Sequelitis - ZELDA: A Link to the Past vs. Ocarina of Time

[@DeceasedChannel-r1i]

30:35 "You can hit that subscribe button right there, and that'll let you know when new sequelitises are coming out" 😞

[@anon2234]

Agreed. Maybe one day man.

[@smoldragon339]

"There is... so much... GODDAMN waiting!"

[@bombinramen]

Plot twist, in 2020. I'm calling it now.

[@lucaherman6227]

PrematureMailbox hang in there, one day... one day💀

[@charlesweiss3093]

Ok arin, are you also getting milk?

[@agamingenigma6116]

I wonder how angry and/or insane Arin can get if he did a sequelitis on Sonic the Hedgehog.

[@briancarlson6216]

i would pay good money for that however im afraid it would give him a brain aneurysm

[@paninihedgehog313]

Seeing how the footage from sonic adventure 1 in this video is glitches that actually have to be forced to happen. not accidents. he is gonna have to take awhile.. quiet awhile.

[@jamesducharme1711]

I wonder what his reaction to the sburb beta would be

[@herbalursa3524]

@@briancarlson6216 isn't that what game grumps is for? To see Egoraptor and Danny lose their sanity playing games.

[@briancarlson6216]

@@herbalursa3524 I mean sure but I also sometimes like to appreciate one comedian doing a bit as well I'm not always looking for 2 people

[@furydeath]

I think he doesn't like skyward sword .

[@weluvncsu]

I must not have been paying attention when did he say that?

[@Zeldahol]

Nobody likes Skyward Sword.

[@Zeldahol]

Stop looking at facebook on your phone when you're watching videos.

[@weluvncsu]

@@Zeldahol I don't know how I'm supposed to stop though!! I mean have you seen these cat videos?!?!?

[@Zeldahol]

Brian Thompson you are redeemed sir.

[@Tatertots_yummy]

Almost 9 years later and now you can finally explore a dungeon with your Goron friend.

[@ElvenRaptor]

You mean you can explore one room with your Goron friend.

[@umberscore2051]

​@@ElvenRaptor I think you mean you can explore the entire map with your Goron friend

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@umberscore2051 You could already do that in Majora's Mask.

[@WL-bs4nc]

There’s no friend in Majora’s Mask, YOU are the Goron and friend at the same time… because you’re alone

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@WL-bs4nc Okay, and...? Still not anything new.

[@nabilel-hassan9490]

Imagine Arin doing a sequalitis on Skyward Sword vs Breath Of The Wild, he would lose his shit

[@NicolaiWozky]

The funny part this that they have the same director.

[@h.p.wallnut9912]

Imagine Arin doing sequalitis anymore, i would lose my shit.

[@Justin-qb1yw]

@@h.p.wallnut9912 We*

[@djphildeez6357]

Would be a great return to sequalitis

[@mercymaycry3386]

I'd pay to see that 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@thewannabegamer9]

Wow. This made me realize that Arin was truly begging for Breath of the Wild before it was even a thing. No wonder it’s his favorite Zelda game now.

[@TheBaldr]

I was wondering if the team watch this video and then made the game.

[@jedyzichterman358]

Which surprises me, because I found the content in BotW very one note and pretty boring tbh. I can only see so many 2 braincell solution shrines before I eventually tap out lol

[@weebsportsresort682]

Jedy Zichterman I’m actually working on a video essay about why BotW isn’t Zelda right now and honestly the more I work on it the more evidence I gather.

[@sircolt8184]

@@weebsportsresort682 Are you going to use low fi hip hop beats in the background while usually beeing an english native speaker and advertise skillshare to us around 40% into the video?

[@weebsportsresort682]

Sir Colt No, I’m going to use Persona and Zelda music. As for Skillshare, I’m too cool for sponsors. (My way of saying that I have 20 subs)

[@IgnatiusBlaze4]

Still one of my favorite thing's Egoraptor has ever said... "what am I doing with my life, I am harshly criticizing Ocarina of Time on the Internet. I'M GONNA GET CRUCIFIED!" this was the last we heard of him, no one knows if he was crucified or is in hiding. Sources say Arin Hanson of Game Grumps may know his whereabouts. Edit: this gem is at 17:25... Egoraptor still has not been found to this day, and Arin Hanson of Game Grumps refuses any comments on the matter of his whereabouts, 8 years after this video was made, and 2 since my comment was. Journalists still trying to dig for the truth.

[@bradleydebevoise-ward5591]

Hm, sounds credible, I'll get my team to get into contact with him.

[@bendystrawz2832]

He does do "walking away from the mic while shouting" moments really well. I like the "NO BIG DEAL" one, too. Maybe he's related to Arin Hanson of Game Grumps.

[@darklight1030]

He's a self proclaimed martyr....

[@vegamineral207]

That's cool, my favorite Egoraptor quote is "OOOOOPSSSZ" 13:03

[@FETUSSTATUS]

I still have hope that one day Arin makes another one of these. His humor just shines in this kind of format

[@JurgenBlitz]

Same, man. I get that the guy is up to his neck in work and videos like this one takes way too much work, but I really enjoyed the Sequelitis videos and I wish there's another one at some point

[@punoil]

Too bad his arguments suck ass and he has no ground to stand on lmao

[@_black_bird]

Probably too much effort required, I don't think it's ever gonna happen lol

[@Shinyslaking64]

I think if he made another, it wouldn't be the same. He's changed so much since then.

[@dreameater2372]

His humor isn't the same anymore, it feels too forced and disingenuous. He's overly concerned with not offending anyone to a unhealthy degree

[@otisjoi]

"You can subscribe to know when new Sequilitis episodes come out!" *4 years later*

[@voncreates947]

I'm wondering if maybe he's just said everything he wanted to.

[@Cpg443]

I honestly hope he makes a fuckin huge video

[@Cpg443]

On Minecraft porn

[@MrZeldafan125]

@@Cpg443 ... you sir have my interest

[@cutcc]

We must not lose hope =)

[@SmoothRiker]

I like how Dan references this video all the time and is a genuine fan of his buddy's work. I want a friend like Dan.

[@dochallah1721]

Everyone does

[@cusionmon6652]

He's a really cool dude but he's such a yes man to everything Arin says, I'd like it if Dan could say just once something that combats with Arin's point of view.

[@zerekbasch9988]

Cusionmon maybe that's because danny actually agrees with what arin says.

[@cusionmon6652]

I mean when Arin says stupid stuff without justifying it or giving a good example and Dan just takes his word for it, like with sonic Arin is very rarely fair with Sonic, and I know that most of his games aren't great but he never gives a good reason why he clumps all the games together when he doesn't even give the original trilogy a chance. Dan just agrees with him when he knows nothing about Sonic. An example of someone being fair with sonic even when they don't really like him would be Vinny from Vinesauce. Vinny said that he disliked sonic as a kid because the commercials for genesis told him how to hate and he could never really get into Sonic because of those experiences. Despite that he still gave Sonic a chance by playing through Sonic 3 and Knuckles with Imakuni, and by the end he said that he really enjoyed it.

[@vimy-joneskatusa8405]

Cusionmon or the subway conversation

[@garpogods8323]

This guy reminds me alot of Arin from Game Grumps. What are the chances we could get him on the show?

[@junkiiramen]

Garpogods tHaT’s bEcAuSe iT iS aRiN

[@Zeoproo]

@@junkiiramen That's the joke

[@ser_odin820]

@@junkiiramen What? No fucking way, totally different people! One is clearly called Egoraptor and is a cartoon, whilst Arin is a human being.

[@Backseatdriver126]

@@junkiiramen omg your a genius!!!

[@Crowrainfall]

@@junkiiramenr/woooosh

[@bibliofowl]

In a perfect world Arin would make a new Zelda Sequelitis comparing Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.

[@keroberos2781]

Nerrel has a good one

[@TheMooper27]

Same game, TOTK just has more stuff and different abilities.

[@wigglesbee]

theyre the same game you redditard

[@lolasogm]

Shit games. What fun is exploration when you already know the best thing you are gonna get is a fucking shrine lmao. You get to a huge area to find shrines lmao

[@unwritten_zephyr]

I just noticed, after all these years, Arin named his Link in Skyward Sword “Ugghhhhhh”

[@arthurchase5949]

Nah in the GG playthrough his name was Spoompls

[@MarioPfhorG]

His ocarina play through has “Buttface, you have truly matured as an adult” 😂

[@Sharon_Hocutt]

@@MarioPfhorG and link to the past has... "FARTS!"

[@bendystrawz2832]

"Master Uggghhhhhhhh" still gets me every. Single. Time.

[@selfiestick1589]

same, and i rewatch all the sequilities about thrice a month

[@NintendoCapriSun]

10:07 20:42 22:50 27:16 28:29 29:41 And yet people accuse him of presenting his opinions as "facts".

[@foxmcloud23]

+NintendoCapriSun holy shit didn't think id find you here

[@chinokiovonk7283]

+NintendoCapriSun hey man I never played a Zelda game except for links awakening and I think its okay but(t) it might be true what he says about the format it could be better with some games like idk say gta is always the same and it sold millions of copies and that is not a bad thing but it might also not be good thing seeing as difference in gameplay is important and that is also what games should do improve the gameplay with new thing but keep the overall feeling of the game the same so yeah give me your idea btw I'm 14

[@RynKen]

+NintendoCapriSun My issue is more that he sometimes bases his opinions from false information that he provided. Like putting that Lizolof in the wait for an opening thing. They have no way of defending so what was Arin waiting for?

[@MrSupahLink]

+TehSooper Iloominity If you actually believe the first Zelda is more expansive and explorable, you're out of your mind.

[@MrSupahLink]

+TehSooper Iloominity If you actually believe the first Zelda is more expansive and explorable, you're out of your mind.

[@VaatiVidya]

soooooo basically dark souls

[@A-Duck]

YOU. I like you. You give me a funny feeling in my pantsicles. Praise the sun.

[@zombieplasticclock]

Like an older, rudimentary Dark Souls. Man that'd be something, wouldn't it? If instead of the Dynasty Warriors/Zelda crossover that's coming up if instead it was a Souls/Zelda crossover

[@EndyMMG]

zombieplasticclock PRAISE THE TRIFORCE!! The.... Sun... force... PRAISE THE SUNFORCE!!

[@frairf]

thats what i was thinking!

[@idolikefruit5592]

:3 hi ....haha its funny cause i was think dark souls as well xD a sense of exploration an that feeling of you can go anywhere and challenge and such...yeah okay bye vaati :3 love your vids an your awesome

[@eribelle753]

"There's no challenge jumping over things, no trouble! I just need to press up! I can close my eyes and do this!" Later, Arin has a mental breakdown over just "pressing up" in Majora's Mask.

[@stephaniewilcox4836]

Wait, Arin just said attacking a clam isn't hard. I'VE WATCHED HIM GET KILLED BY THEM REPEATEDLY

[@cassiosaurus]

FUCKING CLAMS

[@TheComatoseCreator]

Fugin clams

[@digglesgiggless]

Ah, I see you have discovered the truth.

[@Iaregodzirra]

they are kinda wierd like that, i had trouble with them

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

They aren't hard as long as you're paying attention and not trying to also do improvisational comedy at the same time as playing a game.

[@sunfeatherX3]

I don't care what year it is, I'll still be here.

[@kibberkobber]

you couldve waited until jan 1st 2019 for added validity but you didnt, so perish.

[@barackobama7563]

@@kibberkobber We're the true intellectuals here.

[@oliviajane6713]

Same man.

[@Poopoo-sq7nh]

Pp hard.

[@jjs32stepstoenlightenment37]

Soooo who is here in 3748

[@Ryanjakehenry]

“I S E E Y O U T H E R E L O O M I N” That kills me every time

[@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322]

Jaker The Snaker I started using this in life and every time I hope people catch the reference... they never do.

[@CrashDunning]

@@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 Why does he call it that?

[@ReinhartSchneider]

hi reddit

[@brocake1278]

Sorry man I’m just curious 😟

[@majorastorm]

Luigi looks like Wallace without the mustache

[@bhutch600]

Still waiting on that sonic sequilitis….or any sequilitis…

[@Ando3818]

There is so much….. GOD DAMN WAITING for another Squeilitis

[@russellwestbrook462]

arin doesn't even like 2d sonic idk why he would make a sequelitis for it

[@Sesosana]

“That’ll let you know when New Sequelitises are coming out” Funny, Arin, real funny.

[@projectjellyfish4648]

ikr

[@MidnightMuffin]

Well he DOES like to call himself a professional comedian.

[@portagenial]

Best joke in the entire Video, tbh

[@SnekOil]

@@MidnightMuffin Makes people laugh

[@maddiechump]

@@SnekOil laughing so hard we cry and cry and cry

[@JoeBob-rc3cp]

"You can click that subscribe button right there, and that'll let you know when a new sequilitis is coming out" The wait has been long, but our vigil holds: we must be ready should the signal come. I am sure it will be any day now...

[@MechanicalRabbits]

he's said many times he doesn't want to do more but I still hold to hope. These videos are both interesting and so funny that they're a joy to rewatch every now and then

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

@@MechanicalRabbits i completely disagree with his opinions in this video and it’s my favorite sequelitis episode to rewatch lol

[@stutterman176]

still waiting, i can wait more

[@charlesmarlowstanfield]

Honestly makes me want to watch the LOTR again.

[@theguy3851]

It's not gonna happen.

[@butterman59]

I literally just rewatched this for the part where he goes "OoPs"

[@sebastiansimon7557]

It’s at 13:02, dear future readers.

[@263malice]

butterman59 I actually say that. Oooops!

[@tiberseptim37]

I'm here for the "oH mY gOoOoD!..."

[@rngsilvercraft3995]

It's at 26:42

[@saraskyline8331]

Steelson Strough 5:11 here you go

[@TheHuskyK9]

13:03 I love how that "OOPS" became a sound bite now

[@markeyiszra]

Mostly Schaffrillas.

[@Gregsplays]

i really wanna see him do another one of these about BoTW now

[@TidySage]

never gonna happen, unfortunately :( he's dead and has been replaced by a wannabe pop star

[@phantomnite]

@@Obscured-thing no it's 4 years old lol. It's closing in on 5 years

[@Obscured-thing]

@Kynan Bunce :/

[@seandaemon]

@@TidySage lol what

[@TidySage]

@@seandaemon yeah this is old Arin, the Arin of today is someone who doesn't animate anymore :/

[@SmoothMcGroove]

A Link to the Past changed my life as a kid. When I heard a 3D Zelda was on the way for the N64, my 12-year-old imagination exploded into images of mind-blowing cave exploration in an open world. Arin hit on some important topics in this video, and whether you agree with him or not, he did a fantastic job of analyzing what makes Zelda fun and what possibly takes away from a great experience. Exploring the ideas behind what makes games fun can lead to new ideas, which might just inspire some awesome new games!

[@YahirandEagle]

holy poop, I love your vids McGroove!

[@SabreOfficial]

Well said, Smooth. You're an awesome guy and I'm glad you didn't flip any tables after the video ended haha. :D

[@bird_cult]

Aye Smooth! I absolutely think you're right. I agree with most things Arin said, but I still love Ocarina to death. He really did a great job on it and it made me think about a lot of stuff I hadn't payed attention to before

[@AnimeKing40]

Well said. My favorite game in the series is Twilight Princess. And while I did get frustrated, confused, etc, I still enjoyed the game and what it had to offer. People have their own opinions and that's okay. And they're free to share them, especially if they can explain their train of thought like Arin did. For the same reason Arin doesn't like Ocarina, someone else loves it.

[@GameLifeBalance]

***** Smooth McGroove may have just shared this video on his Google+ page, if he's active there, and his post automatically logged as this "comment." KZbin has been weird lately about pulling in Google+ posts and displaying them as comments on videos when people share them there. Happens to us all the time. ^CG

[@elijahayers2429]

Man, it has been 5 years since the last Sequelitis. The one he's working on now must be crazy if it's been 5 years in the making!

[@McThiccums69]

Bruh I wish

[@risdio51]

How....how do I break this to you...

[@nman625]

Retro Studio fans be like:

[@molemanfan147]

Barry's been doing some good ones on his channel

[@elijahlunt276]

@@nman625 I felt that

[@Istayton95]

Anybody else notice he was still wearing the hover boots when he didn’t need to in the footage?

[@Zhoaten]

He legit did EVERYTHING wrong in his playthrough. This is a terrible review by someone who stubbornly ignored basic game mechanics until the very end.

[@LordParticle]

tbf though I've done that a few times, but I was just leaving the boots on out of laziness and not wanting to switch them out after every area that needed them like in the water temple

[@toxicmanbaby1069]

@@LordParticle Thus proving that switching boots in OOT is tedious business, thereby validating a major point of this video.

[@xXMalakianXVII]

@@toxicmanbaby1069 But of course switching items in LttP is completely fine.

[@toxicmanbaby1069]

@@xXMalakianXVII Yes. Yes, it absolutely is. ...did you think you had something? It's not even comparable. What saves the item switching in OOT is the fact that you can have 3 equipped. This makes it bearable DESPITE the slow, clunky menu. The boots aren't equipable on C buttons, therefore, they suffer from this issue. Majora's mask improved the menu speed, but doesn't have boots, so it's also not an issue there. You should avoid embarrassing yourself by making smartypants sarcastic remarks when you don't even understand what the issue is. Cheers.

[@boibleu22]

Still waiting on that new episode of Sequelitis

[@jacobhuitzil8070]

Would like an appetizer while your waiting~

[@tseraff941]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats not happening

[@Naterkix]

Yeeeeeeah... No. I'm 96.89% sure that's not gonna happen.

[@quacknut28]

Got any mozzarella sticks?

[@jamesryker5128]

The guy in the comments I think we know why...

[@Hutch2Much]

Egoraptor: **complains about Zelda being hand-holdy and slow** Nintendo, about to make BotW: a’aight

[@johnnynorrisjr.39]

Behold the power of expression. :)

[@waterguyroks]

Less handholding but even slower

[@Darkstander]

@@waterguyroks slower? How is it slower? Its bigger so sure it takes more time to move around. But it not slower. A game that lets you go to the last boss within the first hour is not slow.

[@Itsthatbun]

@@Darkstander Sure, but at that point you're not playing the game. You're playing a single boss fight. And I get that some people find that fun, and it is good that the option is at least there. But if you want to actually play the game for everything it has to offer and do all the wondrous exploring that Arin spent 30 minutes arguing for, it's hella slow.

[@_harpollo_]

@@Itsthatbun one of the best things about botw is that you can play it however you want, at any pace you want. and the world you're in is huge and fun to explore. so even if it slower paced, i feel that its hard to be bored in botw. its not a bad thing to take your time. and again, the game doesn't force you to take your time if you don't want to

[@nsp]

OH FUCK YES!!!!!!!!

[@JabsYea]

Oh hi danny/brian.

[@RidiculousReality101]

Do you day that to anything that pleases you, Dan/Brian? XD

[@myboytheharp]

Mind your language young man/ninja

[@BanjoJD]

FINALLY! Am I right?

[@MrSporeaddict123]

ninja brian no kill us pls

[@obscurereference8798]

30:34 so glad I subscribed 8 years ago and got notified of all the new Sequelitis episodes!

[@cryzfizzlepop7555]

People come for Arin's opinion to argue it or agree with it. Me? I'm here for Arin's insanity.

[@dannyflintstone7003]

Who's Arin? I only see Egoraptor. Arin would be a nice guest tho

[@samandcheese_1225]

Well, same actually

[@ArvexYT]

Some people are here for all three.

[@darewestallen]

Really

[@MaestroSero]

The reason I clicked was for the same reason, my guy XD

[@phychomaniac26]

It’s crazy to look back at this after playing breath of the wild. Almost all of his criticism was addressed

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

psychomaniac26 Arin is a hack though

[@Thomas-sv2ez]

Mild Monster no u

[@canudigitsuker]

its funny cause he even said that in the play through

[@Awlorein]

Almost a decade later

[@elliottrogers735]

Ikr I was thinking the whole time “well BOTW took care of that” “BOTW solved that”

[@Luschan]

I can’t believe this was made seven years ago. I remember being so excited when it showed up on my feed, because I’d been waiting years for another sequelitis.

[@therealgod9859]

You’re gonna be waiting for another 7 years

[@offbrandsoda3097]

Lol it’s at 9 now

[@TheSuperRetroBros]

Listen, I can't be the only person who appreciated Arin's dinosaur joke. I looked through the comments. I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE.

[@Valen42069]

I LOVE THE DINOSAUR JOKE SO MUCH

[@Valen42069]

Quote it everytime I see it

[@Bro-cx2jc]

"Jus' lookit that...lookit that comment acknowledging the dinosaurs... ... There's a fuckin' DINO COMMENT right there"

[@simonsaysitall]

"You should never, ever, ever, ever, ever reach that point where you're like ah I'll check that room later----IN A GAME ABOUT CHECKING ROOMS"

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

That is literally only a player preference

[@lowstandards3148]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 yeah I don’t think I’ve ever said I’ll check that room later in a Zelda game 😅

[@far2ez539]

@@lowstandards3148 As a kid, you check every room. As an adult, you know that the game will send you there later so you don't bother.

[@Bollibompa]

@@far2ez539 Not really.

[@junkdog4138]

I feel like through playing oot and majoras mask there’s a lot of times where I’m like, “what other items can I find before I go where I think is the main path to the boss” i wouldn’t say that’s a bad thing

[@MrChocodemon]

I still don't know if he liked bomb bowling.

[@acefenton3967]

MrChocodemon I'm sure you know by now, but he hates it. If you watch the clips while he says "Bomb bowling", they all show Link missing, or a explosion (from a bomb) hitting Link. He stated that in Game Grump's last Mario Maker video.

[@kiToro945]

MrChocodemon it's pretty obvious that he hates it considering after he was talking about it he's like FUCK THIS GAME

[@Polarthief]

Ace Fenton It wasn't that clear from the video and I wasn't sure myself until Dan asked him what that was about (because he too didn't know).

[@thatguyinyourshed900]

Alcest9870 so did he like it?

[@acefenton3967]

Ilja Parfjonovs No. Arin hates bomb bowling, and Skyward Sword in general.

[@Shivery]

It's like Nintendo watch this whole entire analysis and taking their notes down. Then create Breath of the Wild.

[@dietsnails8389]

IKR!!

[@OrangeTie99]

I was going to make this comment. Glad to see others recognized it =P

[@Mayeur000Donz]

Honestly, the similarity between Arin's suggestions and the product that is Breath of the Wild is uncanny. The only main difference may show up when we get to see villages and NPCs, which may provide plot-based context to some sidequests, perhaps.

[@Graphomite]

Pardon me, but I have yet to see any dinosaurs in Breath of the Wild.

[@Mayeur000Donz]

Graphomite Well... we had Miyamoto presenting it. Does that count?

[@mrgabes2215]

Coming back to Egoraptor's old flash videos armed with the knowledge that he's incapable of learning game mechanics really clarifies everything.

[@Foggovor]

I mean he has ADHD. And he’s trying to run a show at the same time and be funny. Everyone learns in different ways, and for him, tutorials and text don’t do it. Probably same reason he struggled in high school. He’s just not wired that way.

[@kingstarscream3807]

@@Foggovor I have ADHD. It doesn't make you retarded.

[@sloppyphart7879]

@@Foggovor then he really shouldn't be critiquing games that he's not "wired" to enjoy then.

[@Foggovor]

@@sloppyphart7879 That’s my point though, I don’t think he understood how anyone could enjoy them. Nowadays he’s mellowed out on a lot of these things, probably because he’s older and has less of a belief that everyone plays the same way he does. You can see that he generally makes less criticisms like this in GG episodes, and when he does, they’re more presented as obligatory gestures to be funny that always end in (essentially) “but whatever though-if you can enjoy it, good for you.” He’s more willing today to view his opinions on game design as opinions rather than fact-which, if you liked his habit of ruffling feathers, makes him a little more boring, but it does definitely make him more palatable to people who think differently about games.

[@leightonrud66]

But he also refuses to try and learn, resulting in him then pissing and moaning or shitting on mechanics when it takes 2 seconds to read how to play or just do the damn tutorial. I have ADHD, not a excuse for him.

[@zacharyhaynes8969]

Watching this video, it really seems like Breath of the Wild was specifically designed for Arin. All the way down to the fucking bats. They make it so the bats are always in swords length like he explained.

[@veryneatguy-838]

Zachary Haynes Even the Goron thing. It's like Nintendo was watching this while they were making BoTW

[@zacharyhaynes8969]

Koopa Kool Nahh. The Goron sequence was SHIT and he was just a ball and chain tied to the player. Fucking hated that part.

[@thelastwindwaker7948]

Phantom Hourglass already did the "Goron helping you through the dungeon" thing much better anyway.

[@jacobmonks3722]

The Last Wind Waker Yeah but that game in general wasn't very good. And it's pretty forgettable as far as Zelda titles go.

[@Indurok]

I really enjoyed Phantom Hourglass. Granted, it's one of the only two Zelda games I actually PLAYED.

[@m3oc]

9:11 Arin fighting the clam: “it’s not very hard to do!” Me: OH IS IT NOT, ARIN????

[@estebancanelo2649]

My exact reaction

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

His playthrough begs to differ. Reminds me of DSP insisting the boss on Dark Souls that took him over an hour to beat wasn't hard.

[@bloodlustrous]

@@VGamingJunkieVT But like... a clam isn't a dark souls boss? It's hard to be patient when you're dealing with a clam because there's no good reason that the clam should be a threat, and it shouldn't block your progress.

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

@@bloodlustrous Dear me, you seem to think I was comparing their difficulties. I'm saying that insisting something that's kicking your ass isn't actually hard. If it wasn't hard, he wouldn't have kept dying.

[@tetherhandle]

“FUCKING CLAAAYUM!!”

[@hunt3r_OW]

There is so much...god damn waiting for an egoraptor upload

[@Sasukeuchiha131000]

Profile picture twinsies

[@hunt3r_OW]

ThatGuyWithTheFace

[@Sasukeuchiha131000]

[@GamingAnimator1]

Gooty cuz he's too busy with game grumps which I personally don't enjoy at all. I think game grumps is annoying, unfunny, and I can barely sit through one minute of a video. I liked it back when egoraptor did these kinds of videos. But sadly it seems like those days are long gone.

[@sebastianconway9177]

Gooty : savage

[@Trigamer64]

People mentioning how BOTW answered all his concerns here. He predicted a ton. But he ALSO predicted TOTK with the goron friend section and that was insane.

[@ThatTallBrendan]

"Your whole _TOWN_ is made of rocks, and you're *STARVING?!?!?"* Rent free my friend. Rent free.

[@MechanicalRabbits]

Ten years ago and 13 million views later, it's possible that wasn't a prediction as much as the actual source of inspiration.

[@magusjiro]

And yet a lot of us consider BOTW, a decent game but not a good LoZ game. The fan base is quite divided on this topic.

[@autorogue]

Arin During Sequelitis: "Ah yes, The amazing Controls are easy to learn and use." Arin During Gameplay: "HOW DO I FUCKING DO THIS SHIT!"

[@legomemekid123]

AutomaticRogue I understand what you're trying to convey but why put it in quotations, it doesn't look smart

[@autorogue]

idk, seemed like something he'd say. I'm not really trying to 'convey' a point, just making a joke.

[@legomemekid123]

AutomaticRogue Yeah, sorry I get you, I get worked up over dumb things when I'm annoyed

[@autorogue]

all good :)

[@TheSpinia]

" I get worked up over dumb things" that's half of the comment section nowadays.

[@jeremyhalla1757]

"None of these enemies are difficult to fight" ...How about those clams

[@micromono4085]

Arin's archenemy

[@wwmxmww5259]

J310 FUCKING CLAMS

[@SayHelloToMyLittleSchwing]

J310 FUCK CLAMS! FUCK GERUDO LADY!

[@joshhall5155]

J310 arin didnt use his sheild thats his fault lol

[@Plankensen]

Better not fuck the Gerudo lady if she got clams

[@Full_of_Tarkus]

Watching in 2018, this is still funny as hell. I know people gave Arin a lot of crap about his sequelitis videos, but his art style and the way he talks and get legitimately angry is just too damn funny.

[@Minumer]

It kinda does though. He can't actually live up to his own advice.

[@NekoinaBox2000]

Minumer he’s doing a show and it’s recorded at 1:00 am after he runs a company. It’s not the same arin that reviewed these games because it’s all he did. Think about it with that in mind. It’s not 100% power arin. It’s 5% power arin, who is using 3% so the show can be entertaining and he doesn’t leave Danny hanging.

[@tristenporter9811]

Why doesn't he upload on this channel anymore?

[@silverhat9956]

@@tristenporter9811 Game Grumps and other projects. Or maybe he just doesn't like animating anymore. Those are my guesses

[@GujinGod]

Every single other Sequelitis is fine, it's this one that's a complete crapshoot and has done nothing but stir the pot when discussing OoT with insanely stupid criticisms that are just mimicked from this shit. If there's any consolation though, it's that he'd probably perform awfully at ALttP as well.

[@garrett8707]

The thing with the waiting is that there are ways to get around waiting. Like circling your enemy. Or getting closer to them.

[@zachroberts6068]

Came here from the Grumps playing OoT and now I have to rewatch it.

[@lliatto]

+Zachary Roberts same

[@tytan2884]

Same

[@chafos]

+Zachary Roberts Same

[@bramm2613]

Same

[@DarkAngelEU]

likewise

[@FroggywithFries]

Even if you disagree with any points raised, there is no denying this video is immensely entertaining. Worth the weight ten fold.

[@coolyoyos18]

I definitely wouldn't wait over a decade for this video. Sry, I just checked how long the wait was. Ten fold would be 26 years and 8 months. Still was a fun video though :D

[@evilsquirrel0573]

i like how you mention it's worth the wait even though the whole video was practically about waiting and how it's bad

[@mellosoda1622]

The video has the best ending. Of course it was entertaining.

[@bambadep]

I'd rather play video games

[@Xyos212]

worth the WAIT* not weight omg....

[@The_UltimateTTV]

4 years later and I’m still rewatching this series Please bring it back 😭

[@Gamernutritionfacts]

I don't think Sequelitis is coming back. Arin is a busy dude with Game Grumps, (his let's play channel) Starbomb,(the band he's a part of) NSP, ( the other band he's a part of) etc... plus, he's married. You've might've already seen at least one of Barry's (Barry is the former editor of Game Grumps, just in case you might not have known) "how about this game" videos, but they're pretty much the new Sequelitis at this point. Also sorry if you already knew what Game Grumps, Starbomb, and NSP were, but I didn't want to just assume that you knew what they were.

[@ThENoOB235]

He’s lost all credibility though after they played through OOT & Majoras Mask on game grumps. Like Erin sucks so bad his arguments are so invalid. And Erin just tends to put his foot in his mouth.

[@ThENoOB235]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3e6emh8m5qBe6s watch from 30:45. Im saying he so bias and negative towards 3d Zelda's. And his ability to "look at the game objectively" gets shit on by him not adjusting his play-style, tactics, or ability to read. The game tells you how to play and gives the player what they need to continue. Erin just wants to cut corners, skip anything, and be done asap. But Erin plays through, while blaming his mistakes on the game and then making a video where he's right and the games wrong. Thats why his critics and opinions fall flat.

[@russell3691]

I would dedicate the rest of my likes to this, forever if that was a possibility. And that Woodland never liked again

[@owlflame]

The Ultimate oh god no. Leave it dead. He has to have learned his lesson by now

[@sewerpeople346]

I love sequilitis. Just the way he presents everything and the pacing and the Arin jokes, it's so good it makes me feel so good. I am constantly in a conflict to where I would LOVE more sequilitis but I am also aware that if he was just forced to make more it would be phoned in and it would not be merely as emotional or passionate as these episodes are....so instead I just watch these over and over again. I would love to make a series in honor of sequilitis. It's so good. It's probably my favorite work of arins

[@lordsuinax3470]

Agreed, I love how seamlessly he flows from topic to topic. It's unfortunate that this video is so poorly received. While his opinions didn't agree with the majority, the way he structured the video was incredibly entertaining, which was kind of the whole point.

[@panthekirb7561]

@@lordsuinax3470 The video is really bad when you give it any thought. Watch even parts of the "this is how you don't play" series about Arin playing the Zelda games. All he does is cry because he is bad at the games and refuses to get better. Its like if someone fell into the first pit in a Super Mario game and complained that the game expects you to jump over obstacles.

[@marw9541]

"Phoned in" is the Arin Hanson MO recently

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Someone did a couple episodes of The Fake Sequelitis, but I hate to admit this, the guy's voice just isn't that funny to me. That was what did half of this content for me: Arin has the voice and deliberate inflection of a natural entertainer. I kept WANTING to hear him say more. It was hilarious. It reminded me of this episode of Last Comic Standing where one of the guys had some really funny jokes but he was telling them with this scared voice and expression, and I was like "wtf is wrong with you, if you can't chill out for a small panel of judges then are you really going to make it onstage" it's a bit rough but honest. The judges were laughing some of the time, but I couldn't, even though the jokes were legit funny. If someone like Arin told them, I would have been rolling on the floor.

[@rabbidluigi]

I may have just stood up and applauded that rant about Skyward Sword.

[@MiyaoMeow588]

You're actually taking Arin's gaming-related opinions seriously? After Game Grumps has proven, on hundreds of different occasions, that he's terrible at games? That, for all he complains about "bad game design", whenever a game shows what he believes to be "good game design", he just gets fucking pissy That he's just an impatient twat? That he's just a nostalgiatard? This is the guy who got lost on Dragon Roost fucking Island, for crying out loud. He complains about games giving you an objective, when HE'S THE PERSON THAT NEEDS THEM THE MOST. /pointlesslyangryrantover

[@JaredPitcher]

I know I did.

[@SmashGuyROA]

Daniel Herzig There is a difference between a good opinion and an opinion fueled completely by autism.

[@Dissius]

SSGuy Which is in itself another opinion fueled by subjective force. Put on some diapers, you're leaking.

[@fabelgo1850]

I kind of don't get all the hate Skyward Sword gets. I have seen people treating it like it is the devils version of Zelda 2. I mean the gameplay were okay, the world design were pretty bad, but the story, characters, bosses and dungeons were much better than other entries in the series.

[@HarmonicVector]

"GUESS GOOFY'S WEIGHT. WIN A PRIZE!' "120 lbs?" "No. *'s too low."*

[@felippesponton]

First time I watched I heard "GUESS GOOFY WAITS, WITH PIE!" "120lbs?" "No. It's too low" haha

[@dylanloveland4590]

@@felippesponton it took me like, 3 years until i could understand what he was saying. and when i finally figured it out i burst out laughing lmao

[@akeral7063]

@@dylanloveland4590 pls explain

[@emilyrasputin]

I don't know why but this moment is one of my favorite parts of this video

[@SkaJrZombie]

SO THAT'S WHAT HE SAID!!

[@ceinpou337]

Arin: I hate how modern Zelda grabs you by the hand all the time. Also Arin: WTF DO I DO!!!!

[@MitoseNorikoFan]

Because he doesn't want to sit around reading bullshit just to know where to go. If the game can't tell you how to do something purely from intuition, then it's not well designed for an explorative adventure game.

[@LucaxCorp]

Neilson Truong - If he’s not willing to read the text then it’s still his fault he doesn’t know where to go. If he can’t even do that much maybe he should stick to linear games where he can’t get lost.

[@lilkxdude5659]

@@LucaxCorp Thats his point though. Ocarina of Time is more linear than 'open world'. Most of the time its literally finding an item and using it on a block way to get to another segment of the exact same thing. If you need to read to progress in an 'open world' game then thats not good.

[@kiwi110]

@@lilkxdude5659 But Ocarina of time never tried or wanted to be an open world game. If it was made to be an open world game then of course it'd fail at that, but that's the point: Ocarina of Time is story focused and linear while games like Breath of the wild give you all the freedom you want. Both are good at what they're doing. If you like them or not is up to personal preference.

[@veintrain8072]

I like how this guy tried to make an Egoraptor sucks at videogame meme, but he didn't know he stepped into a fucking warzone

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

My favorite part of Game Grumps was when Arin died repeated to a Shell Blade in the water temple and ragequit Majora's Mask cuz he couldn't beat Gomess. :)

[@Chrysoprase-rq2kn]

I’m back from the TP playtrhough to recognize the hard work Arin put into _The Adventures of Lincoln_ bless him

[@1122markj]

The Japanese version of A Link to the Past doesn't tell you where to go. I think they just put that in the western releases cause that was back when Nintendo was convinced that we were all really bad at video games.

[@FilmGamer224]

Yeah. Look at Mario 2 in the U.S.

[@whatthefrack1220]

2015: oh arin is just taking his time with the next sequaltis 2016: i bet he's making a 2 parter or a hour long vid 2017:please answer my prayer arin, make the next sequaltis 2018:God is Dead, he has forsaken us for our sin of believing Ocarina of time is better than a link to the past.

[@deboreynolds]

Cadaverta 123 I'm from the near future... Sequelitis is dead bro.

[@saxgod3266]

2022:oh hey he made that sequeltis

[@lightningshy5287]

I honestly think it's dead now because of this one. Because I guess apparently the really immature Zelda geeks couldn't handle his opinion of this game.

[@ryancote9821]

I remember him telling dan in a not so recent game grumps episode that he wanted to do a sequelitis for BotW so keep your fingers crossed!

[@BroadcasterRed]

+Lightning Shy mean, I don't know why Arin would give a single fuck about the stupid Zelda geeks, look at the video, look at them 250K likes, dude he KNOWS that VASTLY more people like these videos than not. Maybe its because he's doing Star Bomb and goes on tours for that and he's doing grumps (which he also goes on tour for) And he had his youtube red show... I think the guys free time to do sequelitis is non-existent

[@Momoka7]

If this video taught me something... it is that you can nitpick every game. That being said, all criticism shown in this video here are valid. It shows that with increased complexity of games things can sneak in that are negative. Sometimes those things are there because of the engine, sometimes because of the way it is programmed (like the time it takes to open the menu to put on the iron boots and get out again... it could have been put on some hot key). This video still rings true 10 years later.

[@linebeck1381]

You can tell that this isn’t gameplay from Arin because you see that the player uses the shield.

[@chrisallison8304]

And the player is actually good at the game.

[@fidget0227]

I wouldn’t compare someone playing the game to gather footage for their persuasive video essay with someone playing while only half paying attention (at best)

[@Left4Cake]

I think it's pretty clear Arin wouldn't use his experience from game grumps to write a detailed essay on a game...

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@fidget0227 Except in this video he still fights most enemies by either impatiently mashing B, or by using his inconsistent and unsatisfying "wait, attack" method. He also never killed the shellblade.

[@danawalpole2216]

Shields are worthless in Oot honestly unless your unskilled or speedrunning the absolute only times a shield is required or is the only viable option is the three deku scrubs at the deku tree before ghoma and the short time in the spirit temple as well as the one sun in ganons castle. Otherwise there are better or faster methods Edit: ganons castle sun cus derp

[@SparoTheSpider]

"That'll let you know when new Sequilitises are coming out" best joke of the video.

[@avalanche0238]

Hahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahha! xD

[@BryceD515]

Oh Arin's gonna love Breath of the Wild

[@trinitylynne4693]

I KNOW RIGHT? when I was watching the trailer and looked at nintendos description I couldnt stop thinking about Arin! I want to know his opinions on it!!!

[@QuintMarvel]

The bats have eyes, and there are markers on the map. 0/10

[@MysteryMii]

And there's no "Bomb Bowling".

[@Link2000Thor]

Uhm, Keese* have eyes. xD (Seriously though, what the fuck nintendo,did someone Trademark Bat in 86?

[@docbrown10th]

But stamina bar tho.... :/

[@Jonassoe]

Maybe a controversial take, but Zelda isn't really about exploring and hasn't been since the NES games. It's become about exploring again with BOTW and TOTK, but for most of its run, the main gameplay of the series has not revolved around exploring. It's mainly about going to specific locations and solving puzzles there, and completing some levels. I don't even think OoT pretends to be about exploration, it's pretty blatantly guiding you from one dungeon to the next. The fact that people love the game in spite of that tells me that you probably shouldn't judge it as an exploration type game. It should be reviewed on its own merits.

[@AnkhOfAscalon]

Thats.... kind of the point of the video?

[@paris-1911]

I'd say much of what he says still stands when looking at Ocarina in isolation. Definitely not a perfect game, and its wrinkles in how it tries to translate Zelda into 3D get ironed out (more or less) in its sequels. Even taken on its own, I still think the game is a bit bloated and, at times, lacking in good pacing in its second half. I think the massive asterisk to Ocarina's name is that it was really the first of its kind in 3D, and the fact that it got a lot right on its first try is incredible... ... But that said, this video is entirely about removing Ocarina from the context of its time, seeing how well it stacks up today when _compared_ to its brethren. I think it would be a little narrow-minded to try and encircle Ocarina and other 3D entries in their own bubble of "different," when they bare the name of the series and still attempt at loosely following the exploration/combat template set by Ocarina. Especially after Breath of the Wild, I think Arin was on the right track when he essentially questions just how "Zelda" is Ocarina of Time? Considering they trended the series back to the roots of the series with the last couple of entries (though I think TOTK was far less successful at that), Ocarina's shadow over the series needed some productive rethinking.

[@starcrysis23]

Did no one explore in Ocarina?

[@AnkhOfAscalon]

@@starcrysis23 nope

[@GamersCast]

Okay, I've often called Ocarina of Time one of my favorite games of all-time, BUT there were a LOT of very valid points made in this video. I'm not going to defend them, but the thing is, any film professor will tell you, "You can't take a film out of its time." And to a certain extent, the same can be said about a lot of video games. Not all of them, but a lot. 1998 was still during a shift in the spectrum, companies were still learning how to go about the new world, like 3D movies were a little while ago. Companies weren't sure how to go about things, so a lot of design choices were borrowed from actual film (see Twilight Princess). And it was the first one. But my fondest memory of Ocarina of Time, was fighting Ganon. As a child, the scale of everything was so epic, and it wasn't clear what to do right away, as there was no clear "dunegeon item" to use. There was every item you collected throughout the game and had to figure out how to do it. THEN, the ONE THING that was always constant was taken away: your sword. You had to get creative and really think about how to win. That is why Ocarina of Time stood out. It was the lasting impression I was left with. I wasn't thinking about the water temple and all that bullshit after beating Ganon. I just knew, I beat Ganon, it was an awesome fight and I had a huge sense of fulfillment for doing it. Yes, it's about time to break down OoT critically, because Nintendo fell into a slump of getting very formulaic since then. But since A Link Between Worlds, it makes me think Zelda could be headed back in the right direction again. But as I started, you can't take some things out of its time and looking at what Ocarina of Time did in its own time, it was a huge achievement. Ocarina of Time isn't perfect, far from it as pointed out here, but it is definitely one of the most memorable experiences I had playing a game as a child.

[@doomgu544]

I admire your ability to be able to accept that something that you love has flaws.

[@RustyKoi]

The problem here isn't really admitting whether or not Ocarina has flaws. It's the fact that a lot of the things he pointed out as flaws and bad game design- aren't really flaws so much as they are just him REALLY sucking at the game.

[@ChoppSueey]

I agree with you 100% Ocarina of Time is my favourite game aswell. Thinking that it's perfect and doesn't have flaws is just silly.

[@kisheartless]

RustyKoi he is joking and trolling acting like he sucks at it, the waiting fighting system does drag the combat down or possibly the combat is slightly flawed enough to anger or annoy someone really listen to what he says about z targeting and the design of traps and levels due to 3d what is okay with 2d might not work out in 3d

[@starchmonkey]

RustyKoi That's hilarious because Ocarina of Time is so fucking tame compared to a Link To The Past.

[@momosaysnono4993]

Fun fact: if you read through the comments in Top Comments first mode, the comments progressively get more salty and butt hurt

[@saltstorm3199]

I think Arin made this for the soul purpose of insulting Skyward Sword

[@chrono2208]

Im your 69th like.

[@StarliteWings]

@@chrono2208 nice

[@myfunbox355]

"Your idea of fun ends up making you a hero" reminds me of Spec Ops the Line as an opposite to that

[@ThatTallBrendan]

I see somebody watched the Jacob Gellard video

[@luckypiee]

"Hey man that's low." _"So's my interest in playing you again."_ //Casually looks over to the Skyward Sword playthrough on GG

[@nexongn]

Yeah... but that is mostly Dan’s fault

[@bensjammin9]

I’m so happy they’re playing SS. I’ve wanted that ever since this video.

[@ComradeGrimmGames]

nexogen, It's no one's 'fault', it's a great playthrough.

[@thegreatmajora5089]

He spends like 10-15 of that playthrough complaining about how much he doesn’t want to do it

[@jacksypher3403]

To be fair it took 4 years and an april fools episode for him to even consider it. He plays it reluctantly I might add

[@matthewcline4105]

I love how he talks about how OoT has so much waiting but never mentions the part where you have to wait the most... “Mweep... mweep... mweep... mweep...”

[@saint3106]

I've watched that Big Beluga Whale scoot aside at least 40 times in my life. We can all perfectly hear it just reading your comment.

[@1337pianoman]

That part is super weird because it's clearly intentional. You don't make something that is obviously objectively not fun and somehow not notice and leave it in the game accidentally. So ... why? Were they just playing a joke on the player? Maybe they just thought it was funny. It kinda is. Maybe the designer sketched out the layout and had the king dude sitting in front of the door and after they'd actually designed the character they realised that he wouldn't be able to move quickly and no one considered changing it so that a door just opened up beside him or something.

[@bonecoldplays8518]

WHOA ! LOOKING COOL JOKER !

[@danielblanchette8593]

I believe there is a long version of that on youtube

[@DSteinman]

Oh god first thing I thought of, timed it once it was a full 30 seconds

[@spencergallucci5309]

"Wait, attack. It's not hard to do!" *gets killed by clams endlessly in both ocarina and majoras mask on gg*

[@veintrain8072]

Mans didn't even use his shield

[@KarmaticFluff]

And im pretty sure he hasnt beaten the bat demon guy in the stone temple

[@MarioLuigiTheBomb]

Spencer Gallucci I HATE THOSE F*CKING CLAMS

[@cheesedip1]

I think hes talking about how tedious the game is

[@razzledcroaker3678]

To be fair, he's never really tried that hard. He's said before he doesn't really focus on gsmeplay during playthroughs, choosing just to roll through and have fun. Plus, he already hates the games, so it's kinda like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@bereketterefe829]

here from noodles video?

[@VickTheConqueror]

same, noodles video was pretty boring.

[@lazychild3]

@@VickTheConqueror Yeah dont understand the weird like white knighting

[@VickTheConqueror]

@@lazychild3 noodles is just making content and ranting. About an ancient video and how people act on the internet.

[@raymondvalko5461]

Ye I was bored

[@prestonvickers]

@@VickTheConquerori feel like he took the “zelda fan diss” in this video too seriously. by finding that character offensive you essentially become that character

[@alexanderinoa7850]

IM GONNA GET CRUCIFIED! Oh egoraptor. It's your opinion! No one will… *looks at comment section* OH JESUS!!

[@second3455]

Alexander Inoa we criticize him because many of his complaints are changes that were put in to cater to the part of the fandom that he's not part of...

[@6IX-369]

Mouful's Second Channel yeah waiting is something that every Zelda fan wanted megaman legends 1-2 does what oot did better

[@freedomzero6430]

Ocarina of time in a nutshell

[@jacoblauria8180]

Mouful's Second Channel Yes, but people are being ridiculously disrespectful and arrogant when they criticize Arin. That’s the problem here.

[@rcdoubleu8696]

Listening to Arin explain “poopy castles” will always crack me up

[@thedman1754]

I like poopy castles, hands up who else like poopy castles. I made a lot of poopy castles, i have lots of memories with poopy castles.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Yeah just his inflection right there XD dammit if people realized that was half the key to good comedy like this then it would be fantastic

[@TheBfutgreg]

Basically if Termites could build castles

[@b2j135]

I love how BotW literally hits on EVERY point that made him hate OoT AND SS and is damn near PERFECT :p It's like Nintendo was...watching... 0_0

[@poopman1267]

b2j135 SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

[@mysterycupofjoe2670]

b2j135 Boss battles could use some work.

[@colelambert5892]

BotW isn't that good and while yes it does hit some stuff he talks about in this video there are new problems

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Cole Lambert "Breath of the Wild isn't that good" wow, haven't seen that comment 100 times already.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Mystery Cup of Joe I agree. Really liked thunderblight though.

[@Xankar1]

Arin really was like, a very different person back in this era. Its so, unfamiliar now, despite this being the Arin most people knew cause of his animation days.

[@yoyofargo]

This video has so much more context when you know Arin doesn't know he has a shield in OoT.

[@VGInterviews]

or any other item for that matter, but yes, playing OoT without ever removing the hover boots does make it go slower

[@harshal1153]

@@satan-kun8974 It also has a lot more stratagy

[@yoyofargo]

@@satan-kun8974 There are a lot of enemies who if you just let hit you when your shield is up they open their hit window sooner and more predictably. But yeah there's still so much god damn waiting in this game. I'm looking at you mr sqeaky ass zora.

[@TerryVideoZone]

@@satan-kun8974 every enemy he uses as an example for this point has a way to open up their guard lol

[@ianreynolds4556]

@@satan-kun8974 Deku nuts for a start.

[@TheStrikeofGod]

"GUESS GOOFY'S WEIGHT, WIN A PRIZE!" "...120 pounds?..." "...no...it's too low"

[@mrbanks456]

the most "da fuq" moment in the video

[@Titan0l]

Two words: Bomb Rolling.

[@TGOTYZero]

69 kg?

[@PhoenixGC89]

Kills me everytime lol

[@bunoahoh2628]

What time is this moment at??

[@ForeverMasterless]

I've been thinking a lot about this video since I first saw it, because it is a fantastic example of Arin's duality. On the one hand, he can make fantastic, intelligent arguments. On the other hand, he is incapable of separating his arguments from his own bias at times. Arin's most consistent failing as a critic of game design, I think, is that he builds entire critiques on the foundation that games which place an emphasis on player discovery and more free-form gameplay are inherently better than more guided experiences. Except, they're not inherently better. It's simply his preference. There's something to be said for experiencing an artist's exact vision, the same way we do with film and literature. It is still art, and you still have the freedom to interpret it in your own way whether or not the pixels on the screen have the same freedom as in other games. Again, I get it. It's not Arin's thing, and that's fine. How many times have we heard Danny chide him for never, ever reading? How many times has Danny been surprised at the movies Arin hasn't seen? He'd probably scoff at me comparing games and books to each other because he wants to experience his entertainment in a way where he has full control to create his own story. He really, really doesn't want a story told to him, or an experience meticulously designed for him to go through in a specific manner. Doesn't matter how good it is. Again, that's fine because everybody has their preferences. It's not a solid foundation to critique anything, though. Essentially, Arin makes the mistake that separates good critics from bad ones. He Judges a game based on what it is vs what he wants it to be, rather than how well it achieved what it was actually trying to do. He criticizes Ocarina for being less open than the previous games, and for telling you where to go, completely dismissing the fantastic art, music, deeper combat, and dungeon/puzzle design. The combat makes him wait a little bit, so it's worse even though it's better (what?). The puzzle elements don't all fit in your eyeballs at once, so the puzzles are worse. Does he lack object permanence? The disparate puzzle elements and vertical, layered dungeons of Ocarina are precisely why those puzzles are more satisfying to me. You had to actually remember shit as you went along, trying to keep everything that you knew did something in mind while you saw new things that, might, have a connection with it. Most importantly, it doesn't let him wander around an over-world forever, trying to find the next dungeon and discovering secrets that rely on sheer luck to find, so it's not as good as the the first game, or even LTTP. To him, player discovery and agency trumps everything. Which is totally fine, as long as he knows it's a preference and not an objective quality upon which to critique a game, which...he doesn't always seem to. Certainly not in this video.

[@MediRon]

ForeverMasterless i think what arin meant with the combat thing is that it is better, it is just poorly implemented in oot though i agree with everything else you said, hell i play a lot of jrpgs and wrpgs and i can tell you that that jrpgs are not as open ended as wrpgs and focus more on the story and shit while wrpgs focus on the world and exploring but neither is inherently better than the other and i love both genres

[@MarcoTalin12]

From the first sequelitis (castlevania 1 vs 2), I'd say that your assumption that Arin's bias is towards free form exploration isn't quite accurate. The whole free form thing comes from the context of "Zelda games", which is why he starts this LttP vs OoT video with neither of those games, but with the first Zelda, which is a very unguided game that relies on the player's desire to explore for most of its progression. The video details the slow progression of Zelda games from a wide-open "choose where you want to go" exploration set-up to a series of set pieces and challenges for a player to clear, culminating in what Arin believes to be the representation of this progression: Skyward Sword. "Is it better? Is it worse? I dunno, but it's not the same!"

[@pakapakapaka]

ForeverMasterless "He criticizes Ocarina for being less open than the previous games, and for telling you where to go, completely dismissing the fantastic art, music" 4:24 He did touch on the graphics and music. Or were you stating that he didn't go into enough detail about how good it is? "deeper combat" 6:28 pretty clear detail about the combat. and just in case you missed where he says something good about the combat 9:29 "Dungeon/puzzle design" 11:30 It seems that everyone only noticed when he spoke poorly about the game, and not the good things he mentioned. Also, He loves ALTTP, but he did critique it as well 2:00 People need to understand that to truly love a game, you must acknowledge its flaws and embrace them, not ignore them like it doesn't exist. I love FFVIII, The Drawing system (although new and innovative, and genuinely a cool idea) sucks, The tutorials all over the first 3 hours of the game, The Junction system is dumb and the characters rely on it too much (same with the GFs), The Stupid Queen of cards, and many more...I still love FFVIII

[@ForeverMasterless]

pakapakapaka I'm not saying it's a flawless game, or that he didn't throw it a couple (very small) bones. I'm saying ALL of his critiques are based on this idea that play agency and discovery trump everything else, no matter what, at all times. They're all coming from that place, and it's a flawed starting point. I find combat in LTTP boring, and the hitboxes are fucked. I'm much more likely to feel like I got a cheap hit on me in that game than Ocarina. But, yeah, I guess you don't have to wait for an opening ever and you can can kill bats multiple at a time, so that proves how it's better, right? Arin really just comes across here as an impatient gamer, using his own preferences as a basis for critique, and lauding his favorite game while decrying a sequel that wasn't made with his exact tastes in mind. It's quite annoying.

[@ForeverMasterless]

For anyone that wants to see a FAIR review of Ocarina that still pinpoints every flaw, go seek out Mattewmatosis' review on youtube. Arin himself mentioned liking the guy, which is how I know about him, but he's a million goddamn times better at it than Arin could ever hope to be, and Arin would probably even agree with that.

[@looped__8289]

“Now, I’m just gonna stare at you for a couple seconds.” it’s been ten years and he hasn’t blinked once.

[@KMediaCraft]

Ego: "Maybe I should go dowse for another game, huh?" Skyward: "Hey man that's low" ... Ego: "So's my my interest in playing you again" 4 years later on Game Grumps, Arin plays Skyward Sword

[@IlSharmouta]

only took four years of people asking for it

[@erikasakura7721]

He's not interested tho, he's just doing what everybody wants cause he wants everybody to stop bugging him with that.

[@Ro-gp8lj]

@@erikasakura7721 I WISH HE WOULD DO IT WITH SEQUELITIS MAN.

[@erikasakura7721]

@@Ro-gp8lj But it woildn't be good. Content made by people who don't actually want to do it is not good. Have you watched pretty much any of the 3d zelda playthroughs on the grumps channel, Arin just keeps complaining all the way through and it's boring. All that just means that instead of demanding them to do stuff they don't wanna do, we should just appreciate what we're getting.

[@Ro-gp8lj]

@@erikasakura7721 No you're super right aboyt that (i think, i stopped watching grumps for almost that exact reason) but there was an interview that he said he just had to choose between grumps and animation, but then he does the starbomb video... im just hoping.

[@Zimran03]

If this is truly his opinion, he is going to love Breath of the Wild

[@Zimran03]

***** You totally misread my commet.

[@Zimran03]

***** Sorry but can you read? Is said if this is really what he wants in a 3D Zelda game, he will love Breath of the Wild. A 3D Zelda game with what he says he wants is in it.

[@Zimran03]

***** Umm no. I don't think you understand tone at all. No one is raging. All that happens was was that i said he would like something based from his opinion. I didn't question his opinion at all.

[@danielscott9026]

Smokio You trollin? Lol

[@Zimran03]

***** it hasn't even gone wrong. It started bad when you assumed I said something i didn't

[@heuerbardemston4087]

i clicked the subscribe button years ago and i still havent seen the next sequelitis

[@idfrigginkman]

it hurts

[@tomaskaila]

F

[@Kriskirby1992]

The blue bell thingy didn't work either

[@TozWozEar]

he'd have to animate something new for it, something he's not going to do because animation was a "pipe dream" according to him

[@heuerbardemston4087]

@@TozWozEar oh damn he said that? arin's one of the newgrounds animators that made me want to try out animation, kinda sad

[@topfranluis1]

By making fun of the Spinner, you have officially provoked a gang war

[@nightfolk]

as I rewatch this today, I wonder how blissful and liberating Egoraptor might have felt when playing Breath of the Wild - it basically responds to all of his critiques about Ocarina of Time's 'open' world

[@mcarroll9270]

You should watch the let's play of him playing Breath of the Wild on the Game Grumps channel. He loves it and keeps raving about how cool and fun it is.

[@nightfolk]

thanks so much for the tip! I'll go check it out

[@nightfolk]

that, my dude, was a precious tip! I did not know about game grumps and now I'm hooked watching them talk about Breath of the Wild and enjoying it a lot! thanks so much

[@skynet010]

juca oliveira a month ago was when u found out about gamegrumps?!he fucking made a video on this channel about it like 4-5 fucken years ago. when it was starting with jontron an now with danny. geez what have u been doing with your life.

[@nightfolk]

haha I know I know, it's just that I hadn't really been following egoraptor! I had come across this sequilitis video long ago and then when I finished BOTW, I remembered this and came to rewatch it! the game grumps are amazing though, and I've been thoroughly enjoying their content since I found out about them

[@zumoku3246]

The funny thing is years later Arin starts playing Majoras mask and tries to follow the formula that ocarina of time gave even though the game was mainly sidequest heavy and doesn't want you to play it like you would ocarina of time.

[@alexskocy9948]

Arin is so busy trying to prove a point that every 3D Zelda is bad or the same thing as OoT (excluding BoTW) that he tries to brute force his way from point A to point B only stopping t talk about how bad and linear it is when a game is open or in the case of SS get lost on a path that is on 1 side a straight line to you goal and on the other a shortcut to an earlier location for if you come back to the begining instead of using a later on bird statue then he runs around for 3+ episodes complaining that the game holds your hand to much while struggling over 45-60 minutes to find something that will take most people about 10 minutes to find bc he's so busy complaining that the game doesn't let you figure things out and when it does it's in an "unintuitive way" Arin thinks that being told that there is a switch hidden in a room isn't a puzzle even though it's what all Zelda's do In 3D Zelda's they hide them out of sight and make you look around for them in ALttP they are usually under pots or skulls or something else that hides it from the players vision so you have to look around

[@Devilfish6666]

@@alexskocy9948 Its like with Castlevania, he played part 1 and Zelda 1 and since then thinks every Zelda/Castlevania has to be like that but the games switched their main genre pretty much after part 1. LotP and Castlevania 2 and later are no longer adventures/linear jump n runs. Zelda went more towards adventure-RPG and Castlevania went towards Metroidvania but that is not inherently bad, its just a taste thing. The things he says about Z-targeting for example are all true, clunky and sloppy but when he starts talking about the story its just a taste thing...dialogue in a game isnt inherently a bad thing but for him it is since its "not what Zelda 1 was like". Yeah guess what the genre is different....

[@poppapalpatine8624]

@@alexskocy9948 I don't understand how he can be so impatient. Ocarina of time isn't really that much waiting

[@poppapalpatine8624]

@@Elaina2206 One tiny section of gameplay. If one cutscene that is played for comedic affect is the best example for the game dragging

[@blorbotheidiot5233]

@@Elaina2206 🗿

[@CartoonFan1994]

13:03 Here’s the sarcastic oops EmpLemon, Blue Wader, and Schaffrillas Productions have used in some of their videos.

[@therealcoleycraft]

i have been looking for this for so long

[@jackemmakem]

And the oops that dan references in a video i think

[@Trigamer64]

Man this video is ooooooooooolldd. Like 90% of these lines have been on repeat in my mind throughout my whole life from middle school to adulthood. Im a big fan of Ocarina of Time, this video, and still Arin Hanson/Game Grumps. Some language has not aged well.

[@Gallzatron]

Funny to see Arin doesn't use his shield in any of these clips either lol

[@mr.simpleandcleanburn1192]

Gallzatron probably because he wants to have fun with the game

[@Gallzatron]

Aidan Gray ?

[@Gallzatron]

Aidan Gray What do you mean?

[@bladeravenhead8]

why would you use that

[@Gallzatron]

bladeravenhead8 the shield? You mean a key game mechanic that Arin completely forgets about? You're making no sense here.

[@CritScratch]

the prophecy has been fulfilled

[@GraceMellody]

Christopher Vellios arin playing skyward sword

[@njester025]

Lmao he hates it too

[@billyloper4072]

No SS blew. BOTW is the fulfilment

[@youpickwario1992]

The world has come to it's beautiful time of life.

[@_simon.s_]

Hope he doesn't shit all over TP!

[@TheChimpYeah]

Mr. Vulnerableforasec Glowyeyeball McWeaktoarrows

[@olivreheck]

arin accidentally produced about a decade of memes from this video alone

[@NintendoCapriSun]

"We're gonna need to watch that again." John Locke 2006

[@leonidasdraconic]

xD I love LOST that show was such a twist x3

[@BlackHatProduction61]

You can go watch it again IN THE BATHROOM.

[@leonidasdraconic]

Anthony Quintero-Castaneda YES. xD

[@wheatleythebrick2276]

NintendoCapriSun fuck I need to watch lost to get those references :/

[@MarioLuigiTheBomb]

welp might as well admit it now... I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LOST. ask me about any show, movie, whatever, more often than not, ive never heard of it

[@MakiNoAtorie]

9:12 "its not very hard to do!" +shows clam at the same time+ HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[@camgray2165]

FUCKING CLAM

[@CrusaderEm]

Came to the comment section for this comment

[@krazyllama]

I always die at “HeReS hOw ThIs Is A pOoPy BaD tHiNg”

[@JohnMatayas]

I see now why this is the last sequelitis. Way to drop the ball here.

[@Genji_Glove]

I love Ocarina of Time as much as the next guy, but every piece of criticism Arin gives is absolutely correct. It doesn't mean it's any less of a good game. Every game has flaws. Appreciate Arin for having the balls to point it out. This was an extremely interesting and informative video.

[@InvaderGIR98]

I felt the treasure chest thing was a little nitpicky, but he did have a lot of good points.

[@FrameGame]

Joey Matheny I grew up with all the Zelda games, and the treasure chest thing is something that I noticed myself! I always got incredibly excited to see a treasure chest, but now I don't feel that excited because I can usually guess what it's going to be before I even open it. But getting the big key was always like, "YES!!!! NOW I CAN GO OPEN THAT HUGE AWESOME LOOKING CHEST AND DESTROY THE BOSS!!!!" See the difference? It goes from "I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!" to... "meh... lame... another compass."

[@tomcruisecantlose1130]

If you truly love something- you admit it's flaw's, accept them, and continue loving it

[@ultimateformal]

I like this comment.

[@Genji_Glove]

Nycro 1) Comment makes perfect sense. 2) Doesn't realise I whore myself to Arin and not Zelda fanbases. 0/10

[@ProdArbitrary]

Whether you think think that ocarina of time is good or bad, we all can agree that the music is awesome

[@DrDolan2000]

Abso-fucking-lutely

[@jacoblauria8180]

Definitely! The music is absolutely the aspect of OoT that has aged the best by far.

[@Mqstodon]

Oh def The rrst of the game,,,up to debate

[@Plumpus3545]

Ocarina of time had some music from the previous Zelda, like A link to past and NES Zelda.

[@zero8xkira]

Arin complained about that too. He said they are all tuned in the same key. They're all the same...i wonder when his childhood committed sudoku.

[@Patterrz]

I feel like Skyward Sword needed some counselling after this

[@vatti9999]

It has the money :)

[@Gixel_]

I Luv Skyword Sword

[@Soperman223]

In hindsight, this video is really about how Ocarina of Time’s design is EXTREMELY anti-ADHD