! I've been wondering how much risk it is to have these batteries inside a house. So LFP batteries aren't a fire risk? If they were, all these solar generator companies would be selling time bombs. I need to check this out. Thx!

[@Jasonoid]

@@mosler302 no fire risk with LFP 👍 (at least nothing like lithium ion batteries). In order to be UL listed as a 'lithium' battery it needs to have a fire suppression system built in.

[@laurenceprantner8618]

These are Lithium IRON Phosphate NOT Lithium ION batteries. A little research will settle your nerves. Cheers!