Eggperial City Conclusion - Sonic Speed Reading

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10 ай бұрын

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@channelnamehere8924
@channelnamehere8924 10 ай бұрын
For Tangles' inconsistent intangibility, I just wanna note how if she truly was intangible, she couldn't walk on the ground, go up buildings, or even stand on the ground itself
@YourUncleBenis
@YourUncleBenis 10 ай бұрын
I presumed it worked by the logic of the Phase Shifter from Transformers Prime, where you can walk through walls and stuff as long as it's on, but you still have solidness on the ground. Though the contradictions Nick pointed out now puts that into doubt...
@uboa8060
@uboa8060 10 ай бұрын
Even more so, if you want *true* intangibility where no object or force whatsoever can affect the person who's intangible. This would make her blind and also make it so the earth (or whatever it's called in IDW) spins without her.
@PK-Radio
@PK-Radio 10 ай бұрын
If she was truly intangible would she even be affected by gravity
@yourlocalreptillian1742
@yourlocalreptillian1742 10 ай бұрын
It would be more consistant if they couldn't walk through stuff
@channelnamehere8924
@channelnamehere8924 10 ай бұрын
@@PK-Radio yeah, like that one guy from Batman Beyond
@professionalnobody4416
@professionalnobody4416 10 ай бұрын
The greatest loss of this arc: The Egg Glock It shall be missed 💔
@angrybrony
@angrybrony 10 ай бұрын
they need a 21 glock salute.
@shadamyandsonamylover
@shadamyandsonamylover 10 ай бұрын
Eggman holding a gun to Tangles head is my absolute favorite. I can’t believe they were allowed to do that. I love it!
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 10 ай бұрын
Egglock
@alexandrpeterberg390
@alexandrpeterberg390 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Eggman did have a Glock in Sonic Adventure 2. (when he held Amy at gunpoint) I suppose you could call this the first canon appearance of The Egg Glock.
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 10 ай бұрын
@@alexandrpeterberg390 Back then it was the Egg Colt 45 but then Eggman wanted something more modern and lightweight so he got an Egg Glock 17 instead.
@SpiritOfSpite
@SpiritOfSpite 10 ай бұрын
Yes, Eggman with a regular sized gun is the fandoms favourite meme
@Enixon869
@Enixon869 10 ай бұрын
"Behold my greatest invention yet, the Egg-Glock!"
@jackhumphries1087
@jackhumphries1087 10 ай бұрын
Dr. Roglocknik
@dededeletethis9940
@dededeletethis9940 10 ай бұрын
The g in Eggman stands for gun
@gustavomartins364
@gustavomartins364 10 ай бұрын
​@@dededeletethis9940Sadly is not a piss gun.
@Zero-ontheleft
@Zero-ontheleft 10 ай бұрын
​@@dededeletethis9940What the other G stands for?
@SnaksiXD
@SnaksiXD 10 ай бұрын
Omega's "Yes!" Is a perfect demonstration of the kind of humor he brought with himself to Heroes. A perfect representation.
@netherwalker1762
@netherwalker1762 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Archie days as well. Glad to see my murderous artificial friend again!
@vinvillian4621
@vinvillian4621 10 ай бұрын
I think the tangibility of Tangle is explained by her being able to slightly press against things but with enough pressure can phase through objects. If she was completely and totally intangible then she’d just fall through the earth
@DJMcNerdette
@DJMcNerdette 10 ай бұрын
Omg thanks so much for this explanation, now I can reread it without that question bugging me!
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap 10 ай бұрын
But if it was about pressure she would fall through the earth some good lengh after colliding with it at terminal velocity? What was the force that pushed her back up at all? Just video game logic like an invisible wall or force that corrects your course when you go out of bounds? That's what it felt like. It's never properly explained, though. Eggman being the big mouth narrcacist he is could've and would've elaborated, but the writers wrote something they weren't smart enough or too lazy to explain, so fans are just using headcannon and theories to cope with the contrived writing.
@BobisOnlyBob
@BobisOnlyBob 10 ай бұрын
Oh, like the opposite of the shields in dune. Those let slow moving things pass through them (like air, or a slow movement) but repel fast things (like bullets, a fast punch, or even an overly swift pat on the back). So she can't punch metal sonic, but she was able to grab him - but it was also undulating and inconsistent because the traps were just generally wobbly physics.
@eycasual
@eycasual 10 ай бұрын
My thought was she focused hard enough she'd be able to be somewhat tangible
@netherwalker1762
@netherwalker1762 10 ай бұрын
I would also think gravity may not even apply, or at least, not as powerfully.
@Sonic_Speed_Dash
@Sonic_Speed_Dash 10 ай бұрын
Can we appreciate how much of a badass Metal Sonic has been through this comic series
@AngelPerez-tu1nk
@AngelPerez-tu1nk 10 ай бұрын
Amen to that
@Guntshot
@Guntshot 10 ай бұрын
Aside from being buried like thrice in the last 10 issues, he’s been kicking ass. I like seeing him as actual threat.
@Mepphy99
@Mepphy99 10 ай бұрын
he only needs to beat Sonic once and he is the greatest goat he saved him from the virus, now show me him power
@SonicSwift99
@SonicSwift99 10 ай бұрын
Bro keeps jobbing but they make him look so badass in each panel that I can't be too mad. I just need him to actually hurt the heroes in some way to show why he's a whole different threat from Eggman's usual baddies.
@juliemesser2053
@juliemesser2053 10 ай бұрын
You mean hilarious.😅
@alexdenty7041
@alexdenty7041 10 ай бұрын
This entire finale was a big apology to Shadow fans, and I love it
@Mepphy99
@Mepphy99 9 ай бұрын
sega Is trying to apology so hard they are going to make a Shadow-protagonist game
@sentientmustache8360
@sentientmustache8360 3 ай бұрын
@@Mepphy99CORRECT.
@krisprowler3199
@krisprowler3199 10 ай бұрын
In fairness, the last time Eggman built a supposedly inescapable trap, Sonic and some random kid escaped it in roughly 20 seconds.
@humanperson620
@humanperson620 10 ай бұрын
Random kid?
@dirteater2446
@dirteater2446 10 ай бұрын
@@humanperson620 I believe he's talking about chris from sonic X
@indecisiveponderer643
@indecisiveponderer643 10 ай бұрын
​@@dirteater2446nah he's talking about nullspace from forces
@AtomicoMacaco
@AtomicoMacaco 10 ай бұрын
@@humanperson620 The avatar in Forces.
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS 10 ай бұрын
Eggman: Who are you people? Lanolin: We are the Diamond Cutters ! Eggman: ...I am gonna kill that f*****g octopus!
@mobgabriel1767
@mobgabriel1767 9 ай бұрын
mimic:aw shit here we go again
@nishiruma
@nishiruma 10 ай бұрын
I love that its canon in this series that eggman just has a piece on him at all times 😂
@IconPNG
@IconPNG 10 ай бұрын
And since the IDW comics are canon to the games, that means Eggy is always packing a glock with him since Forces lmao
@shonenbois
@shonenbois 10 ай бұрын
Not a big fan of 06 but I really enjoyed how this arc gave us a fun interaction between shadow and silver like what 06 did
@lilboygthorns7373
@lilboygthorns7373 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, my reaction to it was “OMG, Shadow’s finally going to respect Silver” to then realise that was only an SS182 thing, where Shadow’s a Tsundere
@smugsneasel
@smugsneasel 10 ай бұрын
11:25 The Egg Glock is one of the best things in this comic...It was too powerful which is why it had to be destroyed.
@fodv93
@fodv93 9 ай бұрын
The one thing that Eggman has that sonic can't destroy: The second amendment
@liviwaslost
@liviwaslost 9 ай бұрын
@@fodv93shadow and Eggman both
@TheEverythingEnthuiast
@TheEverythingEnthuiast 10 ай бұрын
this story is just "how over the top can we make this comic?" and i love it
@codysonic1
@codysonic1 10 ай бұрын
The answer is yes
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 10 ай бұрын
Shadow Chaos Control-ling an entire city is definitely up there
@delphoxhoopa7289
@delphoxhoopa7289 10 ай бұрын
Shadow's characterization has definitely improved! I hope the writers keep it consistent for his next appearance! 🥰
@wellywell1064
@wellywell1064 10 ай бұрын
The tangible issue is likely based on how Tangle is able to "stand" on the ground and "sit" on a railing, by those same rules she should be able to "hold" onto Metal. The reason why she coils her tail around its likely because of the fact that she is intangible not invisible and was just blocking his line of sight since you see him slashing through her tail.
@firerulezz116
@firerulezz116 10 ай бұрын
That's absolutely how I interpreted it.
@JaceAce22
@JaceAce22 10 ай бұрын
She's probably at a point in her state where she just needs to push through matter instead of being entirely intangible. Intangibility powers or states of phasing through matter, like Mirio from MHA or Kitty Pride from X-Men always confused me of how much control is needed for you to phase through walls, but not fall through the ground forever.
@legendarycryptid2629
@legendarycryptid2629 10 ай бұрын
14:25 RIP Egg Glock. Too cool for IDW Sonic.
@malyckrentz9346
@malyckrentz9346 10 ай бұрын
Sonic team: *Jokes around* Eggman: *PULLS OUT THE GLOCK*
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 10 ай бұрын
Shadow shouldn't have pissed in his wife
@DragonMCMultiverse
@DragonMCMultiverse 10 ай бұрын
@@PlebNC IN???
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 10 ай бұрын
@@DragonMCMultiverse It had to go somewhere once it was on her. That or she was thirsty in more than 1 way.
@malyckrentz9346
@malyckrentz9346 10 ай бұрын
@@PlebNC That's why Eggman pulled out his Glock and pissed on the moon
@lololordjr
@lololordjr 10 ай бұрын
Truly an end to the age of empires
@player-zw8qp
@player-zw8qp 10 ай бұрын
indeed
@askerleaves1614
@askerleaves1614 10 ай бұрын
*eggpires
@charmyzard
@charmyzard 10 ай бұрын
Neoliberalist era time? Eggman conquers the world with all that Oil Ocean money.
@lightdragoon88
@lightdragoon88 10 ай бұрын
My headcannon for Tangles' intangibility is focus. If she can really focus she can interact with solid object, but if it falters she phases through. Going back to the last issue for example she was backing up and didn't notice the wall so because she wasn't focus on interacting with the wall, she phase through. This is why normal walking/running still works because that is a subconscious thought and therefor still works.
@ThatIdiotOmega
@ThatIdiotOmega 10 ай бұрын
Kinda like Cole from Ninjago back when he was a ghost.
@smoogieboogie1694
@smoogieboogie1694 10 ай бұрын
Seeing Tangle, Whisper, and Lanolin like a Sonic Heroes team just reminds me of how we never see Team Rose anymore! Come on, IDW! Where are they?
@maciejas2471
@maciejas2471 10 ай бұрын
Amy hangs with Sonic right now, Cream is with her mother, and Big is somewhere around
@blehhmp4
@blehhmp4 10 ай бұрын
Think of it. Tangle- strength (tail) Whisper- flight (rocket and hover) Lanolin- speed (idk)
@Ed_Games234
@Ed_Games234 10 ай бұрын
Amy basically entered Silver's team since 2006, so... The team is still there.
@smoogieboogie1694
@smoogieboogie1694 10 ай бұрын
@@Ed_Games234 She was in the "team" in that game only and wasn't even with him for long. She spent one stage with him and didn't even interact with Blaze.
@-KORAL_ZERO
@-KORAL_ZERO 9 ай бұрын
@@blehhmp4 switch tangle with lanolin
@ObscureSwan
@ObscureSwan 10 ай бұрын
Amy brought out a strawberry shortcake, and as said by Sonic in the Twitter Takeover "Strawberry shortcake sucks!" Probably why he didn't stick around for long.
@JediSteve-J3-
@JediSteve-J3- 9 күн бұрын
Oh my goodness you are right
@emred4653
@emred4653 10 ай бұрын
this did shadow justice. Showed how powerful he is
@Sisyphus...
@Sisyphus... 10 ай бұрын
With the whole intangible thing, i think its a "tangible at will" type deal, so they can choose whether to phase or not.
@LateefA519
@LateefA519 10 ай бұрын
Nah I think its tangible at random
@cherricake1796
@cherricake1796 10 ай бұрын
​@@IYASAYKICYHtangible when plot Jesus says so
@winterdragon2004
@winterdragon2004 10 ай бұрын
I figure its linked to emotions, the more panicked she gets, the more intangible she becomes
@djinnspalace2119
@djinnspalace2119 10 ай бұрын
she only ever blocked metals sight, she never attacked him and never actually grabbed sonics hand, she really didnt interact with anyone besides taking away metals sight since she was still visible.
@Felix.Fictus
@Felix.Fictus 10 ай бұрын
what a GOOD comeback for shadow returning to form. guy got to be his old edgy self AND threw a CITY INTO SPACE. good stuff, doin my childhood proud.
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 10 ай бұрын
I feel like it gets overlooked somewhat, but Silver and Blaze, despite interacting together on some occasions, are a pretty great duo. Seeing them work together in the comics, those who know they’re history from the canon of the games to the IDW comics, know that despite one being from a different time and another a different space/dimension, they compliment each other well as a duo.
@AngelPerez-tu1nk
@AngelPerez-tu1nk 10 ай бұрын
Ngl, IDW Sonic has been a rollercoaster of hype from almost beggining to now and its friggin awesome. This latest arc is the ultimate extreme to that xD. However, I kinda wish they took a long breather and let things settle down before doing something again.
@TheKorenji
@TheKorenji 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed that Silver and Sonic didn't Chaos Control alongside Shadow, since they canonically COULD do that... but at the same time, if Shadow alone was enough to manage a Capital-Sized City... I wonder how powerful they'd be if they all worked together... Maybe they could warp a country off the planet-
@itzkhalizisreal
@itzkhalizisreal 10 ай бұрын
Ohio, Your welcome.
@sonicdml4175
@sonicdml4175 10 ай бұрын
And then there's Super forms who could probably just teleport the planet on their own.
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, Silver pulled the Metal Virus out of everyone while Sonic was making them go extremely fast.
@sonicdml4175
@sonicdml4175 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelcarlton1484 That was Super Silver.
@Cosmik60
@Cosmik60 2 ай бұрын
this is why Wyoming doesn't exist
@KraziShadowbear
@KraziShadowbear 10 ай бұрын
This arc and ending was pretty interesting. Shadow was epic and the plot of the "self-sustaining city" was pretty awesome, but the consistency of the portals' ability to change how one interacts with the real world, "scattering of atoms", "dimensional distorting", and other similar stuff here was kinda strange and left me with more questions than answers. I thought Eggman straight up actually killed them through the scattering of their atoms or that the effect of that was much more "permanent" than just an "on and off" type of thing. Also, I love your reaction (15:20) to the little Turtleloid getting kicked off by Metal Sonic. When I saw that, I was literally thinking "What will Nick think of this? Was this intentionally placed just to see his reaction?" XD
@Shywhitefox
@Shywhitefox 10 ай бұрын
While it is a little inconsistent with her sitting and touching people, and wish it was explored more, but I like to think that Tangle has somewhat some control over the newfound intangibility as long as she is calm. Once things start getting extremely stressful, then she looses her grasp over her molocules and starts going through stuff with little to no control.
@Baconboi1972
@Baconboi1972 10 ай бұрын
Bro, you KNOW it's a good day, when Game Apologist uploads a new Sonic Speed Reading episode. Love your videos, dude. Keep up the good work.
@mrcwillis6970
@mrcwillis6970 10 ай бұрын
That shadow big choas control moment is so cool ❤🖤
@nuteniumtokyo8248
@nuteniumtokyo8248 10 ай бұрын
Picked up the first 20 issues of this series a few days ago and I have this series to thank for that. Seriously guys pick these up they are really good.
@NegaHumanX
@NegaHumanX 10 ай бұрын
No matter where I am. No matter what I'm doing. No matter who's around. It randomly pops into my head. I'll never forget it. "YOU mAy knOW evErYThinG I'M going TO DO, buT IIIII know everything YOU'RE Going to DO! STRANGE ISN'T IT! " in the voice from the OVA. It's stuck in my head forever. If we ever get a Flash movie where he fights Reverse Flash I hope they homage it.
@Nightmare_52
@Nightmare_52 10 ай бұрын
this comic really did shadows spines super well in these issues, also love the sonic riders looking pose on metal sonic when on the turtle so much hidden fun
@lilbasenji1
@lilbasenji1 10 ай бұрын
There is a lot of Shadow love in this comic and I love it!!!! I have noticed lately that Sega tends to forget all the power and abilities Shadow was given when he was introduced. He has so much power that it’s shocking why Sega decided to give him a gun in his own game instead of focusing on his powers. He is such a mysterious character even though he has been in the Sonic franchise for so long and these issues are evidence of it. He never tried to use chaos control without a chaos emerald, but despite that he is able to pull it off without the emerald. I remember not to long watching Chaomix speculate if Shadow needed a chaos emerald to use chaos control and I am glad that these issues answered that. Now that nothing is stopping him from using chaos spear, chaos blast, chaos control, and all those other abilities. I also love Silver’s little pep talk to Shadow. It’s not something we usually see in Sonic’s main cast, but I love it all the same. It gave me Pokémon vibes, but I love it. Silver was repaying the favor (that never happened due to time manipulation) in 06. I would love to see more of those two teamed up in the future. I also love how much time Blaze and Silver got. While I missed seeing my favorite wolf, I am glad to see these two work together.
@shadamyandsonamylover
@shadamyandsonamylover 10 ай бұрын
In the archie comics he used his natural powers a ton. I hope they bring that back =)
@Lazypackmule
@Lazypackmule 10 ай бұрын
Shadow didn't really have any notable natural powers of his own outside of a chaos emerald until Battle for gameplay and 06 for story
@pigifi
@pigifi 8 ай бұрын
2:11 Fun fact from Evan Stanley. Every artist hated having to draw Tails' Miles Electric, so when the chance came for a neat gag using Tangle's intangibility, the artists are more than happy to add this idea to smash that over-detailed thing so they don't have to draw it anytime soon.
@SwerveStarEx
@SwerveStarEx 10 ай бұрын
I just wanna say, I listened to the Shadow's Return video on the way to work today, listened to the Super Amy video during my workout when I got home, and now there is ANOTHER video waiting for me for the next time I take a drive out. That is WILD, thanks so much for all the content, man!
@user-rc3sw7xk1w
@user-rc3sw7xk1w 10 ай бұрын
When I read this, I assumed Tangle was floating with Metal, blinding him with her tail… It’s definitely not shown off very well, but given she’s not transparent, that made enough sense to me.
@umdofevy
@umdofevy 10 ай бұрын
For me, a sign of well-written sonic character dialogue is when I can hear it in the Adventure-era voices, and that Shadow line about the city being a true monument to the doctor's hubris was one of those moments, being able to hear it perfectly in the Shadow the Hedgehog game's voice. I'm glad that, at least in part, comic!Shadow is getting a little bit back on track to the characterization fans have been wanting
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 10 ай бұрын
I’ll definitely have to pick this up once the volume releases in October. Shadow has definitely come a long way from the Metal Virus Saga. Finally showing off his Chaos abilities too.
@sethisevilone02
@sethisevilone02 10 ай бұрын
is it the idw book collection volume 4?
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 10 ай бұрын
@@sethisevilone02 No, Sonic IDW Volume 15: “Urban Warfare” which contains issues 57-61.
@sethisevilone02
@sethisevilone02 10 ай бұрын
@@agentomecha634 damn
@winnerthecoolguy2009
@winnerthecoolguy2009 10 ай бұрын
Eggman with a gun is weirdly funny and intimidating 11:25
@abigailhedderly4978
@abigailhedderly4978 10 ай бұрын
I’m so happy! I think this was a pretty good finale! And I can’t wait for the next IDW collection! And, YES! #JusticeForShadow, I think they really fixed him up!
@shadic1988
@shadic1988 10 ай бұрын
Shadow was the MVP of this arc
@skyray16
@skyray16 10 ай бұрын
Eggman did say that Cutters were hit by the prototypes of the trap. For me it was quite obvious that Tangle was more unstable then just intangeble and the effect wore off with time
@LordFusion5620
@LordFusion5620 10 ай бұрын
I can confirm Egg Man's glock is the best reoccurring character I've seen in a while
@railroadmillion681
@railroadmillion681 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I like the subtle approach of Whispers and Tangle's relationship. It give more focus on their characters and personalities and it feels more like organic relationship.
@LeAndre_McCoy
@LeAndre_McCoy 10 ай бұрын
25:00 Well Sonic and Amy aren't even a couple, even despite Flynn seemingly doing everything in his power, as a writer, to canonize their relationship outside of blatantly stating it to be true. In IDW and in Frontiers. Rather than refusing to acknowledge a gay relationship, it seems as though they don't want to acknowledge any relationship.
@MonyXChan
@MonyXChan 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that's kinda the thing. Sonic and Amy share mutual feelings for each other, they just can't be in a relationship. I'm just a bit confused as to why the rule would go for Tangle and Whisper as they aren't originally game characters, but perhaps it is because IDW is canon to the games? Idk.
@dprototype6431
@dprototype6431 10 ай бұрын
This arc was really fun to read, I especially loved that mega Team Blast in the finale.
@eNCy.
@eNCy. 10 ай бұрын
14:00 Sonic seems to be doing the same pose he does on the cover of Sonic adventure. However its been changed a bit to show Sonic kicking Metal.
@kijukitten
@kijukitten 10 ай бұрын
im pretty sure tails saiud tangle was semi tangible, explaining how she can walk on and climb up through floors
@lpan-xy4pt
@lpan-xy4pt 10 ай бұрын
she is not transparent so she can blind metal.
@caswellweird
@caswellweird 10 ай бұрын
The moving Eggperial City reminded me of the huge gunmen inside of Teppelin in Gurren Lagann
@DBsuperZ
@DBsuperZ 10 ай бұрын
This man hit us with a double wammer 😮‍💨thank you man
@thatfriendwhosesanityyouquesti
@thatfriendwhosesanityyouquesti 9 ай бұрын
I just immediately assumed Tangle’s intangibility to be wearing off as the comic continued, like the invisibility did. At first, she’s completely intangible, then she’s intangible if she forces her way through things (atoms don’t like being displaced, so it makes sense that they force her out if she’s not actively pushing her way through them), then it finally wears off completely when the group splits up. I’ve seen other franchises do something similar, where intangible characters are forced out of walls or floors if they stop being intangible while in another solid object. Atoms can’t be destroyed, just displaced, and they tend to not like sharing their space with other atoms. Hence the shoving.
@CrimsonMoonM
@CrimsonMoonM Ай бұрын
Personally, I always viewed '06 Shadow as the definitive version of the character, considering that he had just laid his past to rest and moved on. That Shadow is somewhat surly, sure, but he is ultimately calm and analytical enough to casually throw Mephiles' attempt to turn him against his allies back in the villain's face and has absolute faith in the rest of Team Dark to the point where he reaffirms his loyalty to Omega once the truth of his potential future is revealed.
@JothThehuman
@JothThehuman 9 ай бұрын
I love how Nick just has a drawing of him smacking sonic on hand ready to be used.
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 9 ай бұрын
I don't think you have any idea how much you've made me a fan of EGGMAN'S GLOCK. The comics themselves turned me into an Omega fan, and of course a fan of the new characters, but EGGMAN'S GLOCK is so fun, too.
@legendarycryptid2629
@legendarycryptid2629 10 ай бұрын
7:51 11:25 Aw, no Still for those parts? That's always the best part of the Egg Glock moments.
@triledink
@triledink 10 ай бұрын
11:31 There is something about eggman pulling his ''blicky out to ice some fools'' that makes him the GOAT in the comic series.
@SaltedMallows
@SaltedMallows 10 ай бұрын
Man, happy to have these back. I hope for more speed reading
@garrettviewegh9028
@garrettviewegh9028 3 ай бұрын
I love how persistent Metal was here. Much like a Terminator, he doesn’t stop, he’s relentless. He doesn’t stop until his given orders/mission is complete. Or, at least, until Sonic is dead.😅
@B-Dawgg
@B-Dawgg 6 ай бұрын
Nick: Adventure fans are precious about Shadow's characterisation. Also Nick: everything reminds me of Sally & Freedom Fighters. Why won't Sega give them love?
@zeoxdragon
@zeoxdragon 10 ай бұрын
Look, I rather not have any canon ships and let fans make up their minds and ideas, Tangle X Whisper is extremely obvious and I feel the majority will ship them but like, I rather not have stories about romances and about "oh what can I buy to my girlfriend" or "oh my I saw her talking to someone else, I will be jealous and angry and think they are cheating on me!"... you know, the kind of stories that were on old Archie and I feel like they don't belong here. Tangle and Whisper are an obvious couple, we know it, but the Sonic comics shouldn't be about romances but rather adventures or something I don't know it may be just me not wanting to happen like what happen on old Archie and being too afraid of that. Besides maybe some people ship Tangle with Jewel, as long as there is no official confirmation they have more freedom with shipping whatever they want.
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 10 ай бұрын
Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, This was a very interesting Arc, i wonder what’s next? Will look forward to see.
@captainpie9793
@captainpie9793 10 ай бұрын
Oh hey perfect timing I just finished your most recent speed reading. 😂
@therealfigu
@therealfigu 10 ай бұрын
I think the thing with Tangle is that she keeps switching between being tangible and intangible and not controlling it too well when in stressful situations (like a fight or a chase) due to her atoms being sort of...disturbed? Like she has no real control over her own body which is quite ironic for her character and her preferred style of fighting. Her body parts going between these 2 states convincing and inconvincing her largely at the same time. It seems both smart and lazily convinient, but I don't mind it that much tbh
@humanperson620
@humanperson620 10 ай бұрын
Did the city even have people in it? What happened to Eggman? What is going to happen to Metal Sonic? Man the comics are crazy.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer 10 ай бұрын
If by people you mean Badniks, then yes.
@zildakar
@zildakar 10 ай бұрын
Massive respect for putting that pun in the thumbnail lmao
@Breezy4thewin
@Breezy4thewin 10 ай бұрын
I guess that tangle is like a ghost where she can pass through things but still interact with them at the same time, idk
@scarletlion1318
@scarletlion1318 10 ай бұрын
This is a good comic to end off the arc. The artwork in this is just so incredible. A Eggman is truly a menace because he literally pulled a gun and threatened to shoot Tangle's brains out. Eggman was that determined to complete his goals even if it means killing someone or holding people hostage. I love the part with Silver and Shadow. About silver encouraging Shadow to break through this rock that is in capsule in him and I know what the did with the 'it's no use'that Shadow said that kind of triggered Silver but thanks to his words and powers combined with Shadow they were able to break Shadow free. And I love the teamwork and dynamics of the characters. They've literally threw Sonic like a ball charging up more speed and power to impact the machine and channel using his chaos powers to teleport the city off to space before the whole thing blows. And Shadow was quick thinking and creative with his powers. And I love the character development between Tangle and Whisper. They really did grow throughout the arc and they are able to be more happy. And also I got to talk about these artwork behind them showing the lesbian flag. I ship Tangle x Whisper or Whispangle. And they have been hinted to be a thing. And with them holding hands and getting close. And about Tangle learn from her mistakes and her caring about her friends and not losing more and saying sorry and Whisper actually fighting through her trauma. And with the art that they'd gone through I think they deserve each other. It's the best ship ever and I can't agree enough. And also this is one of my favorite ships ever. And honestly that was one of my favorite things in this and I am so happy and amazed! Go Whispangle🥰😍❤❤🎉!!!!!!!
@henrymalloy1344
@henrymalloy1344 Ай бұрын
someone: sonic characters aren't that overpowered. Shadow the hedgehog: * launches an entire city into space *
@flargensnarf6500
@flargensnarf6500 10 ай бұрын
Personally I’d love to see these comic characters show up in an rpg sonic spin off series. Personally I really liked Sonic chronicles and thought it had a lot of potential. Using a spin off for these characters would be a great way to subtly introduce these characters into the mainline and build upon the potential of Sonic chronicles without getting into any trouble with he who shall not be named
@looking4agoodtime89
@looking4agoodtime89 10 ай бұрын
A 3rd person shooter with Whisper: We start at the beginning of her career with the diamond cutters and witness all the capabilities of their whisps in the tutorial. Then the bulk of the game is her going around during the Eggman war helping the resistance, gaining knowledge about her whisps and weapon so that she can upgrade its capabilities along with her whisps (think a tech tree that unlocks more nodes as she defeats enemies). A cool rpg shooter that I don’t feel like expanding on at the moment cause I’m more than a few shots deep into this here bottle of Cap’n Morgan Rum. I’m off to hydrate now, wish me luck.
@TheMAZZTer
@TheMAZZTer 7 ай бұрын
In sci-fi whenever someone has the power to phase through matter it's NEVER applied consistently since that means they would immediately fall through the floor if the power was active, making it pretty useless.
@Kunori
@Kunori 10 ай бұрын
The last couple of issues of this seemed off to me. Like, as you mentioned, the new portals were talked up to be threatening and then did nothing, so the best interpretation was that eggman just... was wrong about them? His own tech that he'd previously tested with prototypes and bothered to make multiple of? It comes across like they just wrote themselves into a corner they couldn't escape with the time available and had to just fudge out of it. Similar the weirdness with tangibility or not, it seemed to just work by plot convenience, there are plausible plantations but those explanations aren't given or even hinted towards enough. A couple other things stood out to me too, my biggest was when Rouge got swiped at by a shadow android hand but then... nothing, the next panel it was as if it just hadn't happened, I re-read that a few times thinking I must have missed something. For as much buildup as the city and eggman's dimensional experiments had, there was a lot of spectacle but a lot less substance and structure than I'd come to expect from these writers.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap 10 ай бұрын
As Ian says this book is aimed at "12 year olds", so don't think about it too much. They are just getting a paycheck rather than writing stories that have timeless appeal.
@arran4285
@arran4285 10 ай бұрын
@@Snaaaaap Aka easy pay without hard work or care
@MasterSwo-MK
@MasterSwo-MK 10 ай бұрын
I swear guys, this whole arc was just a total mood!
@_thejuicebox
@_thejuicebox 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned Advent Children cause it was the first thing I thought of.
@MrSkysenGames
@MrSkysenGames 10 ай бұрын
I figured Tangle's intangibility was a focus thing, like Kitty Pryde from X-men. Had to try to be solid and, with all the chaos, kept losing the focus and falling through stuff. And while I'm fine with shippers shipping, especially since this is the Sonic fandom, I think I honestly prefer the sort of buddy cop style dynamic between Whisper and Tangle to something romantic. Entertainment value, maybe. Also, has Rouge been getting a little more...cartoony with expressions lately? A lot of funny faces going around, but I'm used to her mostly just expressing sass.
@SonicForges
@SonicForges 3 ай бұрын
The way he says glock has me dying!😂 Also I think the intangibility power fades in and out. That might be what they were going for.
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 10 ай бұрын
Permeation/Intangibility is something she was turning off and on at will.
@MattAnd
@MattAnd 10 ай бұрын
Two game apologist videos in one evening? We’re eating well tonight! (Though hope you aren’t burning yourself out to pump out two videos at once though!)
@ibc9320
@ibc9320 10 ай бұрын
I love these thank you!
@YourAverageNerd06
@YourAverageNerd06 10 ай бұрын
“For his neutral special, he wields a gun.”
@skylerburnside8337
@skylerburnside8337 10 ай бұрын
I think Tangle, which I found funny she was in-Tangle-ible, is like Kitty Pryde on and off. It more emotional control, when she panic she went through stuff she didn't want to. When she focus like sitting and or saving Sonic or punching Metal.
@DreadtheMadSmith
@DreadtheMadSmith 10 ай бұрын
Aalways a treat getting two of these in one day.
@byonty886
@byonty886 10 ай бұрын
i think that tangle had already become in a normal state when they're going for the rescue, she just didn't realize until he fight with metal sonic at the end(i suppose?)
@MMDAQ
@MMDAQ 10 ай бұрын
Need a legit video essay on Shadow's various portrayals across all comics (if possible) and the negatives and positives of them
@shadowsnake5133
@shadowsnake5133 10 ай бұрын
Bro, eggman did a very stupid plan this go around. The three male hedgehog's all can control huge amounts of chaos energy and know chaos control, they could at any moment fully control his city's energy supply and just destroy it inside out. Especially shadow, who honestly would have used chaos blast to kill eggman and himself if everyone else wasn't there. Only thing left would have been a noticable flash of light and a crater. Eggman, you need to stop sleeping on sonics allies. You keep fuckin up there.
@zXDaishiXz
@zXDaishiXz 9 ай бұрын
Shadow getting some proper love is exactly what I wanted. I'd consider buying multiple copies of the specific issues as an offering to show my support.
@nicodemusedwards6931
@nicodemusedwards6931 10 ай бұрын
Ya know, with the whole fake emerald thing, a small set of neurons in the back of my brain fired and thought: “They wouldn’t… they’d NEVER do Dark Super Sonic.” And they did not. I am entirely neutral about this.
@krackkokichi
@krackkokichi 10 ай бұрын
wait you thought shadows dialogue was cringy 😭 i thought it was badass
@umbreonmaster8921
@umbreonmaster8921 10 ай бұрын
I think the next comic arc will revolve around angel island and the echidna clans, maybe even the Nocturnis clan. With the echidna artifact being shown at the end with a close up, I bet it will be important in at least some way in the future idw comics.
@laraprisma6381
@laraprisma6381 2 ай бұрын
You don't know how much I freaked out when I saw the Tangle and Whisper panel that discreetly confirms them as a sapphic couple! I've always loved these two and their ship, but knowing that their creator also ships them made me very happy! And seeing this small form of representation, even if discreet, makes me happy! And honestly, it's good that it was something as simple as the panel colors being the lesbian flag, I've seen the Transformes community when comics started including LGBT couples, so I know that people are gonna hate it. But the Sonic community has a lot of LGBT fans, and having that representation is enough for us! Whistanle 4 life!
@NotanalienSymbiot
@NotanalienSymbiot 10 ай бұрын
Eggman saw the ops try and get into a city and pulled out the Glock
@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 10 ай бұрын
Tangle was able to be tangible and not cause of the chaos control induced city blackout from the last issue causing the effect on the portals to make the Neo Diamond Cutters semi intangible. Basically glitching out.
@stephenwilson4422
@stephenwilson4422 9 ай бұрын
The best I can explain the inconsistency in Tangle’s intangible status, maybe the limiter on the city keeping it from destroying itself is imperfect and is having to reset from time to time which resets her to a tangible state and she goes intangible again after the reboot reset. Or perhaps keeping on of eggheads outdated space distorting traps that he scattered across his city isn’t as big a priority so she occasionally is tangible when power isn’t being diverted to those traps keeping her from interacting with the world.
@jaredtherock5692
@jaredtherock5692 10 ай бұрын
I tgink the dimensional stuff and scattering atoms across dimensions is a bigger issue of many pieces of Sonic media and the fact that the word "dimension" is just "maguffin" without real explanation or flavor. Frontiers and Forces are especially guilty of this. I do like how Eggman seems to be taking old ideas and making something new, though. The atomizer things seemed based off of the last time in IDW that he messed with dimensional warping, and eggperial city has the same concept he wanted from the Metal Virus. Instead of an army that builds itself, he made a city that constantly rebuilds itself.
@ponderingForever
@ponderingForever 10 ай бұрын
Tangle's fluctuating intangibility seems fine coming in waves as victims to a prototype system "early models" as Eggman mentioned in the previous issue when they're forced back to being visible, but defo can be explained more
@CountryGirlSouth
@CountryGirlSouth 10 ай бұрын
Shadow dish some traits that was missing what the entire time. Feels like frontiers all over with Knuckles. That animation featured something of knuckles and this comic feature core of shadow. To see sliver in again and Blaze too not much but yes. Like I said, not a whsiper x tangle fan But I would kill for a friendship duo WITHOUT SOME WERID take onto it. Do you if you ship it but it feels tomboys cant be tomboys no more without some... "attachment" i dont know how to word it. But i am happy their on good terms personally. Their friendship is wholesome without SHIP behind it. I did also saw Surge so if they can slide some diamond cutters fighting my Surge. We good terms.
@CyanicCore
@CyanicCore 10 ай бұрын
My favorite part of this segment was how seriously Eggman was treated. Throughout the franchise he's usually portrayed as helpless or even irrelevant without minions or a mech, and it looks like the comic is about to do that again until he pulls out his gun. This even goes both ways with members of the cast actually hitting him, though it doesn't go as far as to show him wounded - probably a good call.
@HateSonneillon
@HateSonneillon 10 ай бұрын
Your series actually made me want to buy some Sonic comics but none of my local comic shops carry Sonic >.>
@Hallofmediocity
@Hallofmediocity 10 ай бұрын
I think the dimensional traps were based on the tracking traps in Titanic Monarch in Mania.
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