Eibach Triple Pro-Truck Review! Silverado - Bronco - Ranger

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Shock Surplus

Shock Surplus

Күн бұрын

3 ‪@ShockSurplus‬ staff vehicles were all on Eibach Pro Truck stage 2 kits at the same time not too long ago. Eibach provided one of the kits, we purchased the other two from genuine curiosity to how their coilovers would compare to the ‪@FOXFACTORY‬ 2.0 Performance series we were running previously.
This review dives into how the Eibach stacks up against Bilstein, Rancho, and Fox 2.0 options specifically. Every truck here is going their separate way after this review, its looking like the Ranger is moving into ‪@FalconPerformanceShocks‬ or ‪@DobinsonsSuspension‬ , the Bronco has moved into ‪@iconvehicledynamicstv‬ 2.5 coilovers, and the Silverado is likely going to ‪@bilsteinUS‬ 6112 + 5160 shocks.
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@snivesz32
@snivesz32 10 ай бұрын
A shock dyno chart would clear up all of these opinions on the matter. I have not been able to find one though.
@oaknshell
@oaknshell Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely my dream job. Testing, building, and comparing sounds like a great way to spend the day! Haha
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Well the team is always growing so you could have your shot! If you love "Playing Trucks" as much as we do, then you'll fit right in. www.shocksurplus.com/pages/careers
@paulthompson661
@paulthompson661 Жыл бұрын
I have stage 2r on my 2023 longbed Trd off-road and man it really lets me rip! I am in love with it! I can’t see a 2.0 being any better than this! Thankyou shock Surplus! Super easy install,even for a NOOB!
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Every time we test a set we are surprised they are only 2" bodies and not a 2.5! Definitely our favorite 2.0 shock we have tested so far
@IDontCallFore313
@IDontCallFore313 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I have been thinking about upgrading my F150 to a leveled stance for a while now and all of the information you guys share has been awesome. Research is easy when all of this analysis is centralized. When I am ready to pull the trigger I will definitely be going through you guys for a set of eibach coilovers. They seem perfect for a DD.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
glad we could help now, and hopefully in the future! www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=f150
@wilymcgee
@wilymcgee 6 ай бұрын
@@ShockSurplus i just picked up the eibachs for my '04 f150, looking for a good weekend to get the fronts on. the rear ones have a bit of dribble...
@thatutahguy5988
@thatutahguy5988 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a pro truck lift stage 1 for my Tacoma pretty much when they first were released and I have loved this set up! It’s perfect for the type of off-roading I do and being a daily driver I like the better handling on road. I believe this is the best bang for your buck you can buy as far as a 2.0 monotube shock goes.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
solid, thanks for the feedback!
@mikedownen3962
@mikedownen3962 Ай бұрын
Sold for my 2500 HD
@rhcockrum8746
@rhcockrum8746 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting conversation with a ton of great information applicable to my future truck build. I will be watching this again and coming to you with questions. Thanks for taking the time to do the video.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ryanfrancis7264
@ryanfrancis7264 Жыл бұрын
Sold! I'm ordering these.
@joeallen7985
@joeallen7985 11 ай бұрын
GREAT informative video!!! Answered exactly the question I had about the best setup for towing.
@ragalyisp
@ragalyisp 11 ай бұрын
I chose the eibach pro kit for my ranger. I threw a rough country front coilover set just for a temporary fix(stock fx4 were leaking) along with a used set of goodyear 265/70/17 ht's. 6 months now of my truck being dangerous to drive and horriblly uncomfortable im looking forward to an improved ride. Im planning on setting a 1.5" lift and possibly going back to stock tire size later on for fuel efficiency so adjustability was important. I wanted a shock i can adjust on the vehicle too which was a consideration as well as being a little stiffer for better cornering.
@sportsjoe13
@sportsjoe13 Жыл бұрын
I’m in the market now, I want to see the 6112 vs eibach for the silverado. Mostly curious about how it smooths out chatter and bumps in the dirt.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We're going to get into that for sure, stick around
@paulthompson661
@paulthompson661 Жыл бұрын
Have tons of rough dunes here so I got eibach 2r and can rip for hours going super fast 💨 6112 many people say it’s way too jarring! Eibach is soft and can take big hits with speed
@alexandercapuano4002
@alexandercapuano4002 5 ай бұрын
Love these videos they’re super helpful keep up the good work fellas, thanks!
@BrandonAgpaoa
@BrandonAgpaoa 7 ай бұрын
Great video and information. Thanks. I only wish i had the money and time you test out every setup. Maybe after i retire from the Navy in 3 years i will. I'm about to order the Eibach pro Stage 2r soon
@markfountain4149
@markfountain4149 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video guys. Keep making them. I have a 21 F150 Hybrid and I want to level it with coiloversand add larger tires.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
loving the new F150s, let us know how we can help when you're ready
@rashad-tm4zm
@rashad-tm4zm 9 ай бұрын
Yee, SS Thanks for all the intel! Will you ever run the Silverado with Bilsteins rear with the reservoir and test them?
@Vodafone16v
@Vodafone16v 7 ай бұрын
We need Eibach to step-up into the 2.5 game! 😎
@brianbailey5634
@brianbailey5634 10 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2022 colorado z71. I use as daily driver and no offroad, but wanted a little lift and add 265/70/17 tires. Want to do 2.25 lift in front with 1 inch block in back to level it out. Would eibach coilover 2.0 be a good move? I want to ensure it would be a comfortable ride and not too stiff on turns and potholes. Would it be better than stock regarding daily comfort?
@5RWill
@5RWill Жыл бұрын
I have 107k on my 5100s thinking it’s time to change them out. I’ve always loved the control of them but think they’re a little stiff over potholes and speed bumps. From the description of the previous videos fox 2.0 and 6112 comparison it sounds like i would like the fox or eibach a little more than the 6112. But i don’t really seriously off-road. I would like to travel one day but too busy right now. Running a 14 Sierra with the 5.3. So between the eibach 2.0 vs fox 2.0 vs 6112 I’m unsure of which to go with also would new UCAs show added benefit to the ride quality?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
If you want something a little softer then I would definitely go Eibach as long as you do not mind having a minimum of 1.75" of lift. They are a lot longer in travel than most other things so they will absolutely require an aftermarket upper control arm or your stock upper ball joints will bind and limit travel.
@currentsupply
@currentsupply Жыл бұрын
I'm about to put 37s on my Bronco, Sounds like the Eibachs are good for the lift but maybe underdamped for the heavy wheel/tire combo. Cant wait to get feedback on the Icon 2.5 vs Bilstein 6112 options.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Definitely! We think the Icons and Bilsteins are the better choice for a 37" or taller tire or a wheel and tire package that weighs 110 lbs per corner or more. The Bilsteins probably are the most comfortable, but those Icons can really boogie through the big stuff, so if you like to party you might be a big fan of those.
@mauriceaucoin1368
@mauriceaucoin1368 Жыл бұрын
Could you guys add the (Belltech trail performance) 2.4mm coilovers and the 1.9mm trail performance struts as a wildcards? KW is known in the race world. I think they would surprise many and they are very affordable.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
They have been brought up often, they're in the queue!
@mauriceaucoin1368
@mauriceaucoin1368 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus Awesome, good to know and thanks for the feedback.
@christophershelton7272
@christophershelton7272 Жыл бұрын
Toss in the Ironman 4x4 stage 2 foam cell package if you're going to look at Dobinsons. I just got a 23 4Runner ORP and I'm down to Eibach Pro stage 2R, Bilstein 6112 (which I've tested on another 23 4runner and loved the ride and handling) and Dobinsons INF (non-KDSS) kit.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We're underway on a couple different vehicles with Ironman setups, so far we're not that hot on them for the price. We have one subaru with a blown shock, and an xterra with a rear end that's performing pretty poorly with their setup, we're not sure if the rear shocks are blown or not, no visible oil, but lots of bottom out in the rear with a minor load on their leaf springs and shocks. Out of the options you mentioned, Bilstein will ride firmer/sportier than the Dobinsons kit, both 60mm shocks and same piston surface area, but dobinsons uses a high flow linear piston compared to Bilstein's digressive piston. Eibach 2.0 is going to feel softer than the Bilstein, more like the Dobinsons, but less higher-speed offroad capability due to the smaller piston.
@bgnoggin
@bgnoggin Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, good info. I think I'm going to wait and get Bowman's opinion on the Bilstein's. I was surprised when he said Eibach states they are only good for 35"?? I'm a stock base sasquatch, but like to keep my options open as for 37's When will we get the Bilstein's one the Bronco??? Thanks
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
The recommended tire size is a 35, although as you see the 37s still work. The main issues are that the compressed length of the Eibach is short enough to allow a 37 to hit the fender even without the flare or with a flare delete and the overall unsprung mass of 37 seems to be a bit too much for them to handle. The fitment issues can be mitigated by trimming or running a longer bump stop or some sort of spacer under the stop, however I think they will start to run into dribbling issues on any wheel and tire combination that totals in at more than 110 lbs per corner. I do not know of a 37" or larger tire that weighs less than that with a wheel, so if 37s or larger might be on the horizon, you may want somethin a little more than a 2" body shock. We finally have the 6100s/6112s for the two doors in and ready to go, so they should be going on and getting reviewed soon. Even without testing them, I can say they are the better choice at this price point if you plan on a 37. Their overall length is a little short, but you can make a 37 fit with a tiny (~3/8") top mount spacer, and will certainly have the capacity to cope with the extra unsprung mass a little better without dribbling.
@vincenzoturriciano1592
@vincenzoturriciano1592 Жыл бұрын
Looking to upgrade my Sas Bronco to 37, please keep all the info coming in!
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
the Icon Bronco review is coming soon!
@joshgonzalez2112
@joshgonzalez2112 Жыл бұрын
Where is the follow up for the bronco shocks. Which ones were best?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
icon review coming sooon!
@Outsideville
@Outsideville Жыл бұрын
I hate my stock Ranger shocks the most in chatter. On pavement as I cross unending construction patches and then on dirt when I hit dreaded washboard sections. Both instances lead to considerable clinching of cheeks. You guys really found the Eibach 2Rs with rear reservoirs to noticeably improve that? If so, guess I need to get on the backorder list.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Definitely made a world of difference! The big thing with these Rangers is they gave them a heck of a lot of leaf spring and then gave them about 3" of rear high rake. So the rear springs are fairly stiff and with all the weight on the nose the rear chatters and skips along the pavement. Adding some lift to the front to shift weight more evenly in the chassis makes more difference than you would think and the super active and linear valving of the 2R rear shocks really keeps the rear tires on the pavement and make sure the suspension absorbs the bumps rather than sending them to your spine or sending the truck airborne. We have the 2R kits in stock now so no need to backorder and wait on them either www.shocksurplus.com/products/eibach-pro-truck-stage-2r-coilover-kit-front-coilovers-rear-reservoir-shocks-e86-35-048-02-22
@MyBluegoose
@MyBluegoose 10 ай бұрын
I’m curious as to how the cir-clip shocks stand up in the salt belt regions? My thinking is that the clip would corrode/rust away in short order.
@2WHEELADVLIFE
@2WHEELADVLIFE Жыл бұрын
Awesome information.
@mrocco36
@mrocco36 Жыл бұрын
would love to see a comparison with the Dobinson MRA or IMS to the 6112 and 8112 shocks. Seems like a good match up!
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
There are no fair comparisons between the MRR and 8112s, but the IMS vs. the 6112s is definitely in the books for sure. Bilstein does not make a smooth body shock with adjusters like the MRR, and Dobinsons does not make a shock with position-sensitive dampening like the 8112s. So even if prices were similar, which they are not, it is not really a fair comparison for either part.
@MasterTygt500
@MasterTygt500 Жыл бұрын
Love you guy's content. I've been researching suspension stuff pretty heavily for my 22 Ford Ranger. It's mostly for daily driving but I want to get into overlanding/offroad, so I want to make sure that capability is there. I also might tow a car every now and again, so I gotta keep that capability too. What would be the strong recommendation between these, as I'm stuck on not finding much more direct comparisons with the Ranger chassis. Eibach Pro Truck 2R Bilstein 6112/5160 Teraflex Falcon Sport That's what I've narrowed down to. Any opinions and insights are welcome. Thanks again
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
The Eibachs and the Bilsteins are definitely our two favorites so far. You can not go wrong with either option really, but if you prefer a little tighter handling or plan on adding a lot of constant weight go Bilstein, otherwise the Eibachs are pretty hard to beat, especially with how much travel they offer
@MasterTygt500
@MasterTygt500 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus Awesome, I appreciate the knowledge. I'll be buying from you guys soon. 😀
@WheelsAndHelmets
@WheelsAndHelmets 5 ай бұрын
This was more positive perspextive than i was expecting to hear. I have eibach (non resevoir) on my 3rd gen taco, and ive been thinking about "upgrading". I dont know which direction yet. 6112? 8112? Icon? Decisions Decisions..
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 5 ай бұрын
what are you looking to do that the Eibach cant handle?
@WheelsAndHelmets
@WheelsAndHelmets 5 ай бұрын
@ShockSurplus great question. So far my truck has seen a lot of terrain. From crawling, to techy fire road, jumped it a few times. I think my biggest complaint is I feel it's not particularly AMAZING at any 1 job other than pavement. With the front coilovers, I feel the shock can't handle the spring rate on rebound. For example, dropping off a curb, the front wheel crashes to the ground which isn't all that pleasant, similarly with some rock obstacles. While jumping (and you can kind of see this in your video) the truck Bob's a couple times before settling. I'm not experienced with other coilovers so I'm not sure what is the "norm", but I think you guys made a great point that a 2.5 from eibach may handle the spring rate better. I just suppose more control with a DSC shock with rebound adjustment could provide more control. The rears with the spacer block also wasn't pleasant especially after adding weight of a rack and rtt. After upgrading to the icon rxt leaf pack, the rear feels great, though. Hopefully this was a good answer to your question! :)
@peterochester2320
@peterochester2320 11 ай бұрын
Why did you not include Ranchos? I had the adjustable ones (9000?) on my F150 and it was a big improvement over stock especially when towing. Set on 5 out of ten they were noticeably stiffer than stock and prevented surge. I now have a new F150 Platinum and need to level but not sure about replacing brand new springs and shocks.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 11 ай бұрын
This review is just about Eibach as the title suggests, however those Ranchos are probably our least recommended part these days. They do not have great quality control, and any basic monotube like these Eibachs will ride and perform better without having to get out the truck to make adjustments. They also last exponentially longer and far less failure prone
@JCammeron
@JCammeron 7 ай бұрын
Do you know what Leafs you guys ran with the Eibach 2R's on the Ranger? (at 18:30) Also what height did you run the 2R's? I believe default shipped is 2.5"? I've got some Eibachs 2R's ordered but I'm debating switching from the stock FX4 leafs (thinking maybe ICON Multi Rates but still researching.) Thanks for the great video. The discussion is great but would love to also see more video of the offroad performance if you guys ever come back to these.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 7 ай бұрын
Hitup stephen@shocksurplus.com - he has the ranger, i believe it was stock leafs, and the 2R system was awesome in the dirt, he'll have more details.
@a619martinez
@a619martinez 9 ай бұрын
Eibach has good reviews. Will this fit 2022 gmc Sierra 1500 limited 5.3 v8 4wd
@brycegraves4874
@brycegraves4874 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see the 6112 vs eibach on the ranger really leaning towards the 6112
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
they're in the queue! Also going to check out dobinsons and Falcon on the Ranger
@garrisonjasik5367
@garrisonjasik5367 Жыл бұрын
Hey just wondering what you guys decide next for the Silverado? This video mentioned a few options he is thinking about
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We are more than likely going to the 6112s and 5160s next
@tylerphelps4868
@tylerphelps4868 Жыл бұрын
I tried a set of MammothOffroad 2” lift coil overs with adjustable damping on my F150. Mixed review for me. They look like a copy of the Fox2.0s but they’re $700 or so for all 4. If that’s an option for y’all to test out I would love to see your take on it, being you know what you’re talking about and what you’re looking for lol
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We have heard some mixed reviews on them as well however it definitely is hard to get a 2.0 dialed in. I am not so sure they will make it into the test mix though, we do not sell there stuff, and there is still a lot of things we do sell that we have yet to test on our own vehicles. Definitely a possibility someday, but they are low on the list for right now.
@franklong6269
@franklong6269 11 ай бұрын
1. How do the Eibach Pro Stage 2 front coilovers compare with the $3000.00 - $5000.00 Fox, Old Emu and King shock kits that have adjustable damping? 2. I just installed the Eibachs on my 2009 4-Wheel Drive, double-cab Tacoma, and they are very firm on paved roads. Does the torque tightening on the upper and lower control arms affect how firm the shocks 3. Do these shocks soften up some as they break in?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 11 ай бұрын
1. The Eibachs work great and definitely punch above their price point, but they are pretty far off the anything that expensive. Anything in that price range will offer a much larger 2.5" body for better support while having better small bump sensitivity as well as allow them to remain more consistent, and they adjustability gives you way more flexibility to tune ride and handling to your preferences and uses. Some options like the OME BP51s, King 3.0s, and Bilstein 8112s are also position sensitive allowing them to provide far more plush ride in their primary ride zone while offering progressive support to prevent topping or bottoming out the shocks as you extend or compress the shocks outside of their main ride zone. 2. Overtightening control arms can cause stiction or bind at those joints, not allowing them to operate smoothly which could hurt ride. More likely than not though, those coilovers probably just have a little too much preload. They were optimized around 3rd gens so they are set a little high out of the box for a 2G like yours. 3. There is a short break in period particularly on the front coilovers, however you likely will not feel it as much as see a 1/4-3/4" drop in lift height from the front end from their initial height after the first 50-150 miles.
@westinkriser6943
@westinkriser6943 2 ай бұрын
Do the Eibach stage 2 rear shocks provide any lift out of the box or do you have to do rear lift blocks to actually get any height gain? Trying to find out if I need them and if so, how big of blocks i need to keep some rake for towing while lifting for the look.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 2 ай бұрын
you will need blocks or leaf springs to raise the rear of a leaf-sprung vehicle. If you have coil springs in the rear, like the Bronco or 4Runner, then you need spring spacers or lift springs to raise the rear.
@2Tugz
@2Tugz Жыл бұрын
Can you expand more on the Eibachs being too short with 37s and touching the fenders? Are we talking body damage or just making contact? Would a shorter 37" tire than the 36.8 maxxis make enough difference to no be an issiue?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
They were short enough to start bending tabs on the front fenders with no flares, so if you left your flares on you would be in trouble if you like to drive fast in the dirt. These are pretty hard to bottom out, so with a little lighter foot and something that runs a little smaller like a KM3, you would probably be alright with a flare delete. Although we definitely heard them touch when it fully flexes out, it was not bad enough to cause damage, so if you are just worried about it when you are crawling you are probably fine. It really only becomes an issue when all four tires leave the ground simultaneously or a big rut, root, or rock jumps out in front of you. With that said, if sending it at speed is your thing, these probably are not the right shocks for you, especially with a 37. At this price point we think the Icon 2.5 EXPs are the real MVP for high speed shenanigans. They definitely run on the firm side of the spectrum, but we could not believe the stuff we were able to get away with after just simply sliding in a set of shocks and upper control arms.
@TheSlugger76
@TheSlugger76 Жыл бұрын
Which one would be the best for everyday drive highway around town and hunting on weekend
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
What vehicle they are going on makes a big difference, but these Eibach Stage 2 kits are definitely one of the best options out there.
@lucasmbot
@lucasmbot 16 күн бұрын
Has anyone installed these Fox 2.0 shocks and noticed a real improvement in the vehicle's comfort? The one without the nitrogen tank. I installed them in my Toyota and neither I nor my family noticed any improvement. Nothing. I tried to ask Fox support for help but no one helped us.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 8 күн бұрын
surprising, when we put the fox 2.0 on our Tacoma, we noticed a difference in overall soft-ness up driveways and big bumpers. The real benefit of Fox 2.0s come offroad.
@GetOutThereToday
@GetOutThereToday Жыл бұрын
Ugh... been waiting one month now for my eibach pro truck suspension to get delivered. One stinker part of living in alaska
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
That's a lot of patience! 😂
@icouch
@icouch 2 ай бұрын
Can I buy the Eibach pro truck shocks separately without the coils?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 2 ай бұрын
Yes you can, for most vehicles. Text us 213-433-3616 and we can help out
@hunterryan8344
@hunterryan8344 Жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for my 19 Silverado RST? I use it on the highway a lot but it also gets used to pull my 5000lb ice castle through the snow as well as a good amount of gravel and fields in the fall for hunting.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Eibach and Fox both subdue the rough trails and gravel road chatter, with ample damping for light hauling. Bilstein wins in the handling department, but sometimes lack in the comfort department, but not always.
@garrettvk4986
@garrettvk4986 11 ай бұрын
Have you guys done a direct comparison between the pro truck 2rs and the 6112 5160s?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 11 ай бұрын
Not yet, but we just got a set on one of our two rangers a few weeks back so we will have a review up on the Rangers specifically soon, that said we predict just about everything we have said in previous videos for other applications will apply to Rangers as well
@Inspector694
@Inspector694 3 ай бұрын
I want a shock that rides like a Cadillac. I do strictly street driving I own a Toyota tundra. What do you guys suggest?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 3 ай бұрын
Fox 2.0 is typically the softest shock we've been on for these heavier trucks. You could go back to factory-level with KYB excel G, but it gets sloppy in our opinion on that small of a shock. A custom tuned Fox 2.5 or King setup would be the ultimate, but also the most expensive ($3500/set)
@richardsturgis7540
@richardsturgis7540 Жыл бұрын
When is the video for the bronco with the icon suspension
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
sooooon!
@ryanfrancis7264
@ryanfrancis7264 Жыл бұрын
Did i understand this right? The Eibach only gave 1 inch of lift on the silverado with the 3.0? I have a 24 silverado 1500 crew cab 6.7ft bed with the 3.0. I was looking at the eibachs for my lift in the front but was hoping for 2-2.5"
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
They did around 1" at the out of the box settings, however we were able to get them adjusted to right at 2" of lift.
@ryanfrancis7264
@ryanfrancis7264 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus ok, awesome. Is there a need for upper control arms with 2"? I've heard of the stock one breaking. I don't do high speed off road but I work off road and I'm always in the dirt and mud.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
You dont necessarily need one, but you do get more travel if you do upgrade. The reason why most stock arms are breaking is because they run an aftermarket coilover with enough travel to make the droop stops engage before they can fully extend, and hit those droop stops frequently. You will probably be fine without them, but we do find them to be a worthwhile upgrade for these new GMs
@menot_3619
@menot_3619 3 ай бұрын
Would i have to upgrade the upper control arm on a 23 sierra 1500 when installing a Eibach stage 2r kit?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 2 ай бұрын
no you dont have to, stock arms is fine. its recommended though if you're trying to gain 2.5" or lift or more
@MrSatchelpack
@MrSatchelpack Жыл бұрын
What are the benefits of leveling out a vehicle? There seems to be a lot more cons than pros. If all you want to do is off road, I get it. Mo clearance, mo betta. However, most other tasks would just decrease fuel economy especially when hauling any kind of load as the vehicle is raked back.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, none of the vehicles in this video besides maybe the Bronco are level, and even that was not intentional. The extra 50-60lbs of a bigger spare, spacer, relocation brackets, and reinforcement plates made the rear sit lower than Eibach's intended settings. We could have easily adjusted them, but that 2 door is never seeing any load, and we were off to the next suspension system before it even mattered. Even then, we all are running just about the minimum amount of lift needed to fit our respective tires. When setting up customers with a lifted suspension package, we try to steer them away from having a truly level setup, particularly if they plan on towing and hauling their vehicle. Some applications like the 19+ Rangers do have an obscene amount of forward rake that hampers handling, hurts ride, and even causes the crash avoidance systems to go off erroneously, so sometimes getting the truck more level than it was out of the factory can be very beneficial, with very little loss in load stability of gas mileage. Having a more even weight distribution helps everywhere, but with everything, there is a point of diminishing returns. Even then, unless you never plan on carrying any weight or do not have a load leveling aid like airbags or Sumo Springs, we hardly ever recommend our customers set their vehicles up to be dead level. In fact, oftentimes, lifting the rear allows you to run a longer travel shock for better articulation off-road, so even real off-road enthusiasts are better off doing more than a basic level. Furthermore, most modern trucks and SUVs are really limited in upward or bump travel in the rear, so adding some distance from the stops with a little lift out back is just as if not more beneficial than lifting the front on some applications. I think the big reason many people swing towards more of a leveling kit is that most people prefer the look of a truck that sits more level, and on most applications, you can run a much larger tire just by lifting the front. In most cases, gas mileage is the same, if not better than it would be if you did a true lift kit that lifted the front and rear the same or a similar amount, and it gets people to their goal in tire size as well as better shocks without spending too much money. Realistically though, somebody looking to level, lift, wheel, or put their truck on big tires is not really all that concerned with gas mileage or, at the very least is more than well aware they will be losing some MPG. That said, we are usually less concerned with ride height and more about actual suspension performance, which is why we are such a big fan of the Eibachs. On most applications, their 2.0 coilovers usually work as well at close to stock height as they do with some lift or leveling and are adjustable while installed on the vehicle. So you can get the same benefits in ride and handling while maintaining stock height or close to it, and you do not have to monkey with a spring compressor to get them dialed in.
@markkomorowski3837
@markkomorowski3837 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 f150 crew cab fx4 with 2.7L engine. I am currently running Bilstein 5100's at max height, which gives me 2 inches of lift, and 33" General Grabber Atx tires. I tow a camper weighing about 7000lbs about 7 times a summer and go to the sand dunes about the same. I'm debating between the Bilstein 6112/5160 or the Eiback pro truck 2r. Which would be the best setup for those conditions in your opinion? Also if I replace the rear lift block with a 1.75" taller block, should I add bump stop extensions or will the new shocks be able to handle the additional up travel without bottoming out or damaging driveline components? Thanks in advance.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
I would probably lean towards the Bilsteins simply because they are better under a load, and the larger body on the front struts will be more supportive for the times a set of whoops pop up or a dune falls away right in front of you. They may not be quite as comfortable over smaller bumps at lower speeds, but they will keep you going with less drama during those "uh oh" moments or when you are loaded down. The 5160s are plenty long enough to handle that much lift in the rear and are not any longer than stock when fully compressed so there is no need to worry about a bump stop spacers. These F-150s also have plenty of leeway at the rear driveline so that will not be a concern.
@jsclayton
@jsclayton Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 22 Silverado Z71 and have been looking for a level with emphasis on on-road comfort. The stock Ranchos feel awful rough or sharp when hitting bumps with a little speed, and the unloaded back end likes to dance around. Had 5100s on my 07 and wasn’t a fan. Looking at Kings since they seem to universally be described as comfortable, but I’m pretty sure that’s overkill for on-road. Any thoughts in the much more crowded $1-2K range?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
If you weren't a fan of the Bilstein, then Fox or Eibach would be our suggestions in that budget range. The same performance differences we see here on these vehicles would be applicable to the 22 Silverado. Fox 2.0s feel like King Comfort onroad, but lack the offroad performance and handling in the tough stuff, which is fine for 99% of drivers that aren't ripping in the dirt often.
@xsaltypoptartx
@xsaltypoptartx Жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 silverado and have been looking at the eibach 2.0 pro truck kit. I want to put a full replacement ranch hand Front bumper on it. Will these shocks at the lowest setting be ok even with the added weight from the bumper (200lbs)? Just trying to get away from the stock Ranchos that have 50k on them. Thanks
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
The 2.0 coilovers for your application are a good bit longer than stock, so they really should not be set at less than 1.75" of lift over stock in the front. Which with the weight og that bumper, will certainly not be at their lowest recommended preload setting
@jdd7998
@jdd7998 Жыл бұрын
Will be ordering the Eibach shocks for my 2017 F350 DRW 6.7 4x4 in a few weeks. My truck has 130K miles, will be getting new tires also. Hopefully the Eibachs will be a good investment.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We think so! We find them to be a nice sweet spot between the Fox and the Bilsteins, which is usually just right for most people
@Petesbrobob
@Petesbrobob Жыл бұрын
What coilover should I get for my Bronco? Soft during the week for daily and controlled for going 60 mph in Johnson Valley on weekends. Kings or Fox?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Either can achieve that, We've heard mixed reviews on Kings out of the box, haven't heard anything about the new Fox Performance Elite that have basically just landed www.shocksurplus.com/products/fox-2-5-performance-elite-coilovers-set-2021-ford-bronco We're going to test both head to head soon.
@markfountain4149
@markfountain4149 Жыл бұрын
I have a 21 F150 hybrid that I will be towing with regularly and I wanted to get your opinion on what shocks to get?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Eibach Stage 2 or Bilstein 6112s and 5100s would both be great choices. The Eibach will ride a bit better unloaded but the Bilsteins will be better under a load so it really comes down to what you want to prioritize
@markfountain4149
@markfountain4149 Жыл бұрын
@ShockSurplus Thanks for the info. What do you think about Falcon Sport Tow/Haul Shock Leveling System? Also how do they compare to the Eibach and Bilstein shocks?
@razor4432
@razor4432 Жыл бұрын
Will Eibach have an offering for the new Frontier anytime soon?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Not sure, haven't seen the new frontier make any appearance on their social media yet
@ebkbk9902
@ebkbk9902 Жыл бұрын
Are they going to make these for 07-14 silverados any time soon? Whats the difference in the snapring versions compared to the coilover? Im mainly trying to build a budget prerunner would these handle decent size whoops?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Even though Eibach doesn't have their coilovers available, or the Stage 2 kits available - there's actually something better for what that price would be ($1200-1400 for the set). That's the BIlstein 6112 and rear 5160s, you get a beefier front shock, and a reservoir rear shock. This will transform your ride and be able to handle tougher terrain than the Eibach 2.0 in our experience. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-6112-strut-spring-rear-b8-5160-reservoir-shocks-set-for-2007-2013-chevrolet-silverado-1500-4wd-w-0-1-85-lift-v8
@ebkbk9902
@ebkbk9902 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus You guys are the best! Thank you!!!
@daman9780
@daman9780 9 ай бұрын
i bought the 5100 for my tundra 5.7 and put on bigger and heavier tires and they suck......if you wanna feel every pebble in the road those are the shocks for you....i wasnt plush soaking up the bumps kinda ride....so eibach or fox 2,0 here i come
@5RWill
@5RWill Жыл бұрын
So dirt king just came out with 2.0 IFP coilovers and 2.5s. This complicates things
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Looks like Elka is making them, but we are definitely interested in getting a set to test
@bmobuell
@bmobuell Жыл бұрын
Can the eibach be installed on a trail boss Silverado ? Set to max height to give the 2” factory lift height. And are the rears compatible with the 2” factory trailboss lift ? Oh and same question for the fox 2.0. Thank you. Thanks !!
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Both can technically be installed on Trail Boss or AT4 models however they pretty much max out at stock height in the front and the rear shocks can not take any more lift.
@bmobuell
@bmobuell Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus thanks for the info! So they don’t make a Trailboss specific kit? Do you know if they have plans to? And same question goes for the fox 2.0 kit? That kit would also be maxed out? Is there a Fox 2.0 Trailboss specific kit? Thanks again!
@JBsmoker00
@JBsmoker00 Жыл бұрын
I need to test them my driveway in about 1/4 miles mud dirt road thst puts a a beat down on shocks 😂😂
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
do it, what vehicle?
@raulbailon2564
@raulbailon2564 4 ай бұрын
Hey guy's I'm looking for some bilsteins with reservoirs for my 2016 F 150, what you guy's recommend?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 2 ай бұрын
6112 are the beefiest option for the front, and then 5160 reservoir shocks for the rear. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-6112-struts-spring-assembled-rear-5160-reservoir-shocks-set-for-2015-2019-ford-f150-4wd
@hamidherbert8690
@hamidherbert8690 Жыл бұрын
I have an at4 1500 diesel. I want to run the bilstein 6112 with the ready lift sst kit. Do you know if those are compatible?
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Definitely not at all. The addition of the spacer on the 6112s is going to eat your front axles for sure.
@1FiftyOverland
@1FiftyOverland Жыл бұрын
Can you review sway a way shocks for f150
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
On the list for sure
@rickrobs9398
@rickrobs9398 Жыл бұрын
Yup the rear end issue on the bronco is because no sway bar.
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Yup and a track bar drop and it would have done well. Sasquatch Broncos do not get them, so we do think it was a bit of an oversight not to give a little more low speed dampening to mitigate more unwanted body motions, with so many Broncos not having a rear bar. We have tested a lot of other shocks on the Bronco at similar lift heights without having the same complaints, but adding a sway bar and track bar relocation is not a big deal, and if you like a softer ride, we think these would be killer.
@Ruffles01
@Ruffles01 Жыл бұрын
About how much lift could I expect from the eibach 2.0 on a Tacoma?
@kauaisoljaz
@kauaisoljaz Жыл бұрын
1-2.5 inch lift
@shakenbake11
@shakenbake11 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@HybridPhase
@HybridPhase Ай бұрын
WISH THIS WAS TIME STAMPED TO FIND OUT WHAT AND WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Ай бұрын
Can you clarify? Looking for bookmarks on the video with topics?
@HybridPhase
@HybridPhase Ай бұрын
@ShockSurplus sorry for the caps, keyboard was on lock. Yeah I'm trying to figure out for the Eibach, time stamps for when he talks about them and compares them to the others?
@KennysLyfe
@KennysLyfe Жыл бұрын
Freedom Offroad
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
haven't tried em
@SandraYoung-j5b
@SandraYoung-j5b 5 ай бұрын
Wilson Ruth Hernandez Jessica Hall Shirley
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 5 ай бұрын
come watch
@sethlover6498
@sethlover6498 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully those Eibach's support your truck better than those flip flops support dudes pinky toe dragging the floor....
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus 8 ай бұрын
lot of effort to sling some insults, go outside get some air dude
@traviscrown9189
@traviscrown9189 8 ай бұрын
@@ShockSurplusit’s called a joke/ sarcasm… also known as humor. Let your balls drop and stop being so offended. I thought guys who off roaded and sold shocks would be tougher. Should have figured this was a channel ran by new generation betas. Yawn 🥱
@andrewc1036
@andrewc1036 2 ай бұрын
Why are you looking at men’s feet?
@ocramhsainz2762
@ocramhsainz2762 Жыл бұрын
I have a 21 Ford f150 and want to lift if the 3 inches for bigger tires, rough country has a the vertex coil over kit with UCA’s that looks great or should I go for the Eibach stage 2. Thank you for your help on this
@ShockSurplus
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We have not had the chance to test the Rough Country Vertex coilovers yet, but a lot of our customers are calling us to take them out for something that rides better. Many of whom end up in the Eibachs and are much happier.
@ocramhsainz2762
@ocramhsainz2762 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus great, thank you for the feed back I’m thinking of buying the eibach stage 2 r from You guys how much lift stance can I get out of them on my f150?
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